Explain how the Earth and Moon remains in a relative stuck view of each other but the Stars rise and fall to prove the Moon indeed rotates
The Earth would also have to rise and fall along with the Stars to be called rotation
Freestore, do you notice the phases of the moon? Over the course of the month, the sun illuminates one edge, then the full face, then the other edge. What do you think is causing this? What would a person standing on the moon see as the sunlight moves over him and he slowly ends up being in darkness...what would the sun appear to be doing in the sky over that time?
The Earth is in the way still unmoved
How is it "in the way" when we see the crescent moon in the west just after the sun has gone down? They are both in the same part of the sky.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 705842
Are you new here? Have you no idea what you've stepped in?
It's like QUIIIIIICCCCKKKKKSAAAAAAANNNNNNDDDDD!!!!!!
Anonymous Coward User ID: 695998 6/22/2009 9:41 PM
Agreed, I think they're pushing the definition of "rotate" when defining the moons motion. The Earth's "rotation" and the Moon's "rotation" are two completely different motions and therefore cannot be defined in the same way.
May this scientific historical flaw be noted and corrected as soon as possible.
Agreed, I think they're pushing the definition of "rotate" when defining the moons motion. The Earth's "rotation" and the Moon's "rotation" are two completely different motions and therefore cannot be defined in the same way.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 695998
Really. Go ahead and explain how they are different. Then I'll explain how they are the same. Go.
Agreed, I think they're pushing the definition of "rotate" when defining the moons motion. The Earth's "rotation" and the Moon's "rotation" are two completely different motions and therefore cannot be defined in the same way.
May this scientific historical flaw be noted and corrected as soon as possible.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 695998
PS: Why don't you begin by outlining what the Moon's motions would be if the Earth suddenly went missing.
Agreed, I think they're pushing the definition of "rotate" when defining the moons motion. The Earth's "rotation" and the Moon's "rotation" are two completely different motions and therefore cannot be defined in the same way.
May this scientific historical flaw be noted and corrected as soon as possible.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 695998
The US has to officially admit that they lied about Flying Saucers and Aliens so you'll have to wait your turn "do geese see god?"
"... lol, do your eyes need proof that they can see for to be able to see? "
gooderboy
The Lone Ranger Debunking Zetatalk for the sake of the people User ID: 701301 6/22/2009 10:27 PM
Still more popular a thread than the zetatalk chat thread!!
Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all."
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"ZetaTalk is all crap. Nancy has spent over ten years writing and compiling a huge web site full of total bullshit. It's a work of true insanity, but useful for nothing other than students of manic disorders." Anonymous Coward. User ID: 597174. 7/11/2009 8:22 PM
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I concede that Nancy and ZetaTalk are not the most "trustworthy" of "sources" because her reputation, credentials and track record leave a LOT to be desired. Melfy 9/21/09
The Lone Ranger Debunking Zetatalk for the sake of the people User ID: 701301 6/22/2009 10:33 PM
Freestore wishes he was Punnisher, but he's just not.
Quoting: Menow 405501
Now that's funny.
Mr FrEaKy is on the lowest troll rung there can be.
He so desires to get his three wishes from his genie in a bottle.
Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all."
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"ZetaTalk is all crap. Nancy has spent over ten years writing and compiling a huge web site full of total bullshit. It's a work of true insanity, but useful for nothing other than students of manic disorders." Anonymous Coward. User ID: 597174. 7/11/2009 8:22 PM
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I concede that Nancy and ZetaTalk are not the most "trustworthy" of "sources" because her reputation, credentials and track record leave a LOT to be desired. Melfy 9/21/09
The Lone Ranger Debunking Zetatalk for the sake of the people User ID: 701301 6/22/2009 10:35 PM
Freestore, if you're an example of the best that the bunkers have to offer, no wonder they are a 100% failure!
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 705842
Yes Mr FrEaKy is the Best of the Best!!
Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all."
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"ZetaTalk is all crap. Nancy has spent over ten years writing and compiling a huge web site full of total bullshit. It's a work of true insanity, but useful for nothing other than students of manic disorders." Anonymous Coward. User ID: 597174. 7/11/2009 8:22 PM
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I concede that Nancy and ZetaTalk are not the most "trustworthy" of "sources" because her reputation, credentials and track record leave a LOT to be desired. Melfy 9/21/09
The Lone Ranger Debunking Zetatalk for the sake of the people User ID: 701301 6/22/2009 10:38 PM
To raise the collective intellect on the GLP forum...next please. Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all."
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"ZetaTalk is all crap. Nancy has spent over ten years writing and compiling a huge web site full of total bullshit. It's a work of true insanity, but useful for nothing other than students of manic disorders." Anonymous Coward. User ID: 597174. 7/11/2009 8:22 PM
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I concede that Nancy and ZetaTalk are not the most "trustworthy" of "sources" because her reputation, credentials and track record leave a LOT to be desired. Melfy 9/21/09
The Lone Ranger Debunking Zetatalk for the sake of the people User ID: 701301 6/22/2009 11:22 PM
Freestore wishes he was Punnisher, but he's just not.
Quoting: Menow 405501
Last Edited by The Lone Ranger on 6/22/2009 at 11:23 PM Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all."
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"ZetaTalk is all crap. Nancy has spent over ten years writing and compiling a huge web site full of total bullshit. It's a work of true insanity, but useful for nothing other than students of manic disorders." Anonymous Coward. User ID: 597174. 7/11/2009 8:22 PM
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I concede that Nancy and ZetaTalk are not the most "trustworthy" of "sources" because her reputation, credentials and track record leave a LOT to be desired. Melfy 9/21/09
Circuit Breaker Countdown To Nancy's Next Failure User ID: 612979 6/22/2009 11:25 PM
Funny how only one side of the moon sees the stars rising and falling
Guess that proves it eh?
You didn't watch the video I provided a link to on the previous page did you?
No, of course not. You never look at any evidence that proves you wrong.
Quoting: Circuit Breaker
Because it is like showing a video that shows as proof the Earth is flat
That hamster example was a good one
did the hamster rotate
it's wheel does just not the hamster
Last Edited by Free Store on 6/22/2009 at 11:31 PM "do geese see god?"
"... lol, do your eyes need proof that they can see for to be able to see? "
gooderboy
Since when, Circuit Breaker does NASA refer to an orbiting space capsule as rotating around the Earth?
Astronomers observing the Moon noticed that it seems to be rotating on its axis in precise synchronization with its orbital speed, but their conclusion is wrong. A close examination would reveal the Moon does not rotate at all and is void of spin.
Last Edited by Free Store on 6/23/2009 at 12:19 AM "do geese see god?"
"... lol, do your eyes need proof that they can see for to be able to see? "
gooderboy
Anonymous Coward User ID: 709498 6/23/2009 1:25 AM
Since when, Circuit Breaker does NASA refer to an orbiting space capsule as rotating around the Earth?
Astronomers observing the Moon noticed that it seems to be rotating on its axis in precise synchronization with its orbital speed, but their conclusion is wrong. A close examination would reveal the Moon does not rotate at all and is void of spin.
What did you say you little bitchslapper!! Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all."
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"ZetaTalk is all crap. Nancy has spent over ten years writing and compiling a huge web site full of total bullshit. It's a work of true insanity, but useful for nothing other than students of manic disorders." Anonymous Coward. User ID: 597174. 7/11/2009 8:22 PM
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I concede that Nancy and ZetaTalk are not the most "trustworthy" of "sources" because her reputation, credentials and track record leave a LOT to be desired. Melfy 9/21/09
DrPostman Forum Moderator User ID: 51197 6/23/2009 1:50 AM
Freestore, if you're an example of the best that the bunkers have to offer, no wonder they are a 100% failure!
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 705842
I really don't get why people bother dancing with him. I
don't. He deliberately posts flame bait, like his comment
on 60 year old science books and asking about them being
updated. Almost ALL of the claims of Zetatalk are based
on science that was conducted 60 years ago. Modern science
has no place in their figuring. That's how you know it's
nothing but baiting.
Agreed, I think they're pushing the definition of "rotate" when defining the moons motion. The Earth's "rotation" and the Moon's "rotation" are two completely different motions and therefore cannot be defined in the same way.
May this scientific historical flaw be noted and corrected as soon as possible.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 695998
Nancy is the one who claims the Moon doesn't rotate, when
it clearly does. What part of "The Moon is not turning, which is rotation" don't you get?
Its right there, in black and white. Nothing to define when
the woman clearly states that the MOON DOES NOT TURN!
Yep, the guy who got caught arguing with himself when the
ID system began on GLP. This post on BAUT destroyed Grant's
silly claim about the moon's rotation and gave me the gif
I use now: [link to www.bautforum.com]
I'm pretty sure Freaky knows this and that's why he's
trolling with it. He knows it will evoke a big response. "I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears
Can't PM? Feel free to email me at DrPostman(at)gmail.com
Astronomers observing the Moon noticed that it seems to be rotating on its axis in precise synchronization with its orbital speed, but their conclusion is wrong. A close examination would reveal the Moon does not rotate at all and is void of spin.
Quoting: Free Store
Their conclusion is right....and Grant was nothing more than a wanna be. He got laughed off GLP.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 708572 6/23/2009 7:52 AM
Since when, Circuit Breaker does NASA refer to an orbiting space capsule as rotating around the Earth?
Astronomers observing the Moon noticed that it seems to be rotating on its axis in precise synchronization with its orbital speed, but their conclusion is wrong. A close examination would reveal the Moon does not rotate at all and is void of spin.
Astronomers observing the Moon noticed that it seems to be rotating on its axis in precise synchronization with its orbital speed, but their conclusion is wrong. A close examination would reveal the Moon does not rotate at all and is void of spin.
Their conclusion is right....and Grant was nothing more than a wanna be. He got laughed off GLP.
Quoting: Circuit Breaker
Look at both gifs
One is stationary and one is moving in a circle
The moon moves in a circle
The moon is not a wheel as the stationary gif shows
the Earth Rotates the moon does not and that is why you see all sides on the Earth and one side for the moon..
To simple for you to see and not ment as an insult please
Last Edited by Free Store on 6/23/2009 at 8:04 AM "do geese see god?"
"... lol, do your eyes need proof that they can see for to be able to see? "
gooderboy
It is said if the moon does not rotate you would see all sides
this is worst than dope I tell you
Last Edited by Free Store on 6/23/2009 at 8:16 AM "do geese see god?"
"... lol, do your eyes need proof that they can see for to be able to see? "
gooderboy
In case anyone might be confused by Free Store's incessant
trolling here is a diagram that even a child can understand
which clearly shows how the Moon MUST rotate in order to
maintain the same face towards the Earth.
Quoting: DrPostman
Grant you have the images totally around the round way, Image 1 shows the situation where the moon rotates about its axis and shows that it will face the Earth all the time, the second figure shows exactly what would happen if the Moon DOESN'T rotate about its axis.
Here are the gif s instructions on what you are looking at "do geese see god?"
"... lol, do your eyes need proof that they can see for to be able to see? "
gooderboy
Circuit Breaker Countdown To Nancy's Next Failure User ID: 612979 6/23/2009 9:37 AM
You would see that's true if you watch the video. It demonstrates it quite clearly.
Here's another one that does a good job:
[link to www.youtube.com]
Quoting: Circuit Breaker
Freaky is truly a failed Punisher. "I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears
Can't PM? Feel free to email me at DrPostman(at)gmail.com
It is said if the moon does not rotate you would see all sides
this is worst than dope I tell you
Quoting: Free Store
I asked you how many sides of Earth YOU, personally see as you look down at it each day in your yard. Funny, you didn't answer. Why? If you only see one side of Earth, it must not be rotating, right? Isn't that the rule you keep prattling on about?
We're still waiting for you to explain yourself about this:
"Funny how only one side of the moon sees the stars rising and falling
I just want to add here that it looks like you guys might be hacking at the notion of the moon lacking spin a little too much.
Motion, ultimately, is defined along with a frame of reference. We tend to take that frame of reference for granted as implied by context.
But all motion is ultimately relative.
So Nancy can hardly be wrong if she's talking about the moon's spin if her frame of reference is to that which is synchronized to that spin, like the earth.
I just want to add here that it looks like you guys might be hacking at the notion of the moon lacking spin a little too much.
Motion, ultimately, is defined along with a frame of reference. We tend to take that frame of reference for granted as implied by context.
But all motion is ultimately relative.
So Nancy can hardly be wrong if she's talking about the moon's spin if her frame of reference is to that which is synchronized to that spin, like the earth.
Quoting: Andromeda
Of course, but the alternative is to say that the Moon is holding still and the starfield is rotating around it. Do you think that is happening?
She also says that the Moon wouldn't have ANY rotation if not for being paired with Earth because the Moon doesn't have a molten core. She's just wrong.
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Now that's funny.
What did you say you little bitchslapper!!
