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Talking about biased information from debunkers?

Oops, why didn't you quote another paragraph from the Yahoo article?

"Brown, who discovered Sedna, said another plausible explanation for that dwarf planet's strange behavior could be that a star swung near it early in the history of our solar system, throwing it for a loop. "Back at the time of the birth of the sun, the sun probably formed in a cluster of other stars. If true, they would have been close enough together to influence each other's outer planet systems, like where Sedna is," he said."

This I call biased information - cherry picking what fits your silly claims.


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As said before:
Come back with your claim, something is wrong with Pluto, when we have observed two or three complete orbits.


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Zecharia Sitchen is.

Robert Harringtons theory was valid at his time: a planet beyond Neptun in a almost circular orbit.

And guess what: it's also mentioned in the Yahoo article:
"On the other hand, many astronomers spent much of the 1900s searching for an extra planet, dubbed Planet X, beyond the orbit of Neptune, because they believed there were anomalies in the orbits of Neptune and the other gas giants. "But it turned out that anomaly in Neptune's orbit was the result of bad observation," Levison said. The search for Planet X was called off (though some conspiracy theorists believe this was a cover up of the planet Nibiru, which they say is on a collision course for Earth.)"
Did you even read/understand the article?


Father Malachi Martin?
OMG - the christian prophecies have something in common with Poleshit-Nancys prophecies: 100% FAIL
Beginning with the first prophecy made by Simon Petrus, who expected the return of Christ during his lifetime.



Robert Harringtons never had the idea of Niburu, he never backed Sitchin (not Sitchen, btw).


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Then you will never learn, you will just continue to ignorantly post articles that actually disagree with your beliefs and ignore the parts that do. That's willful ignorance and there is nothing I can do to help you with that, you have to choose to be rational.

:ita:

Don't forget to flush....

Dude,
I appreciate your calmness during these discussions..
However...What does "Trust" have to do with my document?

What does analyzing the claim that the Venus transit was off, has to do with trust?
(same applies to the other analysis since we are talking about public zetatalk here.)

That you don't trust me sounds like an argument to overcome the neutral, objective nature of analysis?

I mean, unlike some of their Moderators who argue "Do not trust him, he is a traitor whatever", I repeated more than once "Do not believe a word and make up your own mind"? Didn't I?

So I would be really curious what you mean by "you don't trust me"...

Because if you don't trust ME as a person, thats fine... (thats not even in conflict with ZT or pX per se),
but if you don't trust the analysis provided, then we get to an interesting point.. (Have you even replicated the examples? What was your result? Was Venus off by your calculations?)

Which one is it?

Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 03/19/2013 07:39 AM

About Sedna:
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Zetatalk accuracy, proof just keeps coming:
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Hey, SOHO-hunter....

it took 16 years to make pX known..
now It cannot even make itself known anymore but it needs to be announced first by Obama officially.

"Proof just keeps coming?" You say?

Yes, proof that it was BS all over.

( Question: Do you think HaleBopp was a "supernova" with years of tracking data?" and
how do you explain your "winged-globes on SOHO" (CCD pixels bleed along the readout row) wildly appearing, yet nobody can see these supposed PX-swirls whatever? )

Excuse me if you're not the mentioned SOHO-hunter... but if, I would really like to know how you deem this a rational behaviour.

Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 03/19/2013 07:47 AM

Let's talk about something concrete. Zetatalk claims that Earth stopped orbiting the sun in 2003. Is that zetatalk claim accurate?

So after all that braying on the ning about how Zetatalk supporters are banned from posting on GLP, you seem to have no problem posting here, even AFTER Nancy wrote attack articles against the site owner. Gee, I wonder if this means Nancy and ann s were lying about being banned? Yes, it does mean that.

Summary: EARTH'S TWIRLING WOBBLE, ROCK AND ROLL BEFORE THE SHIFT -> [link to www.zetatalk.com]

Summary: THE PASSAGE, IN PROPHECY AND LEGEND -> [link to www.zetatalk.com]

ZetaTalk: June Incoming
written June 8, 2004
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

ZetaTalk Chat Q&A for December 1, 2012: [link to www.zetatalk.com]

Use the search engine on [link to www.zetatalk.com] and [link to poleshift.ning.com] to find anything the Zetas and Nancy) have said about your wanted subject.

"Proof just keeps coming" is the title of the summary on [link to www.zetatalk.com]

I am not the SOHO-Hunter.

Talking about SOHO:

ZetaTalk: SOHO -> [link to www.zetatalk.com]
Note: written on Jun 15, 1999

ZetaTalk: SOHO Says So -> [link to www.zetatalk.com]
written December 5, 2009

SOHO Background -> [link to www.zetatalk.com]
on Sep 20, 2004
from GLP Message Board

All above links are only an excerpt of the search engine results of either [link to www.zetatalk.com] or [link to poleshift.ning.com]

Wipe with copious amounts of toilet paper and read the residue, once again Nancy remains 100% wrong, amazing!

Just another collection of Nancy's lies, starting with: "Planet X arrived in the inner solar system in 2003." It didn't happen. Nancy just SAYS it did. Yawn.



I didn't ask what Nancy has to say on the subject. I asked if the Zeta claim that Earth stopped orbiting the sun in 2003 is accurate, in YOUR opinion.

I don't care to wade through page after page of gobbldygook designed to fool the gullible.

I was banned ones but I don't believe it was due to talking about zetatalk or the polehift ning. I guess it was about money :-)

I see Kiwi-Hillbilly was here again. All this theories you are presenting here are not new for us. Some of course are stupid conspiracy fairy tales. The idea of Gomes is indeed more or less old and it would be no big surprise if we found another planet out there. But this planet is so far out and was always so far out that it is more or less as important for us as some rice in china. You can even eat some rice in China and get seriously ill.

This object would probably be a Transneptun and some scientists were talking about a planet called “Tyche”. Even astronomers talk about such ideas and try to verify respectively to falsify them. I doubt that a planet Tyche will be discovered. WISE could not detect it though some data still has to be exploited.

Why do you present us all the things we already know hillbilly-Kiwi? Do you want to distract from crazy Nancy and her weird theories. Copy and paste seems to be your only way you try to understand the universe. No wonder that you ended up in a weird psycho-cult like Zetatalk with the sadistic cult leader crazy Nancy. Every teenager could see a Nibiru in the inner solar system if it was close to the sun. You could see it with your naked eye hillbilly. So what do you want to tell us?

That you got a bad cult-victim? Why do you present us some astronomic theories which all contradict the weird prophecies of your cult-mistress? And why don’t you try to answer some easy questions the good-hearted people are asking you here. We are interested in your cult and the brainwashing system you went through hillbilly. For us you are a funny cultclown of Nancy Liar and the way you behave here proves everybody to be right, asshole.

And the next time you come here Nancy-Shill please try to tell us something new. No more copy and paste, tell us something about you and your strong relationship to Nancy`s third-class psycho-cult. How did you get a victim there? How long do you still want to wait? Why can nobody see your Nobeeryou with the naked eye or even modern telescopes?

Other questions you can also discuss in an astronomy club. Some of us are there too, but only around 5 percent there have ever heard of crazy Nancy cause she would never get a member there. She simply has no knowledge and would think the pebble stones in her yard are some moon swirls. And you sound like you would believe it too (if she told you). The sun is strong in New Zealand hillbilly so brainwashing is probably easy there. And you are a good example for that.


Last Edited by VeritasN1 on 03/19/2013 09:20 AM

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So that means Nancy was LYING about the ban, hmm?

Nancy Talk is irrelevant to me. It is important what the Zetas have to say. My personal opinion is irrelevant to you, too because you are unwilling to read Zetatalk, hence no discussion (with you) can take place.

1)I have read LOTS of Zetatalk. It's a pack of lies.

2) Apparently your opinion is not yours at all, but rather just a regurgitation of Zetatalk, right?

What a funny joke. Nancy is playing the Zetas for you. She is making some jokes and hoaxes with you. Nancytalk is Zetatalk you retarded Ningtard ...!

Last Edited by VeritasN1 on 03/19/2013 09:25 AM

Obviously I DID read the Zetatalk you cited, because I QUOTED some of it! REPEAT:

Summary: EARTH'S TWIRLING WOBBLE, ROCK AND ROLL BEFORE THE SHIFT -> [link to www.zetatalk.com]


Just another collection of Nancy's lies, starting with: "Planet X arrived in the inner solar system in 2003." It didn't happen. Nancy just SAYS it did. Yawn.

Nancy's planet DID NOT arrive- she and "Zetas" lied about that. Images of Nancy's planet arriving were NOT acquired- she and "Zetas" lied about that. I could cite hundreds of similar lies by Nancy AND "Zetas". It's ALL a pack of lies.

Oddly enough, I don't subscribe to the view that everything Nancy ascribes to "Zetas" has been simply "made up" by Nancy. I believe Nancy has actually been "channelling" over the years, whatever that is. It doesn't really matter, though- it's still a pack of lies.

It's exactly that - a joke. A bad joke too. Anyone who could seriously believe that that crazy lady has an alien communication tool implanted in her brain and realised her calling through a packet of sweets has serious delusional issues. Spouting lies pretending that it is *zetatalk* and murdering animals. What a lovely human being.......not.

To 1) I doubt what you say about having read Zetalk but you are somehow correct! I should have said: Read and understand Zetatalk. You simply haven't done so..

To 2) Like I said: you are unwilling and unable to understand or read zetatalk. To discuss or to answer your question about my opionion is irrelevant.

I did not expect anything else from you, VeritasN1.

There has been NO twirling wobble in Earth's rotation. Nancy and "Zetas" just SAY there was, and you apparently believe anything 'they' say. Anyone can take a time-lapse image of Polaris, any night, and see that it is still in its proper location near the center of rotation of the northern sky. Why don't YOU do that and prove me wrong? It's soo EASY!

There is no need to do so.

No, you mean read and BELIEVE Zetatalk. I understand what is being said, and it is a pack of lies.



You are describing a religion where your opinion is irrelevant. That's the way cults work. I'm asking if YOU believe Earth has been halted in orbit since 2003 and all you can do is refer me to your "Bible". Telling, that.