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Nancy seemed nice!!!

lol gonna be on a show matter-x in Moscow!
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lol just to balance out the page
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Nancy seemed nice!!!

lol gonna be on a show matter-x in Moscow!
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lol just to balance out the page
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<laughing>

I'm not sure "crazy" balances out "cruel".
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Nancy seemed nice!!!

lol gonna be on a show matter-x in Moscow!
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lol just to balance out the page
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42444168


<laughing>

I'm not sure "crazy" balances out "cruel".
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Haha, well crazy balances out sane.

Considering how *sane* this thread is... along with all of its *sane* participators, such as truther and the big Canadian V..

Both of whom are obviously very *sane* LOL...

Every one on the planet was born into insanity.
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Sanity is an subjective viewpoint from those lacking their own mental stability.
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lol just to balance out the page
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<laughing>

I'm not sure "crazy" balances out "cruel".


Haha, well crazy balances out sane.

Considering how *sane* this thread is... along with all of its *sane* participators, such as truther and the big Canadian V..

Both of whom are obviously very *sane* LOL...

Every one on the planet was born into insanity.


You`re a stupid culttard. I don`t think morons like you are welcome here. I hope you have no children.
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Btw Nancy looks in this clip like they gave her two bottles of Russian Wodka for it ... nothing more ... lol ...

Horrible and embarassing,, she is a shame for the human race.
And btw not one word about her Nibirus looks like nobody is interested in that hoax anymore bump
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You`re a stupid culttard. I don`t think morons like you are welcome here. I hope you have no children.
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That's a little harsh.
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Seems someone took Poleshit-Nancys advice literal:

Thread: Tampa man killed, cooked family dog

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Seems someone took Poleshit-Nancys advice literal:

Thread: Tampa man killed, cooked family dog

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LOL! Nice Hydra...
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Seems someone took Poleshit-Nancys advice literal:

Thread: Tampa man killed, cooked family dog

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Eeeeeeeeeek!!
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SOZT
Nancy in the media, which we predicted, though this show came prior to the announcement and not in what we predict will be a flood of appearances after the announcement by Obama admitting the presence of Nibiru. Russia is more open to discussing the alien presence and evidence of Nibiru, aka Planet X, and thus is leading the charge. This broadcast also shows how easily a TV appearance can be arranged, from the comfort of Nancy’s home, and on a moment’s notice. The Russia 1 broadcast will set a precedence. Get in line, TV stations of the world!
EOZT


Haters gon' hate!!!!!!!!

I hope Nancy takes off, the consequences can ONLY be beneficial. If people don't use their own discernment then that's their prerogative!!

MTC is OVA
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SOZT
What is lost in the reports on horrific and record breaking flooding is the role that heaving or shifting ground plays in the inability of water to drain in its accustomed manner. The N American continent is in a bow, the tip of Mexico pulled west while the top part of the continent stays in place. The Aleutian Islands and the tip of Mexico are the ends of the bow. What happens when the land to the east of the Continental Divide is stretched in this manner? Grab the edges of a rumpled blanket and pull it taut and watch the blanket almost rise from the bed. Rivers drain along the lowlands, and when these RISE as the land is being stretched, the rivers cannot drain as before.

Examine this aspect of horrific flooding in various parts of the globe. Uttarakhand in India is where the flat land of India dives under the Himalayas. The land is being pushed down, changing the landscape for water that must drain AWAY from this point. Water may drain as it did before, but more slowly, may accumulate at certain points before being released and then break through an earthen dam to be released in a rush. The Eurasian Plate is being stretched, sinkholes and twisting rails a plague from the UK past the Black Sea region and onto the far East. Thus stretched, river bottom lands in many places will interfere with drainage, causing flooding.
EOZT


ONLY because I know how much ZetaTalk.com Is Appreciated in this Thread

I Cant Not Deliver What You All Want, Which Is More ZetaTalk.

I Really hope You "Debunkers" enjoy, as I know How Passionately you Enjoy ZetaTalk.

Aren't there around 10,000 ZetaTalk pages. Haha Plenty of material to use to post (even if it is just to annoy you "debunkers")

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SOZT
Nancy in the media, which we predicted, though this show came prior to the announcement and not in what we predict will be a flood of appearances after the announcement by Obama admitting the presence of Nibiru. Russia is more open to discussing the alien presence and evidence of Nibiru, aka Planet X, and thus is leading the charge. This broadcast also shows how easily a TV appearance can be arranged, from the comfort of Nancy’s home, and on a moment’s notice. The Russia 1 broadcast will set a precedence. Get in line, TV stations of the world!
EOZT


Haters gon' hate!!!!!!!!

I hope Nancy takes off, the consequences can ONLY be beneficial. If people don't use their own discernment then that's their prerogative!!

MTC is OVA
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Obama should have made the announcement by now eh?? Wonder what's holding it up.....could it be the fact the nibiru doesn't actually exist?
*shock, horror* lmfao.

Last Edited by Elemental on 06/29/2013 10:05 AM
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I just want to talk about the actual earth changes without all this cult nonsense which you love to bring up (obsessed??).. But obviously this thread will never provide any honest answers due to the amount of bias.
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And here lies the problem, there are no "Earth changes" beyond what is normal fluctuations and those added to by human kind.

You see an acceleration brought on by advances in scientific reporting, in the 60's and 70's we began to study using satellites and imaging, now we have extensive monitoring and reporting in real time.

So you want to investigate something that does not exist and can be proven.

But you are only interested in Nancy derived fairy stories.
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I just want to talk about the actual earth changes without all this cult nonsense which you love to bring up (obsessed??).. But obviously this thread will never provide any honest answers due to the amount of bias.
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And here lies the problem, there are no "Earth changes" beyond what is normal fluctuations and those added to by human kind.

You see an acceleration brought on by advances in scientific reporting, in the 60's and 70's we began to study using satellites and imaging, now we have extensive monitoring and reporting in real time.

So you want to investigate something that does not exist and can be proven.

But you are only interested in Nancy derived fairy stories.
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The only solution for this type of delusion is time(lots of it) however that being said over 10 years have passed still no showing of said rogue planet. This will be running gag till nancy LIEder passes away. Everyone remebers predictions with dates of the event to take place which didn't happen. All they gotten was lame excuses one after another. Amazing how happy these individuals believing disaster adverted with each lame excuse. Everyone knows no open discussion over at the ning just with members who must totally believe zetababble. To live your life under someone's lie is just wrong then some day wake up many years gone by to find their completely broke emotionally and financially from waiting for an event to take place that is fictious. 10+years gone already which you can't get back, when will they live life to be happy for themselves and their families.
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I just want to talk about the actual earth changes without all this cult nonsense which you love to bring up (obsessed??).. But obviously this thread will never provide any honest answers due to the amount of bias.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42393127



And here lies the problem, there are no "Earth changes" beyond what is normal fluctuations and those added to by human kind.

You see an acceleration brought on by advances in scientific reporting, in the 60's and 70's we began to study using satellites and imaging, now we have extensive monitoring and reporting in real time.

So you want to investigate something that does not exist and can be proven.

But you are only interested in Nancy derived fairy stories.
 Quoting: prof-rabbit nli 41798958


The only solution for this type of delusion is time(lots of it) however that being said over 10 years have passed still no showing of said rogue planet. This will be running gag till nancy LIEder passes away. Everyone remebers predictions with dates of the event to take place which didn't happen. All they gotten was lame excuses one after another. Amazing how happy these individuals believing disaster adverted with each lame excuse. Everyone knows no open discussion over at the ning just with members who must totally believe zetababble. To live your life under someone's lie is just wrong then some day wake up many years gone by to find their completely broke emotionally and financially from waiting for an event to take place that is fictious. 10+years gone already which you can't get back, when will they live life to be happy for themselves and their families.
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Ditto. That is the price to be paid for the blind adaption of Nancy's beliefs.

I suspect once that ol'sacks time is over, the remaining believers will be very confused and not able to understand what happened and what it implicates about all the years of waiting and the future perspectives.

They're gone. Thats the implication.
The price of relying on someone based on his words, his charisma, his prospects, his kind appearance and appraoch - while ignoring the past actions.

Believers eat the facts that,
- 2003 passed and nothing happened, Nancy having to pull up an excuse,
- 2012 is too far out on serveral occasion - N again having to pull up excuses,
- the lack of manifestation of her 7/10-etc.-predictions, Nancy again having to pull up an excuse (invisible metal boxes)
- the fail of her 93% per Chance Obama announcement blamed on certain circumstances or whatever.
- ...
- .. an endless list of fails and N again having to further evade.

If you take the 7% from the Obama fail and add the many (thousands!) of other fails and compare this to her "accuracy", you would realize the believers take chances of 0,00000X% as evident enough to change their lifes to it!!!

Irrationality knows no bounds.


Its a high price for sure for such a lesson.

Haters gon' hate!!!!!!!!

I hope Nancy takes off, the consequences can ONLY be beneficial. If people don't use their own discernment then that's their prerogative!!

MTC is OVA
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42522604


Would you want Hitler to "take off" big time?
After all "If people don't use their own discernment then that's their prerogative!!" - right?

See how easy we supress rationalism due to our biases?

Nope. Presenting a manipulative make-up especially intended for the weak is ANYTHING OTHER THAN BENEFICIAL.
It is destructive. That is what you need to tell your bias.

Fact, that is.

Start by Nancy's shepard.

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The lol-kiwi-wacko is a real cult troll. I think he consumed too much of Nancy`s bullshit. If you do this you will end up like him.

The announcement will of course never come. Nobody announces something that doesn`t exist. Such things only happen in crazy Nancy`s land of bad fairy tales and hoaxes.

I wonder how much members are left there now?

Zwaan should finally close the page, give them their meds and stop this terrible fraud.
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This whole announcement is one of Nancy's most ridiculous and arrogant claims ever.

Again when it will fail to happen Nancy will blame it on some circumstances... and the fact that this is so predictable, is what makes her claims so arrogant - hence she knows that too!

Nancy couldn't dominate by strenght so she pulled up per "controversial job". Good Job Nancy, the whole world loves you for your tolerance, transparency, reasoning, courage and honesty?!

Oh, right..
[link to cdn0.meme.li]
lmao

EDIT:

Here is a calculation for Nancy's prediction accuracy:
f(x) = 1/x² where x = "A Claim of Ninny lieder", and x>=1.

Now to calculate her accuracy over a long span we approximate toward infinity:

lim f(x) = lim(1/x²) for x->infinite,

f(infinite) = 1/infinite²

f(infinite) = 0

beer2
Expl:
Now if Nancy makes two claims (because x>1) the approximation would be f(2)= 1/(2*2) = 0.25 = 25% chance.

Lets say Ninny made 1000 claims it would be f(1000) = 1 / (1000*1000) = 1*10-6 = 0,0001%

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The kiwi cult troll is a stupid motherfucker and an asshole. Nobody knows why he keeps on posting here. We aren`t interested in cult babble.

And everybody here knows that Nanny Lieder is a piece of bullshit. The wanking kiwi tried so much cult strategies here. We all know he is a cult-addict. Bill from hillbilly town.

So Kiwi cult victim! Nobody wants you here, your mouth is only full of bullshit. Why don`t you post on your poleshit.ning.com. The cult strategies of your mistress don’t work here. We are different and we are intelligent. Nancy`s victims are not intelligent. But we should ask us the question why this little motherfucker comes here again and again. He has nothing to say, he is a spam-idiot, and he is full of shit. We know who you are cult kiwi. And we all know that you are a real moron. Nobody here cares about you, as everbody here knows you are a real moron. Why are you posting your bullshit here. It looks like you are investing here more time than anybody else.

Perhaps we should ignore you, but then your life has no more sense. You love your Fake Nancy, don’t you Kiwi? You are as stupid as hell, but you love your weird cult.
Good that you can have no children – and we all know that guys like you don’t fuck : If you had some children they would end up as morons like you. Good that you have your penile plug. Good for this earth and good for you. Your stupidity works like a disease, asshole.
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And something else! We just write the truth.

That`s it!
You are a part of the truth as long as you mention it!
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SOZT
Nancy in the media, which we predicted, though this show came prior to the announcement and not in what we predict will be a flood of appearances after the announcement by Obama admitting the presence of Nibiru. Russia is more open to discussing the alien presence and evidence of Nibiru, aka Planet X, and thus is leading the charge. This broadcast also shows how easily a TV appearance can be arranged, from the comfort of Nancy’s home, and on a moment’s notice. The Russia 1 broadcast will set a precedence. Get in line, TV stations of the world!
EOZT


Haters gon' hate!!!!!!!!

I hope Nancy takes off, the consequences can ONLY be beneficial. If people don't use their own discernment then that's their prerogative!!

MTC is OVA
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Wow, she isn't even trying to make her Zetas sound like something other than herself anymore. It is just so obviously her now. There is no discernible difference anymore.
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Haha I am tempted, but I will refrain from sinking to Big V and Truthers level.. I could easily post insults and ad hominem attacks but thats not my style to be honest, though it is tempting to fight fire with fire..

Haha, lets just celebrate our differences with some of what brings us all together!! More ZetaTalk!!!! afroafroalien16afroafro
ZetaTalk: Alien Encounters
Note: written on Feb 15, 1997
During the Awakening, sightings of alien ships will much precede sightings of actual aliens for a number of reasons. Recall that a key concern during the Awakening is to guard against raising the anxiety level of the humans on Earth, which would incline them toward the Service-to-Self orientation due to the self concern that is engendered during threatening situations.

The Outcome: Any sightings of alien life forms must be in a setting where the anxiety is slight, and is balanced overall by a sense of relief that alien encounters have been experienced with a reasonable outcome. The experiencer is not harmed, has not been intimidated, and finds they can communicate with the alien reasonably well.

The Experiencer: Where sightings of alien life forms will be forthcoming during the Awakening, they will occur only where the humans involved are considered strong enough to arrive at logical conclusions rather than panic-driven conclusions. These individuals are few and far between.

The Locale: Beyond the experiencer him or herself, there is the issue of how the humans in the immediate locale will react. The overall result must be a positive view of the alien presence. If an individual here or there will have a fearful reaction, this in and of itself will not prevent the sighting if their reaction is balanced out by receptive reactions in others.


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O.M.G??

Is that Zetas Right Again???
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O.M.G??

Is that Zetas Right Again???
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Lol, did the aliens do a Mexican wave through the windows as they flew past? thanks for posting, this stuff is hilarious...beep beep...
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O.M.G??

Is that Zetas Right Again???
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Lol, did the aliens do a Mexican wave through the windows as they flew past? thanks for posting, this stuff is hilarious...beep beep...
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They never got anything right before therefore as they say past behavior mimic present behavior "nope" nancy LIEder complete fail again.
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O.M.G??

Is that Zetas Right Again???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42560456


Lol, did the aliens do a Mexican wave through the windows as they flew past? thanks for posting, this stuff is hilarious...beep beep...
 Quoting: Elemental


They never got anything right before therefore as they say past behavior mimic present behavior "nope" nancy LIEder complete fail again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42549399


Ninny FaiLieder...hehe ;)

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O.M.G??

Is that Zetas Right Again???
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That is just a confused Gander trying to find its Gooses family that are currently in migration in Cabo San Lucas.
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Perhaps it`s a helicopter that is looking for Gerard Zwaan to bring him to a cultclinic ... lol
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There are several characters on this ning who can`t be real...
I`m just thinking of the guy with the lenseflares whom they call Alberto or the other guy whom they call Polli...
but I m not sure whether stupidity is curable they would have needed a hospital special
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you`re discussing ill and sick people here but mental diseases ARE NOT funny, you need a good hospital and a friendliy environment to help such people you will often need a very strong medication too to cure... my cousin also got into a cult and he needed a very long treatment after it as he was into drug abuse too ... cults often use halucinogens and strange ways to get their victims, for further information please read some articles here
[link to emedicine.medscape.com]





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