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Wispa User ID: 31784394 United Kingdom 03/26/2013 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 3. I can tell who is a paid shill based on their behavior. For example, normally when someone is trolled they stop posting. But the paid shills never stop, they keep it up no matter how many times they are trolled. Of course, they are PAID to post and cannot stop doing their evil job. Duh! Is that an admittance to trolling to stop people on this thread from talking, Ann ? |
Menow User ID: 17887948 United States 03/26/2013 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ann S wants to communicate with us again, Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision [link to poleshift.ning.com] The point about the disappearing debunking sites and pages: This is happening BEFORE the announcement! Quoting: Ann S: 6hours agoOh, when was this announcement going to happen again (by 93% chance "per the Zetas")? Also, what is leading you to such a conclusion other than Nancy's claims? Do you have indefinite or even likely proof of such thing other than your own interpretations? Of course the debunking stuff will quickly disappear after the announcement when they are proved wrong, that Planet X exists. But why is that stuff going bye-bye already? Word is getting out about the announcement, especially since President Obama met with Republicans to tell him of his intention to officially announce Planet X/Nibiru. Beside the announcement is no proven thing other than Nancy's loose claims, if you are so worried about the stuff getting lost why don't you make backups? The paid shills at GLP are very helpful. Whatever they jump on and get all in a tizzy about (very fast as they monitor the paid debunker thread, appear not to have real jobs, nothing better to do) are clues ZetaTalk fans are onto issues that matter. Really, that argument again? How about directing that question to you? You seem to be very familiar with the stuff going on here... also you seem to be very busy looking for stuff that allegedly proves the Zetas right all the time. I may ask you, If the Zetas are so intelligent, why do YOU still need to look for THEIR truth to manifest itself? Wouldn't you think that you don't need to worry about their claims as they are allegedly right all the time, from all perspectives and angles? Oh right... then there are the debunkers shattering those little pieces of lies, exposed for what they are since they deeply lack basis from any rational objection. 1. They are upset that paid shills are known, wanted that to be covered up forever. Just check out how often Astromut/Dr. Astro and others are called out as shills at GLP. GLP readers can see this is going on. Ah, and because many say so it must be right eh? See how dependent you are on OTHERS INTERPRETATION? Not able to make your own judgement because you intuitively know that you deeply lack anything substantial to it? 2. The paid shills demanding that someone post absolute proof that a certain poster is a paid shill is absurd. This is akin to asking for proof a person is a CIA agent or part of another secret organization. Paid shillery is done in SECRET, so of course -- as the above article describes -- an ordinary person cannot prove who is a paid shill. Duh1 It is ABSURD to accuse them of being paid without any proof, also while it changes nothing of the facts presented. 3. I can tell who is a paid shill based on their behavior. For example, normally when someone is trolled they stop posting. But the paid shills never stop, they keep it up no matter how many times they are trolled. Of course, they are PAID to post and cannot stop doing their evil job. Duh! "Those pesky debunkers, they always find another argument that seemingly disconfirms what you just said...and then they don't just leave you alone!! Whats wrong with this people? I just explained to them that Earth is halted but they wouldn't accept it and invite me to all kind of difficult stuff saying you can look for yourself that earth is not halted.. Why don't they just leave me? I think they must be paid, otherwise why would they constantly debunk those things? I can't imagine any other reasons...As I wouldnt do it if I were them." - Immaginary believer I am not rich, I cannot afford land and a dome in a safe location. And during the Second Great Depression jobs are not easy to come by for Baby Boomers, so I am not about to quit a good job. That does not mean I plan to stay in North Texas and drown during the pole shift. Duh! Lucky you.... that way you didn't end up in the middle of nowhere waiting for some announcement to announce your planet x reality. The paid shill Circuit Breaker is proving to me he does not actually read ZetaTalk. If he did he would already know about Stephenville, Texas, a safe location about 90 minutes away from Dallas, Texas. Even former President Bush is supposed to have plans to move to the Stephenville area from Dallas where he lives, but only when the time comes. Mystery solved. I think CB is pretty familiar with the whole thing... maybe thats why you're accusing him of a being paid shill without any evidence. Same could be said about you and it is obvious that you just cant imagine someone to be so dedicated without recieving a penny. Or maybe it is that you can't imagine that people like you consider yourself to be, may have a totally different opinion? Mystery solved? See Buh-bye above. Quote Ann S: "For example, normally when someone is trolled they stop posting." What does that even mean? Some idiot posts some nonsense here on the debunker thread, so we are supposed to stop posting here? What?! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13806508 United States 03/26/2013 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course the debunking stuff will quickly disappear after the announcement when they are proved wrong, that Planet X exists. But why is that stuff going bye-bye already? Word is getting out about the announcement, especially since President Obama met with Republicans to tell him of his intention to officially announce Planet X/Nibiru. John Boehner on the phone to Shill HQ: "Obama's going to spill the beans! Scrub the debunker sites pronto or no worm burgers for you in the bunkers!" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13806508 United States 03/26/2013 03:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Funny over on the Ning: Yet another posting of "I Was A Paid Internet Shill" this time claiming it had been deleted from the site where it originally appeared. Fifteen seconds with Google shows it's still there under the "HOAX" section with a note added indicating that the author privately admitted it was a work of fiction. Plus more GLP and Trinity bashing after all the help and exposure he gave Nancy Lieder over the years. |
MoreAboutTunnelVision User ID: 36907781 Germany 03/26/2013 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Funny over on the Ning: Yet another posting of "I Was A Paid Internet Shill" this time claiming it had been deleted from the site where it originally appeared. Fifteen seconds with Google shows it's still there under the "HOAX" section with a note added indicating that the author privately admitted it was a work of fiction. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13806508 lol. Chances are good that they'll now spin it for their cover-up again. Plus more GLP and Trinity bashing after all the help and exposure he gave Nancy Lieder over the years. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13806508 I find that dumb mistake she made rather good to be honest... that way it should be impossible for Nancy to come back to GLP which would offer lots of potential victims. Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 03/26/2013 04:02 PM "People hate the truth, luckily the truth doesn't care." Author of "Zeta Talk exposed": [link to novnet.org] |
Hydra User ID: 36899301 Germany 03/26/2013 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Funny over on the Ning: Yet another posting of "I Was A Paid Internet Shill" this time claiming it had been deleted from the site where it originally appeared. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13806508 Service for Ann S.- new location in the ATS forum: /forum/thread826545/pg1 Fifteen seconds with Google shows it's still there under the "HOAX" section with a note added indicating that the author privately admitted it was a work of fiction. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13806508 I think Ann S. is still using "Google Classic". :googleclassic: . Last Edited by Hydra on 03/26/2013 04:13 PM :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 33360181 United States 03/26/2013 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL! It doesn't even take me that long to get a book from an inter-library loan! Last Edited by Astromut on 03/26/2013 06:39 PM |
bob_909 User ID: 36720998 United States 03/26/2013 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Funny over on the Ning: Yet another posting of "I Was A Paid Internet Shill" this time claiming it had been deleted from the site where it originally appeared. Fifteen seconds with Google shows it's still there under the "HOAX" section with a note added indicating that the author privately admitted it was a work of fiction. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13806508 Plus more GLP and Trinity bashing after all the help and exposure he gave Nancy Lieder over the years. It reads like a work of fiction. Ann S., of course, bought it hook, line, and sinker like the rest of the ningtards. “Fear always springs from ignorance” - Ralph Waldo Emerson |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10422385 Canada 03/26/2013 11:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is irrelvant whether the shills in this thread are "paid" or not. This is because they act like "paid" shills - roll playing without a hint of sincerity. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34325181 Why don't YOU show some sincerity and weigh in on the "Earth halted in orbit" claim? Well? Do you believe that Earth is halted in orbit? Why don't you go outside at midnight tonight and say what constellation is overhead. Then you can explain why you can see that constellation, opposite the sun, when it should be BEHIND the sun if Nancy's claim was correct. Commence dancing avoidance protocol now. Of course the earth is not "halted" - it never orbited the sun to begin with. So why are the outer planets ALWAYS visible? And always have been throughout recorded history? Seriously AC, you must have dropped out of school in grade 5. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10422385 Canada 03/26/2013 11:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ann, Zetatalk is so full of contradictions it debunks itself. According to Nancy the evil governments and NASA are covering up the existence of Planet X and the impending pole shift. So enter the Zetas, who have come to warn us. As part of their plan to alert humanity to our imminent end and to expose the powers that be, they tilt the earth to simulate the seasons because it has been stopped in orbit for 10 years now, and they don't want us to freak out. If they didn't do this, it would be obvious to everyone that something is wrong, but they cover it up by tilting the planet. So my question has always been this: If the Zetas want us to know the "truth" why are they covering up the very thing they have come to warn us about? Doesn't this make them just as dishonest and untrustworthy as the evil governments and NASA? Do you not see how silly the whole idea is? Of course if zetatards had a little education and critical thinking skills they would know that if the earth was really stopped in orbit, no amount of tilting the planet would make things appear normal. Why would anyone pay money to debunk that which debunks itself. |
aussie 763624 User ID: 36948340 United Kingdom 03/26/2013 11:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why don't YOU show some sincerity and weigh in on the "Earth halted in orbit" claim? Well? Do you believe that Earth is halted in orbit? Why don't you go outside at midnight tonight and say what constellation is overhead. Then you can explain why you can see that constellation, opposite the sun, when it should be BEHIND the sun if Nancy's claim was correct. Commence dancing avoidance protocol now. Quoting: Menow 36909193 Of course the earth is not "halted" - it never orbited the sun to begin with. So why are the outer planets ALWAYS visible? And always have been throughout recorded history? Seriously AC, you must have dropped out of school in grade 5. Sighs Just when I thought that the bunkers couldn't possibly say something even more stupid- another steps up to the plate and proves me wrong :-( (They make the characters from dumb and dumber seem like super genius when they come out with idiotic garbage like that) and they are allowed to breed and vote!!!! What hope does the human race have with people like that existing???? |
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prof-rabbit nli User ID: 36537467 Australia 03/27/2013 06:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excerpt of [link to www.zetatalk.com] [...]that after 23 years of efforts, they have discovered two new Universal forces hitherto unknown to the Science World. They have titled these forces by STREPULSION and RETRACTION FORCES.[...] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36779524 This means the article was published somewhere around 2003. I could not yet find a date of even mentioning Repulsion force before it was first mentioned and explained by the Zetas in September 1995 -> [link to www.zetatalk.com] Knew if you were given some rope you would hang yourself... quote THREE ELEMENTARY FORCES AND THEIR INTENSITIES In 1685, Sir Isaac Newton (1642-1728) announced his discovery of UNIVERSAL GRAVITATIONAL FORCE by publication of book titled “Philosophe Naturalis Principa, Mathematica”. This is Universal force of attraction. In 1980, I, Navinchandra K. Shah in association with my son (PANKAJ) and daughter-in-law (PADMA) discovered UNIVERSAL REPULSION FORCE and UNIVERSAL RETRACTION FORCE. The discovery announced worldwide from Hubli (India) by Press on 6th Feb. 1980 and appeared on 7th & 9th Feb. 1980 in all leading National Press as title news. end quote |
Circuit Breaker User ID: 30047168 United States 03/27/2013 06:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course the earth is not "halted" - it never orbited the sun to begin with. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34325181 Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 03/27/2013 06:07 AM A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36779524 Germany 03/27/2013 06:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excerpt of [link to www.zetatalk.com] [...]that after 23 years of efforts, they have discovered two new Universal forces hitherto unknown to the Science World. They have titled these forces by STREPULSION and RETRACTION FORCES.[...] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36779524 This means the article was published somewhere around 2003. I could not yet find a date of even mentioning Repulsion force before it was first mentioned and explained by the Zetas in September 1995 -> [link to www.zetatalk.com] Knew if you were given some rope you would hang yourself... quote THREE ELEMENTARY FORCES AND THEIR INTENSITIES In 1685, Sir Isaac Newton (1642-1728) announced his discovery of UNIVERSAL GRAVITATIONAL FORCE by publication of book titled “Philosophe Naturalis Principa, Mathematica”. This is Universal force of attraction. In 1980, I, Navinchandra K. Shah in association with my son (PANKAJ) and daughter-in-law (PADMA) discovered UNIVERSAL REPULSION FORCE and UNIVERSAL RETRACTION FORCE. The discovery announced worldwide from Hubli (India) by Press on 6th Feb. 1980 and appeared on 7th & 9th Feb. 1980 in all leading National Press as title news. end quote Goes even further backwards: [link to books.google.de] I am waiting for some other results regarding this, thus no answer of me yet. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36779524 Germany 03/27/2013 06:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excerpt of [link to www.zetatalk.com] [...]that after 23 years of efforts, they have discovered two new Universal forces hitherto unknown to the Science World. They have titled these forces by STREPULSION and RETRACTION FORCES.[...] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36779524 This means the article was published somewhere around 2003. I could not yet find a date of even mentioning Repulsion force before it was first mentioned and explained by the Zetas in September 1995 -> [link to www.zetatalk.com] Knew if you were given some rope you would hang yourself... quote THREE ELEMENTARY FORCES AND THEIR INTENSITIES In 1685, Sir Isaac Newton (1642-1728) announced his discovery of UNIVERSAL GRAVITATIONAL FORCE by publication of book titled “Philosophe Naturalis Principa, Mathematica”. This is Universal force of attraction. In 1980, I, Navinchandra K. Shah in association with my son (PANKAJ) and daughter-in-law (PADMA) discovered UNIVERSAL REPULSION FORCE and UNIVERSAL RETRACTION FORCE. The discovery announced worldwide from Hubli (India) by Press on 6th Feb. 1980 and appeared on 7th & 9th Feb. 1980 in all leading National Press as title news. end quote Goes even further backwards: [link to books.google.de] I am waiting for some other results regarding this, thus no answer of me yet. Just a side note: I could not yet find a date of even mentioning Repulsion force before it was first mentioned and explained by the Zetas in September 1995 -> [link to www.zetatalk.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36779524 |
Menow User ID: 17887948 United States 03/27/2013 07:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to poleshift.ning.com] Reply by Nancy Lieder 2 hours ago I can give you a quick answer on that as we are STILL in the 7 of 10 re plate movements, and much to go on that before the Last Weeks would arrive. Yes, the wobble has gotten worse and sociological changes (banking, etc) have picked up, but we are nowhere near the last Weeks. Nancy is easing expectations- extending her timeline. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36779524 Germany 03/27/2013 07:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excerpt of [link to www.zetatalk.com] [...]that after 23 years of efforts, they have discovered two new Universal forces hitherto unknown to the Science World. They have titled these forces by STREPULSION and RETRACTION FORCES.[...] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36779524 This means the article was published somewhere around 2003. I could not yet find a date of even mentioning Repulsion force before it was first mentioned and explained by the Zetas in September 1995 -> [link to www.zetatalk.com] Knew if you were given some rope you would hang yourself... quote THREE ELEMENTARY FORCES AND THEIR INTENSITIES In 1685, Sir Isaac Newton (1642-1728) announced his discovery of UNIVERSAL GRAVITATIONAL FORCE by publication of book titled “Philosophe Naturalis Principa, Mathematica”. This is Universal force of attraction. In 1980, I, Navinchandra K. Shah in association with my son (PANKAJ) and daughter-in-law (PADMA) discovered UNIVERSAL REPULSION FORCE and UNIVERSAL RETRACTION FORCE. The discovery announced worldwide from Hubli (India) by Press on 6th Feb. 1980 and appeared on 7th & 9th Feb. 1980 in all leading National Press as title news. end quote Goes even further backwards: [link to books.google.de] I am waiting for some other results regarding this, thus no answer of me yet. Just a side note: I could not yet find a date of even mentioning Repulsion force before it was first mentioned and explained by the Zetas in September 1995 -> [link to www.zetatalk.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36779524 User prof-rabbit nli 36537467: did you read this? -> [link to strepulsion.org] -> and search for the word "10th" in the PDF documents below: [link to strepulsion.org] [link to strepulsion.org] -> Result: Mentioned 19 times a "10th" Planet. [link to strepulsion.org] [link to strepulsion.org] -> Result: Mentioned twice a "10th" Planet. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 36537467 Australia 03/27/2013 08:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | User prof-rabbit nli 36537467: did you read this? -> [link to strepulsion.org] -> and search for the word "10th" in the PDF documents below: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36779524 [link to strepulsion.org] [link to strepulsion.org] -> Result: Mentioned 19 times a "10th" Planet. [link to strepulsion.org] [link to strepulsion.org] -> Result: Mentioned twice a "10th" Planet. I don't give a wank - you just keep putting your foot in your mouth and pushing! quote THERE WAS 10TH PLANET IN THE SOLAR SYSTEM, ORBITING AROUND THE SUN, THE ORBIT OF WHICH WAS LOCATED BETWEEN THE ORBITS OF MARS & JUPITER. THAT IS 260 MILLION MILES AWAY FROM THE SUN. THIS WAS EXPLODED BY SOME UNKNOWN NUCLEAR EXPLOSION AND DEBRIS SCATTERED IN SPACE AND REVOLVE AROUND THE SUN IN FORM OF ASTEROIDS 65 MILLION YEARS AGO. (3) THE FIRST MAN OR MAN LIKE SPECIES APPEARED ON THE PLANET EARTH 65 MILLION YEARS AGO. (4) METEORITE DESTINED FROM ASTEROID BELT OBSERVED HIGHLY RADIOACTIVE PROVE 10TH PLANET EXPLODED BY NUCLEAR EXPLOSION 65 MILLION YEARS AGO. end quote |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 03/27/2013 08:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to poleshift.ning.com] Quoting: Menow 17887948 Reply by Nancy Lieder 2 hours ago I can give you a quick answer on that as we are STILL in the 7 of 10 re plate movements, and much to go on that before the Last Weeks would arrive. Yes, the wobble has gotten worse and sociological changes (banking, etc) have picked up, but we are nowhere near the last Weeks. Nancy is easing expectations- extending her timeline. Well don't forget, 2012 was "too far out," and we're well into 2013 now, so we ARE nowhere near where she said the last weeks would be. We're beyond the last weeks lol. |
Wispa User ID: 31784394 United Kingdom 03/27/2013 08:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excerpt of [link to www.zetatalk.com] [...]that after 23 years of efforts, they have discovered two new Universal forces hitherto unknown to the Science World. They have titled these forces by STREPULSION and RETRACTION FORCES.[...] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36779524 This means the article was published somewhere around 2003. I could not yet find a date of even mentioning Repulsion force before it was first mentioned and explained by the Zetas in September 1995 -> [link to www.zetatalk.com] Knew if you were given some rope you would hang yourself... quote THREE ELEMENTARY FORCES AND THEIR INTENSITIES In 1685, Sir Isaac Newton (1642-1728) announced his discovery of UNIVERSAL GRAVITATIONAL FORCE by publication of book titled “Philosophe Naturalis Principa, Mathematica”. This is Universal force of attraction. In 1980, I, Navinchandra K. Shah in association with my son (PANKAJ) and daughter-in-law (PADMA) discovered UNIVERSAL REPULSION FORCE and UNIVERSAL RETRACTION FORCE. The discovery announced worldwide from Hubli (India) by Press on 6th Feb. 1980 and appeared on 7th & 9th Feb. 1980 in all leading National Press as title news. end quote Goes even further backwards: [link to books.google.de] I am waiting for some other results regarding this, thus no answer of me yet. Just a side note: I could not yet find a date of even mentioning Repulsion force before it was first mentioned and explained by the Zetas in September 1995 -> [link to www.zetatalk.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36779524 Talk about shooting yourself in the foot, nice find guys. I'd like to see how Nancy explains that lie away. |
VeritasN1 User ID: 35257620 Canada 03/27/2013 08:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Far beyond the last weeks ... lol ... The problem of crazy Nancy is the proven fact that she acts as a shill and liar. She is abusing the work of other people in pure plagiarism. So all her so called alien theories were debunked before she could even steal them. Even her so called repulsion force was invented and debunked in the early 80s. Lieder started her professional career as a scammer back in 1995 with her Hale-Bopp disaster. Also her religious concept is a stolen mixture of some new age cults of the 60s and the Mormons who are very active in her region. Nothing new here! She made a new cult of brainwashed followers out of it with some people acting as little children who never visited a school. Or how could somebody explain the traumatic psychosis that these people are trying to find planets with old floppy disks in front of their smartphones. The stupid is strong there. Nancytalk as we know it is a pure hoax. And a highway of always failing predictions. The problem is that the cultists ignore the facts. They hate the facts and try to live their disenchanted life in a kind of dazzlement and blindness. Even if somebody explains them the incredible mistakes in their lousy concepts they react like zombies. They think they must be right because somebody invests some time to show them that they live in a fantasy world. One of the worst of this humble servants and subscammers is indeed Ann S. She seems to hate her life and just babbles out every nonsense Nancy tells her. And so they wait and wait: an endless vicious circle which will never end, because the reason for their waiting they call Nobeeryou doesn`t exist. And all their prophecies fail and fail, but they wait and wait. Of course many of them awoke but the real zealots there will ignore everything that doesn’t come from the core of the cult. Their last announcement won`t be made by Obama. No, it will be revealed to them by a psychotherapist. Cults always do a lot of damage to innocent people and Nancytalk is one of the worst of them. And it isn`t surprising that some of her last creepy culttards show up here regularly, because they are more than desperate. No more members mean no more cult. And the cult is all they have left in their miserable lifes. We only have to protect other innocent people against the abuse of this scary cult (and some innocent pets too). We all know what happened with poor Ann S. or Gerard Zwaan. They got a little bit too woo-woo-urgh-ahh-uff ... Last Edited by VeritasN1 on 03/27/2013 09:03 AM You are a part of the truth as long as you mention it! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10422385 Canada 03/27/2013 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to poleshift.ning.com] Quoting: Menow 17887948 Reply by Nancy Lieder 2 hours ago I can give you a quick answer on that as we are STILL in the 7 of 10 re plate movements, and much to go on that before the Last Weeks would arrive. Yes, the wobble has gotten worse and sociological changes (banking, etc) have picked up, but we are nowhere near the last Weeks. Nancy is easing expectations- extending her timeline. It's pretty obvious that Nancy has lost most of her latest flock so now she is reorganizing her drivel in preparation for another member drive to suck in newbies that don't know about her past. Stretch out the time line, bury incriminating past predictions that failed, like the 2003 pole shift, the one in 2004, 2012 is too far out, etc. Sadly, there are apparently lots of people with a lack of basic education and the strong need to believe in something and belong to a group where they feel special and in the know. I think she has pretty much burned her GLP bridge by badmouthing the owner, but as much as they cry about being banned I am not buying it.They sure do pay a lot of attention to what is said on this thread. |
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Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 33360181 United States 03/27/2013 09:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course the earth is not "halted" - it never orbited the sun to begin with. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34325181 Wrong. The planets are not trailing behind the sun in a "vortex" and the motion of the solar system through the galaxy is not at a right angle to our orbital motion around the sun. The solar apex, our solar system's direction of travel projected onto the sky has the coordinates of about 18hr RA, +30 degrees Dec ( [link to books.google.com] ) whereas our north ecliptic pole has coordinates of about 18hr RA, +66.5 degrees Dec. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Therefore, our planet is at some points in its orbit "ahead" of the sun in the sun's direction of travel through the galaxy, specifically this condition is at its peak when the sun's position along the ecliptic in our sky is at 6hr RA, in other words, at the June solstice. |
MoreAboutTunnelVision User ID: 36944354 Germany 03/27/2013 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to poleshift.ning.com] Comment by ann s. 1 hour ago Quoting: Ann S: paid ZetaShill from the PoleShill-NingOnce again some shill at GLP is putting words in my mouth, so to speak. It is clear in my below comment that I never said I am personally trolling them or anyone else, yet that is the claim? See how desperate they are to bash not only ZetaTalk but the PS ning? PS-Ning-Mode ON: You are trolling others aren't you? After all you are paid not to understand or argue but to blindly parrot Nancy's BS... Paid not to present any proof and accuse others of being paid! Paid shill! And I know why they spend so much time "debunking" the PS Ning: Certain searches (not Planet X of course) reveal that a ning with a few hundred members must have a fantastic readership. There is no way on earth the PS ning could be in the top search results if so few people are reading the ning as the paid shills claim. Case closed. Quoting: Ann S: paid ZetaShill from the PoleShill-Ningheh! Funny how quickly you wanted that case closed, too bad I was a moderator and exactly know who is responsible for pinging the PS-blogs to popular search engines.. I mean I even programmed a script to automatically ping every latest 20 blogs back then if your computer specialist among the mods is still running it on his servers... You're not really familiar with these matters, are you? The PaidShill-Ning had plenty of readers... but that was the past obviously and those search engines picked them up back then already. Now you can close the case, Mrs wannabe important. btw: you still need to get rid of that pesky confirmation-bias Life is short, precursor disasters and the pole shift are coming, and time is precious. So I am not going to waste time trying to convince people who are paid not to understand and paid to LIE as they quite clearly do. But I am also never going to give in to the veiled threats at the paid debunker thread and stop supporting those who are doing the right thing, working to lessen the cover up of Planet X/Nibiru. Quoting: Ann S: paid ZetaShill from the PoleShill-NingWell, I don't think you have to argue to convince the debunkers, but you have to present proof or something more solid for ALL OTHERS WHO READ THE THREAD... Many people may not be so naive as those Ningsters, accordingly, who do you think will they tend towards? Those who just accuse the others of being paid shills, or those who actually present something? Think Ann, think! The Law of Karma will deal with everyone who is willfully, deliberately, and for some with malice continuing to keep the truth about Planet X/Nibiru from the public. My conscience is clear, which is something none of the paid shills who operate anywhere on the internet can honestly claim. Quoting: Ann S: paid ZetaShill from the PoleShill-NingYes, Karma will get you and reality will be the egg on your face.. I (seriously) have no doubt about this. 10 years from now and you'll be still waiting... Wouldnt you consider that egg your face, or a fail on your part? Thats ok after all... bad mistakes happen. And your conscience is only clear because of the fact that you're not even aware that you bought into a huge pack of lies and are misleading people... Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 03/27/2013 10:06 AM "People hate the truth, luckily the truth doesn't care." Author of "Zeta Talk exposed": [link to novnet.org] |
Menow User ID: 1394150 United States 03/27/2013 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course the earth is not "halted" - it never orbited the sun to begin with. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34325181 :stupidstrong: :zwrong2: Wrong. The planets are not trailing behind the sun in a "vortex" and the motion of the solar system through the galaxy is not at a right angle to our orbital motion around the sun. The solar apex, our solar system's direction of travel projected onto the sky has the coordinates of about 18hr RA, +30 degrees Dec ( [link to books.google.com] ) whereas our north ecliptic pole has coordinates of about 18hr RA, +66.5 degrees Dec. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Therefore, our planet is at some points in its orbit "ahead" of the sun in the sun's direction of travel through the galaxy, specifically this condition is at its peak when the sun's position along the ecliptic in our sky is at 6hr RA, in other words, at the June solstice. Some guy on Youboob was trying to tell me about this "new model of the solar system" where the planets have spiral orbits. This is apparently what he was talking about. These people glom onto whatever new gobbldygook/pseudoscience comes down the pike. They just NEED to think that they are on the cutting edge of discovery, somehow. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36965377 United States 03/27/2013 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You people are obsessed with Nancy! Holy crap! This is "supposed" to be a "debunker thread" but all you guys talk about is Nancy! You know there's other things out there to debunk! More like.. "Nancy debunker LIVE chat 24/7 - obsessed Nancy debunker's paradise!" |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 33360181 United States 03/27/2013 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wrong. The planets are not trailing behind the sun in a "vortex" and the motion of the solar system through the galaxy is not at a right angle to our orbital motion around the sun. The solar apex, our solar system's direction of travel projected onto the sky has the coordinates of about 18hr RA, +30 degrees Dec ( [link to books.google.com] ) whereas our north ecliptic pole has coordinates of about 18hr RA, +66.5 degrees Dec. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Therefore, our planet is at some points in its orbit "ahead" of the sun in the sun's direction of travel through the galaxy, specifically this condition is at its peak when the sun's position along the ecliptic in our sky is at 6hr RA, in other words, at the June solstice. Some guy on Youboob was trying to tell me about this "new model of the solar system" where the planets have spiral orbits. This is apparently what he was talking about. These people glom onto whatever new gobbldygook/pseudoscience comes down the pike. They just NEED to think that they are on the cutting edge of discovery, somehow. Yup! The sad reality is that they don't understand the motion of the planets and solar system so it comes as a shock to them when they see a poorly done/incorrect illustration of the solar system's motion relative to the galaxy and they don't even realize that it is poorly done and incorrect. They don't understand reference frames at all and they desperately want to believe that those science classes they failed out of in school were fundamentally wrong. Like you said, they glom onto anything they can find that claims to be "revolutionary," even though they don't understand the thing it claims to contradict, in this case the heliocentric model of the solar system. Don't even try to tell them about barycentric coordinates or calculating the apparent "orbit" of the sun in a geocentric reference frame. |