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Message Subject Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!!
Poster Handle Menow
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Been reading some of the various "believer" sites. They ALL parrot the same false "evidence" of Nibiru- that IRAS found it in 1983, and on and on and on and on and on... MOST of those false stories originated with Nancy Lieder.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200

But, alas, Nancy Lieder's abilities (such as they are) have evolved from 2003. She has said that 2012 was too far out in the past, but has been really mum on timelines recently.

So, when 2012 comes and goes, a *lot* of Doom prophets will go poof. I have noticed a great amount of Nancy supporters have disappeared with the end of 2012 looming. But Nancy will continue onward, and will likely keep believing to death's door.

Her followers are the ones I find fascinating -- as they will continue to believe, even more strongly, as the failures pile up. Those attracted to other 2012 theories of Doom will be looking for something to fill the Doom void, and I wonder if some will find Nancy and her ranks will actually swell some...?

It's a sobering thought.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444

Yep. There is no telling what people will believe in the future. There is no logical basis for most of it now, except for the common denominator of conspiracy. Every single time I try to talk sense to any of the ones who believe in Nibiru, they ALWAYS revert to citing a giant conspiracy to hide the truth from us all and which keeps astronomers quiet.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200

And, despite their supposed interest -- none of them *become amateur astronomers for themselves.*

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444

Basically, they don't accept that there *IS* such a thing as amateur astronomy which knows much of anything. They seem to be people who have never truly applied themselves to any hard sciences or even a solid, physical trade of any kind. They all seem to wander about in a stupor of fantasy which is unrelated to physical reality. Yes- boggling, and you simply cannot talk sense to them. I'm not sure why I try. I guess it is just so fascinating to see how they rationalize what they believe.
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