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I doubt that Nancy Liar will appear live in this third-class show. They probably will add her as a funny factor via skype or a webcam. Stupid old cult leaders like Nancy LIEDer don`t like to travel or to face reality as it always contradicts their stupid theories.

Nobeeryou is and was a nogo. Everybody with some basic astronomic skills can easily explain you why the 2012-fools and some brainwashed cultist will always be waiting for nothing.

For 98 percent of the normal people with an addiction to conspiracy theories the Nobeeryou-saga more or less ended with 2012. The rest of the last few believers are mostly cultists or zealots who have lost every connection to reality.

When you are in a cult, your personality changes. You can see this clearly in the behavior of the weird kiwi idiot:
1.Fanaticism
2.Blind belief
3.More and more helpless quoting of weird conspiracy theories
4.Being brainwashed
5.Losing your mind
6.Giggling around and breaking down in helpless laughter in every second sentence
7.Madhouse
8.Running around with some old floppy disks and trying to make astronomic pictures with
9.Adding some gamma corrections to obviously crackbrained pics.

Here you see the classical career of a cultist until his final stage. Sometimes the symptoms can be a little bit different or become indistinct. So I doubt that a third-class Russian online-show will raise her popularity. Besides that she claimed in her last interview that this would be her last interview before the end of the world: classical cult failure of an old egocentric cult leader who is desperately looking for some attention of the gullible. So she was caught – like always – lying again.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

So in the end Nancy LIEDer only adds another funny story to her endless list of epic failures. And she was convicted of another lie, which definitely was no white lie.

Nobody implied it is a crime to defend Nancy, but if you can't stand critique this thread probably ain't the right place for you.

But why do you even care what others think? Even if you were defending her, it would be your very own decision to do so.



Want my honest opinion?
You seem to switch back and forth like an elastic spring.
One day you agree to the inconsistencies found, another day you come up with ZT to tell us where Nancy made a hit.

In my opinion, you are somewhere in between fully believing ZetaTalk or the whole thing being a hoax, while the whole battle goes on between your desires and reality back and forth.

What is holding you back?
Apparently, you've still not forgot what "causality" is, or at least you feel too insecure to solely relay upon your own interpretations (which is a positive sign btw).
Contrary, you seem to have those (all too familiar) bursts of desire to deal with the fascinating and uncommon - and so much of it rings true, so somehow it must be legit, right?
Nope!

I think what you need is sorting it out on your own. YOU need to go through some claims carefully, analyse them, and try to form an objective conclusion as far as possible.
This is a crucial point. You have to do it, because nobody of us or everyone else could ever be more convincing to you - than yourself (especially in this "hyperalerted" state of mind which Menow called "conspiracy-aspect").

If an Equation says 1 * 2 = 2398403002956290384, you will realize that is pretty unlikely to be true.
The equation surely won't be so obvious to you - unless you haven't done some work to lay it out.

Of course Nancy's claims are not math-equations but math is also just another abstract to describe relations between certain variables.

No break of the rules, unless you want to calculate stuff in the imaginary area.

At least in the reality that I live in now, there are no sudden breaks of "natural-laws" like Nancy wants to have her planet hidden in all physical manners, yet supposed to have physical impact on us.

You probably noticed Nancy often wants to have it in both ways:
- Earth is halted in its Orbit and Venus is off - Yet they are perfectly normal because they are "simulated" by the COW

- Earth is halted in its august-position, yet the stars indicate we're normally travelling on our path. (COW simulating the stars?)

- Sattelite images are being simulated - Yet they are used as proof whenever Poli finds new pixel-overloads.

- Ninnies 7/10 events are happening, yet invisible metal-boxes are preventing them from happening.

- PX supposed to hide next to the sun so nobody can go out now and make an image of it - yet alberto can find his flares every day.

You see, its pretty hard to have it both ways if you want to be consistent... BUT Nancy has an alternative for both ways!

Case A:
B: If you think we're halted and pX is real, you 1) have finally found the real cause of the problems and you don't need to deal with any conflict anymore because the COW is doing everything for you to be good 2) finally found the ultimate source of truth, Nancy Lieder, aka. Nancy Wiener aka. Zeta-fart to be your future (AND ONLY!) source of conclusion wether what is real and what is not - since if it doesn't correlate with your view it must be simulated or abberated by aliens 3) it would be appretiated if you lead more people towards the one and only source of conclusion, further contributing with your own money if you feel compelled to do, and if you ever change your mind about the Zeta-Reality - please silently gtfo without too much trouble and enjoy your next life on a waterworld.

Case B:

If you think we're not halted in our orbit or PX being a total hoax, it is because 1) the COW is simulating everything so you can't prove anyway 2) you are not considered mature enough to be allowed to see unsimulated reality 3) you are in deep denial and a paid debunker.


And now ask yourself if you really can afford to have it "both ways".



And I don't like geology. :)



That wasn't really much of a wise statement, was it?

Alien Disclosure is just another of those claims that Nancy hijacked to raise public support.
Don't be fooled by her false assignments.
What has she done for alien disclosure?
She has not even properly investigated one UFO case. All she does is jumping existing bandwagons, spin it a bit and clap herself on the shoulders per the Zetas.

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Oh not again..........

I just lost a long post about how conspiracy theories evolve and adapt to debunking. Suffice it to say that the theories evolve to the point where they are complex enough and have enough built-in excuses for the holes we point out in them, that they become impermeable to superficial examination by the ordinary person. If they are at all predisposed to belief in the conspiracy, they well never do the brain-work needed to see through the complexity which has developed in response to the debunking.

Nancy WINS!

WHAT she wins is the question...

What exactly did she win?

This
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That sure fits in.

All good points.

You see if it wasn't for the corroboration of whistle blowers such as Ann Eller and Robert Dean and contributions from Velikovsky and Sitchin and Hapgood and Harringtion I would have dismissed zetatalk long ago.

I've said before, I am very much on the fence, so I bring information here to run it through u lot.

Of course I get attacked and called a cult wierdo and all other sort of bullshit like from those complete freaks truther and the canadian ass hole starting with a V.

You guys take this shit way too serious if you ask me. Like, do you have jobs or do you work at glp you know?? It wasnt even zetatalk that I heard about the poleshift it was an Author with American Indian heritage who lives in Colorado, which got me looking into Edgar Cayce and wound up checking out zetatalk.

And please mate, don't judge me... Maybe you should change the name of your facebook page hey?? Isnt it "earth changes pole shift"??? Pretty much supporting earth changes??

Don't let all this negativity detract from the brother hood mankind should feel, it aint us vs them. Its just us.

Maybe you motherfuckers will get a dose of wake the fuck up one day, but until then enjoy your pitiful jobs at GLP, and remember it doesnt matter if the poles shift and 90% of the population dies... Because as my good friend, Macho Man, Randy Savage said.... The beat goes on!!

Btw, that thread vanished.

It was too stupid.....

All good points.

You see if it wasn't for the corroboration of whistle blowers such as Ann Eller and Robert Dean and contributions from Velikovsky and Sitchin and Hapgood and Harringtion I would have dismissed zetatalk long ago.

I've said before, I am very much on the fence, so I bring information here to run it through u lot.

Of course I get attacked and called a cult wierdo and all other sort of bullshit like from those complete freaks truther and the canadian ass hole starting with a V.

You guys take this shit way too serious if you ask me. Like, do you have jobs or do you work at glp you know?? It wasnt even zetatalk that I heard about the poleshift it was an Author with American Indian heritage who lives in Colorado, which got me looking into Edgar Cayce and wound up checking out zetatalk.

And please mate, don't judge me... Maybe you should change the name of your facebook page hey?? Isnt it "earth changes pole shift"??? Pretty much supporting earth changes??

Don't let all this negativity detract from the brother hood mankind should feel, it aint us vs them. Its just us.

Maybe you motherfuckers will get a dose of wake the fuck up one day, but until then enjoy your pitiful jobs at GLP, and remember it doesnt matter if the poles shift and 90% of the population dies... Because as my good friend, Macho Man, Randy Savage said....

The beat goes on!!

Oh, yes, the baring goes on.....

and you will take it.

muahiuahua.....

uhm - that quoting structure went wrong, must be a magnetic influence of nibiru to my keybaord....

Haha, what a shame you fucked up your quoting structure...

Don't be such a hater. Be civil, back in the day you probably would have been manipulated by Hitler, but lets not stereotype now, not nice is it?

If you wanna go after Nancy, why not go after ALL of the whole *new age movement*???

You know, the ones selling all those get wise quick, existential drugs that people lap up, making a fortune in the process.



Fuck this bull shit propaganda machine you fanatics spend your lives on (probably work here)...

"If the Guides are correct .. the survivors of the axial shift .. will number in the millions, rather than the billions. ... The shift will have its warnings. The weather will become increasingly violent. Eruptions of ancient volcanoes, earth tremors of major proportions, and tidal waves of monumental scope. ... Some will recognize this as the time to remove themselves from the seacoasts. Some will remain, disbelieving that a shift will occur, and some will refuse to leave their homes." - Ruth Montgomery.

Just to fuck with you wankers a bit.

Keep your jobs interesting. lol

Here's some more from our favorite historian... Mr Velikovsky :D

In the middle of the second millennium before the present era [approximately 3,500 years ago], the earth underwent one of the greatest catastrophes in its history. A celestial body ... came very close to the earth. The account of this catastrophe can be reconstructed from evidence supplied by a large number of documents. The comet .. touched the earth first with it's gaseous tail. .. Servius wrote, "It was not of a flaming but of a bloody redness."

One of the first visible signs of this encounter was the reddening of the earth's surface by a fine dust of rusty pigment. In sea, lake, and river this pigment gave a bloody coloring to the water. Because of these particles of ferruginous or other soluble pigment, the world turned red.

The Manuscript Quiche of the Mayas tells that in the Western Hemisphere, in the days of a great cataclysm, when the earth quaked and the sun's motion was interrupted, the water in the rivers turned to blood.

Ipuwer, the Egyptian eyewitness to the catastrophe, wrote his lament on papyrus, "The river is blood", and this corresponds with the Book of Exodus 7:20: "All the waters that were in the river were turned to blood".- Worlds in Collision.

Hmmmm wow, sounds compelling!!!

Psychic Ruth Montgomery also foresaw a pole shift. In her book Strangers Among Us, The Shift, she wrote about what certain spirit guides had told her: "If the Guides are correct, the survivors of the axial shift... will number in the millions, rather than the billions. The shift will have its warnings. The weather will become increasingly violent. Eruptions of ancient volcanoes, earth tremors of major proportions, and tidal waves of monumental scope. Some will recognize this as the time to remove themselves from the seacoasts. Some will remain, disbelieving that a shift will occur, and some will refuse to leave their homes."

Even extraterrestrials are warning us about an immanent pole shift, the people at ZetaTalk would have us believe. The Zetas, whoever they are, say that a polar shift will occur as part of the millennial transformation. First, they say, a comet's tail will sweep the Earth, actually stopping the planet's rotation for a few days, resulting in violent lightning, wind, and fire storms. "Then, as the core of the Earth attempts to align magnetically with the giant comet, there is a pole shift with continental rip, mountain building, and sinking and rising land; how gigantic tidal waves and climbing water assault the coasts, though water movement began when rotation stopped, and an ocean vortex can form; how plate shifts can result in a sinking Atlantic floor, affecting the surrounding shorelines, and new land near Antarctica." - Paranormal . com

LOL

Suck on my chocolate, salty balls

What? It's not debunkers who are pushing the idea of a stark division between peoples called "STS" and "STO".

I'm not talking about zetatalk exclusively, so don't reply to me as if I am...

I guess you have to in regards to what u know best..

You cant deny polarity is existing on earth, always two choices in every moment. Love or fear.

In the end its all one

Your "facts" are bullshit, the logic is far away from being even silly, your reasoning is non-existent.

You are just a lousy name caller.

All hat but not cattle.

Thank you,

My kind, German friend.

I am glad that we see eye to eye.

No, you're talking about we who contribute to this thread. Our "jobs" at GLP? Wtf is wrong with you? This thread was started in reaction to the damnable lies issuing forth from Nancy Lieder and Zetatalk. I feel no guilt about it whatsoever.

Umm... You're here to teach us philosophy? What on Earth makes you think that I or anybody else here needs to be taught that? You actually aren't making sense. First it's: "two choices", then it's: "it's all one". Make up your mind.

I think it is YOU who is struggling with personal philosophy and playing out your struggle here.

I am so what of lost following the discussion

The operative conditional word is *if*. *if* this...*if* that.....& as none of the above has happened your statement is irrelevant.

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Why on earth would you quote such a ridiculous source as a *psychic*? lemme guess......you've no ideas of your own and have little capacity for education.

Which choice are you engaging in on this thread?

"Earth changes" have been buzzwords since the 80s. I first got exposed to the idea via a book called: "WE ARE THE EARTHQUAKE GENERATION" way back then.

Well, I guess the weird kiwi cultist wasn`t so happy to read some facts. This is understandable because like always they show that crazy Nancy LIEDer is full blown nuts. His condition seems more and more adapted to the other cultists. First he is giggling around in pure paranoia, then he gets an outburst of fury. Reality hurts cultists. They will freak out.

Besides that it is always again funny: when they have no more arguments they start quoting all kind of weird conspiracy bullshit to distract from their obvious failure. I bet the weird kiwi had no idea about the real research of Robert Harrington, an astronomer who was abused by some conspiracy theorists after his death, because he couldn`t defend himself anymore.

Harrington didn`t think about a planet which comes into the inner solar system. His concept of a Planet X was a so called transneptun object. Nibiru is nothing more than an internet hoax to fool some gullible people without astronomic background.

First our weird kiwi cultist was so happy about an interview of Nancy in a third-class internet show and now he looks a little bit like a sore loser. Then you join a cult like Nancytalk fail is always with you. You will get an endless waiting for nothing guarantee. And how does it come that he thinks we are paid for writing here. In his paranoia outbursts he is writing more than all the others in this thread. Sounds rather pathetic to me. And it also proves that he lost every clue about reality. Such claims always come from wackos who have nothing to say. Obviously his penile plug – Nancy ordered the cultists to get one – makes him suffer a lot. I would recommend him a little vacation in Indonesia to verify Nancy`s latest claims (hoaxes) about the sinking of this country. This would be more helpful for him than quoting the same weird idiocies for the 20th time here.


Last Edited by VeritasN1 on 06/26/2013 02:43 PM

Yes - that is pretty obvious, but as I said, I think if you really want to have this information to take effect on your beliefs, then you are best by going through it on your own.



Thats life... thats GLP.. learn to not give a damn thing about it. After all you know what your really up to - nobody can read your mind.



Why do you get that impression? People come and go... its just a hobby.
And stuff that is influencing peoples lifes should be taken serious, especially if someone is crying wolf to do this or that. not?



Thats cool. There's a lot of stuff about it.. however facing the truth means, there really is no rouge planet in our solar system. At least thats the result of collective research.
Much prophecy simply turned out to be false.



Sorry if I hit a nerve. I really thought my opinion of this could save you a lot of time in the future.

Regarding the facebook page, unfortunately I can't change the name anymore because it has too many followers already.(Facebook restriction).
I would remove the Poleshift notion because it is essentially useless.. but well, looks like I got to live with it.

(Deleting the page is considered a pity in my opinion, since I really try to post relevant stuff to it that I think could be important for people to be aware about.)

Earth Changes is pretty vague. Includes Political, sociological, physical etc.

It depends on you what you connect to it.



Hey, all the debunkers want is having the lies exposed... Isn't that going into the direction of what you call "brother hood"?
They're trying to help..but some people react defensive when their claims are questioned (for the good).



Cheers. I had my most harsh awakening, finding out about the ammount of bull that is spread on pseudoscience- and esoteric/religious topics, and the slow crippling desintegration of this world that will take place.
(Although lately we're really going into a positive trend, also due to Edwarn Snowdens courage and the support he's recieving).




It doesn't matter?
On which side are you bro? Because if you don't give a damn about 90% of 6 billion people suffering, then I really can't imagine of what "brother hood" you are speaking of.

I doubt you belong to that dim elite who are too frightened to allow emotions.

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