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Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ...
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 6330
7/7/2009 12:28 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
And, honestly, you aren't bringing balance, since the position you are defending is erroneous.
Not all evidence is created equal. And the debunkers continually bring up points -- more polite than not -- that demonstrate that Nancy's astronomical claims -- the cornerstone of her entire mythology -- are utterly wrong.
It is like going to a mathematics forum (or a conspiracy mathematics forum?), and arguing that "2+2= a herring." And then accusing everyone who says that 'herring' is an incorrect answer of being paid to do so, or an agent of the government.
That's balance? |
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User # 78/68
User ID: 681262
7/7/2009 12:29 PM
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Please explain in detail what you consider to be nancy's "message". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 719433
I'm not interested in wasting my time with you, if you don't even know this answer. Read Zetatalk and you should be able to tell me .... It's VERY clear. |
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Circuit Breaker 
Countdown To Nancy's Next Failure
User ID: 612979
7/7/2009 12:33 PM
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Honestly, there are possibly many messages at ZetaTalk. However, the very core of ZetaTalk is "Planet X" and preparing for some "pole shift" it was supposed to cause. We know how that turned out. |
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Mysterysoul
User ID: 664247
7/7/2009 12:33 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
Please explain in detail what you consider to be nancy's "message".
I'm not interested in wasting my time with you, if you don't even know this answer. Read Zetatalk and you should be able to tell me .... It's VERY clear. Quoting: User # 78/68
I believe he was meaning for YOU as USER # 78/68, to define what your interpretation of nancy's message is. not what Zetatalk's overall message is. if it isn't what he meant, I would respectfully ask you to answer as I would like to know myself though.
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, martini in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming--WOO HOO what a ride!" |
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Circuit Breaker
Countdown To Nancy's Next Failure
User ID: 612979
7/7/2009 12:34 PM
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I believe he was meaning for YOU as USER # 78/68, to define what your interpretation of nancy's message is. not what Zetatalk's overall message is. if it isn't what he meant, I would respectfully ask you to answer as I would like to know myself though. Quoting: Mysterysoul
Valid point...because each person can take away from it what they want. |
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User # 78/68
User ID: 681262
7/7/2009 12:35 PM
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And, honestly, you aren't bringing balance, since the position you are defending is erroneous.
Not all evidence is created equal. And the debunkers continually bring up points -- more polite than not -- that demonstrate that Nancy's astronomical claims -- the cornerstone of her entire mythology -- are utterly wrong.
It is like going to a mathematics forum (or a conspiracy mathematics forum?), and arguing that "2+2= a herring." And then accusing everyone who says that 'herring' is an incorrect answer of being paid to do so, or an agent of the government.
That's balance? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6330
You see it your way ... I see it mine.
"more polite than not" ... to me, that's erroneous!
Nancy's astronomical claims are NOT the cornerstone of her entire mythology. You should know this. The spiritual aspect of what is going on has and always will be the cornerstone of her message. I know the debunkers do not like this fact, but it's a fact none the less. Nancy makes this very clear. |
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DrPostman 
Forum Moderator
User ID: 51197
7/7/2009 3:46 PM
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And, honestly, you aren't bringing balance, since the position you are defending is erroneous.
Not all evidence is created equal. And the debunkers continually bring up points -- more polite than not -- that demonstrate that Nancy's astronomical claims -- the cornerstone of her entire mythology -- are utterly wrong.
It is like going to a mathematics forum (or a conspiracy mathematics forum?), and arguing that "2+2= a herring." And then accusing everyone who says that 'herring' is an incorrect answer of being paid to do so, or an agent of the government.
That's balance? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6330
Naaaa, that would be a Red Herring.
Sorry. I couldn't resist.
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killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
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Soledad
User ID: 677020
7/7/2009 3:53 PM
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And, honestly, you aren't bringing balance, since the position you are defending is erroneous.
Not all evidence is created equal. And the debunkers continually bring up points -- more polite than not -- that demonstrate that Nancy's astronomical claims -- the cornerstone of her entire mythology -- are utterly wrong.
It is like going to a mathematics forum (or a conspiracy mathematics forum?), and arguing that "2+2= a herring." And then accusing everyone who says that 'herring' is an incorrect answer of being paid to do so, or an agent of the government.
That's balance?
"more polite than not" ... to me, that's erroneous! Quoting: User # 78/68
You got that right! |
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User # 78/68
User ID: 681262
7/7/2009 4:04 PM
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And, honestly, you aren't bringing balance, since the position you are defending is erroneous.
Not all evidence is created equal. And the debunkers continually bring up points -- more polite than not -- that demonstrate that Nancy's astronomical claims -- the cornerstone of her entire mythology -- are utterly wrong.
It is like going to a mathematics forum (or a conspiracy mathematics forum?), and arguing that "2+2= a herring." And then accusing everyone who says that 'herring' is an incorrect answer of being paid to do so, or an agent of the government.
That's balance?
Naaaa, that would be a Red Herring.
Sorry. I couldn't resist. Quoting: DrPostman
I know, but that's how you guys work. I get it!
Never mind I was directly answering a question using his exact words doing so ... should have used quotes, I guess?
The spin goes On and On and On.
The misleading becomes more comical all the time. |
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Menow
User ID: 405501
7/7/2009 4:10 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
And, honestly, you aren't bringing balance, since the position you are defending is erroneous.
Not all evidence is created equal. And the debunkers continually bring up points -- more polite than not -- that demonstrate that Nancy's astronomical claims -- the cornerstone of her entire mythology -- are utterly wrong.
It is like going to a mathematics forum (or a conspiracy mathematics forum?), and arguing that "2+2= a herring." And then accusing everyone who says that 'herring' is an incorrect answer of being paid to do so, or an agent of the government.
That's balance?
You see it your way ... I see it mine.
"more polite than not" ... to me, that's erroneous!
Nancy's astronomical claims are NOT the cornerstone of her entire mythology. You should know this. The spiritual aspect of what is going on has and always will be the cornerstone of her message. I know the debunkers do not like this fact, but it's a fact none the less. Nancy makes this very clear. Quoting: User # 78/68
Nancy's "...mythology..."
Glad we got that straight! |
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User # 78/68
User ID: 681262
7/7/2009 4:13 PM
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And, honestly, you aren't bringing balance, since the position you are defending is erroneous.
Not all evidence is created equal. And the debunkers continually bring up points -- more polite than not -- that demonstrate that Nancy's astronomical claims -- the cornerstone of her entire mythology -- are utterly wrong.
It is like going to a mathematics forum (or a conspiracy mathematics forum?), and arguing that "2+2= a herring." And then accusing everyone who says that 'herring' is an incorrect answer of being paid to do so, or an agent of the government.
That's balance?
You see it your way ... I see it mine.
"more polite than not" ... to me, that's erroneous!
Nancy's astronomical claims are NOT the cornerstone of her entire mythology. You should know this. The spiritual aspect of what is going on has and always will be the cornerstone of her message. I know the debunkers do not like this fact, but it's a fact none the less. Nancy makes this very clear.
Nancy's "...mythology..."
Glad we got that straight! Quoting: Menow 405501
There's the Menow we all know! |
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Menow
User ID: 405501
7/7/2009 4:15 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
The sceptics shouldn't be getting all whipped up and drawn into personal flaming, they should be calmly and objectively taking apart the facts and demonstrating the flaws in the Zeta claims. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 720151
Been done since day one, and STILL is done on a regular basis. Just because people have lost patience with the inane repetition of Nancy's oft disproven claims, that doesn't mean evidence showing Nancy wrong hasn't been provided over and over again. It's exactly like what is taking place on that TU thread right now. People offer calm, well-explained reasoning why her camera cannot capture accurate images, and she goes off with cries of "SHILL". How long do you expect rational people to hold their tongues in that environment? |
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DrPostman
Forum Moderator
User ID: 51197
7/7/2009 4:16 PM
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Nancy's "...mythology..."
Glad we got that straight! Quoting: Menow 405501
I found it quite quotable. Funny how he'd mention spin.
I bet he's got a whopper of a spin to cover that gaff.
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be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears
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Menow
User ID: 405501
7/7/2009 4:17 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
Did the fact that you only post to Zetatalk related threads go over your head, again Menow?
How nonsensicle is that? Quoting: User # 78/68
You have told this same lie numerous times. Have you no shame? |
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Menow
User ID: 405501
7/7/2009 4:20 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
Nobody in their right mind comes to GLP to argue with people on this specific issue, especially since you have nothing in common with the information. It doesn't make sense to anybody!
Then why are you here arguing?
Just bringing a bit of balance here, is all.
Besides the fact I am interested and personally have much in common with the words of the message. Many of Nancy's words intrigue me. I like her take on many topics. Quoting: User # 78/68
How do you determine that her "take" on any unverifiable subject is accurate in the face of her being so wrong in all verifiable areas? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 720227
7/7/2009 4:21 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
It is good to see Nancy sinking without trace though.
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Menow
User ID: 405501
7/7/2009 4:22 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
And, honestly, you aren't bringing balance, since the position you are defending is erroneous.
Not all evidence is created equal. And the debunkers continually bring up points -- more polite than not -- that demonstrate that Nancy's astronomical claims -- the cornerstone of her entire mythology -- are utterly wrong.
It is like going to a mathematics forum (or a conspiracy mathematics forum?), and arguing that "2+2= a herring." And then accusing everyone who says that 'herring' is an incorrect answer of being paid to do so, or an agent of the government.
That's balance?
Naaaa, that would be a Red Herring.
Sorry. I couldn't resist.
I know, but that's how you guys work. I get it!
Never mind I was directly answering a question using his exact words doing so ... should have used quotes, I guess?
The spin goes On and On and On.
The misleading becomes more comical all the time. Quoting: User # 78/68
Postman wasn't even quoting, nor responding to you in that post. What is WRONG with you? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 6330
7/7/2009 4:58 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
Nancy's astronomical claims are NOT the cornerstone of her entire mythology. You should know this. The spiritual aspect of what is going on has and always will be the cornerstone of her message. I know the debunkers do not like this fact, but it's a fact none the less. Nancy makes this very clear. Quoting: User # 78/68
I'm sorry, but you are very wrong, here.
What makes Nancy's claims different from any old internet crank? What is the qualitative difference between Nancy's mythology and the bazillions of others on the Internet?
She, herself, claims it is about accuracy. She, herself, says that the track record of Zetatalk is what makes it different and special. She says it is NOT a belief system. Zetatalk is fact, as far as she is concerned.
That supposed track record is BUILT on her past claims, and the whole Planet X/Poleshift idea is, by its very nature, astronomical. That's not spiritual. That's science.
If it WEREN'T about astronomy, why did she invade the sci.astro newsgroup? She could have posted in alt.art-bell, or alt.alien, or alt.philosophy, or alt.teotwawki, or a HOST of other newsgroups. Heck, those others would have probably welcomed her ideas, without critically examining her ideas. But she didn't. She *chose* sci.astro, which is about the scientific discussion of astronomy. SHE chose it. Not anyone else.
When she did, she opened the door into her ideas being scrutinized scientifically. If she had merely said 'I believe,' or hadn't done the wonderful 'Zeta 100 percent accuracy' claims, or hadn't picked a specific date for PX to show up, I doubt there'd be PX debunkers. She would have faded into the Internet Crank noise of others.
The spiritual aspect of Zetatalk didn't even APPEAR until years later, as her claims became harder and harder to support, and more and more evidence mounted that PX wasn't like she or her aliens claimed it was. Hence, white lies, elements of doubt, moving planets, and other excuses needed to be added to the mythology.
And mythology it is. I don't think there is a better way to describe the whole of the ideas of Nancy. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 705842
7/7/2009 5:28 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
Very correct. At its very core is the existance, or not, of an astronomical object, so the science errors that pervade ZT CANNOT be just bruished away as unimportant. Either planet x exists as Nancy claims or it does not. There is no in between. If it does not, then her whole house of cards comes crashing to the ground since there is no mechanism for her "pole shift".
So, try it again, User...explain how what it is that you think her "message" is without invoking the assumption of the existance of planet x. |
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Circuit Breaker
Countdown To Nancy's Next Failure
User ID: 612979
7/7/2009 5:56 PM
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You got that right! Quoting: Soledad
Lets not forget how impolite you've been. Or do you deny such behavior? |
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Circuit Breaker
Countdown To Nancy's Next Failure
User ID: 612979
7/7/2009 5:56 PM
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You got that right! Quoting: Soledad
Lets not forget how impolite you've been. Or do you deny such behavior? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 477259
7/7/2009 6:10 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
Nancy's astronomical claims are NOT the cornerstone of her entire mythology. Quoting: User # 78/68
Sorry, but astronomical claims are the cornerstone of her mythology.
Without planet X, zetatalk is just a bunch of nothing as planet X and the pole shift are the key component. |
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User # 78/68
User ID: 681262
7/7/2009 7:27 PM
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And, honestly, you aren't bringing balance, since the position you are defending is erroneous.
Not all evidence is created equal. And the debunkers continually bring up points -- more polite than not -- that demonstrate that Nancy's astronomical claims -- the cornerstone of her entire mythology -- are utterly wrong.
It is like going to a mathematics forum (or a conspiracy mathematics forum?), and arguing that "2+2= a herring." And then accusing everyone who says that 'herring' is an incorrect answer of being paid to do so, or an agent of the government.
That's balance?
Naaaa, that would be a Red Herring.
Sorry. I couldn't resist.
I know, but that's how you guys work. I get it!
Never mind I was directly answering a question using his exact words doing so ... should have used quotes, I guess?
The spin goes On and On and On.
The misleading becomes more comical all the time.
Postman wasn't even quoting, nor responding to you in that post. What is WRONG with you? Quoting: Menow 405501
You just can't keep up today Menow ... is that really you? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 705842
7/7/2009 8:41 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
Very correct. At its very core is the existance, or not, of an astronomical object, so the science errors that pervade ZT CANNOT be just bruished away as unimportant. Either planet x exists as Nancy claims or it does not. There is no in between. If it does not, then her whole house of cards comes crashing to the ground since there is no mechanism for her "pole shift".
So, try it again, User...explain how what it is that you think her "message" is without invoking the assumption of the existance of planet x. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 705842
User, are you going to answer this, or just try and pretend to ignore it? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 658394
7/7/2009 9:43 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
He won't try to answer. He just posts to elicit emotional responses from the debunkers. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 705842
7/7/2009 10:35 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
User doesn't really believe any of this crap. He's just trolling. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 6330
7/8/2009 12:05 AM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
I find it interesting that User went after Menow again, instead of engaging in a possibly good dialogue about PX as mythology.
Why? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 720861
7/8/2009 7:53 AM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
I find it interesting that User went after Menow again, instead of engaging in a possibly good dialogue about PX as mythology.
Why? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6330
Luser's quiver has always been empty. The only weapons he has are insult and diversion.
He's been found out that he's just a troll who doesn't believe in Nancy's view with his mythology statement. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 719433
7/8/2009 9:50 AM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
It's been obvious for years that User doesn't really believe any of this BS. He's just here to throw insults and troll. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 6330
7/8/2009 1:45 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
Hmmm. None of the other believers seem to be even acknowledging the PX as mythology statement. Though I appreciate #78/68 inadvertently raising it to tagline status (Thanks Postman!)
Maybe someone can ask Nancy about that in one of her chats. :) |
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