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Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!!

 
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Part II
IDW knows that the English language is intentionally illogical and obtuse. This conspiracy would have a name, but all words are controlled...

IDW knows that he misspells words on purpose. Really. It´s another great excuse.

IDW knows computers are based on alien technology. Surely no human could have come up with the technology. He´ll show evidence of that too, someday. Maybe along with those dose calculations.

IDW knows the government has shut down forums because of his posts. But can´t name ANY of the forums.

IDW knows the Moon is not what we think it is.

IDW knows moonrocks are just magma that solidified in flight, lost all their water, and absorbed an amazing amount of cosmic rays in the seconds before coming back down to Earth.

IDW knows moonrocks were brought back to Earth robotically, even though he can cite no evidence for this, nor produce the robots, nor produce the people who worked on them, nor...

IDW knows he could have designed an automated-lunar-landing-robot that could vacuum up Moon samples (really!) and return them to Earth at age eight. He has produced no such designs. He also appears to miss why this is a particularly silly claim.

IDW knows that Moonrocks could be 'created' on Earth with chemical compositions and cosmic radiation signatures exact enough to fool geologists -- missing the small tidbit that until we HAD Moonrocks we couldn't know how to fake their chemical composition, and also lack any way of faking the cosmic radiation signatures, or the signs that they've always existed in a vacuum, or how they have zap pits...

IDW knows all the debunker's IP addresses. He just won't show them until later. Of course, "later," in IDW's unique language, often translates to "Never."

IDW knows and has calculated that the radiation doses the astronauts received during the Moon flights would kill them within two weeks. Er, three days. Um, ten minutes. Uh, several days. But Apollo 17 still worked. No, it didn't. Yes, it did. No, It didn't (IDW, make up your mind!). But, heck, "You'll get a half a rad exposure on a beach in a day or two, dumbass!"

IDW knows the Moon has "the lowest eccentricity of any known planet or satelite<sic>." When demonstrated that he was wrong, IDW redefined eccentricity to be a measure in kilometers, rather than a ratio to a perfect circle. When Charon was shown to have a smaller deviation in kilometers using IDW´s own unique definition, IDW replied it was a double-planet system. When pointed out that the Earth-Moon system is similarly a double planet system, and then ALSO pointed out that several moons have smaller eccentricities using IDW´s OWN definition, IDW unilaterally claimed victory again. What he had obviously MEANT was that the Moon had the lowest eccentricity of any moon or satellite not orbiting a gas giant, not in a double planet system, not orbiting Mars, and not orbiting anything else but Earth. IDW, to his credit, finally admitted "I was wrong, mistaken" about this point. Only took a year and a half to admit it. And now he's changed his mind AGAIN, denying it is a mistake. Sigh.

IDW knows that when he unilaterally declares victory, it must be so. Even when he spells unilaterally wrong. And even after he declared unilateral victory in the eccentricity subject.

IDW knows that a careful review of the threads in question by an impatrial <sic> arbitror <sic> will reveal IDW defeated the BABBlers on every single issue, from impact energy to lunar composition and density. And don´t forget the eccentricity, too.

IDW knows the radios on Apollo did'tt have enough signal strength to get to Earth. Of course, the probes currently on Mars don´t, either. Or Voyager. Or Pioneer. Or Mariner. Except now they can make it out to Saturn. No, they can't. But plutonium in spacecraft is evil! At least the non-sequitur is a valid argument, right?

IDW knows that "ESA doesnt claim to have sent the casseni or voyager probes, nor have they claimed to recieve signals from them," even though Cassini WAS partly an ESA probe, as was the Huygens probe that hitched a ride with it. IDW's research skills just keep improving!

IDW knows water is an element. I´m sorry, that was a typo.

IDW knows water is the only substance that expands upon solidification. Upon being shown others, IDW pretended he didn´t type ´element,´ and redefined solidification, rather than correct himself. I see a pattern.

IDW knows the REAL defintion of organic compound, and water is one, darn it! The rest of the scientific community does NOT know. Carbon? Who needs it?

IDW knows the textbook definition of organic chemistry, but won't state it. That merely means the textbook is wrong, and all the chemists are wrong, and all the chemistry students are wrong, and the controlled dictionaries are wrong...

IDW knows mass must be expressed in units of force in a "force equation". He gives no examples of such an equation. Nor solves any equations, either.

IDW knows an exponential function is any equation that contains an exponent. Even though it's not.

IDW knows craters in outer solar system are of non-impact origin since there are no asteroids out there *today*.

IDW knows there can be no "history" if no one was there to see it.

IDW knows he is a spectacular chess player. Except that when he got demolished in a chess match with DB, he accused DB of computer aid, rather than admit he simly lost.

IDW knows he has ´obtained evidence of at least two bonofide NAZI´s posting at the BABB forum and now operating at the GLP forum.´ He has not shown this evidence. I'm beginning to doubt he ever will.

IDW knows that my analog watch is defined as a nuclear reactor because tritium decay allows the hands to glow. Likewise IDW knows that a radium-dial wristwatch is a nuclear reactor. NEST would be at my door any minute, now, but thankfully don't listen to IDW, nor his unique definitions.

IDW knows he has a report about the nuclear reactors aboard Apollo. He just can´t identify the report. Nor admit that a "reaction cahmber" might be for reactions OTHER than nuclear ones.

IDW knows the explosion aboard Apollo 13 was a NUCLEAR explosion. Lovell must be one lucky guy.

IDW knows nuclear reactions were used for thrust during Apollo. He just can´t explain why, if we were using nuclear reactors for spaceship propulsion back in the 60´s and 70´s, we are´t doing so now.

IDW knows that the Moon rovers were nuclear powered too. What amazing miniaturization in the 70s!

IDW knows the technology to make compact television cameras did not exist at the time of Apollo. Won´t that be a surprise to people who owned cameras such as the Sony CVC-2000 (1965) - the first consumer vidicon camera, and dozens of later models.(See also: www.newseum.org for information the actual video camera carried on the missions.)

IDW knows he never claims he is superior, even when he says "Get on your knees before your superior."

IDW knows all innovations in science come from people like him. I'm not sure what qualities he is espousing here...

IDW knows "more about the Apollo hoax than any other person on this planet." Despite being unable to prove it is a hoax and despite all these amazingly obvious details getting by him, and his inability to do any research himself. Or footnote.

IDW knows he never engages in ad hominem, straw man, poisoning the well, argument from omniscience or other fallacious attacks, despite the fact that he does. And yes, he knows what all those mean without looking them up.

IDW knows space weather data is being withheld, and that space scientists worldwide must be in on it. Yet the data he uses appears on the Internet.

IDW knows posts are selectively visible on the GLP forum. It has nothing to do with his bad handling of the search engine. See part I for the refuting of this, and IDW's anything-but-logical reaction.

IDW knows his forthcoming book is destined to be a bestseller. But he won't give the title, nor any information about it. And it is due out at the end of the year... (2007) Oops.

End of Part II.
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Part III

IDW knows that if you "ask those rocket scientists to show their work on the ascent stage [f Apollo], they'll all balk, guaranteed." Despite the fact that they're work is on the Internet, and in physics texts all over the country, and give lectures, and...

IDW knows that hidden messages in TV commercials are being used to inform certain people of upcoming events. But no, he ISN´T crazy. He´s not. You can SEE the embedded commercials. Well, can´t you? CAN´T YOU?!?

IDW knows that he is not a follower, he is a leader. Of whom, no one knows. A cult of one?

IDW knows the World Trade Center towers were outdated and thus could be destroyed in the 911 hoax. Strangely, the Empire State Building, the American International Building, and the Woolworth Building, all of which are decades older, are necessary to the nation and could not be used in such a hoax.

IDW knows it is widespread knowledge amongst the American people now that Zionists and Freemasons were behind the murders of 3000 Americans on 9/11 and not Arab hijackers who were still living after the attacks. He cannot produce anything to PROVE this, of course.

IDW knows that Bin Laden had nothing to do with the WTC attacks, even when Bin Laden has claimed responsibility for them repeatedly in the last few years. But what does HE know?

IDW knows that there is no equipment on the moon left by a manned mission and this will be eventually discovered. I wonder what excuse he'll come up with when it's photographed in 2008-09. IDW, seeing the writing on the wall, now says fake equipment may have been placed, and thus now the only evidence he'll accept is photographs taken of the *footprints* on the Moon, so long as America had nothing to do with photographing them. And probably that isn't enough evidence, either.

IDW knows that the average life expectancy has dropped in America in the last ten years. He hasn't shown anything to confirm this, but knows it with typical IDW-100-percent certainty.

IDW knows that the AIDS epidemic was caused by the smallpox vaccine. Hoo, boy.

IDW knows, with 100 percent certainty, that cellular technology is used to control brainwaves. He has years of research and experiments to prove this. None of which he is willing or able to produce.

IDW knows that every word uttered over a cell phone is digitally scanned and recorded. Assuming that only half of the cell users in America spoke for five minutes to the other half of the cell users of America per day, that's over 20,000 hours of recorded conversation per DAY. Now where's all that stored? And who's sifting through it all to listen?

IDW knows the conspiracy against him is 4000 years old and is worldwide in scope. Yet this huge conspiracy seems so utterly ineffective against him. You'd think after 4000 years of practice, they'd be a bit more adept.

IDW knows that "You need to realize that the more you use insults and personal attacks without any real arguement the less you will be believed." Yet he uses insults and personal attacks without ant real argument more than just about anyone else.

IDK knows that Stephen Hawking "was poisoned in order to arrest the porgress(sic) his real work. It is not he that speaks throught he synthesizer." Despite the fact that before his illness really took hold, Hawking was largely saying the same things.

IDW knows that he forced the New York State Board of Regents to accept alternative answers that ignore relativity. Yet, strangely, the traditional answers are still correct on the actual test.

IDW knows the word 'unproven' isn't in the dictionary. Probably explains his spelling issues, too.

IDW knows how to calculate radio link budgets. He just has yet to show one.

IDW knows all radio astronomers are lying because they can't possibly pick up the weak signals they claim to. Sigh.

IDW knows that "S band means side band and it has nothing to do with frequencies in reality, though it is used in certain frequency ranges to maximize effectiveness."

IDW knows that digital images are not real images by definition. It must be that same dictionary that 'unproven' isn't in.

IDW knows that he can think independently and does not accept what he is told without proof. Of course, he knows he can think independently and does not accept what he is told WITH proof, either. Changing his mind or admitting error seem to pose obstacles just a bit too great for IDW.

IDW knows that 74444 must work for the NSA, even though 74444 doesn't. Maybe IDW has failing psychic powers?

IDW knows that the physics questions presented to him to test his knowledge were the *exact* same questions presented to him on his High School Physics tests. What a coincidence! I must be more psychic than IDW!

IDW knows that the inflation problems of the 1970s were caused by the Apollo program. Causes such as the Vietnam war, unwise monetary policy, and oil embargoes had nothing whatsoever to do with it.

IDW knows that the Earth is an intelligent design, but Apollo spacecraft weren't.

IDW knows the definition of irony. Particularly when he writes "you need to stop being so condescending at the saem(sic) time youre(sic) displaying ignorance, its pathetic."

IDW knows physics better than Einstein and Planck, and even Newton and Kepler. He also know electricity better than Gustav Kirchoff, Georg Ohm, Alessandro Volta, James Watt, and André-Marie Ampére. So stop messing with him.

IDW knows that "electrical light sources (i.e. light bulbs, LEDS, etc) these electrons come from the power source. Current flow (electrons) into the device and some of the electrons are emitted as light. The remaining electrons return to the power source." Despite the fact that Ground Fault Interrupters, which measure the current in both lines would constantly cut the circuit were there such an imbalance. I guess we've stumbled onto the great Light Bulb conspiracy.

IDW knows that "hundreds of people die every year due to lightening passing through the protective grounds inside their own homes." The fact that less than 20 of the yearly fatalities even *occur* indoors? Probably just another cover up.

IDW knows that boats and ships are not grounded, because "that defies rational thinking. Any leakage of electrons from a boat occurs through water, and not the ground." I think the jobs of electircal engineers and electricians are quite safe from IDW.

IDW knows voltage is the same in all parts of a DC circuit. Kirchoff's Laws? The same current leaving and entering a source? That's all wrong.

IDW knows that "Impeadance is the same as resistance, and is measured using what the laymen calls an ohm meter." He also knows multimeters have an "impeadance setting." Even though they don't.

IDW knows there aren't any calculators on the web to calculate impedance. When shown that there are dozens, IDW latches onto the legalese parts of pages, claiming that because the creators assume no liability, that they are not evidence -- neglecting to simply do the calculations by hand to check. I've seen this strange pattern somewhere before...

IDW knows Liquid Hydrogen and Liquid Oxygen were not used in the Saturn V, because hydrogen would be impossible to liquify, and there isn't that much in the world anyhow. Oh, wait, he just meant the first stage didn't use Liquid Hydrogen, it used kerosene. But all the cryogenic fuels had to be kept at thousands of pounds pressure anyhow, so the whole Saturn V is obviously impossible...

IDW knows that it doesn't matter that many organic chemists "include artificial synthesis of analogues of organic molecules into organic chemistry." He doesn't, and that makes it a fact. And you'd BETTER accept his definitions, too.

IDW knows that "One of the stupidist lies a person can utter is that another is a liar when hes not, without a method to prove it or evidence of the lie." Despite the way he accuses people of being government agents, gay, Nazis, or in league with the message board administrators without a method to prove it. IDW doesn't know what irony is, but he engages in quite a lot of it.

IDW knows that there is no gravity assisted trajectory, since "the gravity grabs you back, and thus you don't gain anything." All those complicated maneuvers are just for show.

IDW knows no rocket ever made a controlled descent before 1969. Strangely, the pilot of the Bell Rocket Belt was flying something that was "not really a rocket." Of course, we don't know what the IDWverse's definition of "rocket" actually is...

IDW knows that "Academia is controlled by special interests that are not really concerned with the truth." Therefore IDW has yet ANOTHER excuse to never test his ideas critically!

IDW knows that debunkers "wont present a well formulated response because you are incapable of doing so. Thats why you resort to the tactics of attacking the messenger while ignoring the message." Yet he attacks the messenger far more than any debunker.

IDW knows he has three computers upon which he tested "the resistance between the negative of the backup battery and the chassis." Except, moments later, he claimed that he "would never run such a test, and have never claimed I would." Ironically, his very next question: "SO how does this prove anything about my honesty?"

IDW knows the motherboard is never grounded on a personal computer, and to do so would destroy it instantly. Proving that the Geek Squad has little to fear from IDW as well.

IDW knows he was "in control of programing the launching of nuclear weapons" for the U.S. Navy. This leads to the inevitable conclusion that none of them will ever actually work.

IDW knows that people on the Internet project their shortcomings onto others. What on Earth does that show about IDW himself?

IDW knows that because 74444's IP number stays the same, he must work for the government. Static Ips? What are those?

IDW knows that he worked on the Super Collider and the project was completed in secret. This might be true: given his grasp of physics, it sure looks like the lowest bidder to me.

IDW knows that it is a scientifically verified fact that there are human hybrids with a dominant reptilian dna. Where is it verified? Maybe in IDW's own mind, and surely that's enough...

IDW knows the Windows Calculator doesn't calculate to enough digits to be useful. When shown it calculated to 32 digits, IDW then claimed it wasn't scientific, and was inaccurate anyway. When shown scientific mode, and that its accuracy is the same as any other calculator, he begrudgingly admitted it, but claimed he was somehow still not wrong.

IDW knows it all right up to the moment anyone asks him to show his work, or tests his knowledge. Then IDW just kind of forgets.

IDW knows that he "was born knowing more than any of you will ever know." And how can you possibly argue with THAT?
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Thanks for giving the List a new home, TLR. What I find fascinating is that, over on A.A/IDW's thread, a poster *requested* the List, then A.A/IDW HIMSELF said to post it. And when I did, he had to go complain to mods, get it removed and tried to get me banned.

Still amusing. Feel free to link/redistribute, etc., etc. A.A/IDW reaped what he sowed.
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In other news, the results from the chromosome testing the wife had done shows the baby is developing normally. Also, while a little early to be completely sure, it appears it will be another girl.
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Congrats!
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In other news, the results from the chromosome testing the wife had done shows the baby is developing normally. Also, while a little early to be completely sure, it appears it will be another girl.
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Also, I would humbly ask the thread owner if I might repost the Big List of IDW's claims, since it was deleted from his thread. Perhaps I can just hyperlink to it, once it is up. Thanks, in advance.
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I second the motion. If it pleases TLR, I think now that Nancy has been reduced to her little drawer on the ning, this thread could be a safe haven to debunk anyone that doesn't allow debate and discussion.
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Yep. ALL GOOD guys. Go for it!!

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All righty, then!

The REALLY-THERE-*CAN'T*-BE-ANY-MORE NEW BANNED FROM IDW'S THREADS BECAUSE HE CAN'T ANSWER Updated Big List of What IDW Knows, version 6.01 (Mar, 12) (Part I)

IDW knows the radiation dose calculations. He just won´t show YOU. And he CONTINUES not to show YOU.

IDW knows the calculation determining the force of two docking spacecraft. He just won´t show YOU again. After all, you're too DUMB to check his math, WHOMEVER you are.

IDW knows and can apply relativistic formulas. He just refuses for philosophical reasons. And fails to in a pinch, too.

IDW knows history. Well, sort of.

IDW knows he could have rigged a remote pilot system in a half-hour, using microswitches and servos, and therefore that´s what was used to hit the WTC with airplanes. He can prove this, (See Penn & Teller´s Bullsh!t series for a solid refuting of this) but carefully never PRODUCES said proof.

IDW knows that there will be a surprise martial law announcement in 2004. Oops. I guess we all just missed it.

IDW knows he has an above-average chemistry skill, but just can´t show his work. Nor get the correct answer. Nor use the correct notation. Nor...

IDW knows engineering. But the stuff he´s working on is way beyond top secret, so you´ll just have to take his word for it. IDW also knows he has invented many well known things. He just can´t mention ANY of them. Funny, that his name fails to show up on any patents in the ENTIRE database.

IDW knows he took off the gloves, but unfortunately no one seemed to notice. What a softie!

IDW knows he can write in a way none of the readers could comprehend. And probably actually spell properly as well.

IDW knows and promises that we´ll all be sorry. Never have been yet.

IDW knows who we all are. For we are ALL Duncan Kunz.

IDW knows his I.Q. is very high. You should take his word for it. After all, he's demonstrated it so well...

IDW knows he will soon reveal how Apollo was faked. Since he´s done such a bang-up job of it thus far. And continues to. Ad infinitum. But won't take his arguments anywhere byt here.

IDW knows that they are covering up the Apollo fraud by specifically opposing him and his posts, all the while letting FOX specials on the air that claim the same thing that reach millions of people. Interesting allocation of resources, there.

IDW knows the BA and J are paid to lie to the public, and he´ll cite evidence any day now. Really. Maybe next Tuesday.

IDW knows he can back everything he claims up with tangible data. But never provides the data. No matter how nicely you ask.

IDW knows he will expose everyone else´s total incompetence. But so far has only repeatedly demonstrated his own... in a myraid of different ways.

IDW knows threads are selectively visible on GLP but can´t explain how. He also can´t explain why the threads he claims are invisible seem to be just as visible in Internet Cafes or other public terminals. He has CONFIRMED this. Really. When demonstrated that this claim was directly caused by his inability to use the simplistic GLP search engine, IDW quietly dropped the whole routine, which he'd been using for *years,* and still did not admit his mistake. In fact, he still claims he's right, although he's never had a problem using the search engine since a DEBUNKER explained it to him. Intellectual dishonesty? Nah...

IDW knows the government hides HIS posts. Yet they can be found if you search for them in the correct way...which isn't the IDWway. And that if you use a traditional, very simple, method of searching, you find them every time. But IDW still claims he is correct, because his supporters drop away, and that can ONLY be due to the thread being 'selectively visible.' It can't possibly have anything to do with people growing bored of his posturing, can it?

IDW knows he has irrefutable chemtrail evidence. He just can´t be arsed to produce it.

IDW knows his is the superior race, but he´s not acting like a Nazi. This is an entirely DIFFERENT superior racism thing.

IDW knows he can prove in a court of law that Apollo was fraud. Subpoenas that have been threatened for years will be served any moment now. Can´t wait to get mine.

IDW knows he will do everything in his power to bring us to justice. However that awesome power seems limited to posting on an internet board, and never changing or challenging his ideas with his supposed intellectual peers. What a coward.

IDW knows he has given all the information anyone need to know to prove what he says. Strangely, it doesn't prove what he says. And, quite often, proves just the opposite.

IDW knows his superior intelligence is self-evident. Well, maybe to HIMself. And he continues to use self-evident wrong.

IDW knows smart people can´t spell or punctuate properly. It´s as good an excuse for his grammar as any.

IDW knows he has a far larger vocabulary than anyone else, he just chooses not to use it. Ever.

IDW knows how to cut and paste basic links, he just chose not to until very recently, after it was explained by debunkers. And then he still did it wrong. But he's still right!

IDW knows he has *evidence* that people are paid to post counter to him. He just can´t provide it. Ever.

IDW knows DrP and Duncan Kunz are being paid to lie about 9/11 and they know the truth. He'll be producing paystubs on the same day he cites the evidence about BA and J. Just wait a little longer...

IDW knows he´s won every single argument. Even if no one else sees it that way. You didn't know he's keeping score by the number of times one uses the word 'Fucktard.'

IDW knows chemtrails are not debunked because they are accepted as fact by everyone. Despite dozens of webages doing just that.

IDW knows that if he posts steadfastly that something is a fact, it is a fact. If he´s adamant about something, it MUST be correct. Like the value of 10^5. Or that posts are selectively visible here on GLP. Or, or, or...well, as IDW says himself: "As for providing you with proof, I dont see the need."

IDW knows time is running out. As for what, who knows?

IDW knows our version of reality is being shot to hell. Strangely, I feel fine. So does reality.

IDW knows he never lies, except when he does, and then it is justified.

IDW knows and applies the rules of logic. Well, except that pesky burden of proof thing. And those fallacious arguments. And that lack of math. And...

IDW knows Google is a controlled site, to keep the masses in line, and doesn't use it. Except when he does.

IDW knows that "youre full of shit as a christmas goose" is a rational rebuttal of facts, as is "Get a life, fucktard." Socrates would be proud as this demonstration of critical thinking.

IDW knows he has "scientifically verifiable evidence, incontrovertible and un empeachable <sic> that proves the Moon is hollow." But he posts only unverifiable, controvertible and impeachable evidence.

IDW knows NASA provides all the evidence to prove the Moon is hollow. Yet their tentative conclusions are in sharp contrast to IDW´s absolutely certain ones.

IDW knows NASA wants to keep the hollowness of the Moon a secret, and yet all his claimed data can be found on the Internet, some on NASA´s own sites. Though he never gives links himself. And the data doesn't show what he claims it shows.

IDW knows and understands quantum mechanics.

IDW knows the speed of light is just a really big made-up number.

IDW knows all of atomic physics is wrong, for there is no photon.

IDW knows photons are actually electrons.

IDW knows he has an answer why electrons and photons behave differently from each other in the presence of a magnetic field. It's because the electron is too fast! Or something.

IDW knows the speed of light in a vacuum is not constant.

IDW knows that cars that are moving have headlights that shine out faster than cars that are stopped.

IDW knows all physics post-relativity is wrong. Despite heaps of evidence to the contrary.

IDW knows that Einstein´s equations do not predict the energy releases of atomic reactions. Except that they do.

IDW knows the energy-state of the observer cannot affect the observed. Except that it does.

IDW knows that relative velocities have nothing to do with relativity. Except that they do.

IDW knows he can explain time-dilation and Mercury´s orbit without resorting to relativity. He´ll be showing his work really soon. Oh, no, he won't.

IDW knows relativity is a Jewish Conspiracy.

IDW knows no mass is lost in nuclear reactions. Won´t the reactor-techs be surprised. And the Periodic Table of Elements.

IDW knows many distinguished scientists who agree with his theories. He just doesn´t know their names, and can´t produce any evidence of this. Anywhere.

IDW knows he makes $80,000 in a weekend. But instead of going to the beach, spends all his time here. And seemingly can only afford dial-up. And only has old, crap computers.

IDW knows he has "been offered a salary of $150,000.00" to be an Internet Debunker. Well, given the $80,000-in-a-single-weekend job he supposedly has now, it only makes sense to turn it down.

IDW knows NASA isn't forthcoming with spaceweather data, even though it was on links provided to him. By NASA.

IDW knows he tells the truth but everyone else lies. Even though he has been caught lying more than any other poster.

IDW knows everyone is a racist. But repeatedly is the only one to demonstrate it.

IDW knows if he can´t understand something, then no one else can, either. Maybe he isn't as super-intelligent as he thinks...

IDW knows impact craters should be oblong. All that math stuff doesn't prove anything. Nor all the demonstrations proving that round craters result in the vast majority of impacts.

IDW knows relative asteroid velocities are well under 4 kps. Even though they aren't.

IDW knows that it is only speculation that Meteor Crater was formed by a meteor. The 30 tons of meteorite specimens collected there is just a coincidence.

IDW knows geologists can´t tell the difference between a fake moonrock and a real moonrock.

IDW knows all of chemistry is wrong, because he can´t believe specific gravity and mass can be measured in units so small.

IDW knows biology is wrong, because "Withen two years a domesticated pig released into the wild will grow hair and tusks...sorry if it debunks Darwins theory, but thems the facts...there is no evidence (for evolution) in the fossil record." Thus demonstrating that biology and paleoentology aren't IDW's strong suits, either.

IDW knows that it´s the human race against debunkers. Strangely, most of the human race doesn't know him OR the debunkers.


End of Part I
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>> For we are ALL Duncan Kunz.

Without explicitly "agreeing" with IDW, I can certainly say "I sympathize".
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IDW sounds a lot like Grant. Anyone else remember him?
A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos.
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IDW sounds a lot like Grant. Anyone else remember him?
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Ah yes, fondly! His web page is still up, or it was last time I looked, he has expanded it a bit, and thrown a bit of sand over the Nancy era....but still the delusions run deep and fast! A true nut.
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IDW sounds a lot like Grant. Anyone else remember him?
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Ah yes, fondly! His web page is still up, or it was last time I looked, he has expanded it a bit, and thrown a bit of sand over the Nancy era....but still the delusions run deep and fast! A true nut.
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>> A true nut.

As a true "fence sitter", I cannot belong to that crowd.
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I thought he was going to go away and work on his boat because his phone was bugged by some evil alphabet soup organization. He couldn't even stay away for a whole week. I am amazed at how short some peoples attention spans are.
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I thought he was going to go away and work on his boat because his phone was bugged by some evil alphabet soup organization. He couldn't even stay away for a whole week. I am amazed at how short some peoples attention spans are.
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And he doesn't do this for the money except, of course, when auctioning off his data to Warren Buffett.

Hilarious!
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Thanks for giving the List a new home, TLR. What I find fascinating is that, over on A.A/IDW's thread, a poster *requested* the List, then A.A/IDW HIMSELF said to post it. And when I did, he had to go complain to mods, get it removed and tried to get me banned.

Still amusing. Feel free to link/redistribute, etc., etc. A.A/IDW reaped what he sowed.
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Without explicitly "agreeing" with IDW, I can certainly say "I sympathize".
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Geez...why am I not surprised that you would say that, Melfy.

I used to think that there was indeed hope for you yet....but I now fully realise, Melfy, that you feel very much "at home" in the "crazies" camp of internet land.

You must be so proud of yourself always backing and sympathizing with the "doom & gloom" losers out there!!!

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IDW finally geys it right

With out a doubt my own mental abilities are impaired.
nearly everyone I know, same deal. People act more or less heavily stoned.

Sometimes I forget what I am doing while I am in the middle of it. As far as where my keys are or how much gas is in the truck, FORGET IT.
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Too bad I can't afford to participate. But ... ISN'T IT AWESOME!!!!
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Awesome that he fails over and over? Sure, if you say so.
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So, Max, didn't you say something was supposed to happen by March 15th? Clearly, nothing did.
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IDW finally geys it right

With out a doubt my own mental abilities are impaired.
nearly everyone I know, same deal. People act more or less heavily stoned.

Sometimes I forget what I am doing while I am in the middle of it. As far as where my keys are or how much gas is in the truck, FORGET IT.
 Quoting: Anonymous astrophysicist. 1356833

 Quoting: aussie 763624 763624


Oh, dear. I am sure he'll say it is a side effect of his 160-170 I.Q. Or whatever the number is this week.
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So, Max, didn't you say something was supposed to happen by March 15th? Clearly, nothing did.
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Gas just went up another 20 cents! It's at $4.29 a gallon where I live (and more closer to Chicago).

dwagain
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Gas just went up another 20 cents! It's at $4.29 a gallon where I live (and more closer to Chicago).

 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


That isn't a major catastrophe or a disaster killing millions of people. So, obviously, what you meant to say is: **ZetaMax** WRONG AGAIN!

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So, Max, didn't you say something was supposed to happen by March 15th? Clearly, nothing did.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Gas just went up another 20 cents! It's at $4.29 a gallon where I live (and more closer to Chicago).

:dwagain:
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And there's a big sinkhole in Milwaukee.

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Time to bring in your tomatoes.

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Gas just went up another 20 cents! It's at $4.29 a gallon where I live (and more closer to Chicago).

 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


And it fell almost 5 cents a litre here in the last week since last friday when I filled up
($1.54 a litre to $1.49)

I admit I long for the days when I first my P plates- it was only 32c a litre then (that was in the mid 80's)
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Really, ZM? *GAS prices* rising?

My. That's so unprecedented.
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Great title change, TLR!

As for Max, debunkers right as ever. Max wrong again. It's the 16th. Greece defaulted but nothing dire happened as a result. Nobody nuked anyone, no wars started, none of the doom he hoped for came. Clif is now cutting his losses in the face of yet another failure and is auctioning off his "data" and hopefully going into retirement (I'll believe that when I see it - he seems to like the big fish in a small pond kind of "fame" he has grown accustomed to, and the money.).
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Well, I'll soon be away from my friend's computer, from which I can post here. Don't know if when I am back home at my own if I will still be banned from there or not. Carry on...
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Has anyone checked out the "main establishment lies" page on the Poleshift ning? It's pretty funny.


"If you do intend to embrace any main establishment lies you will be suspended without any explanation. REASON paid debunking teams can completely disrupt discussion, as has occurred elsewhere."

And the "establishment lies" include:

# The Extinction Protocol blog/site (an arm of the cover-up, servicing the Establishment),
# Dutchsinse videos (he is a debunker),
# Project Camelot,
# HAARP,
# Illuminati,
# Invasion by extraterrestrials,
# planetary alignments; the "galactic plane",
# "global warming",
# "climate change"; La Nina; El Nino
# and/or comets (including Comet Elenin).
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Has anyone checked out the "main establishment lies" page on the Poleshift ning? It's pretty funny.


"If you do intend to embrace any main establishment lies you will be suspended without any explanation. REASON paid debunking teams can completely disrupt discussion, as has occurred elsewhere."

And the "establishment lies" include:

# The Extinction Protocol blog/site (an arm of the cover-up, servicing the Establishment),
# Dutchsinse videos (he is a debunker),
# Project Camelot,
# HAARP,
# Illuminati,
# Invasion by extraterrestrials,
# planetary alignments; the "galactic plane",
# "global warming",
# "climate change"; La Nina; El Nino
# and/or comets (including Comet Elenin).

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3559821


Yes, and "2012" also USED to be one of those, because it was an alleged ruse to keep people from preparing for the pole shift in time, because "2012 is too far out"- or it WAS, according to Nancy. Whoops!
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Well, I'll soon be away from my friend's computer, from which I can post here. Don't know if when I am back home at my own if I will still be banned from there or not. Carry on...
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Miss you, Menow. I always enjoy your contributions.
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Well, let's not forget that Max ALSO said that if nothing happens by April 1st, he'll admit it's game over. Personally, I doubt Max will do any such thing.
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So, Max, didn't you say something was supposed to happen by March 15th? Clearly, nothing did.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Gas just went up another 20 cents! It's at $4.29 a gallon where I live (and more closer to Chicago).

:dwagain:
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


...and it's still sitting at $3.77 a gallon here in paradise where the price has been the same for over a week.
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So, Max, didn't you say something was supposed to happen by March 15th? Clearly, nothing did.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Gas just went up another 20 cents! It's at $4.29 a gallon where I live (and more closer to Chicago).

:dwagain:
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


...and it's still sitting at $3.77 a gallon here in paradise where the price has been the same for over a week.
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sighs

and I am happy that ours has DROPPED to $5.97 a us gallon

no wonder all your cars can be gas guzzlers, we are paying almost double what you are for petrol, and many ozzies have long drives to boot (my personal commute has dropped recently with starting a new job, but at my older job I had a 60km drive each way to work- thats 37 miles each way 5 days a week

If a car gets less than 25/30 mpg in us terms (we use L per 100km here for fuel usage) i.e. 10l/100km which is is what you would expect from a 4wd toyota diesel hilux for example, about 7l/100km for a 4 cylinder) then it would either be a restored `weekend warrior' or other forms of transportation taked if possible, noone could afford to spend that much in fuel getting to work





GLP