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Evolution is real. If you don't believe it, you're a tard.
Here's just one example for the tards: DOGS.

All domestic dog breeds have 'evolved' from wolves in the amazingly short time span of just 10,000 years through unnatural selection at the hands of humans. In fact there were very few breeds of dogs in the time of the fictional character Noah.

Believe it or not, every single breed of dog has a wolf as an ancestor! No-one with any knowledge on the issue disputes this, especially since records show how many breeds didn't exist throughout recorded history.

And the tards think it's not an example of evolution because evolution requires distinctive traits to occur or for different species to arise?

Well, for distinctive traits, just think how selective breeding has evolved some dogs with fur and some with hair and even some furless/hairless breeds. Completely different traits.

And for different species, 10,000 years hasn't been quite long enough for dogs, but regardless the species is starting to split. If you try to breed a Beagle with another type of dog, the result is generally weak with heart and other health problems and do not live very long. With continued differention along this line, they will soon be unable to breed together, therefore: a new species.

Evolution is real. This is just one example of evolution within short time spans.

Denying evolution requires some serious ignorance or self-delusion.
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Here's just one example for the tards: DOGS.

All domestic dog breeds have 'evolved' from wolves in the amazingly short time span of just 10,000 years through unnatural selection at the hands of humans. In fact there were very few breeds of dogs in the time of the fictional character Noah.

Evolution is real. This is just one example of evolution within short time spans.

Denying evolution requires some serious ignorance or self-delusion.
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Okay...so you're saying that it was "assisted" evolution. An intelligent designer created DOGS.
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"Variation within a kind" is biology 101.

And apparently beyond your understanding. You have proven nothing.
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That would be changes in the same species. Evolution does exist, but your theory doesn't prove it.

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Humanity has always believed it has the full sum of knowledge and that beliefs are worth fighting and killing over.
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Dogs aren't an example of evolution, darwin. All the dogs we see today were crossbred over time from the same original gene pool. There were no mutations, and the selection was artificial, not natural. It's called inbreeding, not evolution. And no dog ever turned into something other than a dog.
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Dogs aren't an example of evolution, darwin. All the dogs we see today were crossbred over time from the same original gene pool. There were no mutations, and the selection was artificial, not natural. It's called inbreeding, not evolution. And no dog ever turned into something other than a dog.
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The same goes for how they bred wild corn to produce today's pure yellow corn. Whenever they use selective breeding, it usually produces a weaker strain. That's why today's corn requires so much pesticides and fungicides.
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No, you are wrong. There has to be some god who is a man by the way. He has a long white beard and he wears a long robe because he is old-fashioned. And he carries around lightening bolts, I think. And he created the whole world and everything in it in 7 days and then he got pissed and destroyed the world cause he didn't like the crap he created. And he was really mad cause some woman in some wonderful garden he created ate some apple from some tree that she wasn't supposed to. And he made that woman out of some man's rib so she should have known better. Everyone knows men are sooo superior to women. And because she munched on that apple, everyone is a sinner. That's right. YOU are a sinner because of a woman who ate a fruit. Now, you should be pissed.

So then he had some kid, a son, of course. And he decided to kill him because God loves blood sacrifices. Before his son died, God just had those people kill animals for him. And once in awhile they sacrificed their children, like Jepthath, who killed his daughter for God because God let him win a battle. So now you can go to heaven where you will be happy forever and ever and all you have to do is believe some man died for your sins. That's it. Just believe because we ALL know Christians can't be perfect. This makes soooo much more sense than evolution, okay tard.
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Here's just one example for the tards: DOGS.

All domestic dog breeds have 'evolved' from wolves in the amazingly short time span of just 10,000 years through unnatural selection at the hands of humans. In fact there were very few breeds of dogs in the time of the fictional character Noah.

Evolution is real. This is just one example of evolution within short time spans.

Denying evolution requires some serious ignorance or self-delusion.



Okay...so you're saying that it was "assisted" evolution. An intelligent designer created DOGS.
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Nice mouth Xtian.
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"Variation within a kind" is biology 101.

And apparently beyond your understanding. You have proven nothing.
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You obviously didn't read the post.

No dogs had hair - they had fur. Hair is a mutation.

Also, when two dogs cannot mate and produce viable offspring, they are essentially a new species.

You tards think evolution jumps in big leaps from one species to another. Wrong. It's slow changes over time.
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You're right Dolphin. And you came to the right place. This place is full of tards.
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"Variation within a kind" is biology 101.

And apparently beyond your understanding. You have proven nothing.


You obviously didn't read the post.

No dogs had hair - they had fur. Hair is a mutation.

Also, when two dogs cannot mate and produce viable offspring, they are essentially a new species.

You tards think evolution jumps in big leaps from one species to another. Wrong. It's slow changes over time.
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No they are not a new species, they are a collection of recessive genes gathered from an isolated pool. I have studied this ad nausem.

Micro evolution is the only kind that is even possible on the scale that you talk about.

Sorry, but "essentially a new species" does not cut it. Evolution deals in absolutes, not 'essentials'
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doesn't explain where they got the genetic instructions, dumbass!

you think the whole universe was just an accident?

thats more ignorant than flat earth
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micro evolution = easily observable and true.

macro evolution = agenda driven, false religion.

the OP is just giving an example of micro-evolution.

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Here's just one example for the tards: DOGS.

All domestic dog breeds have 'evolved' from wolves in the amazingly short time span of just 10,000 years through unnatural selection at the hands of humans. In fact there were very few breeds of dogs in the time of the fictional character Noah.

Believe it or not, every single breed of dog has a wolf as an ancestor! No-one with any knowledge on the issue disputes this, especially since records show how many breeds didn't exist throughout recorded history.

And the tards think it's not an example of evolution because evolution requires distinctive traits to occur or for different species to arise?

Well, for distinctive traits, just think how selective breeding has evolved some dogs with fur and some with hair and even some furless/hairless breeds. Completely different traits.

And for different species, 10,000 years hasn't been quite long enough for dogs, but regardless the species is starting to split. If you try to breed a Beagle with another type of dog, the result is generally weak with heart and other health problems and do not live very long. With continued differention along this line, they will soon be unable to breed together, therefore: a new species.

Evolution is real. This is just one example of evolution within short time spans.

Denying evolution requires some serious ignorance or self-delusion.
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You have described genetic adaptation not evolution. And a fictional 10,000 years.

This genetic adaptation can be observed in snails that change colors, cave fish that lose eyes and many others.

The dog is still a dog. There was no 10,000 years.
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"Variation within a kind" is biology 101.

And apparently beyond your understanding. You have proven nothing.


You obviously didn't read the post.

No dogs had hair - they had fur. Hair is a mutation.

Also, when two dogs cannot mate and produce viable offspring, they are essentially a new species.

You tards think evolution jumps in big leaps from one species to another. Wrong. It's slow changes over time.
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Yeah, that's why we find so many transitional forms in the fossil record, NOT. If it happened slowly over time we would see a smooth continuum of transitional fossils with no gaps, but we don't.

Darwin failed. He would be the first to admit it if he were alive today.
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Transitional Vertebrate Fossils FAQ

Copyright © 1994-1997 by Kathleen Hunt

[Last Update: March 17, 1997]

I wrote this FAQ as a reference for answering the "there aren't any transitional fossils" statement that pops up on talk.origins several times each year. I've tried to make it an accurate, though highly condensed, summary of known vertebrate fossil history in those lineages that led to familiar modern forms, with the known transitions and with the known major gaps both clearly mentioned. Version 6.0 of the FAQ has been almost entirely rewritten, with:

1. A completely rewritten introduction & conclusion, discussing what "transitional" means, why gaps occur, and what the fossil record shows.
2. A greatly expanded list of "chains of genera" for most groups, especially mammals.
3. References for documented species-to-species fossil transitions, mostly for mammals.
4. Explicit mention of the notable remaining gaps in the fossil record.


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Clearly evolution is real. DNA mutates, the mutations that make the organism stronger are probably incorporated in the species permanently (or until different genes prove to add strengths). The mutations that result in weakness are dropped. However, evolution doesn't explain everything. The best explanation for me is that evolution has been at least partially guided by external force.

Also note that I'm agnostic.

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"Variation within a kind" is biology 101.

And apparently beyond your understanding. You have proven nothing.


You obviously didn't read the post.

No dogs had hair - they had fur. Hair is a mutation.

Also, when two dogs cannot mate and produce viable offspring, they are essentially a new species.

You tards think evolution jumps in big leaps from one species to another. Wrong. It's slow changes over time.



No they are not a new species, they are a collection of recessive genes gathered from an isolated pool. I have studied this ad nausem.

Micro evolution is the only kind that is even possible on the scale that you talk about.

Sorry, but "essentially a new species" does not cut it. Evolution deals in absolutes, not 'essentials'
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At what point does it become a new species? Just project forward 100,000 years if this much change has occurred in 10,000.

Would you call wolves and dogs the same species?
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doesn't explain where they got the genetic instructions, dumbass!

you think the whole universe was just an accident?

thats more ignorant than flat earth
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Our genes are full of useless dna that was inserted by viruses. A mutation may one day use some of that for a new human attribute.
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You have described genetic adaptation not evolution. And a fictional 10,000 years.

This genetic adaptation can be observed in snails that change colors, cave fish that lose eyes and many others.

The dog is still a dog. There was no 10,000 years.
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Is a cat a cat? Do you call lions and tigers and domestic cats the same species?
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"Variation within a kind" is biology 101.

And apparently beyond your understanding. You have proven nothing.


You obviously didn't read the post.

No dogs had hair - they had fur. Hair is a mutation.

Also, when two dogs cannot mate and produce viable offspring, they are essentially a new species.

You tards think evolution jumps in big leaps from one species to another. Wrong. It's slow changes over time.



No they are not a new species, they are a collection of recessive genes gathered from an isolated pool. I have studied this ad nausem.

Micro evolution is the only kind that is even possible on the scale that you talk about.

Sorry, but "essentially a new species" does not cut it. Evolution deals in absolutes, not 'essentials'


At what point does it become a new species? Just project forward 100,000 years if this much change has occurred in 10,000.

Would you call wolves and dogs the same species?
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It NEVER becomes a new species....naming of species is a man made invention. A dog is a wolf is a dog.

recessive genes can become dominant over time making the original much different than the one that has been affected by variation , but even figuring a basic punnet square will show you how dominant and recessive genes can swap places given enough generations, and ending up with a dog....rather than a wolf.

They can still breed though.
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"Variation within a kind" is biology 101.

And apparently beyond your understanding. You have proven nothing.


You obviously didn't read the post.

No dogs had hair - they had fur. Hair is a mutation.

Also, when two dogs cannot mate and produce viable offspring, they are essentially a new species.

You tards think evolution jumps in big leaps from one species to another. Wrong. It's slow changes over time.


Yeah, that's why we find so many transitional forms in the fossil record, NOT. If it happened slowly over time we would see a smooth continuum of transitional fossils with no gaps, but we don't.

Darwin failed. He would be the first to admit it if he were alive today.
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BS. There are so few fossils of large animals that transitional species come and go to quickly to be recorded in great detail in the geological records.

Dinosaurs were around for millions of year but they've only found a handful of T-Rex fossils.
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It NEVER becomes a new species....naming of species is a man made invention. A dog is a wolf is a dog.

recessive genes can become dominant over time making the original much different than the one that has been affected by variation , but even figuring a basic punnet square will show you how dominant and recessive genes can swap places given enough generations, and ending up with a dog....rather than a wolf.

They can still breed though.
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Not with Beagles.
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It NEVER becomes a new species....naming of species is a man made invention. A dog is a wolf is a dog.

recessive genes can become dominant over time making the original much different than the one that has been affected by variation , but even figuring a basic punnet square will show you how dominant and recessive genes can swap places given enough generations, and ending up with a dog....rather than a wolf.

They can still breed though.


Not with Beagles.
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Just because they would rather eat beagles than mate with them does not mean they can't.
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"Variation within a kind" is biology 101.

And apparently beyond your understanding. You have proven nothing.


You obviously didn't read the post.

No dogs had hair - they had fur. Hair is a mutation.

Also, when two dogs cannot mate and produce viable offspring, they are essentially a new species.

You tards think evolution jumps in big leaps from one species to another. Wrong. It's slow changes over time.


Yeah, that's why we find so many transitional forms in the fossil record, NOT. If it happened slowly over time we would see a smooth continuum of transitional fossils with no gaps, but we don't.

Darwin failed. He would be the first to admit it if he were alive today.


BS. There are so few fossils of large animals that transitional species come and go to quickly to be recorded in great detail in the geological records.

Dinosaurs were around for millions of year but they've only found a handful of T-Rex fossils.
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First you said it's slow changes over time, now it's too quick to be recorded. That's called ad hoc reasoning to explain the lack of transitional forms.

If the fossil record is a random sample of all previous life, it should contain an even distribution of all types, transitional to modern. In fact many of those transitional forms should still be alive today. The idea that transitions happen too quickly to be recorded is pure ad hoc nonsense.
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Here's just one example for the tards: DOGS.

All domestic dog breeds have 'evolved' from wolves in the amazingly short time span of just 10,000 years through unnatural selection at the hands of humans. In fact there were very few breeds of dogs in the time of the fictional character Noah.

Believe it or not, every single breed of dog has a wolf as an ancestor! No-one with any knowledge on the issue disputes this, especially since records show how many breeds didn't exist throughout recorded history.

And the tards think it's not an example of evolution because evolution requires distinctive traits to occur or for different species to arise?

Well, for distinctive traits, just think how selective breeding has evolved some dogs with fur and some with hair and even some furless/hairless breeds. Completely different traits.

And for different species, 10,000 years hasn't been quite long enough for dogs, but regardless the species is starting to split. If you try to breed a Beagle with another type of dog, the result is generally weak with heart and other health problems and do not live very long. With continued differention along this line, they will soon be unable to breed together, therefore: a new species.

Evolution is real. This is just one example of evolution within short time spans.

Denying evolution requires some serious ignorance or self-delusion.
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It is likely that the domestication of dogs started about 20,000 years ago, not 10,000. However in every other respect you are probably correct.
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Gotta love how the OP proves himself wrong in his own post.

LOL at these people.

EVOLUTION MUST BE TRUE O MAN, THE NEW WORLD ORDER THAT WORSHIPS SATAN SAYS IT IS!
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Okay...so you're saying that it was "assisted" evolution. An intelligent designer created DOGS.
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In a manner not dissimilar to the development of modern beef cattle from the Auroch.





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