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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 704715
 Anonymous Proxy
6/17/2009 2:21 PM | | Re: So, Google's into Crop Circles Now? | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 667772
This in not proof. I would say that its probably not the same crop circle makers as those in England.
Sorry the whole Satan thing is too far out there. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 704586
 Ireland
6/17/2009 2:24 PM | | Re: So, Google's into Crop Circles Now? | Quote |
Actually as a side note, they have
I can't think of a reason for ETs confining their circles to S. England, care to hypothesise?
Why does it have to be ET's? Could be any intelligent force humans know nothing about yet. I read somewhere that the heart chakra of the earth is in that area so maybe that is a possible reason. Who knows? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 688990
I recall reading that somewhere too.
It's a cool though, although it has me wondering where all the other Earth chakras are located. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 704586
Ireland
6/17/2009 2:27 PM | | Re: So, Google's into Crop Circles Now? | Quote |
When crop circles first started they were somewhat simple
geometric shapes. Then when the personal computer (Apple/Mac for example) became available for some mysterious reason crop circles started to become more complex.
Why weren't crop circles complex when they first appeared? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 704715
I'd like to hear the cereologist explanation for this. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 704586
Ireland
6/17/2009 2:45 PM | | Re: So, Google's into Crop Circles Now? | Quote |
When crop circles first started they were somewhat simple
geometric shapes. Then when the personal computer (Apple/Mac for example) became available for some mysterious reason crop circles started to become more complex.
Why weren't crop circles complex when they first appeared?
I'd like to hear the cereologist explanation for this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 704586
Anyone?
Where did they all go?
*watches a tumbleweed roll by* |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 688990
 United Kingdom
6/17/2009 2:50 PM | | Re: So, Google's into Crop Circles Now? | Quote |
Maybe they wanted to let us gradually become accusted to the phenomena so they began with simple ones. It's a non-issue really when you consider the incredibly complexones we get now. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 704586
Ireland
6/17/2009 3:00 PM | | Re: So, Google's into Crop Circles Now? | Quote |
Maybe they wanted to let us gradually become accusted to the phenomena so they began with simple ones. It's a non-issue really when you consider the incredibly complexones we get now. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 688990
It's not a non issue, it's a good question.
As you say they are now quite complex, but they were not always so, there is a reason for this, I'm asking for the believers take on it.
Vague maybes aside, is there no official cereology explanation for this process of increased complexity over time?
Because otherwise the best answer we have is the introduction of CAD and a lot of practice. |
| Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
 United States
6/17/2009 6:29 PM | | Re: So, Google's into Crop Circles Now? | Quote |
Only thing this one was not done in 4 minutes, you can see there is a lot of cut 'n paste in this video plus the video is shown in an up speed mode.
So this proves nothing really.
How do you prove many things on the internet.
Show me a positive. Show me proof that "aliens" did them. I would like to see an alien or whatever creating a crop circle.
When crop circles first started they were somewhat simple geometric shapes. Then when the personal computer (Apple/Mac for example) became available for some mysterious reason crop circles started to become more complex.
Why weren't crop circles complex when they first appeared? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 704715
I've run into a guy who personally witnessed the making of a crop circle by "aliens". He saw balls of light, some interesting light ball gymnastics and within a couple of minutes the crop circle was complete.
And here's another proof positive, how is it than none of the alleged crop stompers never get caught.....EVER?
That alone is an impossibility. That some guys can crudely approximate these events is hardly proof that they're running around the world making crop circles.
As well, what pray tell is the motivation? 
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| Preacher Zero
User ID: 704586
Ireland
6/17/2009 6:46 PM
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Please note I am not taking a confrontational stance on this, I am only interested in the intelligent exchange of opposing viewpoints in the interest of furthering mutual understanding, mmkay?
So...
I've run into a guy who personally witnessed the making of a crop circle by "aliens". He saw balls of light, some interesting light ball gymnastics and within a couple of minutes the crop circle was complete. Quoting: Saxon (777)
Second hand testimony.
Also known as hearsay.
He could be telling lies, so could you (no disrespect.)
Cannot be factored in as proof.
And here's another proof positive, how is it than none of the alleged crop stompers never get caught.....EVER? Quoting: Saxon (777)
I fail to see how that qualifies as "proof" of anything, but I will answer anyway.
They work at night in the middle of nowhere, and tend not to announce locations beforehand.
Trespass and criminal damage come with hefty punishment.
As well, what pray tell is the motivation? Quoting: Saxon (777)
Art takes many surprising forms, did you see the barrel monster posted earlier?
(And a little income, but hardly worth mentioning)
All answered as best I can, and of course only my opinion based on what I know.
Now would you be kind enough to answer this question?
When crop circles first started they were somewhat simple geometric shapes. Then when the personal computer (Apple/Mac for example) became available for some mysterious reason crop circles started to become more complex.
Why weren't crop circles complex when they first appeared?
Last Edited by Preacher Zero on 6/17/2009 at 6:52 PM
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| Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
United States
6/18/2009 12:52 AM | | Re: So, Google's into Crop Circles Now? | Quote |
Second hand testimony.
Also known as hearsay.
He could be telling lies, so could you (no disrespect.)
Cannot be factored in as proof. Quoting: Preacher Zero
Indeed.
Art takes many surprising forms, did you see the barrel monster posted earlier?
(And a little income, but hardly worth mentioning) Quoting: Preacher Zero
Right, flying around the world trespassing on other people's property putting one's self in harms way, including losing one's life is risk and income "hardly worth mentioning". 
When crop circles first started they were somewhat simple geometric shapes. Then when the personal computer (Apple/Mac for example) became available for some mysterious reason crop circles started to become more complex.
Why weren't crop circles complex when they first appeared? Quoting: Preacher Zero
Second hand testimony.
Also known as hearsay.
You could be telling lies, (no disrespect.)
Cannot be factored in as proof.
Let's see your "extensive proof" which details how all initial crop circles were "simple geometric shapes".
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| Preacher Zero
User ID: 704586
Ireland
6/18/2009 9:52 PM
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Right, flying around the world trespassing on other people's property putting one's self in harms way, including losing one's life is risk and income "hardly worth mentioning".
High skill graffiti artists do all of those things for their art, crop circles are an even larger scale art form which require perhaps an even higher level of dedication?
Artists go to extreme lengths for their art.
When crop circles first started they were somewhat simple geometric shapes. Then when the personal computer (Apple/Mac for example) became available for some mysterious reason crop circles started to become more complex.
Why weren't crop circles complex when they first appeared?
Second hand testimony.
Also known as hearsay.
You could be telling lies, (no disrespect.)
Cannot be factored in as proof. Quoting: Saxon (777)
Touche sir.
Agreed... for now ;)
Let's see your "extensive proof" which details how all initial crop circles were "simple geometric shapes".
I trust you don't expect me to post them all here? O.o
I also hope we're going on a common definition of the word "complex", it's a bit of vague term.
If you can show me an example of a "complex" circle from a pre agreed early period I might be in a better position to answer.
Say pre 1980?
Or you can claim this one on default, easier option I guess. ;)
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| Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
United States
6/18/2009 10:10 PM | | Re: So, Google's into Crop Circles Now? | Quote |
If you can show me an example of a "complex" circle from a pre agreed early period I might be in a better position to answer.
Say pre 1980?
Or you can claim this one on default, easier option I guess. ;) Quoting: Preacher Zero
In my search and research for them during that period of time I uncovered a mention of them in early French literature (800AD). The Bishop of Lyon at that time had written to the local parish priest who was taking over his parish just outside of Lyon. The contents of the manuscript were basically to warn the new priest that there had been "devil worship" by his local parishioners who were collecting seeds out of "flattened circles" and using them for fertility rites.
I spoke to quite a few farmers who remembered seeing "odd shapes" in their fields or their parent's fields when they themselves were young but no real proof. I uncovered information from a second world war pilot who had been returning to RAF Tangmere after an aerial reconnaissance mission over Germany, as he approached the grass runway at his base he saw two flattened circles in the nearby growing cereal crop and photographed them not knowing what they were. Quoting: History of Crop Cirlces
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They were, and do not only appear during the hours of darkness, they were and still do not only appear in just summer cereal crops, but in grass, stinging nettles, winter crops such as beet and kale, sugar cane, underwater in rice paddy fields in Japan, in the snow 13,000ft up in the mountains in Afghanistan, in fact world wide, not just restricted to Southern England as quite a few people believed such as the two famous Doug & Dave. Quoting: History of Crop Cirlces
As for detailed pictures of all of those, let's just say not everyone's been on the crop circle aerial view bandwagon.
Fact, we know from the scientific research that I am involved in that they are (the genuine formations) formed by an energy, which has the ability to alter the molecular structure of the plant without damaging it and the ability to alter the growth rate and pattern. This same energy has produced numerous photographic anomalies.
Fact, There is a distortion in the earth's electromagnetic field, sometimes a ghost image a short distance from the original formation.
Fact, spheres of light have been recorded on film in the formations, also military helicopters seen flying over these spheres apparently taking quite a keen interest in them.
Fact, the energy involved appears to be benign and to my knowledge is not used on this planet.
Fact, some formations radiate a frequency at approximately 7.5hz in the electromagnetic spectrum but this can vary from formation to formation. Many researchers and the BBC Television whilst filming in a formation have recorded it. I, recently using the aid of a computer and a specialised programme, have discovered that these beautiful creations of art in the fields are capable of producing the most unusual sounds and music.
Fact, this same frequency has been picked up many times in close proximity to UFO sightings.
Fact, despite several ploughings after the crop has been harvested the shape of some of the formations have remained, in some cases, in the soil for at least six months. This cannot be achieved by "crop formations" made by humans.
Fact, in some of the formations, compasses rotate at will denoting a magnetic anomaly present, camcorders, cell phones and other battery run equipment have displayed a discharged battery state when this is not the case.
Fact, crop outside of the formation does not display the same characteristics changes in cell structure as the crop found inside.
Fact, there is no level of consistency, in some formations we have the sound factor, the magnetic anomalies, photographic anomalies and the lasting impressions in the soil but this is not to say you will find one or all of these in the next formation you visit but it can still turn out to be part of the genuine article.
Fact, if no human being goes into a formation the crop will continue to grow and the farmer will not lose any crop, only possibly what the birds will eat by the downed seeds.
Fact, farmers have combined the formations from their fields to avoid damage by the members of the public when they have occurred only to find another one appear a short distance away the following day.
Fact, mineralogist Sampath Iyengar of Technology of Materials Laboratory examined the degree of crystallinity (the ordering of atoms) in soil samples taken from within the formations using X-ray diffraction and a scanning electron microscope. He was shocked to find a temperature of between 1,500 and 1,800 degrees F would be required to alter the soil crystallinity to the level found and this of course destroy any plants in the formation.
Fact, each year human beings causing untold criminal damage to crops create a large number of formations, and my sincere sympathy goes out to the landowners. I just wish more landowners would prosecute these criminal vandals. Quoting: History of Crop Cirlces
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| Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
United States
6/18/2009 10:21 PM | | Re: So, Google's into Crop Circles Now? | Quote |
Oh, and something else which you have failed to consider, that something ELSE besides the advent of the computer brought about the increase in crop circles. You assume via your flawed mental model, which falls FAR short of explaining all those FACTS I have listed above, that the computer and a few hooligans explain all the amazing imagery seen since the 1980s.
In 1979 the first in a series of world changing EMP blasts and Gravitation waves began, along with the arrival of the first seen Kuiper Belt Alien ships at the pole of Saturn.
Could it POSSIBLY be dear sir, that those REALLY responsible for all those messages just didn't have that much to say at first? And that THAT is the reason for the limited messaging then?
Or do THOUSANDS of crop circles world wide over several decades honestly lay directly at the feet of Dave and Doug? 
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 720944
United States
7/8/2009 10:06 AM | | Re: So, Google's into Crop Circles Now? | Quote |
lifting of the veil. |
| Ouroboros
User ID: 718659
United States
7/8/2009 10:38 AM | | Re: So, Google's into Crop Circles Now? | Quote |
I read that when a mature crop is affected by this phenomenon that the seed will uniformly sprout and growth is 5+ times larger. They also have the ability to withstand extreme drought and other severe environments and abuses.
The nodes where the plants are layed down are elongated and curved, not broken. These plants are physically altered.
This warrants more consideration than we give. I believe we have dismissed crop circles when MIT students allegedly debunked them in the early '90 only to learn later that their research was flawed.
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