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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 724078 7/15/2009 1:55 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
After that date, I would concede that from my standpoint, there would be very little compelling reason for Nancy to continue Zetatalk, or for anyone else to follow it with anything more than most casual of interests. Quoting: ***ZetaMax***
Wow. That’s the best admission from max we will ever get. I thought for sure you would still believe her even after 2012 (no changing your mind now). But will you apologise for being so rude to all the debunkers? They would have been proved right after all.
Looks like it will just be freestore yapping at Nancy’s heels post 2012. |
| Circuit Breaker  Countdown To Nancy's Next Failure User ID: 612979 7/15/2009 2:25 PM
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Menow would have everybody not prepare in the least ... such a good little shill! Quoting: User # 78/68
He didn't say that.
And today we have Major Earthquakes popping off in the world. But, we're not supposed to notice them. Just watch as the USGS consistently downgrade them. Shills will be shills. I wouldn't want to be them in a couple of years. Quoting: User # 78/68
Wow! An earthquake. What makes this one special compared to all the earthquakes in, say, the past 30 years? Remember, Nancy said there would be an exponential increase in earthquakes. There's no evidence of any increase. And would you care to provide any evidence that the USGS is "downgrading" magnitudes? You do know that when an earthquake occurs, the magnitude given is just a preliminary estimate based on available information, don't you? Seismologists then analyze the data from multiple locations to come up with a final magnitude. Where's your evidence that any of this is part of some conspiracy? |
| Circuit Breaker  Countdown To Nancy's Next Failure User ID: 612979 7/15/2009 2:29 PM
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Okay, so the USGS called it a 7.6. But the European Seismo. Center NONPUBLIC website puts it at an 8.3. That sure sounds like a downgrade to me.
[ link to www.emsc-csem.org]
Soledad Quoting: Soledad
But you obviously ignored the data from other locations at the same time that come in lower, didn't you? And, that's just a preliminary reading. That isn't their official magnitude. |
| Circuit Breaker  Countdown To Nancy's Next Failure User ID: 612979 7/15/2009 2:30 PM
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Of course, Zetamax tries to be honest and still gets attacked for it. There's no point in interacting with hecklers. Quoting: Soledad
Just as there's no pint in interacting with you. You've ignored any evidence I've provided...because you only want to hear from people who support you. |
| DrPostman   Forum Moderator User ID: 51197 7/15/2009 3:18 PM
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This is for luser, just to prove my previous post:
"Civil defence officials in New Zealand have issued a tsunami warning after an underwater earthquake measuring 7.8 on the Richter scale. "
[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
This is from the NEIC/USGS report of the same earthquake:
"NST=209, Nph=209, Dmin=328.5 km, Rmss=0 sec, Gp= 25°,
M-type=teleseismic moment magnitude (Mw), Version=9"
[link to earthquake.usgs.gov]
Moment magnitude (Mw) and Richter (ML) are not the same.
News reports as 7.8 Richter
USGS/NEIC as 7.6 moment magnitude
Just like seismographs and celestial coordinates, Nancy doesn't know shit about earthquake magnitude scales.
Okay, so the USGS called it a 7.6. But the European Seismo. Center NONPUBLIC website puts it at an 8.3. That sure sounds like a downgrade to me.
[ link to www.emsc-csem.org]
Soledad Quoting: Soledad
You still don't get it. That's a report from the British
Geological Survey seismographs. Reports come in from many
different sources and ALL the reports have to be factored
TOGETHER to come up with a single magnitude. It has to be
averaged out from ALL the networks that report a quake, not
just one. Some will report higher and some will report lower.
Then top it off with the fact that the quake was reported
in MWP, which is the "P-wave moment magnitude" and it's no
wonder you are confused by all this and think that something
nefarious is going on. Here is the specific report you want
to cite:
[link to www.emsc-csem.org]
Answer me this. If there was something nefarious going on
why would all of this be available to the public?
Please take the time to read this:
"Once an earthquake has been located it is essential to find its magnitude to estimate the tsunamigenic potential. EarlyBird routinely calculates up to five different magnitudes (ML, Mb, Ms, Mm and Mwp) depending on the epicentral distance. The larger an earthquake, the more energy is released at long periods. Some of the magnitude scales (ML, Mb and Ms) only use phases with shorter periods and so saturate for large earthquakes. Thus, for larger events only Mm and Mwp reflect the size of the earthquake, and even Mwp will normally underestimate the size of earthquakes over magnitude 8. Mm or mantle magnitude (Okal and Talandier, 1989) is calculated using surface waves (period greater than 50 seconds), which arrive later than other phases and so cannot be obtained until some time after the other magnitudes. Mm is, therefore, only valuable for warnings of distant earthquakes. Mwp was specifically developed to quickly determine the size of a large earthquake and has been shown to be equivalent to moment magnitude Mw (Tsuboi et al., 1995; 1999) This makes it the most useful magnitude in the tsunami warning context. Alternative magnitudes have been developed to more accurately measure very large earthquakes (e.g. Lomax and Michelini, 2007) but so far these have not been implemented in EarlyBird."
[link to www.orfeus-eu.org]
Read the whole page and while it will probably make your
head spin it will also give some (if not you since I know
you don't like science) an inkling of an idea of how complex
and intricate and involved the process of calculating the
magnitude of a quake is. These calculations are NOT done
for the main public but for scientists in their quest to be
as precise as possible. "I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 719433 7/15/2009 3:23 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
Menow would have everybody not prepare in the least ... such a good little shill!
He didn't say that.
And today we have Major Earthquakes popping off in the world. But, we're not supposed to notice them. Just watch as the USGS consistently downgrade them. Shills will be shills. I wouldn't want to be them in a couple of years.
Wow! An earthquake. What makes this one special compared to all the earthquakes in, say, the past 30 years? Remember, Nancy said there would be an exponential increase in earthquakes. There's no evidence of any increase. And would you care to provide any evidence that the USGS is "downgrading" magnitudes? You do know that when an earthquake occurs, the magnitude given is just a preliminary estimate based on available information, don't you? Seismologists then analyze the data from multiple locations to come up with a final magnitude. Where's your evidence that any of this is part of some conspiracy? Quoting: Circuit Breaker
And it's on the "ring of fire" no less! There are earthquakes there all the freakin' time! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 725512 7/15/2009 3:26 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
This is for luser, just to prove my previous post:
"Civil defence officials in New Zealand have issued a tsunami warning after an underwater earthquake measuring 7.8 on the Richter scale. "
[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
This is from the NEIC/USGS report of the same earthquake:
"NST=209, Nph=209, Dmin=328.5 km, Rmss=0 sec, Gp= 25°,
M-type=teleseismic moment magnitude (Mw), Version=9"
[link to earthquake.usgs.gov]
Moment magnitude (Mw) and Richter (ML) are not the same.
News reports as 7.8 Richter
USGS/NEIC as 7.6 moment magnitude
Just like seismographs and celestial coordinates, Nancy doesn't know shit about earthquake magnitude scales.
Okay, so the USGS called it a 7.6. But the European Seismo. Center NONPUBLIC website puts it at an 8.3. That sure sounds like a downgrade to me.
[ link to www.emsc-csem.org]
Soledad
You still don't get it. That's a report from the British
Geological Survey seismographs. Reports come in from many
different sources and ALL the reports have to be factored
TOGETHER to come up with a single magnitude. It has to be
averaged out from ALL the networks that report a quake, not
just one. Some will report higher and some will report lower.
Then top it off with the fact that the quake was reported
in MWP, which is the "P-wave moment magnitude" and it's no
wonder you are confused by all this and think that something
nefarious is going on. Here is the specific report you want
to cite:
[ link to www.emsc-csem.org]
Answer me this. If there was something nefarious going on
why would all of this be available to the public?
Please take the time to read this:
"Once an earthquake has been located it is essential to find its magnitude to estimate the tsunamigenic potential. EarlyBird routinely calculates up to five different magnitudes (ML, Mb, Ms, Mm and Mwp) depending on the epicentral distance. The larger an earthquake, the more energy is released at long periods. Some of the magnitude scales (ML, Mb and Ms) only use phases with shorter periods and so saturate for large earthquakes. Thus, for larger events only Mm and Mwp reflect the size of the earthquake, and even Mwp will normally underestimate the size of earthquakes over magnitude 8. Mm or mantle magnitude (Okal and Talandier, 1989) is calculated using surface waves (period greater than 50 seconds), which arrive later than other phases and so cannot be obtained until some time after the other magnitudes. Mm is, therefore, only valuable for warnings of distant earthquakes. Mwp was specifically developed to quickly determine the size of a large earthquake and has been shown to be equivalent to moment magnitude Mw (Tsuboi et al., 1995; 1999) This makes it the most useful magnitude in the tsunami warning context. Alternative magnitudes have been developed to more accurately measure very large earthquakes (e.g. Lomax and Michelini, 2007) but so far these have not been implemented in EarlyBird."
[ link to www.orfeus-eu.org]
Read the whole page and while it will probably make your
head spin it will also give some (if not you since I know
you don't like science) an inkling of an idea of how complex
and intricate and involved the process of calculating the
magnitude of a quake is. These calculations are NOT done
for the main public but for scientists in their quest to be
as precise as possible. Quoting: DrPostman
According to your link the whole system was changed in 2006. You are just adding to the conspiracy. |
| DrPostman   Forum Moderator User ID: 51197 7/15/2009 3:30 PM
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According to your link the whole system was changed in 2006. You are just adding to the conspiracy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725512
For the British Geological Survey it has. Science is constantly
changing and improving the way they study data. There is
nothing wrong with that. They are attempting to improve
the way they can calculate the force of a quake so that
they can better warn the public. And if there was some sort
of conspiracy involved why would they mention the system
changing? "I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 725512 7/15/2009 3:32 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
According to your link the whole system was changed in 2006. You are just adding to the conspiracy.
For the British Geological Survey it has. Science is constantly
changing and improving the way they study data. There is
nothing wrong with that. They are attempting to improve
the way they can calculate the force of a quake so that
they can better warn the public. And if there was some sort
of conspiracy involved why would they mention the system
changing? Quoting: DrPostman
To create layers of deny ability and doubt. |
| DrPostman   Forum Moderator User ID: 51197 7/15/2009 4:10 PM
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To create layers of deny ability and doubt. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725512
Nothing is real in your world, is it? "I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 719433 7/15/2009 4:15 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote | These conspiricy nuts have to have something to whine about...even if they have to make it up. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 725512 7/15/2009 4:18 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
To create layers of deny ability and doubt.
Nothing is real in your world, is it? Quoting: DrPostman
Define real.
You asked a question and got an answer.. didn't like the answer so you make it personal.. I thought we all grew out of this in kindergarten?
My point is that in order to look at your "dubunker" material I have to assume that the people posting it are on the up and up. That is an assumption that I am unwilling to make. |
| ***ZetaMax***  Getting The Truth Out User ID: 659599 7/15/2009 4:18 PM
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Max, what do you think about Nancy's "grain of salt" statement about 2012? Will px be here by 2012, or won't it?
The point of a "warning" is to encourage PREPARATION. If one is PREPARED, then they are set whether the event transpires or not. My state of preparation will not change as the calendar rolls over from December 31st, 2011 to January 1st 2012.
Obviously "I don't KNOW" if PX will be here before (or even after) then ... or NOT. Otherwise, how could an "element of doubt" be in place???
You can't maintain an "element of doubt", yet concisely re-affirm a hard deadline such as Midnight 12/31/2011. So of course they will have to "hedge" the closer we "edge" toward the date.
BUT!!! - **I** have said, that **I** will consider such a blown date as fatal to the "immediacy" of her message. Too much of it rides the assertion that the pole shift occurs before 2012.
After that date, I would concede that from my standpoint, there would be very little compelling reason for Nancy to continue Zetatalk, or for anyone else to follow it with anything more than most casual of interests.
Being truly prepared for a pole shift would require leaving any city; buying land in rural areas; building bunkers, houses, barns storage units, etc; acquiring tens of thousands of dollars worth of tools and supplies, weapons, medicine; etc, etc, etc. It is NOT the casual thing anyone can do as you seem to imply. Quoting: Menow 405501
I live in a rural community - by choice.
I have tools - by choice.
I have gear and supplies and literature - by choice.
I am set for a pole-shift, an economic meltdown, foreign invasion, pandemic - you name it.
**I** read the writing on the wall years ago, and determined that we live in a terminal society, in a terminal age. So far, on every front, I see no reason to change that outlook.
And furthermore, I fail to appreciate how anyone can seriously have a contrary outlook based on the evidence that is available.
If they're deluded - THEIR problem
Misinformed - THEIR problem
Willfully ignorant - THEIR problem
None of the above but constrained by health, and finances - still THEIR problem, but now they start to garner my sympathy.
Hey - many of life's choices are HARD - not easy, not "casual". If you want "insurance" - you have to PAY for it.
One way or another.
Last Edited by ***ZetaMax*** on 7/15/2009 at 4:20 PM The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.
ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
[link to www.zetatalk.com] ZetaMax |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 725512 7/15/2009 4:21 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
These conspiricy nuts have to have something to whine about...even if they have to make it up. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 719433 Did you happen to notice the banner on the top of the page? The one that says it is a conspiracy web site?
You are whining about conspiracy nuts on a conspiracy web site? Really? |
| KeepingItReal User ID: 553451 7/15/2009 4:42 PM
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BUT!!! - **I** have said, that **I** will consider such a blown date as fatal to the "immediacy" of her message. Too much of it rides the assertion that the pole shift occurs before 2012.
"Immediacy"! You're a little late for that! It was supposed to be here six years ago!
Of course, Zetamax tries to be honest and still gets attacked for it. There's no point in interacting with hecklers.
What about you, Soledad? What do you think about Nancy's "grain of salt" statement? What will you think if it's not obvious by 2012? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 719433
Soledad says Planet X will appear on July 22 during the eclipse. Too bad she isn't anywhere near the regions where the eclipse is visible. Seven days to go for the failed prediction. Don't worry, though, Soledad. There will be another eclipse in a few months. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. |
| DrPostman   Forum Moderator User ID: 51197 7/15/2009 6:38 PM
 | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
To create layers of deny ability and doubt.
Nothing is real in your world, is it?
Define real.
You asked a question and got an answer.. didn't like the answer so you make it personal.. I thought we all grew out of this in kindergarten?
My point is that in order to look at your "dubunker" material I have to assume that the people posting it are on the up and up. That is an assumption that I am unwilling to make. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725512
Then you will never learn much from science. That's all I
offered. YOU chose to take it personally. It was science,
nothing more. "I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 725512 7/15/2009 6:48 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
To create layers of deny ability and doubt.
Nothing is real in your world, is it?
Define real.
You asked a question and got an answer.. didn't like the answer so you make it personal.. I thought we all grew out of this in kindergarten?
My point is that in order to look at your "dubunker" material I have to assume that the people posting it are on the up and up. That is an assumption that I am unwilling to make.
Then you will never learn much from science. That's all I
offered. YOU chose to take it personally. It was science,
nothing more. Quoting: DrPostman
This is going to be amazingly funny for all of my friends, I can not wait to show them. Since you do not know me than I can understand what you are saying though.
Science has never been full of truth and facts like people want to believe. Science goes to the highest bidder, just a fact of life. It is a religion of power. I can understand why some one who wants power will cling to science as the key, but in fact all it is , is a prison for free will.
If I can offer a suggestion; when "debunking" zetatalk, you could try and see how some one could look favorable on it first. This will be a stretch I realize, but if you want to communicate an idea you need to understand the mind set of the person you are communicating with.
In zetatalk they make a mockery of mans science calling it a short sited cleverness. (not a direct quote) So if you want to actually engage some one who is seriously trying to comprehend what is being said, you will need to look outside of your own self interests long enough to be heard. |
| Circuit Breaker  Countdown To Nancy's Next Failure User ID: 612979 7/15/2009 6:50 PM
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My point is that in order to look at your "dubunker" material I have to assume that the people posting it are on the up and up. That is an assumption that I am unwilling to make. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725512
How do you know the people posting "bunk" material are on the up and up? It's a known fact that Nancy posts images or makes claims without ever verifying the information and it has come back to bite her more than once...the most notable of which was when she claimed a photograph showed "Planet X" and its "moon swirls"...when in reality it was a flying kite. Apparently, however, assuming Nancy's claims are true is something you're willing to do. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 726172 7/15/2009 6:51 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
This is for luser, just to prove my previous post:
"Civil defence officials in New Zealand have issued a tsunami warning after an underwater earthquake measuring 7.8 on the Richter scale. "
[ link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
This is from the NEIC/USGS report of the same earthquake:
"NST=209, Nph=209, Dmin=328.5 km, Rmss=0 sec, Gp= 25°,
M-type=teleseismic moment magnitude (Mw), Version=9"
[ link to earthquake.usgs.gov]
Moment magnitude (Mw) and Richter (ML) are not the same.
News reports as 7.8 Richter
USGS/NEIC as 7.6 moment magnitude
Just like seismographs and celestial coordinates, Nancy doesn't know shit about earthquake magnitude scales.
Okay, so the USGS called it a 7.6. But the European Seismo. Center NONPUBLIC website puts it at an 8.3. That sure sounds like a downgrade to me.
[ link to www.emsc-csem.org]
Soledad Quoting: Soledad
Red Puma numbers:
15Jul2009 09:22:31.8 45.6S 166.7E 33 MS=7.6 M*GSR OFF W. COAST OF S. ISLAND,1142
15Jul2009 09:22:32.8 45.7S 166.6E 35 M =7.8 M*NEI OFF W. COAST OF S. ISLAND,1015
15Jul2009 09:22:30.5 45.7S 166.6E 2 Mw=7.7 M*EMS OFF W. COAST OF S. ISLAND,0955
[link to www.seismo.ethz.ch]
GSR = GS RAS, Obninsk, Russia
NEI = USGS
EMS = EMSC/CSEM (LDG/ING/IGN) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 725512 7/15/2009 7:30 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
My point is that in order to look at your "dubunker" material I have to assume that the people posting it are on the up and up. That is an assumption that I am unwilling to make.
How do you know the people posting "bunk" material are on the up and up? It's a known fact that Nancy posts images or makes claims without ever verifying the information and it has come back to bite her more than once...the most notable of which was when she claimed a photograph showed "Planet X" and its "moon swirls"...when in reality it was a flying kite. Apparently, however, assuming Nancy's claims are true is something you're willing to do. Quoting: Circuit Breaker
I really recommend that people find their own way through the material. Zetatalk is set up different from most sites, and while it seems to be a bit disorganized, it has a free will rhythm to it. This "feeling" is far more important to me, than some data some one got paid to produce.
I am interested in the concepts that Nancy has talked about, but I also do not stake my life the details. She is claiming to be translating a message. Things always get lost in the translation, but the fundamental intentions are what I am listing for. These have been taught thru the ages by very wise beings, and some of those lessons have been appearing in crop circles over the last couple of years.
This is all much bigger than zetatalk. |
| Free Store  User ID: 148384 7/15/2009 7:41 PM
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After that date, I would concede that from my standpoint, there would be very little compelling reason for Nancy to continue Zetatalk, or for anyone else to follow it with anything more than most casual of interests.
Wow. That’s the best admission from max we will ever get. I thought for sure you would still believe her even after 2012 (no changing your mind now). But will you apologise for being so rude to all the debunkers? They would have been proved right after all.
Looks like it will just be freestore yapping at Nancy’s heels post 2012. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 724078
You and my good friend Zetamax will be eating humble pie
Can you still say "everything is normal?"
 "do geese see god?"
"... lol, do your eyes need proof that they can see for to be able to see? "
gooderboy |
| Circuit Breaker  Countdown To Nancy's Next Failure User ID: 612979 7/15/2009 7:49 PM
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You and my good friend Zetamax will be eating humble pie
Can you still say "everything is normal?"
 Quoting: Free Store
How do you figure? In 2012 we'll all still be here.
And exactly what is normal? Whatever point you might be trying to make, the end result is this: whatever events are happening here on Earth have nothing to do with some "rogue planet." Something you can't seem to grasp. |
| Circuit Breaker  Countdown To Nancy's Next Failure User ID: 612979 7/15/2009 7:54 PM
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I really recommend that people find their own way through the material. Zetatalk is set up different from most sites, and while it seems to be a bit disorganized, it has a free will rhythm to it. This "feeling" is far more important to me, than some data some one got paid to produce. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725512
You stick with that "feeling." The core of ZetaTalk is to prepare people for some "rogue planet" that's supposed to come and cause a "pole shift" wiping out 90% of Earth's population. "Feelings" don't make "Planet X" real...nor do they make Earth "halt in orbit" or cause "pole shifts." |
| Menow User ID: 405501 7/15/2009 7:57 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
I am set for a pole-shift, Quoting: ***ZetaMax***
No, you're not. The polshift Nancy describes is not survivable. |
| Free Store  User ID: 148384 7/15/2009 8:05 PM
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How do you figure? In 2012 we'll all still be here.
And exactly what is normal? Whatever point you might be trying to make, the end result is this: whatever events are happening here on Earth have nothing to do with some "rogue planet." Something you can't seem to grasp. Quoting: Circuit Breaker
Gee wonder why I can't grasp it
You have no proof of that though the internet has a lot of evidence to back me up. where is yours?
 "do geese see god?"
"... lol, do your eyes need proof that they can see for to be able to see? "
gooderboy |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 725512 7/15/2009 8:10 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
I really recommend that people find their own way through the material. Zetatalk is set up different from most sites, and while it seems to be a bit disorganized, it has a free will rhythm to it. This "feeling" is far more important to me, than some data some one got paid to produce.
You stick with that "feeling." The core of ZetaTalk is to prepare people for some "rogue planet" that's supposed to come and cause a "pole shift" wiping out 90% of Earth's population. "Feelings" don't make "Planet X" real...nor do they make Earth "halt in orbit" or cause "pole shifts." Quoting: Circuit Breaker
If 90% of the population is going to die, the first half during the events .. and the rest due to starvation and shock, then the feelings are actually the key to survival. The love I have for my family will motivate me and keep me strong.
No scientific knowledge of this or that will mean more. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 725512 7/15/2009 8:13 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
I am set for a pole-shift,
No, you're not. The pole shift Nancy describes is not survivable. Quoting: Menow 405501
That must be why she took the time to work up the safe locations pages on her site
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 548017 7/15/2009 8:28 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
My point is that in order to look at your "dubunker" material I have to assume that the people posting it are on the up and up. That is an assumption that I am unwilling to make. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725512
That's a little silly, Look at everyone's material, use the reason that the Creator gave you and come to your own conclusion regardless of anyone's actual or perceived agenda. A fact is a fact whether you think someone is on the "up and up" or not. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 548017 7/15/2009 8:30 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
the internet has a lot of evidence to back me up. Quoting: Free Store
Well, that settles THAT!
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| Free Store User ID: 148384 7/15/2009 8:34 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
the internet has a lot of evidence to back me up.
Well, that settles THAT!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 548017
And your better evidence is?
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