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Message Subject Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!!
Poster Handle Menow
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I'd be interested to hear how you concluded that Nancy consciously knows she is lying. I have always though that she believes what she says, regardless of how impossible that might seem.
 Quoting: Menow 2913051


From my experiences as a Moderator.

Namely when she started to delete discussions on the admin-ning where I and others concluded ZetaTalk was wrong, clearly to avoid the others of reading this info.

Or on another occasion (the Maria-story, detailed in my doc), she was actively trying to discredit my person and turn me into a perpetrator to suggest the others that I was "bad" just for questioning her claims, aside from the fact that I proved that Maria was not a blackOps by a live-video, yet Nancy tried to suggest her other Moderators that Maria was still an "actor" in very bizzare ways. (She even provided bits of it in the "disgruntled Moderator" posting, claiming Marias teeth are different, yet it shows a one-to-one match, clearly showing it was indeed Maria and not a BlackOps despite Nancy's claims.)

Or generally when you question her, she will get angry quite quickly and try to discredit you and let you look foolish, naive etc. (logical fallacies).

Or the way how she discredited Moderators who became "uneasy" and quickly declared them as "BlackOps" to get rid of them.

Now I'd be interested how in your opinion someone who considers himself "service-to-other" and believing it would react in such ways which are extremly typical for people who are confronted with their lies and unwilling to admit them?

I can understand if this is not convincing to outsiders, but if you ask people who have directly worked with her it appears to be the general consensus of which I fully agree.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


You're asking questions about how a rational person would act. Nancy is not rational in any way most of us can understand. I think all of the above could be done by a person who believes they are just preserving the message and the "truth".

I have seen Nancy do underhanded and obfuscatory things for a long time now. She has said many, many, many things which one would think she can't possibly believe are true. It is still in that light that I think she believes everything she says. It's along the lines of someone who has the mentality where they can "Lie so good they think it's true". Some people have an almost unlimited ability for self-deception.
 
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