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DrPostman SubscriberModerator
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7/15/2009 9:51 PM
Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ...Quote

You need me to elaborate on "lost a debate" and how it relates to power.. sorry man ..but i have to give you more credit than that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725512


What does power have to do with having a discussion? Is that
how you feel about discussing topics on a web board? Is this
about ego for you? Please help me figure out where you are
coming from because you seem to be making a lot of assumptions
here.
"I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears

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Free Store
User ID: 148384
7/15/2009 9:56 PM
Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ...Quote

In zetatalk they make a mockery of mans science calling it a short sited cleverness.


Please be good enough to cite just one example of where
Zetatalk has made a mockery of human science.

Just one.

[link to zetatalk.com]


That's nothing but a page full of word salads. I asked you to
provide a specific example of where Zetatalk has made a mockery
of human science. It seems that all you can do is cite
Nancy's pages instead of thinking for yourself. That's
very disappointed.

Mocking reason and science is not the same as making a mockery of science. Nancy and her crew mock anything that is provable and in the realm of common sense, but no matter how often you mock, the truth is the truth. You can mock those that paid attention in grade school science class, but that just makes you look all the more ignorant.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal

Science doesn't hold all the answers

Is that regarded as mockery or fact?


chuckle
Menow
User ID: 405501
7/15/2009 10:00 PM
Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ...Quote

I am set for a pole-shift,

No, you're not. The pole shift Nancy describes is not survivable.

That must be why she took the time to work up the safe locations pages on her site
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

-sarcasm alert-


"Zetas" claim that Earth will stop and then turn 90 degrees in one hour. Not survivable. Period.

link please.

Also I am curious as to why this is not survivable?


Circumference of Earth: approx 24,000 miles.

90 degree turn equals approx 6,000 miles of surface motion.

6,000 miles in one hour equals, well, 6,000 miles per hour.

Wind generated by such rapid surface motion would scour Earth's surface clean of all Human life.

no link.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725512


You need a link to the Earth's circumference??
DrPostman SubscriberModerator
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7/15/2009 10:02 PM
Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ...Quote

Can anyone name a scientist who has ever claimed that
science knows all the answers? Or can we put away those
sorts of childish taunts and discuss this like grown ups?
"I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears

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Menow
User ID: 405501
7/15/2009 10:03 PM
Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ...Quote

My point is that in order to look at your "dubunker" material I have to assume that the people posting it are on the up and up. That is an assumption that I am unwilling to make.


No you don't. You look at what is offered and see if it is valid. Isn't that how you look at "Zetatalk"? If so, then how do you accept any of it when all of the astronomical and most of the other claims about physically provable things are clearly false?

You are just amazingly rude.


You are amazingly over-sensitive.


So I am to assume that even though they are


Sorry? WHAT "are"?


i can see there dishonesty I still need to read their research .. you are in a fantasy land if you believe that will happen.


What will happen? You are not expressing yourself clearly.

I guess you where not keeping up. Scroll up and figure it out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725512


I don't have to scroll up. Your post is right there. I quoted it.

I asked: Sorry? WHAT "are"? and: What will happen?

Why don't you explain what you meant?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 725512
7/15/2009 10:06 PM
Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ...Quote

That's nothing but a page full of word salads. I asked you to
provide a specific example of where Zetatalk has made a mockery
of human science. It seems that all you can do is cite
Nancy's pages instead of thinking for yourself. That's
very disappointed.


Seriously? Double speak in the same post .. A+


So I was right. You can't cite a specific example of where
Zetatalk has made a mockery of human science.

Claiming that the Earth is halted in it's orbit is quite
enough of a self-mockery though.





how do you know their will be momentum?


Inertia. You can't make it magically disappear.
 Quoting: DrPostman

If you insist on me repeating myself, I will be grateful for copy and past
how do you know their will be momentum?

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"Magnetic influences between planets are greater than humans imagine, because they use as their frame of reference objects on the surface."
DrPostman SubscriberModerator
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7/15/2009 10:06 PM
Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ...Quote

You need a link to the Earth's circumference??
 Quoting: Menow 405501


This might be what he's asking for, but I doubt it's what he
wants: [link to curious.astro.cornell.edu]
"I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 725512
7/15/2009 10:08 PM
Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ...Quote

I am set for a pole-shift,

No, you're not. The pole shift Nancy describes is not survivable.

That must be why she took the time to work up the safe locations pages on her site
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

-sarcasm alert-


"Zetas" claim that Earth will stop and then turn 90 degrees in one hour. Not survivable. Period.

link please.

Also I am curious as to why this is not survivable?


Circumference of Earth: approx 24,000 miles.

90 degree turn equals approx 6,000 miles of surface motion.

6,000 miles in one hour equals, well, 6,000 miles per hour.

Wind generated by such rapid surface motion would scour Earth's surface clean of all Human life.

no link.


You need a link to the Earth's circumference??
 Quoting: Menow 405501

You said zetas claim without a link, I want to see the claim.
DrPostman SubscriberModerator
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User ID: 51197
7/15/2009 10:09 PM
Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ...Quote

"Magnetic influences between planets are greater than humans imagine, because they use as their frame of reference objects on the surface."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725512


Magnetism has nothing to do with momentum on the Earth unless
the object is subject to magnetic influences, and even then
the energy of the object would have to go somewhere. Where
do you think it goes?

Why are you posting a link to posting a reply?
"I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears

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Menow
User ID: 405501
7/15/2009 10:12 PM
Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ...Quote

Perhaps you wanted a link to Nancy's claim of 90 degrees in one hour?

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

3 days of darkness, 6 day of sunrise West, then rotation stopping and a horrific pole shift where we tip. Our crust moves 90 degrees, a horrible hour of pole shifting . All this is on my website, read the Pole Shift section first.
Menow
User ID: 405501
7/15/2009 10:13 PM
Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ...Quote

You said zetas claim without a link, I want to see the claim.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725512


[link to www.zetatalk.com]

3 days of darkness, 6 day of sunrise West, then rotation stopping and a horrific pole shift where we tip. Our crust moves 90 degrees, a horrible hour of pole shifting . All this is on my website, read the Pole Shift section first.
DrPostman SubscriberModerator
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7/15/2009 10:14 PM
Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ...Quote

I want to see an explanation of how the conservation of
angular momentum would cease to apply.
"I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears

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Menow
User ID: 405501
7/15/2009 10:14 PM
Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ...Quote

You said zetas claim without a link, I want to see the claim.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725512


Now. How about you answer MY question?

Here is a repeat of my question. Try actually answering it:

If it is so obvious that things always get lost in translation, then why don't Nancy or "Zetas" realize and admit that?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 725512
7/15/2009 10:16 PM
Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ...Quote

You need me to elaborate on "lost a debate" and how it relates to power.. sorry man ..but i have to give you more credit than that.


What does power have to do with having a discussion? Is that
how you feel about discussing topics on a web board? Is this
about ego for you? Please help me figure out where you are
coming from because you seem to be making a lot of assumptions
here.
 Quoting: DrPostman

NICE! .. so you are bringing up how this is a debate that I am losing and then question why I am talking about power.

Where am I coming from? .. I think debunkers are a complete mess. What purpose does debunking serve, and why do you all spend so much time on it?
DrPostman SubscriberModerator
Forum Moderator
User ID: 51197
7/15/2009 10:21 PM
Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ...Quote

You need me to elaborate on "lost a debate" and how it relates to power.. sorry man ..but i have to give you more credit than that.

What does power have to do with having a discussion? Is that
how you feel about discussing topics on a web board? Is this
about ego for you? Please help me figure out where you are
coming from because you seem to be making a lot of assumptions
here.


NICE! .. so you are bringing up how this is a debate that I am losing and then question why I am talking about power.
Where am I coming from? .. I think debunkers are a complete mess. What purpose does debunking serve, and why do you all spend so much time on it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725512


No, I mentioned how this was a discussion. You keep harping
on this debate stuff. Sorry you are losing it but I'm here to
discuss. No win or loss as far as I'm concerned. I learn
more about science when having discussions like this. I end
up doing searches on the topic to insure that I understand the
point I am trying to make and I always learn more. It is
important for me to keep learning. You can think what you like
about debunkers but the facts are on our side. The testable
repeatable and reproducible science is on our side. I am not
the least bit ashamed to expose bunk for what it is.

Lord Keynes famously said, "When the facts change, I change
my mind. What do you do, sir?"
"I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 725512
7/15/2009 10:23 PM
Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ...Quote

"Magnetic influences between planets are greater than humans imagine, because they use as their frame of reference objects on the surface."


Magnetism has nothing to do with momentum on the Earth unless
the object is subject to magnetic influences
, and even then
the energy of the object would have to go somewhere. Where
do you think it goes?

Why are you posting a link to posting a reply?
 Quoting: DrPostman

The Earth is a magnet, so magnetic fields are relevant, and are at play when dealing with momentum.

Why the question? I know you are aware of source links.
DrPostman SubscriberModerator
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User ID: 51197
7/15/2009 10:24 PM
Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ...Quote

The Earth is a magnet, so magnetic fields are relevant, and are at play when dealing with momentum.

Why the question? I know you are aware of source links.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725512


Not everything on the Earth is effected by magnetism. How
do you do away with conservation of angular momentum?

The link you posted is to a reply that has already been posted.

Last Edited by DrPostman on 7/15/2009 at 10:24 PM
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be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 726589
7/15/2009 10:26 PM
Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ...Quote

Science doesn't hold all the answers
 Quoting: Free Store 148384


But ZetaTalk holds NONE!

chuckle
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 725512
7/15/2009 10:34 PM
Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ...Quote

Perhaps you wanted a link to Nancy's claim of 90 degrees in one hour?

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

3 days of darkness, 6 day of sunrise West, then rotation stopping and a horrific pole shift where we tip. Our crust moves 90 degrees, a horrible hour of pole shifting . All this is on my website, read the Pole Shift section first.
 Quoting: Menow 405501

Thank you.

I also found this.
"Plants survive as they are rooted and their seeds are everywhere, and animals including man survive because they travel with the moving plates of the Earth and experience no more severe a shock when the plates stop moving than they would during a Richter 9 earthquake. Where mountain building occurs when the plates stop moving, the stoppage is not simply a sudden jolt, like a car hitting a brick wall. All is in motion, and the stoppage is more like a car hitting a barrier of sand filled plastic barrels - a series of small jolts, occurring in quick succession."
[link to zetatalk.com]

So the momentum according to zetatalk with disburse in some rather unfortunate areas.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 726589
7/15/2009 10:37 PM
Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ...Quote

Perhaps you wanted a link to Nancy's claim of 90 degrees in one hour?

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

3 days of darkness, 6 day of sunrise West, then rotation stopping and a horrific pole shift where we tip. Our crust moves 90 degrees, a horrible hour of pole shifting . All this is on my website, read the Pole Shift section first.

Thank you.

I also found this.
"Plants survive as they are rooted and their seeds are everywhere, and animals including man survive because they travel with the moving plates of the Earth and experience no more severe a shock when the plates stop moving than they would during a Richter 9 earthquake. Where mountain building occurs when the plates stop moving, the stoppage is not simply a sudden jolt, like a car hitting a brick wall. All is in motion, and the stoppage is more like a car hitting a barrier of sand filled plastic barrels - a series of small jolts, occurring in quick succession."
[link to zetatalk.com]

So the momentum according to zetatalk with disburse in some rather unfortunate areas.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725512


ZetaTalk's absurdly simplistic (and WRONG!) 'scientific explanations' are hilarious. Only the brain-dead find them anything other than laughable. It all shows just how little Nancy grasps basic science, and is yet more proof that ZetaTalk is baloney.
Menow
User ID: 405501
7/15/2009 10:40 PM
Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ...Quote

You need me to elaborate on "lost a debate" and how it relates to power.. sorry man ..but i have to give you more credit than that.


What does power have to do with having a discussion? Is that
how you feel about discussing topics on a web board? Is this
about ego for you? Please help me figure out where you are
coming from because you seem to be making a lot of assumptions
here.

NICE! .. so you are bringing up how this is a debate that I am losing and then question why I am talking about power.

Where am I coming from? .. I think debunkers are a complete mess. What purpose does debunking serve, and why do you all spend so much time on it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725512


Actually, he said that you were ACTING like someone who is losing a debate. YOU are the one behaving as if you are losing power. Get it?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 726589
7/15/2009 10:41 PM
Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ...Quote

Where am I coming from? .. I think debunkers are a complete mess. What purpose does debunking serve, and why do you all spend so much time on it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725512


Debunking CRAP is always worthwhile.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 726589
7/15/2009 10:43 PM
Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ...Quote

Where am I coming from? .. I think debunkers are a complete mess. What purpose does debunking serve, and why do you all spend so much time on it?


Debunking CRAP is always worthwhile.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 726589


In fact, I would deeply distrust anyone who thought it wasn't.
Menow
User ID: 405501
7/15/2009 10:43 PM
Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ...Quote

Perhaps you wanted a link to Nancy's claim of 90 degrees in one hour?

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

3 days of darkness, 6 day of sunrise West, then rotation stopping and a horrific pole shift where we tip. Our crust moves 90 degrees, a horrible hour of pole shifting . All this is on my website, read the Pole Shift section first.

Thank you.

I also found this.
"Plants survive as they are rooted and their seeds are everywhere, and animals including man survive because they travel with the moving plates of the Earth and experience no more severe a shock when the plates stop moving than they would during a Richter 9 earthquake. Where mountain building occurs when the plates stop moving, the stoppage is not simply a sudden jolt, like a car hitting a brick wall. All is in motion, and the stoppage is more like a car hitting a barrier of sand filled plastic barrels - a series of small jolts, occurring in quick succession."
[link to zetatalk.com]

So the momentum according to zetatalk with disburse in some rather unfortunate areas.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725512


My point was not about momentum. It was about wind speed. Care to respond now that you know Nancy and "Zetas" do make the claim of 90 degree shift in one hour?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 725512
7/15/2009 10:45 PM
Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ...Quote

You said zetas claim without a link, I want to see the claim.


Now. How about you answer MY question?

Here is a repeat of my question. Try actually answering it:

If it is so obvious that things always get lost in translation, then why don't Nancy or "Zetas" realize and admit that?
 Quoting: Menow 405501

You are asking me to put words in the mouths of Nancey and the Zetas. I can not do that.
Menow
User ID: 405501
7/15/2009 10:47 PM
Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ...Quote

Perhaps you wanted a link to Nancy's claim of 90 degrees in one hour?

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

3 days of darkness, 6 day of sunrise West, then rotation stopping and a horrific pole shift where we tip. Our crust moves 90 degrees, a horrible hour of pole shifting . All this is on my website, read the Pole Shift section first.

Thank you.

I also found this.
"Plants survive as they are rooted and their seeds are everywhere, and animals including man survive because they travel with the moving plates of the Earth and experience no more severe a shock when the plates stop moving than they would during a Richter 9 earthquake.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725512


By the way. Nancy ORIGINALLY claimed that there would be richter 15 earthquakes, worldwide, during the shift. She changed her claim after it was pointed out to her what energy was involved in such a thing.


Where mountain building occurs when the plates stop moving, the stoppage is not simply a sudden jolt, like a car hitting a brick wall. All is in motion, and the stoppage is more like a car hitting a barrier of sand filled plastic barrels - a series of small jolts, occurring in quick succession."
[link to zetatalk.com]

So the momentum according to zetatalk with disburse in some rather unfortunate areas.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725512


You're welcome.

Now. How about you answer MY question?

Here is a repeat of my question. Try actually answering it:

If it is so obvious that things always get lost in translation, then why don't Nancy or "Zetas" realize and admit that?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 725512
7/15/2009 10:49 PM
Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ...Quote

You need me to elaborate on "lost a debate" and how it relates to power.. sorry man ..but i have to give you more credit than that.

What does power have to do with having a discussion? Is that
how you feel about discussing topics on a web board? Is this
about ego for you? Please help me figure out where you are
coming from because you seem to be making a lot of assumptions
here.


NICE! .. so you are bringing up how this is a debate that I am losing and then question why I am talking about power.
Where am I coming from? .. I think debunkers are a complete mess. What purpose does debunking serve, and why do you all spend so much time on it?


No, I mentioned how this was a discussion. You keep harping
on this debate stuff. Sorry you are losing it but I'm here to
discuss. No win or loss as far as I'm concerned. I learn
more about science when having discussions like this. I end
up doing searches on the topic to insure that I understand the
point I am trying to make and I always learn more. It is
important for me to keep learning.
You can think what you like
about debunkers but the facts are on our side. The testable
repeatable and reproducible science is on our side. I am not
the least bit ashamed to expose bunk for what it is.

Lord Keynes famously said, "When the facts change, I change
my mind. What do you do, sir?"
 Quoting: DrPostman

Great answer.

I also like the when facts change part.
I think this is why we end up on the same board. I think our main difference is that you feel a need to make a decision .. but leave room for it to change. I see no pressure to make the decision in the first place.
This is speculation of course.
Menow
User ID: 405501
7/15/2009 10:50 PM
Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ...Quote

You said zetas claim without a link, I want to see the claim.


Now. How about you answer MY question?

Here is a repeat of my question. Try actually answering it:

If it is so obvious that things always get lost in translation, then why don't Nancy or "Zetas" realize and admit that?

You are asking me to put words in the mouths of Nancey and the Zetas. I can not do that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725512


I am doing no such thing. I am asking you to consider the implicaion you gave before. If YOU are aware that "things always get lost in translation", then why isn't Nancy? Why does Nancy DENY any such losses? Do YOU know more than NANCY about this?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 725512
7/15/2009 10:51 PM
Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ...Quote

The Earth is a magnet, so magnetic fields are relevant, and are at play when dealing with momentum.

Why the question? I know you are aware of source links.


Not everything on the Earth is effected by magnetism. How
do you do away with conservation of angular momentum?

The link you posted is to a reply that has already been posted.
 Quoting: DrPostman
Seems the answer to that is the whole mountain building part of the pole shift.
Menow
User ID: 405501
7/15/2009 10:52 PM
Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ...Quote

You need me to elaborate on "lost a debate" and how it relates to power.. sorry man ..but i have to give you more credit than that.

What does power have to do with having a discussion? Is that
how you feel about discussing topics on a web board? Is this
about ego for you? Please help me figure out where you are
coming from because you seem to be making a lot of assumptions
here.


NICE! .. so you are bringing up how this is a debate that I am losing and then question why I am talking about power.
Where am I coming from? .. I think debunkers are a complete mess. What purpose does debunking serve, and why do you all spend so much time on it?


No, I mentioned how this was a discussion. You keep harping
on this debate stuff. Sorry you are losing it but I'm here to
discuss. No win or loss as far as I'm concerned. I learn
more about science when having discussions like this. I end
up doing searches on the topic to insure that I understand the
point I am trying to make and I always learn more. It is
important for me to keep learning.
You can think what you like
about debunkers but the facts are on our side. The testable
repeatable and reproducible science is on our side. I am not
the least bit ashamed to expose bunk for what it is.

Lord Keynes famously said, "When the facts change, I change
my mind. What do you do, sir?"

Great answer.

I also like the when facts change part.
I think this is why we end up on the same board. I think our main difference is that you feel a need to make a decision .. but leave room for it to change. I see no pressure to make the decision in the first place.
This is speculation of course.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725512


Considering the things Nancy says you should do if she is right... move away from the city, etc, etc, etc, etc.... how can you advocate not deciding if she is right?
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