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TO ANYONE WHO IS HOMOSEXUAL AND PROCLAIMING TO BE CHRISTIAN I HAVE A QUESTION.

 
fallenmonk

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Now with all these scriptures does it not show Gods love for ALL?

The bible clearly shows that GOD loves each and every one of us no matter what we have done.

BUT, in the scripture that I showed it states that those who inherited Gods kingdom WERE doing these things but they then stopped. Its Gods love that gives us a chance to make a change.

It does say those practicing the bad things mentioned will not inerit Gods kingdom. That does not mean he does not love us all. But it does mean we have standards that we must meet.

So I see your point. Yes God loves us ALL. But does he not set standards that we either choose to accept or not accept?

Havig seen yur point. Can you now explain what it means when the bible says all those doing those things will not inherit his kingdom.....or is that somehow supposed to be overlooked?


God does not contradict Himself. If I call on the name of the LORD, He saves me.

I cannot figure everything out... the Bible even says that. I do believe that we have only a fraction of a glimpse of understanding the Truth.

I trust in God, and if He convicts me, I will listen.

Otherwise, I am not afraid.
 Quoting: Riker

By your logic if Hitler called to God for salvation every time he gave the order for an execution he would be saved,even after the millionth time.no?
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Re: TO ANYONE WHO IS HOMOSEXUAL AND PROCLAIMING TO BE CHRISTIAN I HAVE A QUESTION.
It's a wrong for heteros to fake being gay and it's wrong for homos to be forced to be straight...it's against their nature hence unnatural....this is what was happening in the greek times as a way of enforcing masculinity over another man, it had nothing to do with homosexuality.
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06/17/2009 05:15 PM
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Re: TO ANYONE WHO IS HOMOSEXUAL AND PROCLAIMING TO BE CHRISTIAN I HAVE A QUESTION.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10

I presume you are refering to the word sodomites? Which is a man's mistranslation of arsenokoitai which means "male prostitute" (compare with the Hebrew "quadesh" which the Greek Septuagint uses "arsenokoitai" to translate - "quadesh" means "male temple prostitute"). "Arsenokoitai" is not found in Greek writings outside the Bible.

Plus might I add that on poster wrote of love at the very start of this post and oddly you ignored it even though they quoted scripture....please don't pick and shoose what you want to read as scripture, otherwise you are just as the pharisees, following the law to the letter and not the law of christ.

Maybe you should read more because I did respond to that post quite clearly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 618413


Please use exact quotes so I may find it, I must have missed your exact response including their quote like you did with so many. Apologies
tangelo

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06/17/2009 05:22 PM
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Re: TO ANYONE WHO IS HOMOSEXUAL AND PROCLAIMING TO BE CHRISTIAN I HAVE A QUESTION.
If I sin 1,000,000 times the same sin and ask for forgiveness without repentance why should I be forgiven? Without repentance there is no forgiveness.

BUT, if I mean it the 1,000,001st time, and I truly repented, you bet I would be forgiven.

Therefore unless you are the Holy Spirit given power by God himself to convict and judge men's souls I'd say you have no business putting yourself in that position.
fallenmonk

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06/17/2009 05:27 PM
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Do homosexuals get upset when they do a play on stage making Jesus a Homosexual?Or Christain Homosexual churches changing the bible making Jesus and his followers all gay?
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Re: TO ANYONE WHO IS HOMOSEXUAL AND PROCLAIMING TO BE CHRISTIAN I HAVE A QUESTION.
If Corinthians is the be all and end all of the bible then the women who defy it will burn in hell with the homos.

1 Cor. 14:33-36

"As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. Did the word of God originate with you? Or are you the only people it has reached?"

Paul who states himself that there are sins quoted himself no better :

"I see a different law in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin which is in my members” (Romans 7:23 NASB).

Paul says that, “there was given me a thorn in the flesh, a messenger of Satan to torment me” (2 Corinthians 12:7 NASB)

Satan torments Paul but is also the master of lies....corinthans again.

"Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?"

Oh and ong haired men will go to hell....forgot
tangelo

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06/17/2009 05:29 PM
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God does not contradict Himself. If I call on the name of the LORD, He saves me.

I cannot figure everything out... the Bible even says that. I do believe that we have only a fraction of a glimpse of understanding the Truth.

I trust in God, and if He convicts me, I will listen.

Otherwise, I am not afraid.

 Quoting: riker


I agree with that comment. That's the only voice worth listening to when it comes to matters of the soul.
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Re: TO ANYONE WHO IS HOMOSEXUAL AND PROCLAIMING TO BE CHRISTIAN I HAVE A QUESTION.
Do homosexuals get upset when they do a play on stage making Jesus a Homosexual?Or Christain Homosexual churches changing the bible making Jesus and his followers all gay?
 Quoting: fallenmonk


That's a very big brush you are painting there! Pharisee!
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Re: TO ANYONE WHO IS HOMOSEXUAL AND PROCLAIMING TO BE CHRISTIAN I HAVE A QUESTION.
If a parent can forgive the untold sins of their child so God is greater than man and his love and forgiveness is infinite, unless you consider someone on earth has greater love, forgiveness and compassion than God!
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06/17/2009 05:45 PM
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If I sin 1,000,000 times the same sin and ask for forgiveness without repentance why should I be forgiven? Without repentance there is no forgiveness.

BUT, if I mean it the 1,000,001st time, and I truly repented, you bet I would be forgiven.

Therefore unless you are the Holy Spirit given power by God himself to convict and judge men's souls I'd say you have no business putting yourself in that position.
 Quoting: tangelo

Absolutely.I agree with you,we will not be doing the judging come judgement day.You lost me with the repentance though.We obviously will slip up, but how can you repent that many times you quoted on the same sin?that person would likely have a hard heart,joined satan's army or was never born again in the 1st place.You have a great week regardless.peace.
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06/17/2009 05:53 PM
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I want me some Jesus Penis!
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Re: TO ANYONE WHO IS HOMOSEXUAL AND PROCLAIMING TO BE CHRISTIAN I HAVE A QUESTION.
Luke 18:9-14


"Two men went up into the temple to pray;
one was a Pharisee, and the other was a tax collector.
The Pharisee stood and prayed to himself like this:

‘God, I thank you, that I am not like the rest of men, extortioners, unrighteous, adulterers, or even like this tax collector.
I fast twice a week. I give tithes of all that I get.’
But the tax collector, standing far away, wouldn’t even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying,

‘God, be merciful to me, a sinner!’

I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but he who humbles himself will be exalted."
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06/17/2009 06:26 PM
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Jesus died for our sins -- all of them -- including homosexuality

love peace and joy

rb
tangelo

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Re: TO ANYONE WHO IS HOMOSEXUAL AND PROCLAIMING TO BE CHRISTIAN I HAVE A QUESTION.
If I sin 1,000,000 times the same sin and ask for forgiveness without repentance why should I be forgiven? Without repentance there is no forgiveness.

BUT, if I mean it the 1,000,001st time, and I truly repented, you bet I would be forgiven.

Therefore unless you are the Holy Spirit given power by God himself to convict and judge men's souls I'd say you have no business putting yourself in that position.

Absolutely.I agree with you,we will not be doing the judging come judgement day.You lost me with the repentance though.We obviously will slip up, but how can you repent that many times you quoted on the same sin?that person would likely have a hard heart,joined satan's army or was never born again in the 1st place.You have a great week regardless.peace.
 Quoting: fallenmonk


If I sin 1,000,000 times the same sin and ask for forgiveness without repentance why should I be forgiven?

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Judge not lest ye be judged.
Anonymous Coward
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06/17/2009 06:42 PM
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i'm always amazed how people care so much about only 1 PERCENT of the population (well actually i think it's more like 10 percent - but who's counting all the closeted peeps) anywho, people who start these threads are the bullys from grade school. hopefully one day they will find enlightenment and realize they are no better than anyone else - drop ego, find happiness and love in yourself - than you will see your true GOD! (i did 14 years ago and dropped to my knees in awe - of course i had a little "jump start" to get the mind elevated but HE created the plants also)
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i'm always amazed how people care so much about only 1 PERCENT of the population (well actually i think it's more like 10 percent - but who's counting all the closeted peeps) anywho, people who start these threads are the bullys from grade school. hopefully one day they will find enlightenment and realize they are no better than anyone else - drop ego, find happiness and love in yourself - than you will see your true GOD! (i did 14 years ago and dropped to my knees in awe - of course i had a little "jump start" to get the mind elevated but HE created the plants also)
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applause
tangelo

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Re: TO ANYONE WHO IS HOMOSEXUAL AND PROCLAIMING TO BE CHRISTIAN I HAVE A QUESTION.
If I sin 1,000,000 times the same sin and ask for forgiveness without repentance why should I be forgiven? Without repentance there is no forgiveness.

BUT, if I mean it the 1,000,001st time, and I truly repented, you bet I would be forgiven.

Therefore unless you are the Holy Spirit given power by God himself to convict and judge men's souls I'd say you have no business putting yourself in that position.

Absolutely.I agree with you,we will not be doing the judging come judgement day.You lost me with the repentance though.We obviously will slip up, but how can you repent that many times you quoted on the same sin?that person would likely have a hard heart,joined satan's army or was never born again in the 1st place.You have a great week regardless.peace.
 Quoting: fallenmonk


God will take anyone up to their dying breath. How do we know what a hardened heart or the "unsaved" will do.....or how God may show mercy to a person at that time on their death bed? Hmmmmmmm?
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Jesus died for our sins -- all of them -- including homosexuality

love peace and joy

rb
 Quoting: rb 703271

This train of thought is what will lead many to their deaths come armageddon.

Yes, Jesus death gave us salvation IF we choose it. Just because he died for our sins to be cleansed does not mean we have a free pass. We still have to live life in a Godly way.

Do you forget that at armageddon most people will not survive it???? The bible tells us we have free will and we must make our own choice as to whether to accept that God gave us in letting his son be sacrificed for our sins.

Jesus gave us all a chance by his death. That doesnt mean everyone will choose life. Anyone thinking that just because jesus died that means everyone is saved is only putting their head in the sand and that is sad.

He died for our sins, and yes including homosexuals. He died so that people could repent of those sins and turn away from those sins and start serving God the right way. That is why I chose the scripture in 1 corinthians. God loves all of us ALL the time but he also has set standards and those that dont follow them will not be able to escape armageddon.





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