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I'm here to read your explanation. Simple. Could you furnish me with the knowledge as to why Nancy instructed her followers to murder their pets based on the unsubstantiated premise of disaster and also murdered her own dog? Both my dog and I are eager for your reply, forgive our impatience but this is a matter not easily forgiven.

Why don't you ask Nancy about her motives or instructions directly?

I did that! And as I`m very nice I asked for a membership at the poleshift.ning.com.

Today! So this should get a wonderful friendship.

Perhaps you can answer us our questions there, as you seem to be a little bit blind sometimes here ...

ZetaTalk: Element of Doubt
Note: written by Jul 15, 1995
[link to www.zetatalk.com] -> explains it, also containing an update Note: below added during the Sep 7, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

Your statement:


does not stand up to a test.

Where does it stop? I love my granddaughter more than my dog, but she wouldn't survive your insane scenario - she would suffer; so do I murder her too? And my daughter...what about her? Is the instruction to kill pets that may suffer or anyone who may suffer. Why just animals? That one instruction was a zeta suicide note that no amount of back pedalling is going to undo.

Because you can't eat your daughter and granddaughter but according to Nancy "a dog makes a great meal".

skitten

No, not serious.


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ZetaTalk: Element of Doubt
Note: written by Jul 15, 1995
[link to www.zetatalk.com] -> explains it, also containing an update Note: below added during the Sep 7, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

ZetaTalk Accuracy is designed to allow the populace to discern truth in a message, vs newcomers to the scene who want the stage but invent the message. This does not prove that aliens are real, as Nancy could be getting the message from the government, be a front for release of this information, deniable where a straight-forward government source would not be deniable. Thus, the Element of Doubt is maintained.

Big difference here. She is still claiming 100% accuracy for the ZetaTalk message at this point. The "element of doubt" only applied to what the actual source of the accurate information might be. The "element of doubt" as to the accuracy of what the "Zetas" say never came into play until after 2003.

At no point did she ever say, for example, that 2003 might or might not be the date. She didn't start hedging her bets that way until after the big prophecy failed. Otherwise there would have been no need for the elaborate "White Lie" rationalization.

Why don't you ask Nancy about her motives or instructions directly?

Strange, I thought that pole shit had advised their gullible idiots, sorry, members, not to post on this thread. Could it be because they might begin to see through the lies?

Why don't you ask Nancy about her motives or instructions directly?

Big difference here. She is still claiming 100% accuracy for the ZetaTalk message at this point. The "element of doubt" only applied to what the actual source of the accurate information might be. The "element of doubt" as to the accuracy of what the "Zetas" say never came into play until after 2003.

At no point did she ever say, for example, that 2003 might or might not be the date. She didn't start hedging her bets that way until after the big prophecy failed. Otherwise there would have been no need for the elaborate "White Lie" rationalization.

Why don't you ask Nancy about her motives or instructions directly?

Hmmm...a possibility and Ann is helping Nancy to persuade them not to come here by posting her rants.

- in fact, there's ZetaTalk where the "Zetas" clearly state that they had given the dates out because the U.S. and Indonesian governments would no longer succeed with their plans thanks to Nancy's efforts in getting the word out. They also stated they had no problem with being precise about the date - May 27, 2003.

I'm here to read your explanation. Simple. Could you furnish me with the knowledge as to why Nancy instructed her followers to murder their pets based on the unsubstantiated premise of disaster and also murdered her own dog? Both my dog and I are eager for your reply, forgive our impatience but this is a matter not easily forgiven.

I'm still waiting.....

CALLER: Why did you kill your dog?

NANCY: Actually, ZetaTalk has been the subject of a great disinformation campaign, a hate campaign, every since it emerged in 1995 people have either loved it or hated it, and that's run about 50/50, my email runs like that. And there's been many organized campaigns to try to discredit ZetaTalk. It has an extremely high accuracy track record. This is one of the reasons for its success. I have never spammed email, gone out and promoted myself, called up and said 'oh please, please, have me on your show'. It has come to me. This is a bit astonishing because it is know around the world, there are very few countries I don't get email from. I hear that I've appeared in magazines in Australia or Germany. All that translation on my website is done by volunteers. This is because people say it has the ring of truth, brings things together, gives explanations to puzzles, and is so logical. So therefore, it's highly popular. It is giving out a message that the establishment, the people who are the bankers, the heads of government, organized religion, don't want you to hear. That we are going to have cataclysmic changes in our near future. That the governments know about this and are not informing you. That the alien presence is real and this is not something you need to fear and here's how you work with it, you are in control. These are messages they don't want out, so therefore there's a campaign to smear me, and smear ZetaTalk. One of them is the silliest thing.

I had a German Shepherd pup that I put to sleep at 18 months at the advice of the vet because he had been under socialized in the kennel and he was likely to attack people. He was already diving through windows when children rode by on their bikes. We were terrified he was going to bite a child. Someone asked me on live radio what the Zetas recommendation would be for people who had pets going into a pole shift. Starvation is expected to be rampant. 90% of the population is expected to die, not just from starvation, from injury, illness, depression, but starvation will be rampant. And their answer was, how are you going to feed that pet when your neighbor's child is starving? So our recommendation is, when you see the pole shift coming, and its imminent and there's no question, take it to the vet and put it to sleep. It's painless. Otherwise you're going to be starving your pet, if that's your choice, fine. And that got twisted around to Nancy Lieder the puppy killer. I kid you not, and that's my answer. It is a serious problem, and particularly with dogs, and that's not the reason we put this dog to sleep. He slept with us and ate at our table and sat on my lap, all 120 lbs of him, and watched TV, and we cried and he died in my arms, but he was going to bite somebody and probably a child and we just couldn't have it.

Hmmm...a possibility and Ann is helping Nancy to persuade them not to come here by posting her rants.

I just found the perfect summary for you and many more who are reading this forum regularly -> [link to www.zetatalk.com] and an Excerpt for your specific question.

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

[link to www.youtube.com]

Listen to the actual interview and make up your mind yourself- does what she says in her excerpt bear any resemblance to what she actually says in that recorded interview???

well?