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| Free Store 
User ID: 148384
6/17/2009 2:20 AM
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Well now you know what the word "soon" means
You mean like what she said in 2003?
"It has been noted, during the agony of the date not known, that the Retrograde orbit of Planet X and the regular orbit of Earth would cause these planets to pass, given the passage of time. Indeed, as of the date of this writing, Planet X is well at the point where it is likely to be past standing between the Sun and Earth, a situation we have described as key to rotation stoppage and the shift. Does this mean that stoppage and the shift are immediate? As we stated on July 20, during the Lou Gentile show, days or weeks, not months, would pass [see White Lie explanation re 2003], so obviously the date is close. However, the exact date cannot be surmised by the position of Earth and Planet X vs a vs the Sun and each other, for the following reasons:
[ link to www.zetatalk.com]
Reason given worked...didn't it?
"do geese see god?"
"... lol, do your eyes need proof that they can see for to be able to see? "
gooderboy |
| DrPostman 
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User ID: 51197
6/17/2009 4:07 AM
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That's how you debate? Pop up a random question that's out of context with my thread, and quote me against me? I'm off to bed, you've bored me to tears. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 619284
Tacit admission that you don't believe that the Earth is
halted in it's orbit so noted.
Well now you know what the word "soon" means
Not really, because Nancy and her crowd have been using it for over six years. And you all will continue using it once Nancy comes up with another "white lie" to explain why nothing happened. Quoting: Circuit Breaker
Hell, "soon" has become such a cliche on GLP that almost no
one uses it because they know they will be ridiculed over all
the many thousands of "soon" that never happened.
"I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
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killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 704654
6/17/2009 8:29 AM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
Well now you know what the word "soon" means
You mean like what she said in 2003?
"It has been noted, during the agony of the date not known, that the Retrograde orbit of Planet X and the regular orbit of Earth would cause these planets to pass, given the passage of time. Indeed, as of the date of this writing, Planet X is well at the point where it is likely to be past standing between the Sun and Earth, a situation we have described as key to rotation stoppage and the shift. Does this mean that stoppage and the shift are immediate? As we stated on July 20, during the Lou Gentile show, days or weeks, not months, would pass [see White Lie explanation re 2003], so obviously the date is close. However, the exact date cannot be surmised by the position of Earth and Planet X vs a vs the Sun and each other, for the following reasons:
[ link to www.zetatalk.com]
Reason given worked...didn't it?
:gtok.s:
For once you're right - Nancy (Zetas) = FAIL! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 88145
6/17/2009 8:37 AM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
Simple...name one single astronomical claim or prediction from all of ZT that has actually come true. Just one will do. Of course you'll also have to provide supporting evidence NOT from ZT.
Can't do it?
Case closed.
Solar Opportunists
[ link to www.zetatalk.com]
Planet X, and its presence between the Earth and the Sun, is not causing additional solar activity. The only additional activity is in reporting, and this is by design.
NASA Study Shows Sun Responsible for Planet Warming
[ link to www.dakotavoice.com]
From DailyTech, we have still more evidence that any warming occurring on planet earth is coming from natural sources and is cyclic in nature–NOT from the evil capitalism that Al Gore, the UN politicians at the IPCC and other socialists love to blame.
[ link to www.washingtonpost.com]
Humans Faulted for Global Warming
International Panel of Climate Scientists Sounds Dire Alarm
*************************************************************
[ link to www.zetatalk.com]
For best results, to cover problems with the need to switch over to new satellites or an anticipated Planet X impact on earth, they would of course align their announcements of solar events with real solar events.
GPS system 'close to breakdown'
[ link to www.guardian.co.uk]
GPS could begin to deteriorate as early as next year, resulting in regular blackouts and failures – or even dishing out inaccurate directions to millions of people worldwide.
Pleae explain in detail how ANY of that has ANYTHING to do with anything Nancy has ever claimed. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 704586
6/17/2009 8:46 AM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
Hi.
Quick question.
Is this Nancy person generating any income(however little) from her 'Zeta' activities, yes or no?
Does her website have a 'for entertainment' disclaimer, yes or no? |
| Mysterysoul
User ID: 664247
6/17/2009 9:22 AM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
Hi.
Quick question.
Is this Nancy person generating any income(however little) from her 'Zeta' activities, yes or no?
Does her website have a 'for entertainment' disclaimer, yes or no? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 704586
According to some of her minutes there is a small income from sales of DVD, books, and some Donations, they are in a Non-profit status, so I am assuming that most of the money goes back into these alleged projects they had in motion, and to pay for the running of the website.
Income yes, however, it's difficult to say weather "profit" is being made without them releasing their financial records out to those that request it.
And her disclaimer is here:
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
Last Edited by Mysterysoul on 6/17/2009 at 9:36 AM
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, martini in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming--WOO HOO what a ride!" |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 704586
6/17/2009 9:24 AM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
Hi.
Quick question.
Is this Nancy person generating any income(however little) from her 'Zeta' activities, yes or no?
Does her website have a 'for entertainment' disclaimer, yes or no?
According to some of her minutes there is a small income from sales of DVD, books, and some Donations, they are in a Non-profit status, so I am assuming that most of the money goes back into these alleged projects they had in motion, and to pay for the running of the website.
Income yes, however, it's difficult to say weather "profit" is being made without them releasing their financial records out to those that request it. Quoting: Mysterysoul
Good enough, thank you.
I'll be back... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 704678
6/17/2009 9:28 AM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
It took them a decade, but the halfwit debunkers finally realized that all the spewing they did on Nancy's threads had only one effect: to keep them alive so that everyone got a chance to read them. LOL! So, they came up with this new idea recently of starting their own Zetatalk debunker threads, and then bumping them for page after page. But, of course, they are the only ones posting their so the threads are just these inane rah-rah sessions that go something like this:
Debunker A: That Nancy sure is an idiot, and a bad person, too. I bet she is really rich from Zetatalk.
Debunker B: Yeah, Debunker A, you are so right. We alone in the debunker camp are smart and all scientific and stuff, so people should believe us a lot.
Debunker C: PXers really make me mad and that's why I call them names, cuz I care about them and wish they wouldn't throw their lives away.
Debunker A: I guess it's my turn again. ... Okay, well, let's see. Where is their evidence? We have lots of evidence, but they don't.
Debunker B: Evidence is scientific, but them guys just don't get it, so we have to swear at them a lot.
Debunker C: I was gonna say that.
What can a little old PXer say except: "Obsess much?"
Soledad
if you'd actually take time to RESEARCH , you'd understand that the zetas were slaves and here to eat us.Now when some lost soul come up and says that she listen to the zetas because they are good n nice , i can only be sad for her , many would like to help her get out of this hole but they stroke her ego so she doesnt see the hole at all... she will eventualy , she will be ashamed too. But this shall past and we'll all live in harmony and be happy :) |
| Circuit Breaker
Countdown To Nancy's Next Failure
User ID: 612979
6/17/2009 9:32 AM
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Reason given worked...didn't it? Quoting: Free Store
And what reason was that? "Planet X" didn't show up.
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| Soledad
User ID: 677020
6/17/2009 9:41 AM
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Nice to see that my thread generated so much "interesting" discussion.  |
| Toostupid
User ID: 704737
6/17/2009 11:38 AM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
And GLP lets people degrade and try to humiliate people with out any control. LEAVE GLP TO THEIR HATE AND DEGREDATION. LEAVE GLP DON"T VISIT THE SITE ANYMORE
SUPPORT STOPPING ALL THESE PEOPLE WHO THINK THEY CAN TALK TO OTHER people in these kind of words and get away with it. |
| User # 78/68
User ID: 681262
6/17/2009 12:24 PM
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Duh, our boycott started on Saturday, so what does last week have to do with anything.
Sorry, I don't check GLP PX threads every 15 seconds, only debunker morons do. I actually have a life.
Apparently that life doesn't include mastering 8th grade science and math or you would never have fallen for the zetadrool.
But someone has to live in the tail out on the far left side of the IQ bell curve, now we know who it is: YOU!
Can I infer from your pompous attitude that YOU "live" beyond +3 sigma of the mean? So tell us your qualifications to be a reality expert. Grade 10 science? Grade 11 life skills math? So reveal to the world your station in life, as Nancy has done. C'mon, who are you? Are you less brave and less sure than Nancy? I'm calling you out - who are you and what are your credentials that we should pay one iota of attention to your admonishments and warnings to beware of "zetadrool"? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 619284
Run CommonHater RUN!
This person asks you a simple question and your response was comical. You prove once again you are NOT to be trusted.
NASA hired a real brainiac in you. |
| User # 78/68
User ID: 681262
6/17/2009 12:35 PM
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Excellent thought. Here you go.
Nancy (Zetas?) present an idea. This is sometimes rebutted by opposing facts as best as others can present them, which is wonderful and valuable. No one is perfect, so a rebuttal with the tools and abilities one has, even if not eloquently put or exhaustively researched, is brave and good. Most often, though, the responses to Nancy's postings are comprised of snarky school-yard put downs, vicious personal attacks, swamping her messages with voluminous vapid postings, and proclamations that, in a nutshell, condemn and ridicule the intellect and sanity of anyone who accepts Nancy's position with blind faith and ALSO anyone who wants to make up their own mind by considering all the arguments presented.
So, I want to know the credentials of members of the latter group, who appear to outnumber the folks who try legitimate respectful arguments to Nancy. It's not enough to disrupt, put down, overwhelm, and attack the person not the idea. These are inane sandbox bully level tactics, and sway no adult on this forum. You are more than this? Then reveal who you are and convince us why we should pay any heed at all to Nancy's most vociferous critics.
And yet, when asked a question about whether you believe Nancy's claim tha Earth is halted in orbit, you respond with snarky school-yard put downs, vicious personal attacks, and proclamations that, in a nutshell, condemn and ridicule the intellect and sanity of anyone who rejects Nancy's position with evidence and ALSO anyone who wants to make up their own mind by considering all the contrary evidence presented.
That's precisely what you just did, and you avoided the question, to boot. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6330
Could you LIE a little bit more about the content of that post. You and Menow are out there and as plain as day lying about EVERYTHING you pretend to discuss.
This person simply asked CommonHater for his credentials as he literally attacks and insults with vile words anybody pro to Nancy's words. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 6330
6/17/2009 1:02 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
Well, then, let's try WITHOUT said snark:
Do you (either you, #78/68, or any other Nancy-interested party) believe that the Earth is halted in its orbit, as Nancy has claimed for years now?
If so, what evidence would convince you that Earth is moving normally in her orbit?
If not, why do you believe the Zetas in other outlandish astronomical claims that they make?
In EITHER case, when PX fails to show up in 2012 (and it will), will you hold Nancy/Zetas accountable for the lies she/they have told for years?
No snark. Your floor. |
| User # 78/68
User ID: 681262
6/17/2009 4:59 PM
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Well, then, let's try WITHOUT said snark:
Do you (either you, #78/68, or any other Nancy-interested party) believe that the Earth is halted in its orbit, as Nancy has claimed for years now?
If so, what evidence would convince you that Earth is moving normally in her orbit?
If not, why do you believe the Zetas in other outlandish astronomical claims that they make?
In EITHER case, when PX fails to show up in 2012 (and it will), will you hold Nancy/Zetas accountable for the lies she/they have told for years?
No snark. Your floor. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6330
You guys are like broken records with this question. Do your own homework and find my answer, home boy. I've already answered this many times. |
| DrPostman
Forum Moderator
User ID: 51197
6/17/2009 5:24 PM
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LUser doesn't care if you beg him on your knees to answer a
question no matter how much civility is used to ask it. He
won't answer you. It took me 3 weeks of constantly taunting
him to finally get him to admit that he didn't believe what
Nancy claimed when she stated that the Moon didn't rotate on
it's own axis. Even LUser isn't stupid enough to believe that.
"I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
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| DrPostman
Forum Moderator
User ID: 51197
6/17/2009 5:26 PM
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No snark. Your floor.
You guys are like broken records with this question. Do your own homework and find my answer, home boy. I've already answered this many times. Quoting: LUser # 78/68
And he answers you with snark.
quod est demonstratum!
"I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
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| Soledad
User ID: 677020
6/17/2009 5:27 PM
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LUser doesn't care if you beg him on your knees to answer a
question no matter how much civility is used to ask it. He
won't answer you. It took me 3 weeks of constantly taunting
him ... Quoting: DrPostman
"constantly tauting him" Is that your idea of scientific objectivity and civil discourse? |
| DrPostman
Forum Moderator
User ID: 51197
6/17/2009 5:49 PM
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"constantly tauting him" Is that your idea of scientific objectivity and civil discourse? Quoting: Soledad
After many many attempt to get him to answer a straight
question I tried a different tactic. Since LUser constantly
taunts others I felt it might work to throw his own behavior
back at him. And it worked! He equivocated a lot in his
answer but the bottom line was that he agreed that Nancy
was wrong about the Moon.
I try to be civil, but sometimes you have to give as good as
you get. In fact, I have always been civil with everyone on
GLP until they start shit with me. Then the gloves come off
because I refuse to be a doormat. 14 years on the net taught
me how to deal with assholes.
"I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 704995
6/17/2009 5:52 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
But how much discussion is going on there? Not a whole lot is there? Funny, huh?
So you admit that you were wrong about Nancy appearing on the front page. Woo-hoo, CB wrong again!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'd hardly call that a victory when none of the discussion taking place has anything to do with Nancy's accuracy or showing anyone else that might stumble in there that "Planet X" is real.
And you admit that you posted in our thread and ZetaMax continues to do so.
Soledad wrong again. Woo-hoo!! Quoting: Circuit Breaker
What a fuckin' idiot! |
| The Commentator
User ID: 587619
6/17/2009 6:32 PM
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LUser doesn't care if you beg him on your knees to answer a
question no matter how much civility is used to ask it. He
won't answer you. It took me 3 weeks of constantly taunting
him ...
"constantly tauting him" Is that your idea of scientific objectivity and civil discourse? Quoting: Soledad
And blindly believing a senile, delusional old woman who hears voices in her head is yours?
Oh yes, what are you going to say when your imaginary planey is not spotted during, before or after the upcoming eclipse?
non sufficit Orbis |
| Soledad
User ID: 677020
6/17/2009 6:37 PM
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"constantly tauting him" Is that your idea of scientific objectivity and civil discourse?
After many many attempt to get him to answer a straight
question I tried a different tactic. Since LUser constantly
taunts others I felt it might work to throw his own behavior
back at him. And it worked! He equivocated a lot in his
answer but the bottom line was that he agreed that Nancy
was wrong about the Moon.
I try to be civil, but sometimes you have to give as good as
you get. In fact, I have always been civil with everyone on
GLP until they start shit with me. Then the gloves come off
because I refuse to be a doormat. 14 years on the net taught
me how to deal with assholes. Quoting: DrPostman
I have never addressed you in any of my threads, yet you appear in all of them to post vicious insults and attacks. How is that "giving as good as you get"? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 705059
6/17/2009 6:52 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
It seems the uncivil one here was the 78 guy.......
Very aptly demonstrated. Why didn't he just answer the question? or if he has answered it before, just link to his answer?
The debunkers sure seem to be more civil to me............... |
| DrPostman
Forum Moderator
User ID: 51197
6/17/2009 8:43 PM
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I have never addressed you in any of my threads, yet you appear in all of them to post vicious insults and attacks. How is that "giving as good as you get"? Quoting: Soledad
Wow, two lies in one sentence. Amazing. You have addressed
me in at least one of your threads and I do not appear in all
of them. The third lie is your claim of vicious insults
and attacks. If posting scientific data is an attack you are
lost.
"I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
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| DrPostman
Forum Moderator
User ID: 51197
6/17/2009 8:44 PM
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It seems the uncivil one here was the 78 guy.......
Very aptly demonstrated. Why didn't he just answer the question? or if he has answered it before, just link to his answer?
The debunkers sure seem to be more civil to me............... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 705059
You would think it would be simpler to answer. Even when just
a yes or no would suffice he will always go for the insult
and/or innuendo over providing a direct answer.
"I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears
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| The Commentator
User ID: 587619
6/17/2009 8:48 PM
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It seems the uncivil one here was the 78 guy.......
Very aptly demonstrated. Why didn't he just answer the question? or if he has answered it before, just link to his answer?
The debunkers sure seem to be more civil to me...............
You would think it would be simpler to answer. Even when just
a yes or no would suffice he will always go for the insult
and/or innuendo over providing a direct answer. Quoting: DrPostman
That is because, like the rest of the bunkers he/she/it HAS no answers. None. All they can do is spew bullshit from a delusional old woman who hears voices in her head and insults, then run away.
Pathetic lot, but then someone has to occupy the left side tail of the IQ bell curve.
non sufficit Orbis |
| Andromeda
User ID: 658410
6/17/2009 8:56 PM
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You Zeta talk people and debunkers should end this separation and get back together.
It wasn't right to invite the debunkers to leave the Zetatalk thread.
 |
| Menow
User ID: 405501
6/17/2009 9:05 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
Well, then, let's try WITHOUT said snark:
Do you (either you, #78/68, or any other Nancy-interested party) believe that the Earth is halted in its orbit, as Nancy has claimed for years now?
If so, what evidence would convince you that Earth is moving normally in her orbit?
If not, why do you believe the Zetas in other outlandish astronomical claims that they make?
In EITHER case, when PX fails to show up in 2012 (and it will), will you hold Nancy/Zetas accountable for the lies she/they have told for years?
No snark. Your floor.
You guys are like broken records with this question. Do your own homework and find my answer, home boy. I've already answered this many times. Quoting: User # 78/68
So next time one of you lamers asks the debunkers (again) "Why are you here?" we should just say "Go find my answer"? OK. |
| User # 78/68
User ID: 681262
6/18/2009 11:55 AM
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LUser doesn't care if you beg him on your knees to answer a
question no matter how much civility is used to ask it. He
won't answer you. It took me 3 weeks of constantly taunting
him to finally get him to admit that he didn't believe what
Nancy claimed when she stated that the Moon didn't rotate on
it's own axis. Even LUser isn't stupid enough to believe that. Quoting: DrPostman
There he goes, yet again!
Dr Postman cannot stop himself from lying. Show me where I said this Posthole?
OR, wallow away as a proven LIAR. |
| User # 78/68
User ID: 681262
6/18/2009 11:59 AM
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"constantly tauting him" Is that your idea of scientific objectivity and civil discourse?
After many many attempt to get him to answer a straight
question I tried a different tactic. Since LUser constantly
taunts others I felt it might work to throw his own behavior
back at him. And it worked! He equivocated a lot in his
answer but the bottom line was that he agreed that Nancy
was wrong about the Moon.
I try to be civil, but sometimes you have to give as good as
you get. In fact, I have always been civil with everyone on
GLP until they start shit with me. Then the gloves come off
because I refuse to be a doormat. 14 years on the net taught
me how to deal with assholes.
I have never addressed you in any of my threads, yet you appear in all of them to post vicious insults and attacks. How is that "giving as good as you get"? Quoting: Soledad
That's how this twerp rolls Soledad.
He says he doesn't insult and is never the first to do so, and in the very next breath he calls Nancy delusional and sick in the head. This guy is PURE wack-job!
Just read the CommonHater's remarks on every thread he attends to get his vile, poisoned point of view. They are two peas in a pod! |
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