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The two of them think they are so smart. Unfortunately, by continuing to support the supposed "Jupiter tilt" crap, they are showing how stupid they are.

Neither one of them has the slightest hint of knowledge concerning astronomy and all they are doing is parroting whatever Nancy spouts. I also believe that none of the ningtards has bothered to look through a telescope at any planet or even the Moon.

Zetatalk and the ning are both moribund and only continue to operate because of a few (currently 441 ningtards registered).

It really is spooky how deeply ingrained zetatalk is in the psyches of the likes of planet 12 and ann s. They have invested so much into their current belief system they have become addicted to it.

I challenge ann s and planet 12 to get their cameras and record the sun then post on the ning or on youtube a massive planet would be easily visible?? Oh but of course the "council of worlds" permits viewing only... How blessed alberto must be that some how only he can see planet x... why doesnt the council of worlds permit nancy to snap pics of planet x???? surely the "emissary" of the Zetas would be permitted to take some un deniable photos that aren't just lens flares

While there is a lot of strange stuff going on on the planet, zeta talk is very easily debunkable, all it is is nancy doing a bit of research and stealing information from the likes of lyssa royal and the law of one... Her zeta talk has been PROVEN as lies by Tunnell vision.. So planet 12 and ann s, are you to addicted to your beliefs too much to be able to look at the evidence for AND against or are you too narrow minded to e able to consider that planet x is not going to wipe out nearly all of civilisation in your life time??

I think it's funny that for nearly 10 years, Nancy has been telling her zombies that "debunkers" don't want anyone looking at the sky when all one had to do is look through the posts and see that the exact OPPOSITE is true. "Debunkers" have been asking them to look for years! We've suggested that they get telescopes and learn how to use them. We've asked them to contact a local astronomy club and go to a viewing party. Hell, Hap offered to let Nancy or anyone she appointed use his set up to search for and document "Planet X"...a win-win situation for the Zetatards and yet NONE of them have done any of it. One might wonder why but the answer is pretty obvious. While Nancy has been telling them for years that ALL astronomers are in on the cover up, the REAL reason none of them have done it is because they're afraid - afraid of finding out how foolish they were to listen to Nancy in the first place. But time is eventually going to teach them the same thing because eventually they're all going to realize it when "Planet X" never shows up and the "pole shift" never happens. Eventually, even the most hardcore believer will get tired of Nancy's lies and excuses to explain away all the failures.

Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 01/29/2013 07:22 AM

I usally do not like calling names because people easily missinterpret it, but I would like to say a BIG THANKS to individuals as CB, bob, Menow, Astro, Returner, Hydra, all that I forgot to mention and all others who fought the BS of ZetaTalk (some for numerous years) regardless of constant accustations of being paid, shills or people preventing others from essential information. (After all, you guys know your true situation so it can be screw'd what the believers claim you to be.)

ZetaTalk seems to be on an historical low and no doubt the efforts of all "debunkers" merged into the present situation as it is and it stands as a true act of honor for those who recognize it as that.

In simple terms,
you guys are pretty fucking amazing and changed many lifes (including mine) to a better-, healthier-, more logical one. And thats it and I am deeply grateful because you are the reasons for dictatorships to falter and fail.


Hats off to you sirs.


Amen to that one!

Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 01/29/2013 02:00 PM

Hi Tunnel,

hm, i didnt know you where caught for a while as well.

I am german as well, if youd like to have personal contact i would be willing to.

Nancy`s last few members have lost every connection to reality. They live in their own fantasy world. Meanwhile there are only about 440 cult followers left.

Nancy made to many obvious mistakes and produced too much hoaxes. Even people who are not very bright understand that Flareberto`s latest funflares are more a sign of the religious obsession of this stupid old man than an astronomical reality. Everybody could see such objects with the naked eye.

The cult is more or less at the end. All their predictions of the last 15 years ended up in epic fails. Nancy is notorial liar and is known for that. But you can only make fools out of people for a certain time. In the end they will really start to watch the sky and see that there is nothing than their fantasy. The times of Nancy`s fraudulent cult are over.

Zwaan should stop the fraud and close the Ning. It is time for Nancy to say farewell ... ...

Hey AC,
check the link in my signature below... there you'll also find an email-adress to get in touch.

You're welcome.

Much appreciated.

The other day, we had some light cloud cover as a storm exited the state. It was thick enough that it blocked most of the sun but also thin enough that you could see where the sun was. To my surprise (NOT!) there was only ONE light source. No indications of a second sun at all. I took a picture of it with my phone. I was quite disappointed (NOT!) to see that neither "Planet X" or this "second sun" showed up in the resulting image. Once I get it off the phone, I post it on Flickr with a link.

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The lenseshitters are so damn stupid. Why do these people never realize that all they proudly present only happens in their camera and their fantasies.

Today the tards show some extra lenseflares from Fox News. How many times do they really want to count lenseflares until they recognize that all this only happens in their heads.
Millions of people could watch such an event live and with the naked eye. So far you have to be a member of the poleshit.ning.com to see Nibiru because all other people went to school or know how to handle a simple camera. Nancy`s show is getting more and more disgusting.

I wonder when Zwaan will show some mercy and close this daily freak-show. But well his prob is that he is a tard too.

Is anyone else having trouble accessing www.zetatalk.com? When I go there I get a screen which says:

"This website is currently unavailable! The web hosting account containing this website has been temporarily de-activated! If you are the owner of this website, please contact the support team to resolve this issue. If you are a visitor to this website, please access this page later."

Not unlikely that she will make another hype out of it.
Nasty CIA-hackers or some other BS to make herself more important...

wouldnt be the first time

I just took a peek at what Nancy serves her followers,
She just prepared them for lots and lots of additional (useless) years of waiting in her latest "8/10-Overlap"-BS:

Here some excerpts and some comments from my part:
[link to zetatalk.com]
....
We stated that the 7 of 10 plate movements would complete before the 8 of 10 scenarios would flower fully, and that the 8 of 10 is a long and oppressive phase, not over quickly within months. During the 8 of 10, mankind will be aware of the pending passage, whether there is an announcement by NASA and Obama or not. We have described an increased visibility of Planet X, aka Nibiru and its components during the 8 of 10. But has this not already arrived to some degree? One can scarcely go on YouTube without being flooded by videos of Nibiru, aka Planet X and its Moon Swirls. For the 8 of 10, as it progresses, Planet X will be positioned more to the right in the line of sight, so that sunlight will bounce off the dust cloud clinging to and thus shrouding Planet X, supporting dramatic Second Sun sightings on a daily basis, worldwide.

"the 8 of 10 is a long and oppressive phase, not over quickly within months."
- In other words, it will take loooooooong looooong loooooooong, and if that time still managed to pass she can strech it even longer by not being specific as usual.

"One can scarcely go on YouTube without being flooded by videos of Nibiru, aka Planet X and its Moon Swirls."

- WOW! So now she confirmed per the "Zetas" that the only evidence there is are whacky Youtube-Videos of lenseflares! Thanks for the confirmation!

During the 8 of 10, the Earth wobble will become so extreme, on a daily basis, that none can deny it. The wobble has already reached the point where it has pushed the weather into drought and deluge, severe storms and high winds, and temperature swings. The Global Warming excuse has failed to cover this, and the populace seeks an answer which only an admission on the near presence of Planet X can provide. But the wobble has not yet reached the point it will during the 8 of 10, when the Sun will be so out of place that none can deny it. Nor has a continuous blending of the seasons occurred as yet, though such blending is already occurring briefly and sporadically on occasion.


- So Global Warming doesn't cover the current changes but an alleged "daily wobble of the whole planet does"?
Then, where can that "proof of the wobble" (or even a slightest indication) again be found?

Oh right...

We stated that during the Last Weeks, Venus and the Dark Twin would escape the cup, allowing Planet X and the Earth to engage in their final wrestling moves. But what will occur prior to this point? Already Venus and the Dark Twin loom close on occasion, appearing as the monster persona with ballooning light rays and puzzling those who see this. These instances will increase, added to the certainly that Planet X, aka Nibiru, is indeed nearby. NASA will throw a frantic public onto Nancy and ourselves to explain the Repulsion Force when their explanations on planetary body motions fail. How do they know that Venus and the Dark Twin won’t crash into the Earth? Because the Zetas say so, will be their implicit answer.

"How do they know that Venus and the Dark Twin won’t crash into the Earth? Because the Zetas say so, will be their implicit answer."


- Aww. Pure 70+ year old arrogant comedy.( It must really suck to know (for certain) that you're not nearly as smart as you want people to believe Nancy.)

Already Venus and the Dark Twin loom close on occasion, appearing as the monster persona with ballooning light rays and puzzling those who see this.


- And these occurences again only show up on Youtube-Videos and amateur-images but not the SLIGHTEST indication elsewhere (Magnetometers, Telescopes, Sattelites etc)?

Oh right....

Where we are currently waiting for the 7 of 10 plate movements to complete, the stress on the plates is apparent. The sinking of the Sunda Plate and the folding of the Philippine and Mariana plates is approximately 70% complete, but the final moves will occur in conjunction with further progress on the S American roll. Though the cover-up has found it necessary to kill almost all the buoys on the Nazca and Cocos plates, the S American roll has barely begun, perhaps 13% of the overall changes expected. And the African roll is barely twitching, at present, perhaps 5% into the process. The chaos that has already been experienced is thus only a hint of what is to come. The N American continent is under tension so great that the Salt Dome caverns along the Gulf are fracturing, but the changes here likewise have not truly started. The US will be devastated, even with the New Madrid adjustment stretched out and moving slowly.


"The sinking of the Sunda Plate and the folding of the Philippine and Mariana plates is approximately 70% complete, but the final moves will occur in conjunction with further progress on the S American roll."


Mrs. Lieder, if you make such wannabe prophecy in the future you may should read a book about plate tectonics first...
Plates simply doesn't move that fast as you want your believers to believe!
70% completed?
Then why is not even one place constantly under Water?
Jakarta Airport is still open and the same counts for all the coastal resorts.
Look it up!

Oh right....


If these 7 of 10 plate movements are devastating, what will occur after these have completed, during the 8 of 10? We have at most hinted at what will occur, holding further descriptions hostage as we are looking for cooperation from the Puppet Master on media coverage for Nancy and our message, as we have stated so many times. We also feel the populace is not ready to contemplate our descriptions until they are aware of the big picture, and seriously listening to our words. Continuous plate movement in some areas will occur, along with a changed relationship of the continents to one another. The predicted explosions in Iraq as the oil fields are ruptured will also only occur during the 8 of 10 phase.

Mrs. Lieder, are you really sure you want to get into the Mainstream media (to be ripped apart into pieces)?
Want me to go to a Media-outlet and tell my Story?
Im sure the Media would be interested.... but it may not the reaction you expect... and there might be some people who know what they're talking about..

But it sounds like fun nevertheless!
"A Public Exposure of Mrs. Lieder... "

You may start mixing concrete for a bunker madame.


But the major 8 of 10 scenarios will be sociological, with riots and rebellion on the increase as food shortages increase and people realize the impact the Pole Shift will have on their lives. Families will be ripped apart by argument as those in denial refuse to budge and those determined to survive set their plans. Migration of desperate peoples affecting every country in some way will occur in the extreme, dominating the UN agenda and slamming borders shut. There is room on the planet to shelter all, though most may starve eventually due to food shortages. All this is the spiritual opportunity provided by the time of the passage, on Planet Earth.

Oh right... the usual lame common-sense mixed with the ideologies to underline your arguments...
Wow! Super-duper-intelligent-Alien-insights! (not)



Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 02/02/2013 03:25 PM

Dude, you really need some rest. Get real and grow up. Get a life man.

Did I hit a nerve?

Adressing such crapola is actually pretty fun, useful and easy!
Call it a nice compensation-brake from my geo-study.

I do have indeed better things to do, but when I see the crap as it is being put forth, I won't just go away.. Especially when I have some free time.

I know what to look for, and where to look for...Its a matter about minutes.

I got a life.. unlike you "man".

Still waiting for pX, AC?

Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 02/02/2013 03:26 PM

Why? Because he exposed your master's lies so well?

And didn't Nancy claim that the Zetas *destroyed* Columbia?

And it looks like I can post again!

When you are a follower of Nancy`s cult endless waiting will soon be your best friend. Nancy knows that Nobeeryou doesn`t exist. So she has to prepare her last few followers for some more years of lenseflares and endless waiting. But most of them grew up and don`t swallow Nancy`s lies so easily anymore.
Besides that Nancy lost all her memory. Or does anyone of the cult followers still remember her prediction that 2012 will be too far out and everything is over far before?

Cult victims need no memory. They just have to believe the next ridiculous prophecies of the cult master. And now Nancy is preparing her last few weird followers for some more years of endless waiting. Obviously counting lenseflares and monsoon rains never gets boring for some. Of course Indonesia is still where it always was. You just have to take a look at the various webcams in the internet. No one of Nancy`s last weird followers has ever thought about visiting this country like millions of other people do. Bad times for crazy cult leaders like Lieder.

Or does anyone still remember the “announcement” of Obama? Nancy tries to ignore this topic now as it is another hit on her endless hoax-list. Nancy Hoaxer, the crazy one from Wisconsin. If some hillybillies really believe her crap it is their own fault and epic fail.

And now she is preparing her cult followers for some more years of endless waiting: for nothing.

True that - how many times now was Obama supposed to make that announcement and didn't? What's keeping him from doing it now?

Welcome back!

I have to agree with CB. The announcement of Obama already got forgotten. Nancy knew that this was just a lame prank to keep her last few followers entertained. And as the 7/10 never happened Nancy slowly needs some new funny stuff to keep the ningtards entertained. Now she is offering them an overlapping 8/10 which will last forever. And everybody will feel the wobble. I can only feel the brain wobble of the ningtards: a severe brain wobble straight ahead.

The only thing that is overlapping in the Ning is the eternal stupidity of Nancy`s last weird followers.


And it is more than amusing to see how many Nibirus they find. And all look like lenseflares. Every Ningtard is allowed to find his own Nibiru. Sometimes it is small, next time it has two times the size of Jupiter. “Show me your Nibiru and I will show you mine. Hey, my Nibiru is far bigger than yours. No problem my Nibiru visits McDonalds every day, so he got a little bit fat.” So their eternal waiting fun doesn’t get boring: thanks to lenseflares and Bumberto with his old floppy discs.

Dumb and dumber and a few lenseflares left: welcome on the poleshit.ning.com. And on youtube every moron can find his latest Nibirus. It is amazing how much fun some stupid people can have with cell phones. Every day some new planets and in all sizes and shapes.

Membership on the Ning has dropped to 418 - a new record low. They are losing more and more cult members until no one is left. Soon no one will ask any questions on the weekly chats. How embarassing!

Not to worry - Nancy will just come back to GLP to do her yearly membership drive.

[link to poleshift.ning.com]
Thread Posted: Feb. 1. 2013
Date now: Feb. 5. 2013

So far 987 Hits resulting in 2 Questions.


Pretty much interest for the "only Zeta-Emissary" there is....

Membership now stands at 375 - a new record low! If it goes on like this there will be no ningtards left in a few months. Nancy is such an old hoax witch.

Maybe tomorrow

Thank you.

Well after Nancy`s latest "announcement" even the worst Ningtards slowly start to understand that they are a part of an endless waiting show.

1. No Nibiru!
2. No 7 of 10 (Indonesia wasn`t informed about Nancy`s predictions ...rofl)!
3. Remember 2003!
4. Remember Nancy`s predictions about 2003!
5. Obama never has heard of the Ning!
6. Nancy is playing some funny aliens who have no astronomic knowledge!
7. The 8 of 10 which will never start will last forever (years and years)!
8. Flareberto`s floppy-disc-pics are a running joke everywhere!

Good bye Nancy, good bye cult and good bye poleshit.ning.com!
You were not worth it!

Here's a prediction about what is going to be said on the ning concerning the recent 8.0M earthquake:

- they are going to claim it was downgraded.