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What I make my mind up on is nobody's business, that's the point. Who are you to try to influence me or anyone else? Who are you to point out to me or anyone else what is "real"? I bet your own backyard of life is royally fucked up - but unlike Nancy's situation which is transparent and thus easy for jackals like you to savage, we'll never know exactly who you are and why anyone should heed your words.
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Why do people who promote the idea of PX not attract your ire? Don't they, also, try to influence others thinking? Why is it OK for them, but not for people with a different opinion than them?
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Just as we thought - a bunch of boring chickenshit nobodies. Nancy rules.
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Can you tell me what Nancy has gotten right, or why I can't see "Planet X" [with my eyes, or with my camera]?
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Here is your opportunity to get on stage. I'm not presenting myself as a reality expert trying to persuade others what to believe and not believe. You are. Now, again, tell us why we should listen to you. No adolescent put-downs, no cutesy animations - here is where you lay it bare like Nancy has, and let us judge YOU for who and what you are.

We're waiting...
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Just as we thought - a bunch of boring chickenshit nobodies. Nancy rules.

Can you tell me what Nancy has gotten right, or why I can't see "Planet X" [with my eyes, or with my camera]?
 Quoting: Burning Beard



ummm umm your not using the "nancy lieder new and improved Planet X Camera Filters(only to be used on cell phones)."

ummm, your not taking your pictures at the right time...like at ...err...the very precise minute at sunrise or um sunset....wait it's also cuz the sun it's too far north and the moon isn't where it's supposed to be. but wait, it might be lost in the glare of Jupiters ignition(oops that candance)....ummm wait, it's cuz the sun is no longer yellow, it's white. and the chemtrails are blocking everything out at the time they spray.....and the NWO..oh hell.. I dunno. maybe cuz it's not there chuckle
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Here is your opportunity to get on stage. I'm not presenting myself as a reality expert trying to persuade others what to believe and not believe. You are. Now, again, tell us why we should listen to you. No adolescent put-downs, no cutesy animations - here is where you lay it bare like Nancy has, and let us judge YOU for who and what you are.

We're waiting...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 619284

Because we present questions in search for the truth that the members of Zeta Talk refuse to answer. I'm sure if anybody here saw "Planet X" with their own eyes, they wouldn't be a "debunker"; but, constant failure on the planet showing up has made many believe that she's full of it. How is that hard to understand?

I'm sure a lot of us aren't against Nancy as a person. We're against the fact that she's stringing all of you along.
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Here is your opportunity to get on stage. I'm not presenting myself as a reality expert trying to persuade others what to believe and not believe. You are. Now, again, tell us why we should listen to you. No adolescent put-downs, no cutesy animations - here is where you lay it bare like Nancy has, and let us judge YOU for who and what you are.

We're waiting...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 619284


I'm waiting for you to quote somebody or something specific and put forth a specific point of question or discussion.

As to why you should listen to any specific person, I would suggest you analyze what they have to offer.

One one hand, you have Nancy Lieder saying that Earth is halted in orbit.

On the other hand, you have people with astronomical expertise showing you, quite explicitly, how you can know that Earth is exactly where it belongs in its normal orbit.

Now... Whom do you choose to believe, and why?
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What I make my mind up on is nobody's business, that's the point. Who are you to try to influence me or anyone else? Who are you to point out to me or anyone else what is "real"? I bet your own backyard of life is royally fucked up - but unlike Nancy's situation which is transparent and thus easy for jackals like you to savage, we'll never know exactly who you are and why anyone should heed your words.


Why do people who promote the idea of PX not attract your ire? Don't they, also, try to influence others thinking? Why is it OK for them, but not for people with a different opinion than them?
 Quoting: Menow 405501


Excellent thought. Here you go.

Nancy (Zetas?) present an idea. This is sometimes rebutted by opposing facts as best as others can present them, which is wonderful and valuable. No one is perfect, so a rebuttal with the tools and abilities one has, even if not eloquently put or exhaustively researched, is brave and good. Most often, though, the responses to Nancy's postings are comprised of snarky school-yard put downs, vicious personal attacks, swamping her messages with voluminous vapid postings, and proclamations that, in a nutshell, condemn and ridicule the intellect and sanity of anyone who accepts Nancy's position with blind faith and ALSO anyone who wants to make up their own mind by considering all the arguments presented.

So, I want to know the credentials of members of the latter group, who appear to outnumber the folks who try legitimate respectful arguments to Nancy. It's not enough to disrupt, put down, overwhelm, and attack the person not the idea. These are inane sandbox bully level tactics, and sway no adult on this forum. You are more than this? Then reveal who you are and convince us why we should pay any heed at all to Nancy's most vociferous critics.
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Just as we thought - a bunch of boring chickenshit nobodies. Nancy rules.

Can you tell me what Nancy has gotten right, or why I can't see "Planet X" [with my eyes, or with my camera]?
 Quoting: Burning Beard

Try the glp search and ask them OPs how and go to you tube and see their technics and try the internet Planet X sites and ask those people

I hope that helps
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Excellent thought. Here you go.

Nancy (Zetas?) present an idea. This is sometimes rebutted by opposing facts as best as others can present them, which is wonderful and valuable. No one is perfect, so a rebuttal with the tools and abilities one has, even if not eloquently put or exhaustively researched, is brave and good. Most often, though, the responses to Nancy's postings are comprised of snarky school-yard put downs, vicious personal attacks, swamping her messages with voluminous vapid postings, and proclamations that, in a nutshell, condemn and ridicule the intellect and sanity of anyone who accepts Nancy's position with blind faith and ALSO anyone who wants to make up their own mind by considering all the arguments presented.

So, I want to know the credentials of members of the latter group, who appear to outnumber the folks who try legitimate respectful arguments to Nancy. It's not enough to disrupt, put down, overwhelm, and attack the person not the idea. These are inane sandbox bully level tactics, and sway no adult on this forum. You are more than this? Then reveal who you are and convince us why we should pay any heed at all to Nancy's most vociferous critics.
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And yet, when asked a question about whether you believe Nancy's claim tha Earth is halted in orbit, you respond with snarky school-yard put downs, vicious personal attacks, and proclamations that, in a nutshell, condemn and ridicule the intellect and sanity of anyone who rejects Nancy's position with evidence and ALSO anyone who wants to make up their own mind by considering all the contrary evidence presented.

That's precisely what you just did, and you avoided the question, to boot.
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Excellent thought. Here you go.

Nancy (Zetas?) present an idea. This is sometimes rebutted by opposing facts as best as others can present them, which is wonderful and valuable. No one is perfect, so a rebuttal with the tools and abilities one has, even if not eloquently put or exhaustively researched, is brave and good. Most often, though, the responses to Nancy's postings are comprised of snarky school-yard put downs, vicious personal attacks, swamping her messages with voluminous vapid postings, and proclamations that, in a nutshell, condemn and ridicule the intellect and sanity of anyone who accepts Nancy's position with blind faith and ALSO anyone who wants to make up their own mind by considering all the arguments presented.

So, I want to know the credentials of members of the latter group, who appear to outnumber the folks who try legitimate respectful arguments to Nancy. It's not enough to disrupt, put down, overwhelm, and attack the person not the idea. These are inane sandbox bully level tactics, and sway no adult on this forum. You are more than this? Then reveal who you are and convince us why we should pay any heed at all to Nancy's most vociferous critics.



And yet, when asked a question about whether you believe Nancy's claim tha Earth is halted in orbit, you respond with snarky school-yard put downs, vicious personal attacks, and proclamations that, in a nutshell, condemn and ridicule the intellect and sanity of anyone who rejects Nancy's position with evidence and ALSO anyone who wants to make up their own mind by considering all the contrary evidence presented.

That's precisely what you just did, and you avoided the question, to boot.
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That's how you debate? Pop up a random question that's out of context with my thread, and quote me against me? I'm off to bed, you've bored me to tears.
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What I make my mind up on is nobody's business, that's the point. Who are you to try to influence me or anyone else? Who are you to point out to me or anyone else what is "real"? I bet your own backyard of life is royally fucked up - but unlike Nancy's situation which is transparent and thus easy for jackals like you to savage, we'll never know exactly who you are and why anyone should heed your words.


Why do people who promote the idea of PX not attract your ire? Don't they, also, try to influence others thinking? Why is it OK for them, but not for people with a different opinion than them?


Excellent thought. Here you go.

Nancy (Zetas?) present an idea. This is sometimes rebutted by opposing facts as best as others can present them, which is wonderful and valuable. No one is perfect, so a rebuttal with the tools and abilities one has, even if not eloquently put or exhaustively researched, is brave and good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 619284


This has been done literally thousands of times.


Most often, though, the responses to Nancy's postings are comprised of snarky school-yard put downs, vicious personal attacks, swamping her messages with voluminous vapid postings, and proclamations that, in a nutshell, condemn and ridicule the intellect and sanity of anyone who accepts Nancy's position with blind faith and ALSO anyone who wants to make up their own mind by considering all the arguments presented.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 619284


Wrong. That attitude only developed AFTER rational arguments were rejected over and over and over again and those offering the arguements called "paid shills" for their trouble.

So, I want to know the credentials of members of the latter group, who appear to outnumber the folks who try legitimate respectful arguments to Nancy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 619284


They are one and the same. ALL of us have attempted to offer respectfull arguments to Nancy. ALL of us have been insulted and attacked for the effort.

It's not enough to disrupt, put down, overwhelm, and attack the person not the idea.
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Then why are debunkers treated that way, with no objection from the likes of you?

These are inane sandbox bully level tactics, and sway no adult on this forum. You are more than this? Then reveal who you are and convince us why we should pay any heed at all to Nancy's most vociferous critics.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 619284


You must be new to this. I guess you weren't around when Nancy attacked people to the point of libel and called certain of her detractors "pimp" and whore and the like on the live IRC chat. Nancy once told the chat audience that I was telling someone NOT to look at her coordinates in the sky. That was a bald-faced lie. Nancy has EARNED the way she is treated. She has BEGGED for it! Get a clue.
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Excellent thought. Here you go.

Nancy (Zetas?) present an idea. This is sometimes rebutted by opposing facts as best as others can present them, which is wonderful and valuable. No one is perfect, so a rebuttal with the tools and abilities one has, even if not eloquently put or exhaustively researched, is brave and good. Most often, though, the responses to Nancy's postings are comprised of snarky school-yard put downs, vicious personal attacks, swamping her messages with voluminous vapid postings, and proclamations that, in a nutshell, condemn and ridicule the intellect and sanity of anyone who accepts Nancy's position with blind faith and ALSO anyone who wants to make up their own mind by considering all the arguments presented.

So, I want to know the credentials of members of the latter group, who appear to outnumber the folks who try legitimate respectful arguments to Nancy. It's not enough to disrupt, put down, overwhelm, and attack the person not the idea. These are inane sandbox bully level tactics, and sway no adult on this forum. You are more than this? Then reveal who you are and convince us why we should pay any heed at all to Nancy's most vociferous critics.



And yet, when asked a question about whether you believe Nancy's claim tha Earth is halted in orbit, you respond with snarky school-yard put downs, vicious personal attacks, and proclamations that, in a nutshell, condemn and ridicule the intellect and sanity of anyone who rejects Nancy's position with evidence and ALSO anyone who wants to make up their own mind by considering all the contrary evidence presented.

That's precisely what you just did, and you avoided the question, to boot.


That's how you debate? Pop up a random question that's out of context with my thread, and quote me against me? I'm off to bed, you've bored me to tears.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 619284


You asked why you should believe any specific person. I gave that as an example. You dodged it, and now call it "out of context". What a laugh. I could have cited any of a hundred other examples of Nancy's false astronomical claims. Why is that NOT an appropriate topic for why you should/should not believe her, or anyone else?
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Here is your opportunity to get on stage. I'm not presenting myself as a reality expert trying to persuade others what to believe and not believe. You are. Now, again, tell us why we should listen to you. No adolescent put-downs, no cutesy animations - here is where you lay it bare like Nancy has, and let us judge YOU for who and what you are.

We're waiting...
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Simple...name one single astronomical claim or prediction from all of ZT that has actually come true. Just one will do. Of course you'll also have to provide supporting evidence NOT from ZT.

Can't do it?

Case closed.
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Give it up... Zetatalk was placed there as the prediction..duh
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Anyways hot head the post was not for you
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Anyways hot head the post was not for you
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I answered it anyway. Notice I did not call you names or respond in a sarcastic manner. And yet you did. Why? Is it because that's the only way you know how?
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Give it up... Zetatalk was placed there as the prediction..duh
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Give it up...the predictions never happened.
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well if the word "hot head" upsets you then you are pretty sensitive

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Whatever you say, Free Store.

All I can tell you is six years have passed. "Planet X" is still a no show. Nancy said "2012 is too far out." We're getting closer and closer with each passing month...and "Planet X" is still a no show. After six years of sitting by the sun, there should have been at least one believer who could have provided verifiable evidence of its existence and put this matter to rest. And yet, none of them have. Heck, none of them have even tried.

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Well now you know what the word "soon" means
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Well now you know what the word "soon" means
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Not really, because Nancy and her crowd have been using it for over six years. And you all will continue using it once Nancy comes up with another "white lie" to explain why nothing happened.
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Well now you know what the word "soon" means
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You mean like what she said in 2003?

"It has been noted, during the agony of the date not known, that the Retrograde orbit of Planet X and the regular orbit of Earth would cause these planets to pass, given the passage of time. Indeed, as of the date of this writing, Planet X is well at the point where it is likely to be past standing between the Sun and Earth, a situation we have described as key to rotation stoppage and the shift. Does this mean that stoppage and the shift are immediate? As we stated on July 20, during the Lou Gentile show, days or weeks, not months, would pass [see White Lie explanation re 2003], so obviously the date is close. However, the exact date cannot be surmised by the position of Earth and Planet X vs a vs the Sun and each other, for the following reasons:

[link to www.zetatalk.com]
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So, what is the main point? The main point is that there is presently a more dynamic interaction between STO Alients and some human beings.

On the other hand, UFO or Alien abduction is real ! And if one is awaken at night, it might be very weird and scary.
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Well now you know what the word "soon" means


You mean like what she said in 2003?

"It has been noted, during the agony of the date not known, that the Retrograde orbit of Planet X and the regular orbit of Earth would cause these planets to pass, given the passage of time. Indeed, as of the date of this writing, Planet X is well at the point where it is likely to be past standing between the Sun and Earth, a situation we have described as key to rotation stoppage and the shift. Does this mean that stoppage and the shift are immediate? As we stated on July 20, during the Lou Gentile show, days or weeks, not months, would pass [see White Lie explanation re 2003], so obviously the date is close. However, the exact date cannot be surmised by the position of Earth and Planet X vs a vs the Sun and each other, for the following reasons:

[link to www.zetatalk.com]
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Reason given worked...didn't it?

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Well now you know what the word "soon" means


You mean like what she said in 2003?

"It has been noted, during the agony of the date not known, that the Retrograde orbit of Planet X and the regular orbit of Earth would cause these planets to pass, given the passage of time. Indeed, as of the date of this writing, Planet X is well at the point where it is likely to be past standing between the Sun and Earth, a situation we have described as key to rotation stoppage and the shift. Does this mean that stoppage and the shift are immediate? As we stated on July 20, during the Lou Gentile show, days or weeks, not months, would pass [see White Lie explanation re 2003], so obviously the date is close. However, the exact date cannot be surmised by the position of Earth and Planet X vs a vs the Sun and each other, for the following reasons:

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Reason given worked...didn't it?

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For once you're right - Nancy (Zetas) = FAIL!
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Hi.
Quick question.
Is this Nancy person generating any income(however little) from her 'Zeta' activities, yes or no?
Does her website have a 'for entertainment' disclaimer, yes or no?
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Hi.
Quick question.
Is this Nancy person generating any income(however little) from her 'Zeta' activities, yes or no?
Does her website have a 'for entertainment' disclaimer, yes or no?
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According to some of her minutes there is a small income from sales of DVD, books, and some Donations, they are in a Non-profit status, so I am assuming that most of the money goes back into these alleged projects they had in motion, and to pay for the running of the website.

Income yes, however, it's difficult to say weather "profit" is being made without them releasing their financial records out to those that request it.

And her disclaimer is here:
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

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Hi.
Quick question.
Is this Nancy person generating any income(however little) from her 'Zeta' activities, yes or no?
Does her website have a 'for entertainment' disclaimer, yes or no?



According to some of her minutes there is a small income from sales of DVD, books, and some Donations, they are in a Non-profit status, so I am assuming that most of the money goes back into these alleged projects they had in motion, and to pay for the running of the website.

Income yes, however, it's difficult to say weather "profit" is being made without them releasing their financial records out to those that request it.
 Quoting: Mysterysoul


Good enough, thank you.

I'll be back...
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It took them a decade, but the halfwit debunkers finally realized that all the spewing they did on Nancy's threads had only one effect: to keep them alive so that everyone got a chance to read them. LOL! So, they came up with this new idea recently of starting their own Zetatalk debunker threads, and then bumping them for page after page. But, of course, they are the only ones posting their so the threads are just these inane rah-rah sessions that go something like this:

Debunker A: That Nancy sure is an idiot, and a bad person, too. I bet she is really rich from Zetatalk.

Debunker B: Yeah, Debunker A, you are so right. We alone in the debunker camp are smart and all scientific and stuff, so people should believe us a lot.

Debunker C: PXers really make me mad and that's why I call them names, cuz I care about them and wish they wouldn't throw their lives away.

Debunker A: I guess it's my turn again. ... Okay, well, let's see. Where is their evidence? We have lots of evidence, but they don't.

Debunker B: Evidence is scientific, but them guys just don't get it, so we have to swear at them a lot.

Debunker C: I was gonna say that.

What can a little old PXer say except: "Obsess much?"

Soledad

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if you'd actually take time to RESEARCH , you'd understand that the zetas were slaves and here to eat us.Now when some lost soul come up and says that she listen to the zetas because they are good n nice , i can only be sad for her , many would like to help her get out of this hole but they stroke her ego so she doesnt see the hole at all... she will eventualy , she will be ashamed too. But this shall past and we'll all live in harmony and be happy :)
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Reason given worked...didn't it?

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And what reason was that? "Planet X" didn't show up.


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