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The above was "me".

You're following your normal pattern. When one prophet fails you just latch onto another. You're so predictable.

Come the end of June, you'll just find another false prophet to latch onto.

Yeah, we could all figure that out as soon as you mentioned remote viewing. You're the only one here that believes in that stuff.

+1000

Well, been kicking around IDW/A.A on the Solar data thread. He's still blaming a worldwide conspiracy involving jewish Mayan translators. Or something.

Thread: WARNING: SOLAR DATA PAGE COMPLETELY CENSORED,DATA ON OTHER SOURCES BEING FABRICATED! (Page 357)

He also said he will never reply to me again, so I consider that a 'win.' I'll just keep on pointing out his missteps, and he can fail to acknowledge, never realizing how weak that makes him look -- and how weak his various positions actually are.

I also notice he is promising to refrain from ever making specific predictions with dates in the future. Who does THAT remind you of?

And now claiming that Russia has no microwave ovens, even when someone posted up Russian sites on the internet where to buy them.

Classic.

Well, when false prophets are completely desperate and have too many fails in their portfolio when they will only make predictions without a specific date.

Nancy Lieder is the best example for such an epic fail woo-woo-prophet.

"Atlantis" "Cayce" "1968"

It's called Google.

Nancy Lieder aka Nancy liar and her poleshitters were hit by the Christmas Hammer again. You can easily see in her latest 7/10-hoax report that their brains are still wobbling...rofl

lmao ....

>> You're the only one here that believes in that stuff.

Thanks for confessing your lack of mental capacity. You obviously avoid FACTS that would negate your limited view of things.

What FACTS?

The FACT that the pole shift is imminent and Gerard Zwaan still lives 150 meters off the shore of the North Sea?
[link to goo.gl]

The FACT that Gerard Zwaan is not in a "safe location" despite an alleged devasting tsunami?

How about asking Gerard Zwaan if he believes in Poleshit-Nancys hoaxes and lies?


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Thank you for this information, Hydra. It was always clear for me that Zwaan doesn`t believe in Nancy`s weird predictions. More or less he helped her to escape from godlikeproductions.com to create a kind of repressive dictatorship in the poleshift.ning.com. So he has full control over the money flow of this board. He gets the money for the donations and I don’t want to know how much he earns with the handy-apps they are selling.

What is even more amazing is the fact that they are selling so called safe locations and Zwaan just lives 150 meters away from the sea. This is a professional fraud. Zwaan is a con man and a beguiler. Here I see no difference between him and Nancy Lieder. They are both into cheating and hoaxing other people and abusing their fears though in Nancy`s case it is more an exorbitant Ego that is driving her actions and pranks.
I will add this to the true story of Zetatalk I have written in my blog. You can find it here:

[link to beyoubefree.runboard.com]
So I can finally finish the story of Zetatalk and some other 2012-hoaxes. Zwaan is not alone because there are others out there like him. They are all mobsters who try to abuse and manipulate other people. A Patrick Garyl for example collected a lot of money from his followers to bring them (and him of course) to a safe location in Africa on december 21st. He never arrived there and wrote his last predictions in London. Of course this predictions - massive earthquakes all around the world - failed too (like crazy Nancy`s xmas-hammer always does)!

Last Edited by VeritasN1 on 12/27/2012 01:09 PM

Gotta disagree with you guys.
As I stated in my document, ALL Moderators believe Nancy's story to be true.
Gerard is not in a situation where he can just relocate. I wont detail on that, but I can say with certainity that he doesn't use the donations of the PS-Ning for ANY personal purposes. (Its all still there, documented and they could confirm if needed).
Gerard does indeed believe he's helping mankind by warning from an impending passage and accordingly he acts how he does.
He is not a con-artist, nor is anyoneelse other than NANCY.

She is the one who recieves donations from believers, sometimes in exchange for personal zetatalk. We talk about several thousand dollars here and they're certainly not going into ANY of the Moderators pockets.

Why? Because they all believe Nancy's story to be "pure STO" and taking money would be a contrary to that. All Money goes into Nancy's pocket and to my knowledge these are only the donations from willing members. (The mentioned APP was created by someone else, Eric Pham, the guy who interviewed her on "the Zetas Talk", and all money goes into his hands from it.)

Nancy rarely brings about these donations, she is very careful about it and appears to be not taking exessively much. She wants to appear humble.

However, you are assuming things over Gerard without any substance. Please note that I knew him for several years, I actually was one of his closest contacts, meet him personal and he really is not consciously misleading/scamming people. - Unlike Nancy.

Also we shouldnt forget that the whole EU-tsunami and all the doom and gloom was supposed to be eliminated by the "metal-boxes".
Gerard thinks he got some more time before he has to flee from the Netherlands.. but it is not like Nancy isn't constantly bugging the Mods to get their "preparations" going.

Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 12/27/2012 01:50 PM

Hi Tunnel,

I disagree with your opinion - at least partially.

I don't know anything about the money matters, so this is not my part.

But:
After the no-show of PX and the pole shift in 2003, Poleshit-Nancy said 2012 is too far out.
And in 2008 Zwaan moves to an appartement just 150 meters away from the coastline - despite the sword of Damocles (in the form of a 100+ feet tsunami rolling over the Netherlands) hanging over him?

Sorry, but I don't buy, that Zwaan is as innocent as you describe him.


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Hi Tunnel,

I disagree with your opinion - at least partially.

I don't know anything about the money matters, so this is not my part.

But:
After the no-show of PX and the pole shift in 2003, Poleshit-Nancy said 2012 is too far out.
And in 2008 Zwaan moves to an appartement just 150 meters away from the coastline - despite the sword of Damocles (in the form of a 100+ feet tsunami rolling over the Netherlands) hanging over him?

Sorry, but I don't buy, that Zwaan is as innocent as you describe him.


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Yup.
As I said, Gerard is not in a position to be able to easily relocate elsewhere. (I wont further detail on that because it is personal.)

But basically yes. He took that appartment 150metres away from the coastline while he expected a EU-Tsunami would occur somewhere in the future.
One of the alternatives discussed was that Gerard would come to Germany once the NM would show significant activity.
Since, I don't expect anything of it to happen I doubt it will come that far but he would be welcome anyway.

I think, the matter we are discussing here is wether Gerard knows what he's "preaching" or wether he doesn't...
From my experience with him I can only say he doesn't. (Which doesn't makes him innocent though)...

Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 12/27/2012 08:10 PM

What facts are those? Care to expand on that? And you say I lack mental capacity? Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.



Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 12/27/2012 09:05 PM

Like Nancy and her believers avoid?

I have no sympathy for Gertard. He made some nasty comments back when Dell (half of Nancy's defunct px imaging team) came here to tell his story and admit that they imaged nothing. He was around when she finally had to admit that from the start she didn't know that dec and RA are not the same thing as alt and azimuth, yet he still claims Nancy has never been wrong. He may be a nice guy, but he can be a real tool when he's defending Nancy. And we don't have to go looking for him, he comes to us. Maybe he believes Nancy's schtick, but to state after Nancy made an admission like this that she has never been wrong is a lie. He can be rude when he wants to, and he's been around her long enough to see how she treats others. If he is a nice guy like you say, I hope he someday realizes that he's been duped and will apologize for the harm he has helped spread. A nice person notices when someone is being mean and nasty and they either speak out against it or they walk away. He has done neither.

The brains of the ningtards are still wobbling....

Flareberto goes at it again. And what do we see?
Lenseflares, lenseflares, and lenseflares. You can even see his lenseflares jumping around when he moves the camera.
But for the ningtards this is big cinema. How stupid can some people be. Is there no limit on the poleshift.ning.com (poleshit.ning.com)

[link to www.youtube.com]

I can totally understand your frustration with him.
However we shouldnt expect rational-thinking from someone who only wants to see one side of the medal.
When someone debates ZetaTalk with a fervent believer, it implies an attack on their personal beliefs and accordingly many react in a very aggressive manner.
Gerard in that regard is a confused guy who is constantly drawn into a corner while Nancy draws out much on his back.

It is pure denial, just like the other Moderators, and just like I defended Nancy when I believed she was saying the truth.

We're guilty. Intended or not... and everyone will pay their price.
So I did.



I am sure that day will come... (at the latest when Nancy won't be anymore) and I honestly deeply worry about that day as that will be the hardest phase in his life.
Time will tell though... and it might be that he'll make a 180° switch and lash out on Nancy, big time.

We shall see.

Correct me if I am wrong, but JWD came here and flat out apologised for supporting Nancy's Nonsense(TM) and admitted to being totally wrong and misguided.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

I excused myself from the entire year of 2012 of GLP. Anyone care to update me?

Cheers to you and yours!

point form, of course

You are correct...and his posts about that might be in this thread somewhere.

Thanks.

Nothing changed of course.
The Miss Lieder keeps babbling nonsense.
Her cult-followers believe every word, nobody else does.

Zetas still 100% wrong.

HD,
you forgot to mention, that there was the "revolutionary red filter invention" (hold an old, dusty floppy disk in front of a cheap cellphone), allowing the ningtards to capture not only Planet X (filter flares at its best) but also the moon swirls (dust on the floppy) with never before seen details.

And more moon swirls every day (because Flarebertos floppy gets dustier every day).

Magically the "revolutionary red filter technique" only works with cheap cellphones - not with decent cameras.


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Old Bogusberto got a cell
I-A-I-A-O
And in front of his lense he has some flares ...

I wish all of you a Happy New Year.



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Happy New Year to all!

Indeed! Happy new Year everyone!
May you all have an interesting and insightful year 2013!


Same counts for the Ningsters...
btw: Nancy already hinted what to expect in the future:
[link to poleshift.ning.com]
Reply by Nancy Lieder
.... in case the announcement gets forever delayed.

Correct. It gets forever delayed because it was never planned.