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Now it's down to 695.

I'm wondering why no one on the troubled times board questioned her on where that money went. If I remember correctly, it was around 5k for the radio project.

Excuse me, just took a look at the non-profit. The funding was over 8,000 USD in 2000 and it came to naught. Now where did that supposed 8k go?


Here's another little bit of information, the board has decided to kill off the non-profit at the end of 2012.

Interesting. Late, but interesting.

Someone named Jan did question Nancy on some money issues - but no one else on the board cared and, eventually, Jan was either forced out or was removed if memory serves correctly.

$8000 is a good chuck of change - especially back in 2000 when some of the "super" radios such as the Icom IC-7800 and Yaesu FTDX-9000 didn't exist. You could easily have gotten a top of the line radio (like an Icom IC-756 Pro III), a tower, HF beam antenna and had it installed. It can still be done for that amount of money but it's a bit harder considering all the really good radios are over $2000...which is why I went with the Yaesu FT-950. Great radio for the price.

I questioned her at the time- and brought it up whenever it appeared to boot

the aussie with the 7 element cubical quad on 28 meters

yes that one nancy

Picture yourself on a runaway planet,
With long Dark Twin dust trails and orange lens flare skies.
Somebody calls you, you hear them in silence,
The Zetans with Third Density eyes.

Old Starburst wrappers of yellow and green,
Playing bad games with your head.
Look for the Zetan with the big sun swirl eyes,
And he’s gone.

Lieder in the Sky with Zetans!
Lieder in the Sky with Zetans!
Lieder in the Sky with Zetans!

Follow him down to a pole-shifting planet
Where apocalyptic people eat dead pet dog pies.
Nobody smiles as you drift past the red dust,
That’s piled so incredibly high.

Pumpkinhead Zetans appear at your door,
Coming to take you away.
Climb in their net with your head up your skirt,
And you’re gone.

Lieder in the Sky with Zetans!
Lieder in the Sky with Zetans!
Lieder in the Sky with Zetans!

Picture yourself with the brain of a Zetan,
With former PXers no more under your sway.
Suddenly someone is there, by the ambulance,
The white coats who take you away.

Lieder in the Sky with Zetans!
Lieder in the Sky with Zetans!
Lieder in the Sky with Zetans!
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I had actually forgotten this gem

(belongs to Maksutov btw)

havent heard it for years, but there was a totally `sings along until the penny drops - WHAAA???' utube or similar version that totally sounded like the original song-but had those words instead...

love to find it again

and another classic

Nancy Lieder had a cult.
E-I-E-I-O

And to this cult she told White Lies.
E-I-E-I-O
With a White Lie here
And a White Lie there
Here a lie
There a lie
Everywhere a White Lie
Nancy Lieder had a cult
E-I-E-I-O

Nancy lieder had a cult
E-I-E-I-O
And to this cult she made false claims.
E-I-E-I-O

With a false claim here
And a false claim there
Here a claim
There a claim
Everywhere a false claim

And a White Lie here
And a White Lie there
Here a lie
There a lie
Everywhere a White Lie
Nancy lieder Had a cult
E-I-E-I-O

Nancy Lieder had a cult
E-I-E-I-O
And she Predicted Planet X
E-I-E-I-O
With a Planet X here
and a Planet X there
Here PX
There PX
Everywhere a planet X

With a false claim here
And a false claim there
Here a claim
There a claim
Everywhere a false claim

And a White Lie here
And a White Lie there
Here a lie
There a lie
Everywhere a White Lie
Nancy lieder had a cult
E-I-E-I-O

Nancy lieder had a cult
E-I-E-I-O
And she predicted a Pole Shift
E-I-E-I-O
With a Pole Shift here
and a Pole shift there
Here a shift
There a shift
Everywhere a Pole Shift

And a Planet X here
and a Planet X there
Here PX
There PX
Everywhere a planet X

Anda false claim here
And a false claim there
Here a claim
There a claim
Everywhere a false claim

And a White Lie here
And a White Lie there
Here a lie
There a lie
Everywhere a White Lie
Nancy lieder had a cult
E-I-E-I-O

Nancy lieder had a cult
E-I-E-I-O
And she predicted a Pole Shift
E-I-E-I-O
With a Pole Shift here
and a Pole shift there
Here a shift
There a shift
Everywhere a Pole Shift

And a Planet X here
and a Planet X there
Here PX
There PX
Everywhere a planet X

Anda false claim here
And a false claim there
Here a claim
There a claim
Everywhere a false claim

And a White Lie here
And a White Lie there
Here a lie
There a lie
Everywhere a White Lie
Nancy lieder had a cult
E-I-E-I-O


Nancy lieder had a cult
E-I-E-I-O
And Nancy Lieder killed her dog
E-I-E-I-O
With a dead dog here
and a good meal there
Here a dog
there a a meal.
Everywhere a dog meal

and a Pole Shift here
and a Pole shift there
Here a shift
There a shift
Everywhere a Pole Shift

And a Planet X here
and a Planet X there
Here PX
There PX
Everywhere a planet X

Anda false claim here
And a false claim there
Here a claim
There a claim
Everywhere a false claim

And a White Lie here
And a White Lie there
Here a lie
There a lie
Everywhere a White Lie
Nancy lieder had a cult
E-I-E-I-O

Everyone, sing along!

credit to john jones btw

In a certain way this songs show all the highway of frauds and lies which are significant for the life of Nancy Lieder.
She will not be remembered very long after her death and what remains are the relicts of a scary old prankster which found enough innocent victims to start her strange internet cult.

It is a shame that she even stole donations from her stupid followers. There is a long story of abuse and criminal activities in the bio of Nancy Lieder. How should this songs continue ...

Nancy Lieder had a cult.
E-I-E_I-O
And her cult pets had some cells
With a lense flare here
And a lense flare there
Here a flare there a flare
everywhere a flare, flare

And old Flareberto had a cell
E-I-E-I-O
with a floppy-disk
and a floppy risk
here a lie
there a flare
but no brain nowhere
Old Flareberto in the glare...

E-I-E-I-O

At least we can sometimes laugh our asses off with this retarded ultrafools. I guess the poor Maxwell experienced the same of wakeup call and is now travelling through the USA with his guitar and singing this songs as a punishment that he believed in such a strange and weird culd.

Hi,
indeed there is a lot of new age garbage floating around nowadays.

You are right however that there are lof of rumors about "shift in consciousness", doom and gloom, age of aquarius and its implications etc etc.

Im not sure why we currently experiene such a boom with these matters, but I suppose the "2012 - Hype" played a big role in it.

At least I got into the doomsday-hype by material like Edgar Cayce's prophecy, Nostradamus, the Fatima-secrets, "the anti-christ", NWO, UFOs, secret technologies or the other popular controversial topics on the world wide web.

They all seemed to have one in common:
Big changes supposed to happen in the future and implications of "a new age".

Then suddenly the 21/12/12 date came up and became the bandwagon of doomsday-garbage all around the world and all of these rumors suddenly "became connected" and were asserted to 2012 or close to it.

Even mainstream media and Hollywood adressed it with movies like 2012 or slogans like "Find out the truth, google: 2012" to stir the pot (money).

The start of the grand' hysteria.

BTW: This presentation by David Morrison gives a good perspective about the various "2012-hypes" in my mind: [link to fora.tv]

What my views on this are?

As I said above, I believe the UFO phenomena is authentic and that we're not being told the full truth by official means. (Reason: it would somewhat threaten "national security" apart from the technological aspects, its implications and "exploited" knowledge the military is reserving for their advantage. )

But thats it - For the most part.

I don't think "reptilians" are invading humanity (shockingly, many seem to believe this), nor do I think we're going to experience a poleshift or other dramatic global catastrophes anytime soon ( Unlike WW3, or a collapse of the current system which would be fully man-made. ), or that we're going to "shift" into a higher density or some sorts...


Ironically Im studying Geoscience where we learn to conclude certain processes given to the situation observed.

It is true that earth experiences shifts of the magnetic-polarity - however these are A: Not occuring in a periodicity or at least not in the "3600-year-cycle" as Nancy wants their believers to believe, and B: Occuring in large, differing intervalls.. ( Sometimes couple thousand years, sometimes tens of thousands etc. )
So, there's really no basis to the 3600-year-Planet theory as Nancy claims.
>At least not on this planet.

On the contrary, the Mid-atlantic-ridge is one example showing the (real) history of earth by having a track-record of magnetic-patterns.
(Reason: Magnetic particles in liquid magma align with the magnetic field and become "frozen" in their position when the magma cools down rapidly (like when getting in contact with water) - as occuring in the Mid-Atlantic-Ridge: [link to geography-site.co.uk] )

We're currently in a phase where the magnetic-field gets weaker... but its nowhere near "reversing" as yet.
It might take a thousands of years to do so.... and if means any danger at all - is another question.

With the holidays coming up, I may have to find the Christmas themed "Planet X/Pole Shift" songs I had made up.

Like most words "hate" has it's various meanings depending on which context it is applied to. In Ms LIEDer's case her continual use of manipulation and deception on her cult followers; her everlasting use of thoroughly debunked falsehoods; and at times her continual insistence that her irrational and illogical ings are somehow "FACTS" that exist in our reality, yes these are things for which Ms LIEDer should be "called out" on.

Ms LIEDer is a "nutcase" and time has proven this. This is an indisputable FACT in and of its self. As we all know, MOST "it's the end of the world as we know it" DOOMSTERS shut up and go away after their predicted "doomsday event/s" predictably FAIL to materialize into our known universe of existence. But NO not Ms LIEDer!!! The woman has FAILED on countless occasions over the years and due to her denial of FACTUAL REALITY and her persistence to continual on the pretense that a huge rogue PLANET X would enter our Solar System and cause death and destruction to Planet Earth on a large and significant scale is a thing for which Ms LIEDer should be and is rightfully mocked and ridiculed over.

Look here, Nancy LIEDer has been thoroughly DEBUNKED over again with FACTS; KNOWLEDGE; and REALITY. Time has proven to be her greatest ENEMY and FOE. It is not individuals/debunkers per se. So one is left to only conclude that Ms NANCY LIEDer, the human interface of her Overlord Alien ETs, is plain and simply MENTALLY ILL.

That alone is a sad FACT for the woman but it is obvious that those around her are unable to productively guide her to seek the professional help that she needs. That in a "nutshell" is the REALITY of the situation, in regards to Ms LIEDer and "her" zetatalk crapola, but I can see it finally ending in only one scenario....and you don't need to be an "Einstein" to guess how.

I'm wondering if Nancy maybe decided to invest some of that money by "researching" the possibility of manufacturing a personalized "LIEDer time machine" unit so that she could "jump back in time" to relive the glory days of pre May 2003 all again?

I think I'm onto something here?

:lol4me:

I'm wondering if Nancy maybe decided to invest some of that money by "researching" the possibility of manufacturing a personalized "LIEDer time machine" unit so that she could "jump back in time" to relive the glory days of pre May 2003 all again?

I think I'm onto something here?

lol....
You guys made my day..

Here's another:

Nancy Lieder had a cult.
E-I-E-I-O

And when she speaks, the weak believe -
E-I-E-I-O

With a Planet here,
a lenseflare there,
her followers wouldn't question her.

A fancy world,
with much comofort,
- the only price: your brain milord.

With here a claim,
and there a fail,
Nancy has a crapload-tail!

A dead one here,
a bankrupt there,
would it even bother her?

Some care less,
some care more,
But surely not the attention-whore...

Gaining Fame,
while others blame,
it soon will switch - the bloody game.

Her body old,
her soul is sold,
without her we'll have a better world.

In 1994 I put up a 40 foot Rohn 25 tower with a Mosley TA-53M beam with Yaesu rotator. I believe the total amount installed was about $1,500. I paid less than 1k for a Yaesu FT-890AT which was replaced by a used Yaesu FT-767. Using just 100 watts, I had no problem hitting Japan from Dallas with that setup.

8k would have bought quit a bit more.

These days, less than a grand will get you a quite capable system.

Her shortwave effort was quite feeble - they never got past one or two lessons and I don't think anyone even bothered to get even a Technician license. Just another one of her pathetic efforts to prepare for the supposed pole shift.

Last Edited by bob_909 on 11/04/2012 08:09 AM

Unfortunately the guy did not do the finger test to exclude the orb at the2 o'clock position beeing a reflexion. The orbs on top are surely a reflexion of any kind.

As one can see in the video the last seconds show a movement in the two orbs but on top. Anyway, the 2 o'clock orb stays.

Unfortunately (for Poleshit-Nancy) the guy debunked himself with his fourth video:
Thread: The moons of Planet X are swirling - and Poleshit-Nancy lies again --- UPDATE AT PAGE 4

And do yourself a favour: don't mention the movement of the orbs on top at the Poleshit.ning - two other members did it and they are history now.


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Of course I saw the other videos where the guy debunked his own creations, but no word of him to the orb at 2'o clock. Probably harder to debunk.

The orb at 2 o'clock moves too, but because it's much closer to the sun than the other orbs, it moves only a little bit (angle of entry = angle of exit).
If you tilt the welding glas, the change is more prominent at greater angles.

Take a screenshot when the upper orbs are furthest from the sun.
Take another screenshot when the upper orbs ar closest to the sun.
Mark the center of the sun and the center of the 2 o'clock orb.
Construct a right-angled triangle using the center marks.
Make it with both screenshots and compare the triangles.

I just made it (quick and dirty setup). It's a movement of about 7px left and 20px up.
Not much, but sufficient to show, that it moves with the other orbs.


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So did people set their clocks? What does that say about Earth Halted in Orbit?

It says that the hoax with earth halting in its orbit was antoher scary prank of Nancy Lieder. But well, this is an old hoax which was debunked 1001 times.

Crazy Nancy never learns it.

Gerard Zwaan should definitely close the poleshit.ning because of obvious lies and criminal betrayal.

And yes of course the other orbs move too. They always move around, some more some less. Indeed they are called internal lense reflections, but this hoax was so often debunked too that I`m still surprised that this is still a question for someone.

All these so called objects around the sun are mere fantasies of some weird people who lost every connection to reality. And again and again I wonder why they never use their time to verify these lenseflares with a good telescope. These lense flare stories only appear on the poleshit ning and two or three other scary pages. You will never see such a kind of photo on a page of professional photographers or amateur astronomers because they know that this is bullshit (and they have the right equipment where this kind of artifacts dont appear: it is a scary prank.)

Poor Nancy and her weird followers....

Remember, *giggle*, when Nancy, *snort*, claimed that the date for, *hee hee*, Daylight Saving Time was changed to keep people from seeing "Planet X" in the morning on their way to work? LOL! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.

Raising doubts at the Poleshit.ning:

Comment by Fra. Iens
Still no signs of PX here in Urals (x1 floppy disk)
The dot at 11hrs is a glare (x2 floppy disk)

Nancy's Comment:
Seems you have something at 6 o'clock in your first pic, and too heavily filtered for anything BUT the Sun in your second pic.

[link to poleshift.ning.com]


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Hehe... Too bad there isn't a "0.5 floppydisk" he could use to see Planet X.

One floppy is too less,
two is too much.

Planet X needs to get in between (to exist only in his mind), then he got it right.

God... that they still believe this Floppy-crap...
Fra. Iens is on thin ice though... he'll soon be considered too doubtful... and they don't like when someone is spreading doubts over the ultimate truth.

LOL!! Seriously? There isn't a damn thing at the 6:00 position except two faint flares - one pink just above the horizon and one smaller purplish one below the horizon.

All those poor floppy disks sacrificed for nothing...



I just noticed something sort of funny, the membership numbers on earthchanges are now higher than poleshift.

The Pole Shift: A Message of Hope

Posted by astrogal50 on November 5, 2012 at 10:39am
It appears some who accept the truth about Planet X and the pending pole shift are becoming understandably discouraged and disheartened.

But it is not all doom and gloom, folks, because the Transformation is now.



56 days until the next FAIL of Poleshit-Nancy.



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Edit:
Link: [link to poleshift.ning.com]


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Last Edited by Hydra on 11/05/2012 06:20 AM

I see she stopped crowing that President Obama is going to announce the arrival of "Planet X" any day now...it's only been two months since he was supposed to do so.

Her habit is to drop and forget failed prophecies as if they were never uttered.

A Message of Hope for the Poleshit:

Astrogal50
"Shit, sheeple don't believe us any more - no sign of Planet X and only 56 days left."

Poleshit-Nancy
"Don't worry. There is the Comet next year - BISON or something like that.
We tell the sheeple it will hit Planet X and throw it out of orbit and after that it
will have its passage close to Earth and we get the pole shift.
Thus Flareber.. ahm Alberto can post more moon swirls, we can make up some news about
floodings and earth quakes and the world leaders have one more year to announce Planet X."

Astrogal50
"What a brilliant idea.
Ahm - and what about end of next year?"

Poleshit-Nancy
"Don't worry - may be another comet - We'll cross that bridge when we come to it."


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