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I seriously can't believe after the time has passed, and, the facts prove it is no existent, that people still believe Planet X still exists.
What is wrong with you believers ?

EGG-cellent!

January 7, 2013 - 5 months, 8 days until the 10 year anniversary of Nancy's "Great Pole Shift Failure".

Hmmm....membership on the ning is down to 488...

The stupid is strong and it is always with Nancy Lieder and her last 488 followers. Every day the alarm clock wakes up some deadly stupid people. The worst are the last followers of crazy Nancy.
I don`t want to be too harsh with them as they are for sure brainwashed. In one year Nancy Liar has lost more than 90 percent of her last followers. Her tricks and pranks are too obvious now. Flareberto probably was the best debunker of us all. He showed even the people without too much astronomical knowledge that Lieder had no astronomical knowledge at all. And Lieder`s stupid zetas confirm and confirm the weird theories of an old lady who is a full blown nuts.

Even Gerard Zwaan, a guy who is selling cell phone-apps to give the people so called safe locations, does only live around 150 meters away from the beach. And again we are laughing our asses of. What a fraud and what a shame for the human race. Yesterday Zwaan gave out some info for the last crazy ones that he thought he discovered a second sun. Like always Zwaan and Nancy get their latest infos from youtoube or google (and some other weird hoaxes which are soon debunked). Zwaan will never understand that a second sun would be visible all the time for all the people around the world as long as the sun shines. Not only in Scotland, or Italy or wherever a crazy follower is getting drunk or under drugs….

We all would be dead for years as the gravity of two suns would mean a real Armageddon. The suns would eat each other and explode in a wave of total destruction. Nancy Lieder`s poleshift.ning.com is a running gag. And she was right: 2012 was really too far out (but only for her and her crazy predictions). Only a few are left who buy her bullshit.
You can find the true story of Zetatalk her.

[link to beyoubefree.runboard.com]

And for all the people who are tired of lame tards as Nancy and Gerard. You can find a great hotel in Indonesia. The name of the hotel is Poppies/Bali and it has some webcams. Reality is where you want to look at it. Nancy Lieder already claimed back in February/March 2011 that the whole area here was deep under water. You will be able to book a very amusing and entertaining vacation there for the next ten years. Indonesia always said: “Who to fuck is Nancy Lieder?” We guess the USA will sink first!”

[link to poppiesbali.com]

Ok that was lie, too! Nobody has ever heard there about the crazy old woman from Wisconsin and her Nancytalk.


Last Edited by VeritasN1 on 01/08/2013 01:43 PM

Make that 484...

Last Edited by bob_909 on 01/09/2013 07:05 AM

And none of the others there can see what the ones who leave had to say, or why they got banned, due to the strong censorship there.

Yes, the cover-up and the censorship there are strong. They try to avoid the truth with all means, legal and illegal ones.

The ningtards shall have no possibility to think. They have to believe what poleshit-Nancy tells them though she is telling them tons of nonsense. But more and more users there realize that they live in a weird cult without any truth inside. Nobody knows how much they suffer and how hard it is for their souls to leave the cult after years of wrong expectations.

I wonder who sent ann.s a confession here? Is this possible? We are all paid by the government and Trinity is our “Dark Lord”. Sounds like Starwars.

At least they have a blooming fantasy on the poleshit-ning.
But it is very poor, isn`t it. Only the last 480 cult-victims will believe this.

Apart from that I`m asking for my latest payslip. Why didn`t Trinity send me my money? And who will pay my bills later….lol….I want to have a new car.

They are somehow funny sometimes, but very sad if you watch the results. They will have another decade of time to explain why their Nobeeryou doesn`t exist. I think we will see the results in the 8 of ten. The 7 of ten slowly got a bad joke. Normally Nancy and her last followers should be in a 16 of ten right now. 2012 was too far out?

Nancy Liar should finally make her announcement and confess all her lies to the cult. Poor victims!

Make that 477...


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If there's a way to get paid for posting to the Internet, I would like 'in' please.

I've been doing if for free for years...

I've been accused of getting paid to be here since 2003. By my estimation, the government owes me hundreds of thousands of dollars in back pay.

You too? I thought it was just us foreign shills that were getting stiffed by the US government. I was counting on that money for my retirement. LOL!!

quick post before the insta ban kicks in

happy new year to ya all!!!!

(a kick in the teeth to the bunkers- I debunk yet get banned after every post until I reboot and log in the next day- so therefore debunkers are being prosecuted by the `ptb') therefore they are totally correct in everything they say-

thus the debunkers are correct??


hmmm....

nancy and the InterDimensionalWanker both use this as an argument- thus it `MUST' be true...

After all neither of them would be liars, and we can trust every word they say right???


right??


RIGHT???



(nancy LIEders lastest foot in mouth effort...)

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

she `attempts' to show that this orbit exists, thus planet `nevershow' thus exists in our solar system...


ummm...

(apart from the obvious problem that we dont seem to have a dusty shroud blocking off our view of the universe as they seem to think will happen...)

Look at this gem from that link...

`Kalas hypothesized that Fomalhaut b’s extreme orbit is a major clue in explaining why the planet is unusually bright in visible light, but very dim in infrared light. It is possible the planet’s optical brightness originates from a ring or shroud of dust around the planet, which reflects starlight. The dust would be rapidly produced by satellites orbiting the planet, which would suffer extreme erosion by impacts and gravitational stirring when Fomalhaut b enters into the planetary system after a millennium of deep freeze beyond the main belt.'

ummm...

isnt that EXACTLY in EVERY WAY the exact opposite of nancy LIEders description of planet X???



`wrong again'- 100% accuracy maintained- 100% wrong 100% of the time.....

zetas `rite' again.......

Is it correct the calendar shows 2013.... or is it a dream ?

This is a serious question. I guess poleshit-Nancy Lieder could answer it. It clearly shows that her scifi-story is over and out. Some years ago she claimed that 2012 would be too far out and the poleshit would have happened before. Disenchanted? You decide.

I saw that ann s. (=stupid) quoted me on the poleshit.ning.com. They are really desperate there as most of their members wake up and leave the strange cult of Nancy Liar. Only some true believers are left. They have missed the point that they are waiting now for more than ten years. Their planet said goodbye to every astronomical reality. They missed the point that it simply doesn`t exist. Only some stupid religious feelings are left. So they hate to read here. The truth tastes too bitter for them. And as they live in a world of lies and strong censorship which only allows there cult-thinking they can`t stand the truth. It must be for them like holy water on the cult-devil`s skin.

It is not only about the long time. Of course there is no planet out there which follows such crazy patterns. Every little hillybilly with some basic astronomic knowledge can confirm that.
I think we do
not have to make a list here with Nancy`s epic failures of 2012. This would get a very long list. If somebody wants to write it we will enjoy it. And please don’t forget the pics of Flareberto.

The real point is that they have no clue about time or astronomy or sane thinking. They got lost in their crazy cult which leads them nowhere: no matter how long they wait.

But I see it more like COS who was one of the victims: but he found back into reality. And he presented a long list of epic fails of Nancy Lieder. What happened with the other victims?
This list would be very long too. I can understand that they don`t want to read us as we are their bad conscience. They are in deep denial. Just remember the so called alien boxes which made a running gag out of the 7 of ten. All predictions were suddenly cancelled, because they were lies. And Nancy knew that. She is guilty. Nancy got pranked by a liar called David Masko and abused this lie to prank her own followers. Dirty deeds!

Of course the Ningsters don`t want to remember this anymore. They can wait as long as they want to, but in the end they will stay little victims of a dirty cult. A cult owned by the perversity of one old woman who wanted to be a big player. Where is her puppetmaster now? Where are all the dead dogs and other pets she and her followers killed and ate? It is incredible but that old scumbag really gave that advice out in 2003.


What happened to all the people who believed in the false predictions of crazy Nancy? People who moved to other places! People who gave up their work. People who even killed themselves ( like a young girl some time ago)! What happened to the Indonesians who believed Nancy Lieder back in 2010 when she announced the sinking of Indonesia? How many years do their last followers want to wait till they wake up! 2014? 2021? 2030? A mission impossible. Please wait, if you think I`m lying. But deep in your heart you know that Im the most honest guy you have ever met.

If you wake up one day in your beds and you have to tell your children your story: “Would you tell them the pranky shill-story of Nancy Liar”? I doubt that. She will get hers and we are all still waiting for her last announcement: I was a dirty liar. Please forgive me! A lost soul who wanted to get some attention.

Last Edited by VeritasN1 on 01/11/2013 02:33 PM

More and more I find tunnel vision to be truthful. Nancy is a so often wrong, she used some of my photos in a news letter and then maybe a week or son later i reproduced them and discovered they were little more than filter flares.

Its sad. I believed in the earth changes and on some level I still don't want to admit I was wrong but the amount of evidence that to support an inbound planet is underwhelming. I still keep an open mind and follow the weather but aint holding my breath. I don't think real zetas would talk mind fuck so many people and talk through some who is as fraudulent as Nancy has been proven to be.

I don't think you'll find any "debunkers" saying that everything is perfectly normal - although Nancy LIEDer wants her believers to think otherwise. The "debunkers" I know all agree there are things taking place on this planet that we should be concerned about...something we agree with Nancy on at some level. HOWEVER - "debunkers" disagree with her on the cause. She wants people, obviously, to believe that some "rogue planet" is coming to wipe out life on Earth and that she, and she alone, is mankind's savior - armed with special knowledge from a superior and highly advanced alien race that can't even develop and construct a reliable brain implant and that by worshiping her, you'll almost certainly survive the "pole shift" where she'll be treated as a celebrity as she rides from camp to camp. While "debunkers" may disagree on the source of Earth's problem, we DO agree that it is NOT caused by Nancy's mythical "Planet X". Like you said - there's no concrete and verifiable evidence of its existence. At least none for those with an open mind and the ability to think. One of the funniest lies I've seen Nancy tell for years here on GLP and elsewhere is that "debunkers" don't want people looking for themselves - and yet, if you were to scroll through the posts in her threads, you'd find the exact opposite! You'd see "debunkers" asking...TELLING...people to do just that. DO go out and look. DO learn something about astronomy - where the planets should be and how they should appear. DO purchase a telescope and learn how to use it. DO contact a local astronomy club and ask to view with them. DO learn how to properly photograph the sun. In reality, it is Nancy who doesn't want anyone doing this. She knows that if people were to search for and document "Planet X" using the proper methods, they'd find out that Nancy's claims simply don't stand up. That's the biggest reason she moved to the ning, where she has dictator status and full control over what gets posted.

Why don't you simply ask HIM? All that is required is a humble heart, an open mind, and your willingness to overcome your internal barrier like fear and doubt or feelings of unworthiness and resistance to change.

You had a good start once but now you don't qualify for an honest debate about the subject on the ning which is the Zeta's message delivered through Nancy. Deal with it or ask HIM, his answers will come straight, always.

This is very true, Circuit. We always tried to explain the believers and bigots how astronomy works. We debunked so many of their theories successfully and managed to help them out of their world of fear and daily agony. There are some earth changes we have to be concerned about, but they are manmade. There is no planet out that is responsible for all this. If such an object was close to the sun we couldn`t miss it. Everybody could see it with the naked eye. Thousands of astronomers – both amateurs and professionals – would keep records of it. But it never arrived because it doesn`t exist. Easy like that.

The so called proofs on the poleshit.ning.com are all a wishful thinking which is caused by superstition and the severe brainwashing of a cult. Lenseflares are no planets. Soho uses a very sensitive camera which causes a lot of artifacts and CCD-overflows (bleeding effects). You have to learn how things work before you try to interpret them. All this never happened on the poleshift.ning.com. And Nancy Lieder for sure has not the slightest idea how these things work. She has been proven to be so wrong so often that it`s sheer lunacy that some people out there still buy her “poleshit”. So we are not the bad guys or paid shills, we just describe how reality works (a reality that got apparently lost for some people on the poleshift.ning.com)

@ AC! Yes, he can ask me every day. But what should he ask me?
It is good that he awoke and I think we both agree in this. His whole life will improve now.

Last Edited by VeritasN1 on 01/12/2013 11:05 AM

Well said.
Nancy is good at projecting her own attributes elsewhere.

If something goes against ZT (general critique) = Paid debunkers & cover-up.
If reality is not fitting with her claims = Simulated by the COW.
If someone has doubts = he must be wrong, debunker, immature.
If you believe every bit of Nancy's words without questioning it = No problem here... Mission accomplished.


Did you saw Ann S' new blog about "paid debunkers"?

I just don't understand how someone can be so easily manipulated with the "paid debunker"- claim to dismiss any of the proof presented and avoid reading it alltogether.

After all...irrespective of the source of these claims (paid or not), someone should be still able to figure out wether what someone says is based on Facts or not.

I guess, if you psychologically can't handle your beliefs to be questioned, you'll automatically accept such no-arguments to avoid dealing with it alltogether.

In that manner,
No need to worry about arguments, as we're paid debunkers anyway which means ZETAS RIGHT AGAIN!

Here some examples:

- Hale Bopp was a "supernova"
- Earth is halted in its orbit
- the Venus transite went wrong
- Increase in Earthquakes
- SOHO EIT bloppers supposed to be "PX debris"
- 2003
- PS before 2012
- 7/10, 8/10... actually the whole 1-10 BS.



BTW: For newbie readers,
even though the PS-Ning claims here are only "paid-debunkers" (Note that they never presented any proof about it), there are also former Moderators here who came to the same conclusion about Nancy et all and this for a FACT.

Again,
"To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you're not allowed to criticize"


BTW: I was banned yesterday the whole day.
Tried X proxies but everytime they'd be banned again. (Too lazy to change the Computername and browser-data).
I don't like these means of forcing people to buy Premium-Membership.
- Karma for that. Suckers.

BTW2: If you're banned, just access GLP through Google Translator. You can read, but you can't post.

Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 01/12/2013 11:40 AM

It's always easy to spot a ningtard...

(and the irony of this poster talking about an `honest debate'- something nancy LIEder has run away from for the last eighteen years...)


She has had many chances for honest debate, yet every time she has run away and hidden on stage managed forums where she could ban anyone who asked her questions...

(and yes at one time glp was one of those managed forums hence the origins of this very thread...)

Great thread!!

I know I always can get a good laugh when I read the new postings. :D

Nancy never runs away, in fact it is you running away. You haven't read one word the Zetas wrote. Nancy is doing what needs to be done to bring out the Zeta's message. She is a fine person with a lot of love and inspiration. The same goes for every good hearted member of the poleshift ning. Your cold blooded intellect and beta wave ego cannot explain what the ning is telling us through STO Aliens.


Our Father, who art in heaven, we recognize that thou art all holy, loving and merciful; and that we are thy children, and not the subservient or depraved creatures that false teachers would have us believe. We are the greatest of thy creation, and the most wonderful of all thy handiworks, and the objects of thy great soul’s love and tenderest care.
Thy will is that we become at-one with thee, and partake of thy great love, which thou hast bestowed upon us through thy mercy and desire that we become, in truth, thy children—through love, and not through the sacrifice and death of any of thy creatures.
We pray that thou will open up our souls to the inflowing of thy love, and that then may come thy holy spirit to bring into our souls this love in great abundance, until our souls shall be transformed into the very essence of thyself. And that there may come to us faith—such faith as will cause us to realize that we are truly thy children, and one with thee in very substance, and not in image only.
Let us have such faith as will cause us to know that thou art our Father, the bestower of every good and perfect gift, and that only we ourselves can prevent thy love changing us from the mortal to the immortal.
Let us never cease to realize that thy love is waiting for each and all of us, and that when we come to thee in faith and earnest aspiration, thy love will never be withholden from us.
Keep us in the shadow of thy love every hour and moment of our lives, and help us to overcome all the temptations of the flesh, and the influence of the lower ones, who so constantly surround us and endeavor to turn our thoughts away from thee, to the distractions and allurements of this world.
We thank thee for thy love, and the privilege of receiving it. We know that thou art our Father—the loving Father who smiles upon us in our weakness, and is always ready to help us and take us to thy arms of love.
We pray thus with all the earnestness and sincere longings of our souls, and trusting in thy love, give thee all the glory, honor, and love that our finite souls can give.

Source: [link to www.truths.com]

Where is this blog?

I hear you.
When I got to the point where obvious mismatch stood in conflict with my previous beliefs I came to a cross-road:
Just avoid these mistakes and look at "the whole", or closely go through all your assumptions again and analyse them because some of these puzzle-pieces threatened the whole belief.

For me it was pretty clear which way I would have to take, while being aware of all consequences it could bear.
Sure it sucks, because you might have to admit yourself to be what, an imperfect, learning human?
Screw these thoughts, because it really dont matters who has egg on his face. Important are the results, especially when it involves other peoples lifes.

Admitting yourself of being (horribly-) wrong of something, can turn out to be one of the wisest decisions in your life.

Its all up to us, to figure out what is really going on and where the roots truely lie.


Peace bro.



[link to poleshift.ning.com]



Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 01/12/2013 02:12 PM

You have been fooled by the same false STO-motives as many others, including myself.

You say Nancy is not running away, so I might ask, why we can't discuss obvious mistakes in her claims on the Ning?
Their first rule say, "No debunking... of ZT allowed", so how can you claim she's not running away from criticism?
She is a cowardy Lady hiding behind a fassacde of STO-lecture and cozy fantasy, inducing fear and paranoia among the populace.

This "fine person, full of love and inspiration" claims that the planet you are living is halted in its Orbit since 2003! (While you can go out every night, watch the stars and compare them to a skymap!)

This lovely Lady, also says there a hidden Planet somewhere behind the earth called the "Dark Twin" a huge hunch of rock that nobody can really see or measure... (except sometimes from random people with cheap camera-images.)

This wonderful messenger, says there's a rogue planet in between us and the sun with a deadly tail of charged debris that was supposed to cause a poleshift in 2003, 2012 and now somewhere in the near future. (Although again, nobody except random cheap camera images, can really see or measure these objects.)

This Lady tells that there's a huge cover-up of these unmeasurable happenings in place and everyone who buys a telescope and some professional (filter)equipment becomes part of the great cover-up!

There are so many great things Nancy is claiming... it has no end.

But what about telling you, your life is going to change dramatically soon?
What about telling you, that you should rather quit your job and become independent with preparations for global doom and gloom?
What about telling you, that 90% of the people are supposed to die and you will be blasted back 100 years technologically?

What is her paranoia all based on?
- Her so-called "Accuracy"? A weak peace of either simple predictions or clearly wrong information.
- STO/STS/ aka. General life-lecture.
- Cheap camera images (lenseflares, sundogs and other artifacts), missinterprated sattelite images, demonized statistics, and blaming all the missing evidence on global coverup.


Oh this lady tells a lot if interesting- ahem- (as she herself says) " rather controversial" stuff indeed. Around 40.000 sites (Gigabytes) of it.
[link to www.laughton.com]

Do you get the picture?

If some day someone is able to show me verifiable proof of planet x I would accept I was wrong and change my way of thinking about things. For years I have asked for evidence and none has been given. At my age, I have discarded so many opinions and beliefs that I've held and formed new ones precisely because my mind is open enough and because I don't cling to anything I think I know. As soon as you turn off your critical mind and give in to belief, you become closed to real learning, because instead of examining your beliefs, you feel the need to defend them. I don't know why some people have so much trouble admitting they were wrong, or even exploring, testing their belief to see if it holds up against reality. In fact, science is based on overturning ideas that were accepted as true when new discoveries prove them wrong. I notice that most of the doom merchants have crawled into a hole since the end of 2012. Over my life I have explored all sorts of crazy cultish ideas and thanks to my critical thinking I was able to cut through the bullshit and not get sucked in to any of them. I've seen how people make life altering decisions because of doom merchants, and I've seen how dejected some people can become when their deeply held beliefs are exposed to be hoaxes for profit.

I haven't been fooled by anyone. You are trying to explain all this with your intellect which is impossible. Read, act and think with your heart using your intellect for everyday beta brainwave survival and ask for HIS love in your soul, as much and often as possible.

You do not yet show that you understand this concept. The Zetas where kind enough to let you act on the ning, you had a good chance to proof them wrong but you didn't. Then you were dragged out the ning and again you did not understand what really happend nor the concept behind all that. If you had there would be no doubt on your site.

Try not to be stuck into details and please stop picking on the people reading the ning. You don't need to do that. Let us please have our opinion, our point of view while you got yours.

I have read your document, as much Zetatalk as I could and almost everything on the poleshift.ning.