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Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ...
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DrPostman  
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6/22/2009 6:27 PM
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Bingo!
Did you understand that, Dr Postman? The moon turns with the Earth as it is glued to it, it drives it so to speak.
Do you really believe that the moon is spinning on it's axis around the Earth in perfect synchronicity so it's one side only exposed? Really? What are the odds of that?
And, if we could somehow stop the moon from rotating (hypothetical) or slow it down somehow, do you think it would stay at that speed or stay stopped?
Or could it eventually become synchronous with Earth's orbit again? Quoting: User # 78/68
I know what a Barycenter is. And I know that if you took out
the Earth the Moon would still appear to rotate on it's own
axis at the rate of one rotation for every 27.3 days.
Nancy's words are these:
"No dork, YOU are attempting to put words in Elle's link. That link does NOT say the Moon rotates, it says it orbits.
The Moon is not turning, which is rotation, is it glued to the Earth, one side of it glued to the Earth and the other side perpetually facing outward from the Earth. This is different than 'rotation'"
--4/30/2006 8:26 AM Re: ZetaTalk : on BLOG Radio Schedule May 3
The odds are pretty good since Tidal Lock is a far from rare
phenomena in our own solar system.
I've posted this diagram before. It's makes it clear that the
Moon rotates on it's own axis:
[link to www.bautforum.com]
It explains how Grant, a former sycophant of Nancy until he
got busted for arguing with himeself on GLP, is wrong about
the Moon's rotation.
It should be simple enough to grasp.
Last Edited by DrPostman on 6/22/2009 at 6:27 PM
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Menow
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6/22/2009 6:41 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
Is there a ZetaTalk explaining why the Moon does not rotate? I looked on ZetaTalk.com and couldn't find anything.
We have made the statement that the Moon itself does not rotate. The Moon completes its orbit every 28 days while it has one-half of its sphere constantly facing the Earth, glued to the Earth. Thus, the Moon orbits but does not rotate. If the Moon were not in a perpetual dance with the Earth, it would not move at all. Rotation is driven by a liquid or semi-liquid core, not homogeneous, which has parts that attempt to move toward attractants and other parts which attempt to escape elements that repulse. The core is swirling about, like a dog chasing its tail. The Earth would rotate even without the presence of the Sun or other planets nearby. The Moon would not.
I guess you have quoted Zetatalk, here, but you gave no link.
Apparently, "Zetas" say that the Moon DOES NOT ROTATE. So, User, why are you saying the opposit?
I guess it went over your head Menow.
It moon orbits the Earth and as it does this it appears to rotate or spin, always keeping the same side facing us. Why is this so hard for you?
Semantic games ... and you play them Menow, you have since you started posting here at GLP.
I agree with what was said above. The semantics game you love so much MeNow is cute. (spin, rotate, turn, orbit) pick one.
You said you agreed with the "Zeta" explanation of why the moon rotates, but they say it does NOT rotate. What is semantic about that? How can you agree with something you have clearly not understood and can't synopsize without contradicting?
By the way, "rotate" and "orbit" are not the same thing at all, so which do you mean?
The moon orbits the Earth, and it appears to spin or rotate as it does this. Is this so hard for you to understand? Quoting: User # 78/68
1) You equated "rotate" and "orbit", before, and I asked you which you meant, as they are not synonymous. Why can't you EVER answer a direct question with a direct answer? You coyly pretend you never said that and now equate "spin" and "rotate", which ARE fairly synonymous.
However...
2) No... the Moon "appears" NOT to rotate to those on the ground with no understanding of astronomy. When you watch the Moon can you see all sides of it? No. That means it APPEARS not to rotate, so why are you saying the opposit?
Since you got here and started posting at GLP you always play semantic games with others. Quoting: User # 78/68
How about sticking with the facts for a change? Kindly address the above. You still seem VERY confused as to the "ZETA" claim you "agree with". |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 527574
6/22/2009 6:50 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
Postman and Menow still at it. Hilarious indeed! |
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DrPostman
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6/22/2009 6:51 PM
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Nancy made it clear that she believes that the Moon is
"not turning". How much more does anyone need to see how
wrong she is.
"I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears
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Menow
User ID: 405501
6/22/2009 6:51 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
The stars rise and set on the Moon. It rotates, spins, whatever you call it.
It is tidally locked with the Earth. That is not unusual, as all SORTS of Moons in the solar system are tidally locked to their primaries. They ALL rotate, spin, whatever you call it.
If Earth vanished, the Moon would CONTINUE to spin, rotate, whatever you call it. It would revolve once every 28 days or so.
If the Sun lasted long enough, the Earthless Moon would eventually tidally lock to the Sun.
Come to think of it, the same would happen to the Earth. If the Sun lasted well beyond the five billion years its estimated to last, Earth would have the time to tidally lock to it, with the same face looking at the Sun all the time. Yet, the stars would move overhead, because the rate of Earth's spin would match its orbit around the Sun.
Nancy's 'does not spin' argument is completely semantic on its face. If the Moon did NOT spin, the stars and Sun should not rise or set on the Moon. Yet, we watch this happening every month with the phases of the Moon.
Nancy's wrong. She's playing every semantic game possible to avoid admitting this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 658394
Yes, it's hilarious how those who throw around the word "semantics" can't see Nancy's MASSIVE use of it to dodge hard questions. |
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DrPostman
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6/22/2009 6:52 PM
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Postman and Menow still at it. Hilarious indeed! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 527574
Even funnier how you shit your pants just thinking about how
to explain why Nancy claims that the Moon isn't turning.
"I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears
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Free Store
User ID: 143978
6/22/2009 6:57 PM
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Funny how only one side of the moon sees the stars rising and falling
Guess that proves it eh?
"do geese see god?"
"... lol, do your eyes need proof that they can see for to be able to see? "
gooderboy |
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Menow
User ID: 405501
6/22/2009 6:59 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
And, if we could somehow stop the moon from rotating (hypothetical) or slow it down somehow, do you think it would stay at that speed or stay stopped? Quoting: User # 78/68
Stop it from rotating?? Nancy claims(and you say you agree) that it is NOT ROTATING now, so what do you mean??
Or could it eventually become synchronous with Earth's orbit again? Quoting: User # 78/68
It matters not one whit WHY the Moon rotates at the rate it does. This question has already been posed before. If the Moon rotated once in 35 days, no one would say it didn't rotate. If it then slowly speeds up, for WHATEVER reason, till it's what it is today and rotates once for every orbit, how can you say it has then STOPPED rotating?? It has SPED UP its rotational speed, for Chris' sakes! How can you/Nancy/Zetas/whomever claim that it has then STOPPED rotating????????? |
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Menow
User ID: 405501
6/22/2009 7:01 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
Funny how only one side of the moon sees the stars rising and falling
Guess that proves it eh? Quoting: Free Store
No, ALL sides of the Moon see the stars rising and falling. |
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Disturbed nli
User ID: 374025
6/22/2009 7:01 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
Postman and Menow still at it. Hilarious indeed! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 527574
I love seeing the debunkers going at the zetafreaks.
Never gets boring.
I do wonder how those zetafreaks justify their believes to themselves while they have been (proven) wrong so many times....
How many of those bunkers will kill their dog when nancy says it's time (again...)??? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 689067
6/22/2009 7:02 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
Funny how only one side of the moon sees the stars rising and falling
Guess that proves it eh? Quoting: Free Store
My God, Free Store. Is there no bottom to your pit of stupidity? How can only one side of the moon see stars rising? |
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Free Store
User ID: 143978
6/22/2009 7:02 PM
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Funny how only one side of the moon sees the stars rising and falling
Guess that proves it eh?
No, ALL sides of the Moon see the stars rising and falling. Quoting: Menow 405501
How so?
"do geese see god?"
"... lol, do your eyes need proof that they can see for to be able to see? "
gooderboy |
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Menow
User ID: 405501
6/22/2009 7:05 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
Funny how only one side of the moon sees the stars rising and falling
Guess that proves it eh?
No, ALL sides of the Moon see the stars rising and falling.
How so? Quoting: Free Store
How not? |
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Soledad
User ID: 677020
6/22/2009 7:18 PM
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Nancy made it clear that she believes that the Moon is
"not turning". How much more does anyone need to see how
wrong she is. Quoting: DrPostman
How about the link to Zetatalk where she made this claim? |
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DrPostman
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User ID: 51197
6/22/2009 7:23 PM
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Funny how only one side of the moon sees the stars rising and falling
Guess that proves it eh?
No, ALL sides of the Moon see the stars rising and falling. Quoting: Menow 405501
You do realize, don't you, that Free Store baited you with
that stupid statement, right?
"I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears
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Soledad
User ID: 677020
6/22/2009 7:24 PM
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Nancy made it clear that she believes that the Moon is
"not turning". How much more does anyone need to see how
wrong she is.
How about the link to Zetatalk where she made this claim? Quoting: Soledad
Still waiting ... |
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Free Store
User ID: 143978
6/22/2009 7:25 PM
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No you dumb ape,not everyone has ill intentions
"do geese see god?"
"... lol, do your eyes need proof that they can see for to be able to see? "
gooderboy |
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DrPostman
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User ID: 51197
6/22/2009 7:26 PM
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Nancy made it clear that she believes that the Moon is
"not turning". How much more does anyone need to see how
wrong she is.
How about the link to Zetatalk where she made this claim? Quoting: Soledad
Are you too impared to look up the thread I referenced
at the top of this page?
Just this once, MS "do your own research" I will do it
for you: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Last Edited by DrPostman on 6/22/2009 at 7:31 PM
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killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears
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DrPostman
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6/22/2009 7:27 PM
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Still waiting ... Quoting: Soledad
You mean "still too lazy" to read even a whole page of a thread.
"I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
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Menow
User ID: 405501
6/22/2009 7:27 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
Funny how only one side of the moon sees the stars rising and falling
Guess that proves it eh?
No, ALL sides of the Moon see the stars rising and falling.
You do realize, don't you, that Free Store baited you with
that stupid statement, right? Quoting: DrPostman
Sure, but I had to know what he could possibly say to support it. Call it morbid fascination. |
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Burning Beard
User ID: 707880
6/22/2009 7:28 PM
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No you dumb ape,not everyone has ill intentions Quoting: Free Store
What are your intentions?
[link to www.myspace.com]
Dig a ditch and bury the bitch. |
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DrPostman
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User ID: 51197
6/22/2009 7:30 PM
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What are your intentions? Quoting: Burning Beard
He's here to troll. That's why he asks the same stupid
questions repeatedly. It's been explained to him ad nauseam
how the Moon rotates on it's own axis. Many times over
the last 3 years at least.
"I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears
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Free Store
User ID: 143978
6/22/2009 7:32 PM
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Defending my belief
Still Menow when asked how the stars rise and fall can be seen anywhere on the moon which would as he says is proof it rotated
Even when the Earth has not moved from the moon's sky
"do geese see god?"
"... lol, do your eyes need proof that they can see for to be able to see? "
gooderboy |
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DrPostman
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6/22/2009 7:36 PM
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Nancy made it clear that she believes that the Moon is
"not turning". How much more does anyone need to see how
wrong she is.
How about the link to Zetatalk where she made this claim?
Still waiting ... Quoting: Soledad
Are you still waiting dear Soledad?
"I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
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Menow
User ID: 405501
6/22/2009 7:38 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
Nancy made it clear that she believes that the Moon is
"not turning". How much more does anyone need to see how
wrong she is.
How about the link to Zetatalk where she made this claim?
Are you too impared to look up the thread I referenced
at the top of this page?
Just this once, MS "do your own research" I will do it
for you: [ link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Quoting: DrPostman
I went through an entire discussion of this statement of Nancy's:
"Thus for the Moon to be rotating, it must be spinning about its OWN axis, not glued to something else and thus changing its position when that something else moves. If you hold a book in front of you, pages to your nose, and turn in a complete circle, the BOOK did not turn in a circle, YOU did."
Both were turning, Nancy.
The discussion involved the example of a spinning figure skater and her extended hand, which is no different than Nancy's held book or the Earth/Moon. Is the skater's extended hand rotating as she spins? No, you say? Really? Then what parts of the skater ARE rotating? Keep removing allegedly non-rotating parts until you get down to what you say *IS* rotating. Oh, you now say the skater's hand *IS* rotating? Then so is the held book, and the Moon. |
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Free Store
User ID: 143978
6/22/2009 7:39 PM
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When you can't use logic use names instead
Dr Postman
"do geese see god?"
"... lol, do your eyes need proof that they can see for to be able to see? "
gooderboy |
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Menow
User ID: 405501
6/22/2009 7:41 PM | | Re: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... | Quote |
Defending my belief
Still Menow when asked how the stars rise and fall can be seen anywhere on the moon which would as he says is proof it rotated
Even when the Earth has not moved from the moon's sky Quoting: Free Store
Quote the absurdity that is Freestore:
"Funny how only one side of the moon sees the stars rising and falling"
Classic! |
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Free Store
User ID: 143978
6/22/2009 7:43 PM
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Explain how the Earth and Moon remains in a relative stuck view of each other but the Stars rise and fall to prove the Moon indeed rotates
The Earth would also have to rise and fall along with the Stars to be called rotation
"do geese see god?"
"... lol, do your eyes need proof that they can see for to be able to see? "
gooderboy |
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DrPostman
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6/22/2009 7:44 PM
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I think he really believes that there is a "dark" side of
the Moon.
Only on a classic rock album does that exist.
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be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears
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Free Store
User ID: 143978
6/22/2009 7:48 PM
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Trouble is you cant explain it that is why the frustration level rises and the dumb posts follow
believe what you want Menow and Co it is not my thing to convince just defend what I believe Have fun...
"do geese see god?"
"... lol, do your eyes need proof that they can see for to be able to see? "
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