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It is pointless to ask again and again as long as you haven't read and understood the whole zetatalk including the one on the ning.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


I challange you herewith to tell us something we seemingly cannot understand. I mean, I've you haven't even tried, how can you say we cannot understand?

Which concept do you want us to explain?
Lets see how I could I remember those ideologies.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


No need to do so. It is not "us" and not "we", Cos. Again you are to ignorant to understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Ohh, so you're telling me you believe in the paid, BlackOPs BS?

Nope. Wrong again (SCNR).You wouldn't be doing what you do here if you really had read and understood zetatalk.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


"Nope" is not an argument. Learn that please.

I don't know about people perception about me and I don't care to be honest.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Thats fine. You shouldn't wonder then why people do not take you serious for that hot air.


The way you have choosen to leave the ning is what tells more about a person than what you are writing on this thread.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Lets see,
Here's my perspective on the crackdown as a short sum:

- I first noticed Nancy's logical fallacies slighty but then suspended these thoughts temporarily as the policy (even on the Modning) were increasingly getting strict.
- I was set straight by the other moderators, convincing me temporarily that it may just have been some negative thoughts I shouldnt worry about.
- I eventually came across more fallacies and more obvious false informations, starting doing some research and connected the dots.
- Went over everything over and over again to be sure that I've not made a mistake in my analysis.
- Concluded that what I believed was wrong, finally able to see the big picture of the Fraud.
- Concluded that throwing away the possibilty of at least giving all members the chance to read what I experienced would be egoistic, and a pity because many would never know what goes on behind the scenes.
- Prepared two very detailed documents (one for the Mods, one public) and did all what was necessary to get the message out, so everyone can make up their own mind about it.

What tells that about me in your opinion?
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


"Nope" is not an argument. Learn that please.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


Are you or are you going to be a teacher, Cos? There is nothing I can learn from you except those things I have already learned, sorry. (Yes I did, indeed!)

Thats fine. You shouldn't wonder then why people do not take you serious for that hot air.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


They don't take seriously what I say? Are you speaking for everybody? Fine for me and of course I don't care.

Lets see,
Here's my perspective on the crackdown as a short sum:

- I first noticed Nancy's logical fallacies slighty but then suspended these thoughts temporarily as the policy (even on the Modning) were increasingly getting strict.
- I was set straight by the other moderators, convincing me temporarily that it may just have been some negative thoughts I shouldnt worry about.
- I eventually came across more fallacies and more obvious false informations, starting doing some research and connected the dots.
- Went over everything over and over again to be sure that I've not made a mistake in my analysis.
- Concluded that what I believed was wrong, finally able to see the big picture of the Fraud.
- Concluded that throwing away the possibilty of at least giving all members the chance to read what I experienced would be egoistic, and a pity because many would never know what goes on behind the scenes.
- Prepared two very detailed documents (one for the Mods, one public) and did all what was necessary to get the message out, so everyone can make up their own mind about it.

What tells that about me in your opinion?
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


Correctly said. This is your perspective.

What tells that about me in your opinion?
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


Pardon? Hot air is certainly not what you want to hear about, aren't you?
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There is no question mark at the end of what you wrote, hence you came to your conclusion.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Here was another item from me, which you ignored. Note the question mark at the end.

REPEAT: Do you believe that everything in Zetatalk is correct and can't ever be wrong?
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


Have you completely read and understood zetatalk yet? All the vast amount of information, more that 2000 sites if I recall correctly. When you have done so we can talk but your question will be obselet.
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There is no question mark at the end of what you wrote, hence you came to your conclusion.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Here was another item from me, which you ignored. Note the question mark at the end.

REPEAT: Do you believe that everything in Zetatalk is correct and can't ever be wrong?
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


Have you completely read and understood zetatalk yet? All the vast amount of information, more that 2000 sites if I recall correctly. When you have done so we can talk but your question will be obselet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


So, just how does dog taste, German AC?
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There is no question mark at the end of what you wrote, hence you came to your conclusion.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Here was another item from me, which you ignored. Note the question mark at the end.

REPEAT: Do you believe that everything in Zetatalk is correct and can't ever be wrong?
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


Have you completely read and understood zetatalk yet? All the vast amount of information, more that 2000 sites if I recall correctly. When you have done so we can talk but your question will be obselet.
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There are better works of fiction available. The tale of Pinocchio springs to mind...
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Are you or are you going to be a teacher, Cos? There is nothing I can learn from you except those things I have already learned, sorry. (Yes I did, indeed!)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Here, especially for you:
[link to cdn.memegenerator.net]

Must be the Zeta-Logic.


Lets see,
Here's my perspective on the crackdown as a short sum:
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


Correctly said. This is your perspective.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091

Thanks! I try to differentiate my opinion from plain facts.

Whats your perspective? If any. (And why do I suspect you won't tell us :O )

What tells that about me in your opinion?
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


Pardon? Hot air is certainly not what you want to hear about, aren't you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Who knows! Maybe you suprise us with some arguments next time? And not just "nope" or "you're not able to understand" = hot air.

Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 03/19/2013 12:07 PM
"People hate the truth, luckily the truth doesn't care."
Author of "Zeta Talk exposed": [link to novnet.org]
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They don't take seriously what I say? Are you speaking for everybody? Fine for me and of course I don't care.

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Then why are you posting here?
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There are better works of fiction available. The tale of Pinocchio springs to mind...
 Quoting: Elemental


Or Peter Pan!
As you mentioned there even was an Operation Peter Pan, [link to en.wikipedia.org] goes to show Peter right again!
"People hate the truth, luckily the truth doesn't care."
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There is no question mark at the end of what you wrote, hence you came to your conclusion.

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Here was another item from me, which you ignored. Note the question mark at the end.

REPEAT: Do you believe that everything in Zetatalk is correct and can't ever be wrong?
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


Have you completely read and understood zetatalk yet? All the vast amount of information, more that 2000 sites if I recall correctly. When you have done so we can talk but your question will be obselet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


So you refuse to answer the question. Got it- and the dodge you use to avoid discussing any SPECIFICS of Zetatalk is demanding that someone read ALL of it. How droll.
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It is pointless to ask again and again as long as you haven't read and understood the whole zetatalk including the one on the ning.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


I challange you herewith to tell us something we seemingly cannot understand. I mean, I've you haven't even tried, how can you say we cannot understand?

Which concept do you want us to explain?
Lets see how I could I remember those ideologies.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


No need to do so. It is not "us" and not "we", Cos. Again you are to ignorant to understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Yes it IS "us" and "we" because several of us here are asking the very same general questions. When are you going to stop dancing around and playing word games? Is that all you have in support of Zetatalk? Yes, I believe it is. Show me wrong, if you can.
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


Nope.Wrong again. No word games played and it is not what I have, it is what zetalk tells you. Since you haven't completely read and understood it you showed your ignorance already. You cannot discuss this because you have choosen not to do so.
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They don't take seriously what I say? Are you speaking for everybody? Fine for me and of course I don't care.

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Then why are you posting here?
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


Why are you posting here? No one takes it seriously, too.
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Zetatalk accuracy, proof just keeps coming:
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
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So, this is when you showed up and started promoting the "accuracy" of Zetatalk. If you don't care to take the items on that page of Zetatalk, one by one, and support them logically, then why are you here? What good are you to the Zeta-cult if you just dodge questions?
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They don't take seriously what I say? Are you speaking for everybody? Fine for me and of course I don't care.

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Then why are you posting here?
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


Why are you posting here? No one takes it seriously, too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


THIS is a 'word-game' and a non-answer to my question. Yawn.
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I challange you herewith to tell us something we seemingly cannot understand. I mean, I've you haven't even tried, how can you say we cannot understand?

Which concept do you want us to explain?
Lets see how I could I remember those ideologies.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


No need to do so. It is not "us" and not "we", Cos. Again you are to ignorant to understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Yes it IS "us" and "we" because several of us here are asking the very same general questions. When are you going to stop dancing around and playing word games? Is that all you have in support of Zetatalk? Yes, I believe it is. Show me wrong, if you can.
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


Nope.Wrong again. No word games played and it is not what I have, it is what zetalk tells you. Since you haven't completely read and understood it you showed your ignorance already. You cannot discuss this because you have choosen not to do so.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


I dare say that virtually no one has read the entirity of Zetatalk, including YOU. Your dodge is transparent.
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"Pluto is undergoing global warming, researchers find
October 9, 2002

BIRMINGHAM, Ala.--Pluto is undergoing global warming, as evidenced by a three-fold increase in the planet's atmospheric pressure during the past 14 years, a team of astronomers from Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), Williams College, the University of Hawaii, Lowell Observatory and Cornell University announced in a press conference today at the annual meeting of the American Astronomical Society's (AAS) Division for Planetary Sciences in Birmingham, AL.




[link to web.mit.edu]


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Left a key bit of the MIT article out:

"Elliot attributes the increase to the same lag effect that we experience on Earth--even though the sun is most intense at its highest point at noon, the hottest part of the day is around 3 p.m. Because Pluto's year is equal to 248 Earth years, 14 years after Pluto's closest approach to the Sun is like 1:15 p.m. on Earth. At the rate of Pluto's orbit, it may take another 10 years to cool down and would just be beginning to cool when the NASA New Horizons mission to Pluto, scheduled to be launched in 2006, reaches it in 2015.

Pluto's predominantly nitrogen atmosphere is in vapor pressure equilibrium with its surface ice, and can therefore undergo large changes in pressure in response to small changes in surface ice temperature. As its icy surface gets colder, it condenses into fresh white frost that reflects more of the sun's heat and gets colder still. As space dirt and objects collect on its surface, it darkens and absorbs more heat, accelerating the warming effect. Pluto has been darkening since 1954."
“Fear always springs from ignorance” - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Zetatalk accuracy, proof just keeps coming:
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


So, this is when you showed up and started promoting the "accuracy" of Zetatalk. If you don't care to take the items on that page of Zetatalk, one by one, and support them logically, then why are you here? What good are you to the Zeta-cult if you just dodge questions?
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


Thankfully he is no good to his cult as he sounds deranged and brainwashed. The longer he continues the more people will shy away from their madness.
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There is no question mark at the end of what you wrote, hence you came to your conclusion.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Here was another item from me, which you ignored. Note the question mark at the end.

REPEAT: Do you believe that everything in Zetatalk is correct and can't ever be wrong?
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


Have you completely read and understood zetatalk yet? All the vast amount of information, more that 2000 sites if I recall correctly. When you have done so we can talk but your question will be obselet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


So you refuse to answer the question. Got it- and the dodge you use to avoid discussing any SPECIFICS of Zetatalk is demanding that someone read ALL of it. How droll.
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


You are willingly unable to discuss the whole thing since you don't have enough knowledge about the vast information on zetatalk. You have choosen to do so!
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Nope.Wrong again. No word games played and it is not what I have, it is what zetalk tells you.
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Zetatalk tells us things like that Earth has been halted in orbit since 2003, and that Zetatalk claim is demonstrably false. End of story.
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"Pluto is undergoing global warming, researchers find
October 9, 2002

BIRMINGHAM, Ala.--Pluto is undergoing global warming, as evidenced by a three-fold increase in the planet's atmospheric pressure during the past 14 years, a team of astronomers from Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), Williams College, the University of Hawaii, Lowell Observatory and Cornell University announced in a press conference today at the annual meeting of the American Astronomical Society's (AAS) Division for Planetary Sciences in Birmingham, AL.




[link to web.mit.edu]


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36477253


Left a key bit of the MIT article out:

"Elliot attributes the increase to the same lag effect that we experience on Earth--even though the sun is most intense at its highest point at noon, the hottest part of the day is around 3 p.m. Because Pluto's year is equal to 248 Earth years, 14 years after Pluto's closest approach to the Sun is like 1:15 p.m. on Earth. At the rate of Pluto's orbit, it may take another 10 years to cool down and would just be beginning to cool when the NASA New Horizons mission to Pluto, scheduled to be launched in 2006, reaches it in 2015.

Pluto's predominantly nitrogen atmosphere is in vapor pressure equilibrium with its surface ice, and can therefore undergo large changes in pressure in response to small changes in surface ice temperature. As its icy surface gets colder, it condenses into fresh white frost that reflects more of the sun's heat and gets colder still. As space dirt and objects collect on its surface, it darkens and absorbs more heat, accelerating the warming effect. Pluto has been darkening since 1954."
 Quoting: bob_909


Thanks. Perfect example of the 'cherry-picked' info utilized in support of the Zetatalk story.
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Have you completely read and understood zetatalk yet? All the vast amount of information, more that 2000 sites if I recall correctly. When you have done so we can talk but your question will be obselet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


I've read a bit of zetatalk and have come to the conclusion that it's stretched, strained, and screwed pseudo-science.

There are so many bad conclusions made from the tiniest of facts, that it doesn't pass the smell test.

Here's just a brief analysis:

Claim: small plane crashes increasing (all based on anecdotal evidence) - Truth: They are not (based on NTSB/FAA data analysis)

Claim: Earth is wobbling based on FY-2D weather satellite images - Truth: FY-2D is in a lisajous orbit which causes the images to infer the Earth is wobbling

Claim: Earthquakes are increasing (based on single-source data) - Truth: they are not (based on multi-source data analysis)
“Fear always springs from ignorance” - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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No need to do so. It is not "us" and not "we", Cos. Again you are to ignorant to understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Yes it IS "us" and "we" because several of us here are asking the very same general questions. When are you going to stop dancing around and playing word games? Is that all you have in support of Zetatalk? Yes, I believe it is. Show me wrong, if you can.
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


Nope.Wrong again. No word games played and it is not what I have, it is what zetalk tells you. Since you haven't completely read and understood it you showed your ignorance already. You cannot discuss this because you have choosen not to do so.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


I dare say that virtually no one has read the entirity of Zetatalk, including YOU. Your dodge is transparent.
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


I dare say that virtually no one has read the entirity of Zetatalk, including YOU. Your dodge is transparent.
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


Let's change that a bit and add some flavour to what you just wrote:

I dare say that virtually no one has read and understood to their best knowledge the entirity of Zetatalk.

If "they" in accordance to your "no one" would have, "they" wouldn't be on this thread, except those who want to really discuss and learn something on the subject. If you have entirely read and understood zetatalk you aren't ignorant anymore (impossible). Simple as that. But as long as you keep posting your black and white point of view questions and/or rants about the Zetas and Nancy you again were just to ignorant to understand the concept behind zetatalk.
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Nancy Talk is irrelevant to me. It is important what the Zetas have to say. My personal opinion is irrelevant to you, too because you are unwilling to read Zetatalk, hence no discussion (with you) can take place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Explain this from 2008:
[link to www.youtube.com]


@5:23
"Per the Zetas, the pole shift will not happen in 2012, but will occur before that date."


Zetas lying again.

How's that Indonesia sinking thing going? That was supposed to happen in 2010, then modified to the first few weeks of 2011.
Let's see:
December 2010 - Indonesia above the waves.
January 2011 - Indonesia above the waves.
January 2012 - Indonesia above the waves.
January 2013 - Indonesia still stubbornly above the waves.

Zetas lying again.

How about those 3 years of global crop failure causing global famines in 2000, 2001, 2002 leading up to the PX induced pole shift in 2003?
Remember, the PS can't happen until there has been 3 years of global crop failures... the Great White Lie didn't negate that ZetaNan prediction.
So we have at least 3 years of no pole shift... correct?

Zetatards.
A special kind of stupid.


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Bringing up that Washington Post article again? Have you bothered to read the whole article or just the bits that Nancy has posted.

The last two sentences are the most telling:

"It's not incoming mail," Cal Tech's Neugebauer said.

"I want to douse that idea with as much cold water as I can."

Have you bothered to read the scientific paper that one of the quoted scientists in the article is a co-author of? In this article, they come to the conclusion that it's NOT a planet.


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Have you completely read and understood zetatalk yet? All the vast amount of information, more that 2000 sites if I recall correctly. When you have done so we can talk but your question will be obselet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


I've read a bit of zetatalk and have come to the conclusion that it's stretched, strained, and screwed pseudo-science.

There are so many bad conclusions made from the tiniest of facts, that it doesn't pass the smell test.

Here's just a brief analysis:

Claim: small plane crashes increasing (all based on anecdotal evidence) - Truth: They are not (based on NTSB/FAA data analysis)

Claim: Earth is wobbling based on FY-2D weather satellite images - Truth: FY-2D is in a lisajous orbit which causes the images to infer the Earth is wobbling

Claim: Earthquakes are increasing (based on single-source data) - Truth: they are not (based on multi-source data analysis)
 Quoting: bob_909


[...]I've read a bit[...]
 Quoting: bob_909


At least you beeing honest about beeing completely ignorant.
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Yes it IS "us" and "we" because several of us here are asking the very same general questions. When are you going to stop dancing around and playing word games? Is that all you have in support of Zetatalk? Yes, I believe it is. Show me wrong, if you can.
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


Nope.Wrong again. No word games played and it is not what I have, it is what zetalk tells you. Since you haven't completely read and understood it you showed your ignorance already. You cannot discuss this because you have choosen not to do so.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


I dare say that virtually no one has read the entirity of Zetatalk, including YOU. Your dodge is transparent.
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


I dare say that virtually no one has read the entirity of Zetatalk, including YOU. Your dodge is transparent.
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


Let's change that a bit and add some flavour to what you just wrote:

I dare say that virtually no one has read and understood to their best knowledge the entirity of Zetatalk.

If "they" in accordance to your "no one" would have, "they" wouldn't be on this thread, except those who want to really discuss and learn something on the subject. If you have entirely read and understood zetatalk you aren't ignorant anymore (impossible). Simple as that. But as long as you keep posting your black and white point of view questions and/or rants about the Zetas and Nancy you again were just to ignorant to understand the concept behind zetatalk.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


I wasn't trying to discuss "the concept behind Zetatalk" and neither were you. You are welcome to bring that up, if you wish. Guess what... unlike on Nancy's ning, you won't be banned for doing so.

Now- What I and several others have asked you about is a demonstrable fact- whether Earth is actually halted in orbit since 2003. You refuse to discuss it. Got it.
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I dare say that virtually no one has read and understood to their best knowledge the entirity of Zetatalk.
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There is no need to read the entire ZetaTalk.

ZetaTalk claims to be 100 percent accurate. If you come to the first point where it is not accurate - it's done.

For example:


Earth Wobble
ZetaTalk: a Twirling Wobble

written May 25 2004
"An Earth wobble developed in 2004, under the influence of Planet X, the Zetas first warning of the extent of this on May 25, 2004. By Nov 27, 2004 the wobble had become obvious. ...
The Figure 8 pattern was documented by people all over the world ..."

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

In 1996 Meade introduced the ETX-Series, computer aided Telescopes. The smallest, ETX-60 and ETX-70, come with the Autostar #494 that can not be updated (lates firmware still from 2001).

Please explain, how a computerised telescope, programmed in (at best) 2001 can still go to and track celestial objects, when Earth wobbles uncontrollable since 2004.

Perhaps you can ask Alberto Cardin - he owns (or owned) one. Unfortunately he never made one of his famous sun shots with his ETX.
Was it because he couldn't find Planet X and the moon swirls with the ETX? Yep - the ETX don't produce lense flares.

No Earth wobble
ZETAS WRONG AGAIN

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Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!!
Nancy Talk is irrelevant to me. It is important what the Zetas have to say. My personal opinion is irrelevant to you, too because you are unwilling to read Zetatalk, hence no discussion (with you) can take place.
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Explain this from 2008:
[link to www.youtube.com]


@5:23
"Per the Zetas, the pole shift will not happen in 2012, but will occur before that date."


Zetas lying again.

How's that Indonesia sinking thing going? That was supposed to happen in 2010, then modified to the first few weeks of 2011.
Let's see:
December 2010 - Indonesia above the waves.
January 2011 - Indonesia above the waves.
January 2012 - Indonesia above the waves.
January 2013 - Indonesia still stubbornly above the waves.

Zetas lying again.

How about those 3 years of global crop failure causing global famines in 2000, 2001, 2002 leading up to the PX induced pole shift in 2003?
Remember, the PS can't happen until there has been 3 years of global crop failures... the Great White Lie didn't negate that ZetaNan prediction.
So we have at least 3 years of no pole shift... correct?

Zetatards.
A special kind of stupid.


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Have you even tried to search on the poleshift.ning?
[link to poleshift.ning.com] and follow the links in question #Q6 for a better understanding.
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Nancy Talk is irrelevant to me. It is important what the Zetas have to say. My personal opinion is irrelevant to you, too because you are unwilling to read Zetatalk, hence no discussion (with you) can take place.
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Of course you later changed that proviso to: "read and understand ALL of Zetatalk" so that you could avoid any discussion of specific claims. Heh..
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Nancy Talk is irrelevant to me. It is important what the Zetas have to say. My personal opinion is irrelevant to you, too because you are unwilling to read Zetatalk, hence no discussion (with you) can take place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Explain this from 2008:
[link to www.youtube.com]


@5:23
"Per the Zetas, the pole shift will not happen in 2012, but will occur before that date."


Zetas lying again.

How's that Indonesia sinking thing going? That was supposed to happen in 2010, then modified to the first few weeks of 2011.
Let's see:
December 2010 - Indonesia above the waves.
January 2011 - Indonesia above the waves.
January 2012 - Indonesia above the waves.
January 2013 - Indonesia still stubbornly above the waves.

Zetas lying again.

How about those 3 years of global crop failure causing global famines in 2000, 2001, 2002 leading up to the PX induced pole shift in 2003?
Remember, the PS can't happen until there has been 3 years of global crop failures... the Great White Lie didn't negate that ZetaNan prediction.
So we have at least 3 years of no pole shift... correct?

Zetatards.
A special kind of stupid.


R
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No Pole Shift Before Dec 21, 2012
ZETAS WRONG AGAIN
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Have you even tried to search on the poleshift.ning?
[link to poleshift.ning.com] and follow the links in question #Q6 for a better understanding.
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In other words, whenever they are caught in a lie or failed prediction they get to make up new rules or whatever excuse and you will believe it. Heh...
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Have you even tried to search on the poleshift.ning?
[link to poleshift.ning.com] and follow the links in question #Q6 for a better understanding.
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In other words, whenever they are caught in a lie or failed prediction they get to make up new rules or whatever excuse and you will believe it. Heh...
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Nope. Wrong.





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