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**ZetaMax**

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I just obtained Clif's newest report - issued just yesterday!!!

 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


What lies is he telling now?
 Quoting: walt


There are large areas of growth in supporting sets for [rescue], and [bail outs], and
[lifting up], but all of these are within the immediacy sets and do not sustain support into
the shorter term. The interpretation is that the 'happy talk', even the [desperately crazy
'laughter'] form of [happy talk] will all fade by March 2012.
The [rescue] linguistic sets and their supporting details paint a very bleak picture indeed.
There are many sets for [liquidity (ebb)] and then a [flood] of [liquidity] that [dumps
(corporations)] into [deep wells] with [no ropes].


So in a nutshell, he's saying the reality of the complete global financial collapse will no longer be "deniable" by March of next year.

I'm just starting into the report now, but so far the "flavor" is global currency collapse, and perhaps some form of global war.

I'll share more later!!!
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I just obtained Clif's newest report - issued just yesterday!!!

 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


What lies is he telling now?
 Quoting: walt


There are large areas of growth in supporting sets for [rescue], and [bail outs], and
[lifting up], but all of these are within the immediacy sets and do not sustain support into
the shorter term. The interpretation is that the 'happy talk', even the [desperately crazy
'laughter'] form of [happy talk] will all fade by March 2012.
The [rescue] linguistic sets and their supporting details paint a very bleak picture indeed.
There are many sets for [liquidity (ebb)] and then a [flood] of [liquidity] that [dumps
(corporations)] into [deep wells] with [no ropes].


So in a nutshell, he's saying the reality of the complete global financial collapse will no longer be "deniable" by March of next year.

I'm just starting into the report now, but so far the "flavor" is global currency collapse, and perhaps some form of global war.

I'll share more later!!!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


The ONLY reason to bring up
any of the charlatans and mental defectives who are the political officialdom, is that the
data sets within the Markets entity, when taken in conjunction with the cross links over
to the Populace/USofA entity are suggesting that ALL the [posturing] and [lying] of the
[political class] over these next [4/four months] will be [undone/reversed/up-ended] in a
[single day (in March 2012)]. Consider now that ALL expenditures as 'investments' into
the USA political system for the 2012 political 'season' to date, and including the mass in
pouring over these next 4/four months will be [undone] in a [day] such that [all
'investments' aka 'bribes'] will be [of no value (worthless/defunct/non-existent)].


So he is saying, that in March, the collapse will be SO obvious to everyone, and the dollar SO worthless, that the politicians and mass media will have **NO** credibility whatsoever.

Or so sayeth Clif.

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I just obtained Clif's newest report - issued just yesterday!!!

 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


What lies is he telling now?
 Quoting: walt


There are large areas of growth in supporting sets for [rescue], and [bail outs], and
[lifting up], but all of these are within the immediacy sets and do not sustain support into
the shorter term. The interpretation is that the 'happy talk', even the [desperately crazy
'laughter'] form of [happy talk] will all fade by March 2012.
The [rescue] linguistic sets and their supporting details paint a very bleak picture indeed.
There are many sets for [liquidity (ebb)] and then a [flood] of [liquidity] that [dumps
(corporations)] into [deep wells] with [no ropes].


So in a nutshell, he's saying the reality of the complete global financial collapse will no longer be "deniable" by March of next year.

I'm just starting into the report now, but so far the "flavor" is global currency collapse, and perhaps some form of global war.

I'll share more later!!!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


The ONLY reason to bring up
any of the charlatans and mental defectives who are the political officialdom, is that the
data sets within the Markets entity, when taken in conjunction with the cross links over
to the Populace/USofA entity are suggesting that ALL the [posturing] and [lying] of the
[political class] over these next [4/four months] will be [undone/reversed/up-ended] in a
[single day (in March 2012)]. Consider now that ALL expenditures as 'investments' into
the USA political system for the 2012 political 'season' to date, and including the mass in
pouring over these next 4/four months will be [undone] in a [day] such that [all
'investments' aka 'bribes'] will be [of no value (worthless/defunct/non-existent)].


So he is saying, that in March, the collapse will be SO obvious to everyone, and the dollar SO worthless, that the politicians and mass media will have **NO** credibility whatsoever.

Or so sayeth Clif.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Ice Age CANCELLED:

Our previous Shape reports had noted that this [winter 2011/2012 northern hemisphere]
was indicated to be [particularly harsh]. That is still the case, however, now the
[areas/locations] for the [deep freeze (intense cold)] have shrunk, and become [isolated]

. . .

The detail
layers paint a picture that could, just maybe, be describing the [appearance of the
disrupted toroid] previously forecast in both older ALTA and Shape reports. (Emphasis is Clif's)

. . .

it all gets terribly confusing as to what is related to what and how


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Ice Age CANCELLED:

Our previous Shape reports had noted that this [winter 2011/2012 northern hemisphere]
was indicated to be [particularly harsh]. That is still the case, however, now the
[areas/locations] for the [deep freeze (intense cold)] have shrunk, and become [isolated]

. . .

The detail
layers paint a picture that could, just maybe, be describing the [appearance of the
disrupted toroid] previously forecast in both older ALTA and Shape reports. (Emphasis is Clif's)

. . .

it all gets terribly confusing as to what is related to what and how

 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

In other words, he is backtracking because his prediction failed. Again. What a surprise. Not.
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You'll only have yourself to blame. Can't say you weren't WARNED!!!!
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Just like you have yourself to blame for buying in to every failed prophet that's come along.
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I just obtained Clif's newest report - issued just yesterday!!!

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Cool! You'll have to tell us what his latest soon-to-fail predictions are.


Mexcited

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So in a nutshell, he's saying the reality of the complete global financial collapse will no longer be "deniable" by March of next year.

I'm just starting into the report now, but so far the "flavor" is global currency collapse, and perhaps some form of global war.

I'll share more later!!!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


No, in a nutshell, he told you the same thing you could find out from reading the Wall Street Journal.
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So he is saying, that in March, the collapse will be SO obvious to everyone, and the dollar SO worthless, that the politicians and mass media will have **NO** credibility whatsoever.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Well, Clif should know a lot about having **NO** credibility whatsoever. He wrote the book after all.
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Ice Age CANCELLED:

Our previous Shape reports had noted that this [winter 2011/2012 northern hemisphere]
was indicated to be [particularly harsh]. That is still the case, however, now the
[areas/locations] for the [deep freeze (intense cold)] have shrunk, and become [isolated]

. . .

The detail
layers paint a picture that could, just maybe, be describing the [appearance of the
disrupted toroid] previously forecast in both older ALTA and Shape reports. (Emphasis is Clif's)

. . .

it all gets terribly confusing as to what is related to what and how

 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Ah, so he's making excuses for one of his latest failures. Not surprising.
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You'll only have yourself to blame. Can't say you weren't WARNED!!!!
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Just like you have yourself to blame for buying in to every failed prophet that's come along.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Sometimes i doubt that every intelligence is able of leraning an rationalizing.
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Apparently the snake oil industry is booming with idiots like Max sitting on the edge waiting to pay Clif another $10 to read his absurd reports. If 500 people buy his reports every month, that's a cool $5000 in Clif's pocket. Not a bad living at all for someone who trolls the net and woo woo forums stealing ideas and spinning them with his own flavor of doom.
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Apparently the snake oil industry is booming with idiots like Max sitting on the edge waiting to pay Clif another $10 to read his absurd reports. If 500 people buy his reports every month, that's a cool $5000 in Clif's pocket. Not a bad living at all for someone who trolls the net and woo woo forums stealing ideas and spinning them with his own flavor of doom.
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Well I guess we're going to find out. He has been saying for YEARS that a huge DATA GAP develops for the period of March 2012 through 2013. March is now a mere four months away, and he's now saying the gap is probably due to a combination of factors that stem principally from the loss of the global electrical grid - which for all practical purposes kills the internet. The collapse of the electrical grid is most likely directly related to the global financial system/currency collapse which destroys the just-in-time delivery system needed to keep power plants operating. It's gonna be a BITCH keeping the spent pools of nuclear fuel all over the world COOL when the grid goes down and the diesel runs out.

The 2012 DATA GAP prophecy is truly Clif's own - not something he borrowed from elsewhere.

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Apparently the snake oil industry is booming with idiots like Max sitting on the edge waiting to pay Clif another $10 to read his absurd reports. If 500 people buy his reports every month, that's a cool $5000 in Clif's pocket. Not a bad living at all for someone who trolls the net and woo woo forums stealing ideas and spinning them with his own flavor of doom.
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Well I guess we're going to find out. He has been saying for YEARS that a huge DATA GAP develops for the period of March 2012 through 2013. March is now a mere four months away, and he's now saying the gap is probably due to a combination of factors that stem principally from the loss of the global electrical grid - which for all practical purposes kills the internet. The collapse of the electrical grid is most likely directly related to the global financial system/currency collapse which destroys the just-in-time delivery system needed to keep power plants operating. It's gonna be a BITCH keeping the spent pools of nuclear fuel all over the world COOL when the grid goes down and the diesel runs out.

The 2012 DATA GAP prophecy is truly Clif's own - not something he borrowed from elsewhere.

:dwagain:
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Funny how the fake Mayan doom date falls squarely in the middle of his window of doom. Also encompasses the timewave zero bullcrap window of doom. Sounds like he is hedging bets just in case. Why would anyone give him the benefit of doubt when he has failed so miserably in the past - notably his failed November (2010) tipping point. But what would we expect from Maxipads after watching him defend Nancy for so many years. Max just went from bad to worse. At least Nancy didn't ask for money, just adulation and unquestioning belief in her scam. Clif and Nancy are definitely peers. Their prediction inaccuracy track record is almost 100%.
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Well I guess we're going to find out. He has been saying for YEARS that a huge DATA GAP develops for the period of March 2012 through 2013. March is now a mere four months away, and he's now saying the gap is probably due to a combination of factors that stem principally from the loss of the global electrical grid - which for all practical purposes kills the internet. The collapse of the electrical grid is most likely directly related to the global financial system/currency collapse which destroys the just-in-time delivery system needed to keep power plants operating. It's gonna be a BITCH keeping the spent pools of nuclear fuel all over the world COOL when the grid goes down and the diesel runs out.

The 2012 DATA GAP prophecy is truly Clif's own - not something he borrowed from elsewhere.

 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


But it hasn't happened and I doubt it will happen. Look at his track record. You truly are stupid. Time and time again you end up holding a bag of excuses and yet you continue to buy into whatever crap he's pushing.

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Max, March may be just a few months away, but 2012 (it was supposed to be too far out) is just a few days away. Almost time to buy that steak. I'm not the only one that sees you hiding behind Clif to avoid talk of Nancy and her failures. A real man would just accept defeat and buy the fucking steak. But we know Max is not a man of his word.
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He has been saying for YEARS that a huge DATA GAP develops for the period of March 2012 through 2013
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Maybe someone is standing on the data cable.....
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How many steaks does Max have to buy? How many people agreed to the bet?
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How many steaks does Max have to buy? How many people agreed to the bet?
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The "Finish Line" has not yet been crossed ...
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How many steaks does Max have to buy? How many people agreed to the bet?
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The "Finish Line" has not yet been crossed ...
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Fine. IF and WHEN that finish line is crossed -- On January 1st, and NO LATER -- how many steaks do you have to buy? How many people agreed to the bet?
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Max only owes Hap a steak. He won't do it though.
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You know what you need Max? Help. Why don't you call Nancy and see if she'll hire User back. He was really quite entertaining.

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How many steaks does Max have to buy? How many people agreed to the bet?
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The "Finish Line" has not yet been crossed ...
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Just 25 days to go. Really, Hap was generous to give Max until January 1st, since the bet was based on the "2012 is too far out" premise. According to Nancy's original prediction, and Max's defense of Nancy's predictions, the "passage" would be obvious to everyone long before 2012.
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True...as far as I'm concerned the finish line was crossed several months ago since "2012 was too far out." One could argue that the finish line was crossed as far back as January this year. The fact that Max has been trying to drag this out is why I believe he won't honor the agreement. If he doesn't, then he'll prove to us all what kind of "man" he really is.
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How much is it for a steak in the US? I had one on Friday and over here it goes for USD12. (about R100.)
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How much is it for a steak in the US? I had one on Friday and over here it goes for USD12. (about R100.)
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Depending on the cut - around to $30 to $50 USD at Ruth Chris (prices vary by location). That's just for the steak - doesn't include sides, drinks or appetizers.

Never been to Ruth Chris and have no intention of going there - I don't eat much red meat these days. Well, I shouldn't say no intention of going there. If someone else is picking up the tab, I'll go with no complaint.
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How much is it for a steak in the US? I had one on Friday and over here it goes for USD12. (about R100.)
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Depending on the cut - around to $30 to $50 USD at Ruth Chris (prices vary by location). That's just for the steak - doesn't include sides, drinks or appetizers.

Never been to Ruth Chris and have no intention of going there - I don't eat much red meat these days. Well, I shouldn't say no intention of going there. If someone else is picking up the tab, I'll go with no complaint.
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It's worth it at least once in your life. To have a cut of steak tender enough that you can cut it with your fork is an experience everyone should have at least once.

That it's Max paying because of a foolish wager made in support of Nancy Lieder would definitely improve the flavor of the cut as well. Might I suggest the Cowboy Bone-in Rib-eye?
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How much is it for a steak in the US? I had one on Friday and over here it goes for USD12. (about R100.)
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Depends on where you go, what kind of cut and how much it weighs. You can go to a place like Texas Roadhouse or Outback and get a good steak for less than $20 and that includes two sides. But some people don't consider those "real" steaks. I, however, think they taste just fine and don't have the budget to go to places like Ruth Chris. Maybe I'll splurge one day and give it a try to see if the steaks there are any better.
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Never had any steaks better than those ya done yaself

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There is some truth to that.
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Since it's almost winter here in the U.S., thought I'd share a humorous video shot about a mile and a half from my house on Dec 30 last year:

[link to youtu.be]

Here's the full 8 min version:
[link to youtu.be]

I especially like the dumbass at the end that apparently thought, "I have a heavy diesel truck with 4WD...I can make this." And, actually, he would have if he hadn't stopped near the top.

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