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Message Subject Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!!
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The intentions of Masters seem to be honest here. And he sums it up well. He wants to give good-hearted people a warning of Nancy`s cult. He compares Nancy`s talk with the verbiage of a cult leader.

Masters looks very concerned about Nancy`s latest attacks. She is even damning people. He seems to think that Lieder is a very dangerous individual and gives the advice to stay far away from her.
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The funny thing is that Lieder accuses Masters of depicting lenseflares. Her own page consists of lenseflares.
 Quoting: Will 36498812



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I guess Masters realized that Nancy is running amok at the moment, bet he wanted to give people a warning before it is too late

Well investigated piece of work of Marshal. Is interesting how dramatically Nancy changed her story bout 2003 within the years.

Bad for Nancy Marshal is wiping the floor with her and her lies. +1000, +1000
 Quoting: Pathak User ID:37294780


There is nothing "honest" about Masters, IMO, and he obviously is "very concerned about Nancy's latest attacks."
She is warning off his potential customers and he is fighting back.
i.e. - kOOkfight.

Before this attack he was pretty friendly with Lieder and seemed completely unconcerned with her virulent attacks on rational scientists and individuals.
Considering he has an history of the same kooky behaviour this should come as no surprise.
Now that his ox is being gored he's gone all "debunker" on her in self interest.
I consider him to be just as vile as Lieder and his history would back me up.

Here's a small example of the benovolent Mr. Masters from 2001:
[link to tech.groups.yahoo.com]
This stems from one of his well known hoaxes of the past wherein he and his idiotic minions developed the fantasy that comet 76P would/had knocked Phobos out of its orbit into a collision course with earth.
He had been a writer for TMG but had recently started his YOWUSA site so he was doing a lot of cross-publishing of his lunacy.
His "physicist" partner, Jacko van der Twerp, had even done the (farcical) "calculations" demonstrating the coming DOOM!!!!!!!!

As you can see, they then did the tried-and-true method of druimming up interest in their loondrool --- spamming BBs and newsgroups.
Ol' Marsh was upset that scientists laughed at and ignored him, or worse, scathingly debunked him.
'How dare they!'
Well, when you're a notorious TMG net-kook the best you can hope for is that they take your screeds and toss them into the circular file - /dev/null.
If you push it they will tell you just how big an ignoramus you are.
Don't kid yourself, his modus operandi and demeanor is the same as Nancy's and he has an history of kOOkery almost as long as Lieder's.

This is purely self-interest of the monetary kind.
Mustn't tolerate a threat to page-hits, clicks, and sales.
As I said, they're after the same demographic... the terminally credulous ignoramus and the insane.

And I note neither of you have more than 2 posts in the last year...
You don't happen to be Marshall Masters shills, are you?
If not I apologize for my being suspicious.


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Masters has some good points in the video, especially the one about the white lie vs Nancy telling people that once a lie is told people shouldn't believe anything. Still, Masters isn't exactly a paragon of truth and rationality. Kook fight indeed!
 Quoting: AC10422385 AKA: KIR


Exactly KIR, but see my above statement. MM is no better than Lieder and in some ways worse.
Ninny never tried to make a business out of ZetaTalk even though she wasn't above grubbing for a few tens of thousands of $$ per year.
IMO, MM is much more demented and cynical in that he will originate, develop, and disseminate an hoax, frightening the gullible, with the primary purpose of generating income.


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