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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 725512
7/15/2009 8:34 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
My point is that in order to look at your "dubunker" material I have to assume that the people posting it are on the up and up. That is an assumption that I am unwilling to make.
That's a little silly, Look at everyone's material, use the reason that the Creator gave you and come to your own conclusion regardless of anyone's actual or perceived agenda. A fact is a fact whether you think someone is on the "up and up" or not. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 548017
Why do I need to be pressed to a conclusion?
All things change including facts.
If you think this is silly, you might want to read Nancy's sig line sometime. |
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Menow
User ID: 405501
7/15/2009 8:46 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
To create layers of deny ability and doubt.
Nothing is real in your world, is it?
Define real.
You asked a question and got an answer.. didn't like the answer so you make it personal.. I thought we all grew out of this in kindergarten?
My point is that in order to look at your "dubunker" material I have to assume that the people posting it are on the up and up. That is an assumption that I am unwilling to make.
Then you will never learn much from science. That's all I
offered. YOU chose to take it personally. It was science,
nothing more.
This is going to be amazingly funny for all of my friends, I can not wait to show them. Since you do not know me than I can understand what you are saying though.
Science has never been full of truth and facts like people want to believe. Science goes to the highest bidder, just a fact of life. It is a religion of power. I can understand why some one who wants power will cling to science as the key, but in fact all it is , is a prison for free will.
If I can offer a suggestion; when "debunking" zetatalk, you could try and see how some one could look favorable on it first. This will be a stretch I realize, but if you want to communicate an idea you need to understand the mind set of the person you are communicating with.
In zetatalk they make a mockery of mans science calling it a short sited cleverness. (not a direct quote) So if you want to actually engage some one who is seriously trying to comprehend what is being said, you will need to look outside of your own self interests long enough to be heard. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725512
Not to speak for Postman, but we have discussed the reasoning behind the "favorable" responses to Zetatalk many times. Try to keep up. |
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Menow
User ID: 405501
7/15/2009 8:50 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
My point is that in order to look at your "dubunker" material I have to assume that the people posting it are on the up and up. That is an assumption that I am unwilling to make.
How do you know the people posting "bunk" material are on the up and up? It's a known fact that Nancy posts images or makes claims without ever verifying the information and it has come back to bite her more than once...the most notable of which was when she claimed a photograph showed "Planet X" and its "moon swirls"...when in reality it was a flying kite. Apparently, however, assuming Nancy's claims are true is something you're willing to do.
I really recommend that people find their own way through the material. Zetatalk is set up different from most sites, and while it seems to be a bit disorganized, it has a free will rhythm to it. This "feeling" is far more important to me, than some data some one got paid to produce.
I am interested in the concepts that Nancy has talked about, but I also do not stake my life the details. She is claiming to be translating a message. Things always get lost in the translation, but the fundamental intentions are what I am listing for. These have been taught thru the ages by very wise beings, and some of those lessons have been appearing in crop circles over the last couple of years.
This is all much bigger than zetatalk. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725512
If it is so obvious that things always get lost in translation, then why don't Nancy or "Zetas" realize and admit that? |
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Menow
User ID: 405501
7/15/2009 8:52 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
I am set for a pole-shift,
No, you're not. The pole shift Nancy describes is not survivable.
That must be why she took the time to work up the safe locations pages on her site
[ link to www.zetatalk.com]
-sarcasm alert-
"Zetas" claim that Earth will stop and then turn 90 degrees in one hour. Not survivable. Period. |
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Menow
User ID: 405501
7/15/2009 8:55 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
My point is that in order to look at your "dubunker" material I have to assume that the people posting it are on the up and up. That is an assumption that I am unwilling to make. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725512
No you don't. You look at what is offered and see if it is valid. Isn't that how you look at "Zetatalk"? If so, then how do you accept any of it when all of the astronomical and most of the other claims about physically provable things are clearly false? |
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Free Store
User ID: 148384
7/15/2009 8:58 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
"Zetas" claim that Earth will stop and then turn 90 degrees in one hour. Not survivable. Period. Quoting: Menow 405501
Gee that is too bad Menow |
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DrPostman  
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7/15/2009 9:15 PM
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In zetatalk they make a mockery of mans science calling it a short sited cleverness. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725512
Please be good enough to cite just one example of where
Zetatalk has made a mockery of human science.
Just one.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 725512
7/15/2009 9:21 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
Not to speak for Postman, but we have discussed the reasoning behind the "favorable" responses to Zetatalk many times. Try to keep up. Quoting: Menow 405501
It would be best if you just didn't speak at all.. this is a wasted post that makes no sense. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 725512
7/15/2009 9:24 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
My point is that in order to look at your "dubunker" material I have to assume that the people posting it are on the up and up. That is an assumption that I am unwilling to make.
How do you know the people posting "bunk" material are on the up and up? It's a known fact that Nancy posts images or makes claims without ever verifying the information and it has come back to bite her more than once...the most notable of which was when she claimed a photograph showed "Planet X" and its "moon swirls"...when in reality it was a flying kite. Apparently, however, assuming Nancy's claims are true is something you're willing to do.
I really recommend that people find their own way through the material. Zetatalk is set up different from most sites, and while it seems to be a bit disorganized, it has a free will rhythm to it. This "feeling" is far more important to me, than some data some one got paid to produce.
I am interested in the concepts that Nancy has talked about, but I also do not stake my life the details. She is claiming to be translating a message. Things always get lost in the translation, but the fundamental intentions are what I am listing for. These have been taught thru the ages by very wise beings, and some of those lessons have been appearing in crop circles over the last couple of years.
This is all much bigger than zetatalk.
If it is so obvious that things always get lost in translation, then why don't Nancy or "Zetas" realize and admit that? Quoting: Menow 405501
Telepathic communication is not verbal communication.
[link to search.freefind.com] |
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DrPostman
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User ID: 51197
7/15/2009 9:24 PM
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It would be best if you just didn't speak at all.. this is a wasted post that makes no sense. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725512
Ad hominem is the last resort of those who have lost a debate.
"I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 725512
7/15/2009 9:25 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
I am set for a pole-shift,
No, you're not. The pole shift Nancy describes is not survivable.
That must be why she took the time to work up the safe locations pages on her site
[ link to www.zetatalk.com]
-sarcasm alert-
"Zetas" claim that Earth will stop and then turn 90 degrees in one hour. Not survivable. Period.
link please.
Also I am curious as to why this is not survivable? |
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DrPostman
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7/15/2009 9:26 PM
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"Zetas" claim that Earth will stop and then turn 90 degrees in one hour. Not survivable. Period.
link please.
Also I am curious as to why this is not survivable? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725512
Where do you think the rotational energy of the Earth would
go if it altered that dramatically?
"I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears
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KeepingItReal
User ID: 553451
7/15/2009 9:28 PM
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How do you figure? In 2012 we'll all still be here.
And exactly what is normal? Whatever point you might be trying to make, the end result is this: whatever events are happening here on Earth have nothing to do with some "rogue planet." Something you can't seem to grasp.
Gee wonder why I can't grasp it
You have no proof of that though the internet has a lot of evidence to back me up. where is yours?
If Nancy is correct about planet x and the pole shift, the world will be wracked with winds more than 30 times stronger than hurricane Andrew or Katrina. The tidal wave would be at least 20 times larger than the Banda Aceh Tsunami. Nobody would survive, and even if you did, all the earth's fresh water would probably be salty and/or contaminated. Your shelter would probably be toast, and all of those provisions you bought would probably be washed or blown away. Agriculture would be impossible for years to come. Have you people ever stopped to think that most of the people that sell these doom scenarios urging you to prepare have interests in businesses that sell survival gear?
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 725512
7/15/2009 9:31 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
My point is that in order to look at your "dubunker" material I have to assume that the people posting it are on the up and up. That is an assumption that I am unwilling to make.
No you don't. You look at what is offered and see if it is valid. Isn't that how you look at "Zetatalk"? If so, then how do you accept any of it when all of the astronomical and most of the other claims about physically provable things are clearly false? Quoting: Menow 405501
You are just amazingly rude.
So I am to assume that even though they are i can see there dishonesty I still need to read their research .. you are in a fantasy land if you believe that will happen. |
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Menow
User ID: 405501
7/15/2009 9:34 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
I am interested in the concepts that Nancy has talked about, but I also do not stake my life the details. She is claiming to be translating a message. Things always get lost in the translation, but the fundamental intentions are what I am listing for. These have been taught thru the ages by very wise beings, and some of those lessons have been appearing in crop circles over the last couple of years.
This is all much bigger than zetatalk.
If it is so obvious that things always get lost in translation, then why don't Nancy or "Zetas" realize and admit that?
Telepathic communication is not verbal communication.
[ link to search.freefind.com]
Here is a repeat of my question. Try actually answering it:
If it is so obvious that things always get lost in translation, then why don't Nancy or "Zetas" realize and admit that? |
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DrPostman
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User ID: 51197
7/15/2009 9:35 PM
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No you don't. You look at what is offered and see if it is valid. Isn't that how you look at "Zetatalk"? If so, then how do you accept any of it when all of the astronomical and most of the other claims about physically provable things are clearly false?
You are just amazingly rude. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725512
What? Exactly what was rude about the post you quoted?
"I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 725512
7/15/2009 9:35 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
In zetatalk they make a mockery of mans science calling it a short sited cleverness.
Please be good enough to cite just one example of where
Zetatalk has made a mockery of human science.
Just one. Quoting: DrPostman
[link to zetatalk.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 725512
7/15/2009 9:37 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
It would be best if you just didn't speak at all.. this is a wasted post that makes no sense.
Ad hominem is the last resort of those who have lost a debate. Quoting: DrPostman
I am still here, and if this is a win or lose situation for you then power is your only motivation. |
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Free Store
User ID: 148384
7/15/2009 9:37 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
If Nancy is correct about planet x and the pole shift, the world will be wracked with winds more than 30 times stronger than hurricane Andrew or Katrina. The tidal wave would be at least 20 times larger than the Banda Aceh Tsunami. Nobody would survive, and even if you did, all the earth's fresh water would probably be salty and/or contaminated. Your shelter would probably be toast, and all of those provisions you bought would probably be washed or blown away. Agriculture would be impossible for years to come. Have you people ever stopped to think that most of the people that sell these doom scenarios urging you to prepare have interests in businesses that sell survival gear? Quoting: KeepingItReal
Gee didn't Noah and Moses survive and they didn't have the high tech knowledge we have today
Where I live is some of the oldest ground in the west
I can see from the past rock formations this area was protected pretty good.,.good ol' granite! |
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DrPostman
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User ID: 51197
7/15/2009 9:38 PM
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In zetatalk they make a mockery of mans science calling it a short sited cleverness.
Please be good enough to cite just one example of where
Zetatalk has made a mockery of human science.
Just one.
[ link to zetatalk.com]
That's nothing but a page full of word salads. I asked you to
provide a specific example of where Zetatalk has made a mockery
of human science. It seems that all you can do is cite
Nancy's pages instead of thinking for yourself. That's
very disappointed.
"I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears
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Menow
User ID: 405501
7/15/2009 9:38 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
I am set for a pole-shift,
No, you're not. The pole shift Nancy describes is not survivable.
That must be why she took the time to work up the safe locations pages on her site
[ link to www.zetatalk.com]
-sarcasm alert-
"Zetas" claim that Earth will stop and then turn 90 degrees in one hour. Not survivable. Period.
link please.
Also I am curious as to why this is not survivable?
Circumference of Earth: approx 24,000 miles.
90 degree turn equals approx 6,000 miles of surface motion.
6,000 miles in one hour equals, well, 6,000 miles per hour.
Wind generated by such rapid surface motion would scour Earth's surface clean of all Human life. |
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DrPostman
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User ID: 51197
7/15/2009 9:39 PM
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Ad hominem is the last resort of those who have lost a debate.
I am still here, and if this is a win or lose situation for you then power is your only motivation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725512
Now what are you going on about? I'm having a discussion but
you seem to be involved in something else. Care to elaborate?
"I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears
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Menow
User ID: 405501
7/15/2009 9:41 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
My point is that in order to look at your "dubunker" material I have to assume that the people posting it are on the up and up. That is an assumption that I am unwilling to make.
No you don't. You look at what is offered and see if it is valid. Isn't that how you look at "Zetatalk"? If so, then how do you accept any of it when all of the astronomical and most of the other claims about physically provable things are clearly false?
You are just amazingly rude. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725512
You are amazingly over-sensitive.
So I am to assume that even though they are Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725512
Sorry? WHAT "are"?
i can see there dishonesty I still need to read their research .. you are in a fantasy land if you believe that will happen. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725512
What will happen? You are not expressing yourself clearly. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 725512
7/15/2009 9:43 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
"Zetas" claim that Earth will stop and then turn 90 degrees in one hour. Not survivable. Period.
link please.
Also I am curious as to why this is not survivable?
Where do you think the rotational energy of the Earth would
go if it altered that dramatically? Quoting: DrPostman
how do you know their will be momentum?
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"Magnetic influences between planets are greater than humans imagine, because they use as their frame of reference objects on the surface." |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 725512
7/15/2009 9:44 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
That's nothing but a page full of word salads. I asked you to
provide a specific example of where Zetatalk has made a mockery
of human science. It seems that all you can do is cite
Nancy's pages instead of thinking for yourself. That's
very disappointed. Quoting: DrPostman
Seriously? Double speak in the same post .. A+ |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 725512
7/15/2009 9:46 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
I am set for a pole-shift,
No, you're not. The pole shift Nancy describes is not survivable.
That must be why she took the time to work up the safe locations pages on her site
[ link to www.zetatalk.com]
-sarcasm alert-
"Zetas" claim that Earth will stop and then turn 90 degrees in one hour. Not survivable. Period.
link please.
Also I am curious as to why this is not survivable?
Circumference of Earth: approx 24,000 miles.
90 degree turn equals approx 6,000 miles of surface motion.
6,000 miles in one hour equals, well, 6,000 miles per hour.
Wind generated by such rapid surface motion would scour Earth's surface clean of all Human life.
no link. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 725512
7/15/2009 9:47 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
Ad hominem is the last resort of those who have lost a debate.
I am still here, and if this is a win or lose situation for you then power is your only motivation.
Now what are you going on about? I'm having a discussion but
you seem to be involved in something else. Care to elaborate? Quoting: DrPostman
You need me to elaborate on "lost a debate" and how it relates to power.. sorry man ..but i have to give you more credit than that. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 725512
7/15/2009 9:49 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
My point is that in order to look at your "dubunker" material I have to assume that the people posting it are on the up and up. That is an assumption that I am unwilling to make.
No you don't. You look at what is offered and see if it is valid. Isn't that how you look at "Zetatalk"? If so, then how do you accept any of it when all of the astronomical and most of the other claims about physically provable things are clearly false?
You are just amazingly rude.
You are amazingly over-sensitive.
So I am to assume that even though they are
Sorry? WHAT "are"?
i can see there dishonesty I still need to read their research .. you are in a fantasy land if you believe that will happen.
What will happen? You are not expressing yourself clearly. Quoting: Menow 405501
I guess you where not keeping up. Scroll up and figure it out. |
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DrPostman
Forum Moderator
User ID: 51197
7/15/2009 9:49 PM
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That's nothing but a page full of word salads. I asked you to
provide a specific example of where Zetatalk has made a mockery
of human science. It seems that all you can do is cite
Nancy's pages instead of thinking for yourself. That's
very disappointed.
Seriously? Double speak in the same post .. A+ Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725512
So I was right. You can't cite a specific example of where
Zetatalk has made a mockery of human science.
Claiming that the Earth is halted in it's orbit is quite
enough of a self-mockery though.
how do you know their will be momentum? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725512
Inertia. You can't make it magically disappear.
"I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears
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KeepingItReal
User ID: 553451
7/15/2009 9:50 PM
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In zetatalk they make a mockery of mans science calling it a short sited cleverness.
Please be good enough to cite just one example of where
Zetatalk has made a mockery of human science.
Just one.
[ link to zetatalk.com]
That's nothing but a page full of word salads. I asked you to
provide a specific example of where Zetatalk has made a mockery
of human science. It seems that all you can do is cite
Nancy's pages instead of thinking for yourself. That's
very disappointed.
Mocking reason and science is not the same as making a mockery of science. Nancy and her crew mock anything that is provable and in the realm of common sense, but no matter how often you mock, the truth is the truth. You can mock those that paid attention in grade school science class, but that just makes you look all the more ignorant.
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