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Well done on not even reading the last post before you. It debunks your premise.

Last Edited by Astromut on 03/27/2013 10:27 AM

ZetaTalk is a debunkers paradise, highly irrational and highly misleading - its legit then to bring it up.

However if you are so concerned about other stuff to be debunked, you are invited to send them our way!

(If you expect that we just leave Nancy alone I have to disappoint you)

He was sent with the regular talking points memo, don't expect anything original from him. He doesn't seem capable of independent thought, which is why he posted what he did right in the middle of a discussion debunking something which had nothing to do with Nancy.

Because this thread was started to debunk Nancy. Simple as that. We were routinely censored on her "live chat" threads and started this one to prove that her threads would die without our participation, and to have a place to counter her nonsense without getting banned. It started out being about debunking Nancy and to this day it is a place where people can learn the other side of her story if they so choose. We don't make anyone read here. Others have been debunked here too, not just Nancy.

[link to poleshift.ning.com]


Comment by ann s. 2 hours ago
Once again some shill at GLP is putting words in my mouth, so to speak. It is clear in my below comment that I never said I am personally trolling them or anyone else, yet that is the claim? See how desperate they are to bash not only ZetaTalk but the PS ning?

>> Huh? Nobody specifically said that you were "trolling" here. On the other hand, you didn't say what you mean by "trolling" in the first place. You just said that ordinary people stop posting when somebody 'trolls them', which makes no sense.

And I know why they spend so much time "debunking" the PS Ning: Certain searches (not Planet X of course) reveal that a ning with a few hundred members must have a fantastic readership. There is no way on earth the PS ning could be in the top search results if so few people are reading the ning as the paid shills claim. Case closed.

Your declaring "case closed" means nothing to anyone but you. It has been recently proved just how easy it is to created false views on the ning. Search results do NOT necessarily equate to views- it's just the current straw you found to grasp.

Life is short, precursor disasters and the pole shift are coming, and time is precious. So I am not going to waste time trying to convince people who are paid not to understand and paid to LIE as they quite clearly do.

Sorry, Ann, but there is no "Nibiru" hanging out near the sun and about to cause a pole shift on Earth. Those are lies of Zetatalk.


But I am also never going to give in to the veiled threats at the paid debunker thread and stop supporting those who are doing the right thing, working to lessen the cover up of Planet X/Nibiru.


"Threats"? WHAT threats? No one threatened you, dear- it's just your paranoia taking over your rational mind- again.

The Law of Karma will deal with everyone who is willfully, deliberately, and for some with malice continuing to keep the truth about Planet X/Nibiru from the public.

Umm... well, that would be "Zetas" who are allegedly altering Earth's orientation in space to INTENTIONALLY hide the supposed effects of Nancy's planet.

My conscience is clear, which is something none of the paid shills who operate anywhere on the internet can honestly claim.

Oh, I know you believe what you are saying, so you conscience may be clear. However, you are woefully deluded in what you believe.

Right...
I suspected he either feels uncomfortable just by the fact that some spent part of their time to debunk false claims (lazy ass type),

or he's a ZetaShill and just wants to be left alone waiting for his announcement..(ever-waiting type)

Maybe a combination of both because you would assume that he'd look these people up to see that they're debunking all kinds of things and not just Nancy.



Ditto.
Also, if you are so worried about our time spent, why don't YOU start debunking some of the BS around?

We are generally focused on the "Nibiru" hoax, of which Nancy Lieder is the central player.

Would you like to go back and read the first post ?

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Comment by ann s. 3 hours ago
Certain searches (not Planet X of course) reveal that a ning with a few hundred members must have a fantastic readership. There is no way on earth the PS ning could be in the top search results if so few people are reading the ning as the paid shills claim. Case closed.

"Certain searches" will bring up YOUR post from today as the top result. Does that mean a large number of people have read it? Of course not. Ann- you're an idiot.

You appear to be missing one salient point...that there is no debate on the PSN. This begs the question *why?*. Surely, if everything that Nancy says is true and verifiable, then discussion would be welcomed as proof of her statements would be readily available to convince the questioners. But there is no proof is there? Not a scrap. Just steaming heaps of pure bullshit with nothing evidential to back up her wild claims.
Here discussion is welcomed. Go figure.
:ita:

Ten years ago Nancy was saying that time was short and that the pole shift would happen in 2003.

You're concerned about lying? THAT WAS A LIE. By Nancy and the "Zeta's" own admission.

If the Zetas existed they would be completely untrustworthy entities that are tricking mankind, concealing the effects of the alleged PX that would show the truth to the world and giving Nancy one false prediction after another for the last 18 years.

You seem pretty sure of yourself. A LOT of smart people would beg to differ.

That white lie was explained in great detail on Zetatalk: [link to www.zetatalk.com] for example.

LMFAO! Yes, I'm quite "sure of myself," that's not a bad thing. It's called being informed and intelligent. I'm well versed in celestial mechanics and the motion of the solar system. I do not claim to be the smartest, but of those who know more about it than me I have yet to see any of them suggest that the solar apex and ecliptic pole coincide with each other.

Whether you consider our direction of travel relative to the local stars in our galaxy (the solar apex) or even if you consider the motion of the local standard of rest within the arms of our galaxy ( [link to www.gb.nrao.edu] ) we are still not moving towards the ecliptic pole and we are still ahead of our sun at certain times of the year (in the latter case the vector of our direction of travel points to about 20h 57m, +47d 53' which is separated from our ecliptic pole by about 30 degrees and places us ahead of the sun relative to its direction of travel in August).

Last Edited by Astromut on 03/27/2013 01:49 PM

"I’ve been getting lots of tweets and email from folks linking to a slick-looking video, a computer animation showing the motion of the planets around the Sun as the Sun orbits around the Milky Way Galaxy. It’s a very pretty video with compelling music and well-done graphics.

However, there’s a problem with it: It’s wrong. And not just superficially; it’s deeply wrong, based on a very wrong premise."

[link to www.slate.com]

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And the same day as the "lie" the military held "operation planet x"... The same exact day!

[link to www.globalsecurity.org]

Now why would they do that?
To screw with the minds of the sheeple and give us a hint!

A good summary: [link to www.zetatalk.com] and another good info about those who jumped on the bandwaggon -> [link to www.zetatalk.com]

A precise cut in the throat of those who wanted a bit of that cookie.

Nancy has been wrong a lot but it seems like theres some agenda we don't know about.
Then again, Operation Planet X on the day she gave?
All the "booms" increasing, the crazy FEMA plans and bullets being stocked.
Something is going on dude, something much much deeper.

I'm not on Nancys side nor am I a hater but shit is really weird, thats what I see.

I can't get over "operation planet x".

Yes, and that disclaimer of Nancy's requires that we believe the government and NASA and the world's astronomers couldn't locate and track a large planet right in the solar system and were reduced to reading Zetatalk to get that information. The very idea is ludecrous, but you believe it anyway! Hilarious!

A "hint"? If the "Zetas" are so against the coverup, then why are they supposedly screwing around with Earth's motions to keep it from being obvious that Earth is halted in orbit by PX?

Some ineresting info about the alien presence:

[link to vault.fbi.gov]

Source: [link to poleshift.ning.com] -> User J A.

Obviously someone in the military had a sense of humor.


Bottom line is that Nancy can spin it however she wants but a lie is a lie no matter what you want to call it.

If alleged entities would lie about something that big and continue to give false prediction after false prediction for ten years after only fools would believe anything they "say" now.

Before 2003 Nancy constantly said that all sources of information should be judged against her "100 percent" track record of accuracy.

Done and done.

Look- nobody here is going to read your spam if you refuse to discuss the details of it, so stop shotgunning it in here.

Thank you for your answer, Menow. I thought it was interesting to read something about the alien presence since it is somehow connected to what Nancy's claims are. Following what you just said I am assuming now that you are the representative of "nobody".

The UFO phenomenon has no relevance to the ZetaTalk discussion one way or another. Unexplained UFO reports prove nothing about ZetaTalk.

That said, the document you link to does have an explanation:


[link to cosmiclog.nbcnews.com]

"There's an alternate explanation for the Hottel memo that makes a lot more sense. Two years ago, when the memo was added to the Vault, paranormal investigator Ben Radford noted that the informant's story matched the description of a UFO hoax that was concocted by a man named Silas Newton. In 1950, Newton was telling tales about flying saucers that had crashed at a radar station near the Arizona-New Mexico border. Newton was later convicted on fraud charges, and died in 1972."

See, there is a possible explanation on your mentioned site but now everybody reading this can make up their mind on their own. Sharing is knowing. Thank you for the link.

And you are the representative of whom? By the way, as I suggested, I didn't read your spam, which was the links you tossed out. I have a question pending to you above. Care to answer it?

I agree. So why does Nancy not allow such sharing on her ning?

That's hilarious!

Hilariously wrong.



As long as it doesn't require any actual intellectual effort of course.

No. As I said, no more dancing. Read with an open heart, that'll help you in widening your perspective. Don't forget to disconnect emotionally from Nancy and Zetatalk, it helps you.