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Apparently, Nancy Lieder is advertising a cottage for rent in her home town of North Freedom, WI. This would be the very same cottage located on her "survival" property which she has used funds from her non-profit corporation Troubled Times, Inc. to renovate in recent years. From the advertisement she is "Asking $300/month, utilities included, April/October; additional in cold months."
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Guest Cottage
The Board allocated $400 for supplies and tools to repair a cottage at the headquarters site which is available to be used as a guest cottage. Additional repairs are needed, though the cottage is operational and housed a guest working on headquarters cleanup during the summer of 1999.
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Family Garden
An old garden site, neglected for decades, required extensive preparation before a garden could be planted in 1999. The Board designated $725 during 1999 to cover equipment and supplies.

The garden, tended by Ron Darby, produced spectacular 15' high seed corn as well as sweet corn and several varieties of beans and squash. Seed for the Seed TEAM was collected.
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The President is pleased to announce that the $10,000 gift anticipated from her film producer, Nicholas, has been received. This gift was not designated, except for a comment that it should help with the contractors in getting the headquarters cleaned up and upgraded. In fact, the check was made out to Nancy Lieder of ZetaTalk,
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(Nancy) The site has 15+ acres, spring fed pond with watercress, and could be a demo for bermed structures, windmills, hyroponics, houseboats, fresh water shrimp and fish tanks, etc.
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Not forgetting the guest house.
Thousands of dollars spent in upgrading, rewiring, hydroponics, aquaculture, not to mention the thousands of hours put into your "home" improvements by others.

Now that all this comes up it's suddenly a " run-down drafty old farmhouse", funny that!

July 29, 2001
(Nancy) The Julia Dula Foundation is not a dead issue, you know, as I heard from Nicholas and he stated as much.
(Nancy) Last year they donated $25,000.
(Nancy) And, I heard from their lawyers aplenty re sending documentation to them.


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1/9/00 1 00:48 PM,Nancy,Will the meeting come to order, lacking a quorum by 1 member.
1/9/00 1 00:53 PM,Clipper,Helena is standing by
1/9/00 1 01:07 PM,Nancy,I stand corrected, we have a quorum.
1/9/00 1 01:27 PM,Gerard,okay no need to make the phone call to Michel :)
1/9/00 1 01:34 PM,Nancy,The 1st item on the agenda is acceptance of the anonymous gift of $16,800 - fee. More than anticipated.
1/9/00 1 02:22 PM,Nancy,The gift was qualified, as noted in the Agenda, so acceptance means we are agreeing to fund hydoponics with aquaculture, and the radio stuff. Extra funds left over need to be clarified, as noted.
1/9/00 1 02:55 PM,Gerard,For what I read we should accept it...
1/9/00 1 03:02 PM,Roger,I move that we accept the $16,800 grant as noted in the agenda.


1/9/00 1:36:52 PM,Ron,We will also need to buy lights for the hydroponics.
1/9/00 1:37:48 PM,Ron,Plan is to use florescent so shouldn't cost very much.
1/9/00 1:38:43 PM,Nancy,Ron mentioned that we have $19,695 in the checking. We are holding $2,000 as I recall, for the White's donation toward bermed hut with metal roof. We also are holding $150 or so lumber for the worm beds. If I add all this together, comes to $19,945, right?
1/9/00 1:39:58 PM,Nancy,I think the $1,200 for hydroponics includes about $300 for lights, as the 6x6 unit was $849 or some such. We're covered, I think.
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:Nancy_coff:


Does it still work ?

just checking

And that is why she is all over the debunker thread trying to save face and keep the money rolling in. Look at the size of some of those donations, and they are the ones we know about.
I wonder how those who helped renovate the cottage feel about her renting it out.

TT is the only charity listed in the IRS database. There are no others associated with zetatalk, Nancy Lieder, or troubled times.

You're beating a dead horse over this.

NOTICE TO PLANET X/ZETATALK PAID SHILLS:

Sorry, but your paychecks will be coming to an end. Due to the sequester and the decisions of those who hire you, your job as shills who pose as ordinary type folks will be ending.

But please, shills, do NOT suddenly stop posting using your assigned screen names. If you do that it will prove that you are paid shills and that is not a good thing for the shilling industry.

It is bad enough that one of the paid shills posted shilling directions accidentally on a Sandy Hook thread. Please do NOT make matters worse by suddenly disappearing. You are being given enough notice and severance that you should be able to find a real job.

Good luck with your job search.

Thanks for your SHILLING! The cover up of Planet X and Zetatalk appreciate your efforts even if you are just paid liars!

Seeing as how I'm not a "paid shill," your message does not apply. In fact I seriously doubt it applies to anyone here.

Please recall the paid shill directions that one of you POSTED on GLP.

If you are being accused of being "ever present" that is a sign you are a paid shill. So please wait a few minutes before responding to those who know Planet X and Zetatalk are real. When you post immediately you reveal you are EVER PRESENT and regular people have jobs, lives, go to school, etc. and are not ever present. Only paid shills hang around the debunker thread and post fast, so please do not make the mistake Astromut/Dr. Astro just did and respond really, really fast. We are begging you: Please get with the program in the time that is left on your contracts.

Another thread has identified Dr. Astro as Phil Plait. This is an example of a shilling so much and so often that a GLP reader has come to that conclusion. Not good! Please be much more careful with your posts as to not reveal you are paid to debunk. OKAY?

Speaking of Phil Plait: Could his articles at slate be MORE boring? Please do not follow Phil's example and bore readers nearly to death.

Mix up your posts! Do not just ridicule truther seekers and truth tellers. By doing that too often you reveal you are shilling.

As the shill who messed up and posted shilling directions at GLP showed: If you identify certain people as leaders you are revealing you are a shill. Mix it up, guys! Do not just concentrate on one or two people. Hit more of those who know the truth about Planet X and are not too scared of shills to post about it. Get more names in there!

Please do not worry about Phil Plait. He is a special case and money will be found to continue supporting his debunking. The rest of you are going to have to find jobs. Sorry! There is only such much money those who was Planet X to be covered up will donate and the sequester too.

That's life, shills.

You used the word shill 8 times.
Ann?




Then stop complaining if this people continue to expose her BS for what it is.


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Here them come.
Walking down the shill street.
Telling all who will waste time,
Planet X is just shi-a-t.

Hey, hey, we're the debunkers.
People pay us to shill.
People are on to us now,
But that won't stop our crimes.

(Sung to the Monkeys tune.)

Who is Ann? Have you got an IP address on her with her names? Then how can you say that about someone?

You may not be a paid shill, traitor, but we DO expect you to behave like one.

Funny how you responded so quickly, traitor.

After I just explained that the shill supervisors have instructed NOT to respond so very quickly!

[link to dropline.net]

Sad day for shills.

Getting those pink slips.

We do apologize for leading you on, telling you that your shilling would last until the cover up must end when all can see Planet X themselves.

But money does not grow on trees! Rich people and governments have to fork over some bucks for your pay.

And those bucks are ending.

C'est la vie (that is French for the shills who dropped out of college).

drumroll....



Hi Ann! Now I am certain! LMAO!!!



Yeah, I just took a peek and left a comment...
I don't care what others think about my timing btw.. ;P



Of course people take you very serious here...
since you present an abundance of proof to underline your arguments...
Duh.

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Hey Ann, weren't you supposed to be banned btw??






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What's the right response time to your shill posts?

2 minutes?
5 minutes?
15 minutes?
1 hour?

I guess "soon" would be ok for Poleshit-Nancy and Ann S(tupid) - You know: "soon" in ZetaTalk = "never"

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Lol, what a fool posting bs thinking any shill activity taking place here when it's so obvious it's happening all time at the Ning, only truth here. if any thing they should be ashamed taking money donations from people for event that will never happen (planetx). That's not right at all then using the money for personal agenda, imagine renovate the cottage to rent it, off gains of gulible members.

No, it's a sign someone is a dickhead with confirmation bias who wishes you weren't around so much.

Again, all you're doing is trying to get people like me to shut up. This has the opposite effect. If you "know" Zetatalk is real, then why isn't the earth halted in its orbit?

No, I reveal that I happened to see your post and responded to it immediately. That does not mean I am 'ever present,' all it means is that I was present when you made your post. I have a job, and it's not this.

Why? Because you say so? Oh, no, because your cult says so, that's why. Right? Well it's a no true scotsman fallacy. No true normal person would respond fast to a post on the debunker thread? There is no sane reason to automatically assume that to be the case.

I just did it again. Guess what it proves? Nothing except that you and I happened to be on at the same time. Are you a paid shill for Nancy? No? Then it's not proof that I'm a paid shill against Nancy.

LOL! Link please, should be hilarious.

No, it's an example of someone being so butthurt over my debunkings that they start projecting a major figure they hate for the same reason onto my identity. They think they're so important that it must be Phil Plait himself out to disprove them.

Cart before the horse. Prove I'm paid to debunk.

Well seeing as the people I debunk are not telling the truth, I am not ridiculing truth seekers and tellers, I am exposing bunk. That does not mean I am "shilling."

What is with this Zetatard delusion that I am concentrating on just Nancy? That is demonstrably false. I don't concentrate on anyone in particular, I debunk all kinds of astronomy kooks. Even in this thread I talk about others with similar kookiness that I'm debunking, so are you blind or what?
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
It seems like you believe whatever your cult tells you to believe about me, even when facts contradicting it are staring you in the face. Classic sign of a brainwashed cultist.

Oops, getting a bit teasy? I suppose it must get wearisome for you, all the purporting of lies and pet murdering. If the best argument that you can come up with is unfounded & untrue accusations I feel sorry for you. It must be hard defending the indefensible.

Astromut/Dr. Astro

What gives?

You informed GLP readers that you had to stop posting due to death threats.

But you are posting away.

So what happened?

Did those death threats disappear or were they not real to begin with?

Or maybe you make promises and don't keep them?

Are you are you not Phil Plait as someone surmises?

If you are, please start writing some interesting articles for Slate. Phil's articles are so boring! And he seems to think the reading public actually cares about him, what he is doing, how things are in Boulder. Just count the number of times "I" comes up in his articles to see what I mean.

Please, shills, your posts are getting so shrill on here that you are showing you are scared about your paychecks! Worrying about your own income is a sign of a shill, and we cannot have that, not here, not the one place where shills can post and keep dissenters away.

Please provide the first, middle, and last name of this "Ann" you are so concerned about. An IP address would also be helpful so we can trace back to where she lives.

Otherwise, all you are doing by carping about this one person is proving that you are paid shills. Paid shills have a bad enough reputation as is, what with one messing up so big on GLP recently.

Please change your behavior up, even a little will help.

There are lots of other people who know Planet X is real besides Ann, don't you think. So why are you stuck on that one person? This really does not make sense unless she is a "leader" and then please, keep on harping and shilling so that everyone realizes "Ann" must matter enough to trash talk her.

Ann you do use the word shill an awful lot.

I did stop posting for a period of time, and in that time I took steps to ensure my safety. This included making arrangements so that I never leave the house unarmed ever again as well as resuming regular practice with my firearm.

So go ahead if you're feeling froggy. I'm now prepared.

Neither. They were real and they have not disappeared. But now I am prepared to respond with lethal force wherever I go, and I do not go places that would prohibit me from doing so.

Awww, poor little zeta cultie wishes I would quit posting and thought it was a personal promise to him or her for me to leave them alone. Bad news there pal, it wasn't a promise to you to leave you alone, it was a decision I made for my own protection. It's really sick that you took the result of a death threat as a personal promise to leave you alone. Well, that's not what it was about, it was about protecting myself which is something I am now much better equipped to do. If someone wants to try to kill me they will now be facing someone who can and will present a lethal force response.

No, I'm not Phil Plait, but I still want to see the link to the thread claiming I am. Was there or wasn't there a thread about it?

Wow, quite the non-sequitur there. Why the hell would we even have her full name and IP address? That makes no sense whatsoever.

Are you blind? Yes or no? If no, why do you keep saying something that is demonstrably untrue?
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

How strange, ac142, that your efforts to discredit focus on those with the wherewithal to completely disprove the existence of a planet x within our solar system & that earth hasn't been halted in it's orbit for the last 10 years. Ipso facto completely demolishing the tower of lies which is the pole shit ning.

I bet you stayed up all night coming up with that one. Don't give up your day job, because it stinks. Doesn't even rhyme or fit the tune. If you put that much effort into putting forth some argument and evidence to support the claims of your LIEder, we might even be able to have a discussion about it. If you had any proof, you might even be able to convince us we are wrong. But since 2003, none of you have tried to do that. You obviously have nothing but the paid shill argument and personal insults.

Hey, Ann, I've written something for you!

Shall I compare thee to a Doris Day?
Thou art less lovely and more temperamental.

Well, you started it with the silly song........

Ann, Ann, Ann.

What is it with "Ann" and the paid debunkers?

Cannot get enough of her OR are you instructed to concentrate on bashing her because she is a "leader?" (Yes, I got that out of the paid shill directions that are NOT being discussed on this thread because a paid shill did get caught in action and posted those directions. "Leaders" are to be identified!)

Do you dream about Ann?
Do you see visions of Ann before your open eyes?
Do you find yourself thinking about Ann many times each day?

If the answer is yes to any of the above questions seek help immediately because you have ANN ON THE BRAIN syndrome.

There is help for this new syndomre: Quit shilling!

And "Elemental": There is no doubt now that you are a paid shill.

The paid shills cannot help but reveal that is what they are, over and over again.

I only hope that it is only males with ANN ON THE BRAIN syndrome because Ann is probably female!