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Anonymous Coward User ID: 706338 Israel 06/19/2009 08:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WASHINGTON — —The phrase ”Novus Ordo Seculorum” below the Roman numerals for 1776 at the base of the pyramid translates as ”A New Order of the Ages” that began with independence, does it imply the United States will be the lynchpin of a sinister ”New World Order.” ? The keepers of the Great Seal of the United States, the emblem on the back of the US$1 bill, want you to know what it is not. It is not a sign that Freemasons run the country, it has nothing to do with the occult, and it does not contain clues to a fabulous hidden treasure. Or does it ? The NEW LINK The NEW LINK The NEW LINK The NEW LINK [link to godssecret.wordpress.com] The NEW LINK |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 707907 Israel 06/21/2009 02:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quote Masonry still bears its ominous reputation as a mystical secret society that is to be reckoned with. In the 1970’s and 80’s a Masonic lodge in Italy called the P2 came to world attention. This came about due to the collapse of the Italian bank, Banco Ambrosiano. Its managing director, Robert Calvi, who was a staunch Catholic was also a “leading personality in the P2 lodge.” Investigating the collapse of this bank and the loss of multi-millions of dollars, led to the unraveling of clandestine connections between the Masonic lodge P2 (and thus world Freemasonry), the Vatican Bank, the American C.I.A. and the Mafia. Before Robert Calvi could testify in any court about what happened to his bank and to all the missing money, he was found hanging under Blackfriars Bridge in London. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 684017 United States 06/21/2009 10:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a mason, I am really tired of conspiracy theorists just making up stuff as they go along. Freemasonry is a society of esoteric philosophy and philanthropy. Nothing more, nothing less. We are flattered to be included in your conspiracies for world domination, but we couldn't influence the local dog catcher. And no, its not just "high level masons" - there is no such thing as low level or high level masons. Thats the entire point of the fraternity, which you would find out by reading the rituals that have been made public since 1725. High level masons only exist in conspiracy theory imaginations. FACTS: 1) Masonry emerged from the stone mason guilds of medieval Europe. The ritual story about going back to King Solomon's temple is an allegory, it is not real. 2) There is no relationship between the Kabbalah and masonry. Some masons study it, most do not. Its not a part of the fraternity. 3) A small minority of the founding fathers were masons - a majority were not. Masonry had no immense influence on the founding of the country. 4) The Boston Tea Party was not a masonic event. Some members of a Boston lodge were involved, thats it. 5) Jefferson was not a mason. John Adams may have been, most likely not. 6) Freemasonic membership is not a secret. We wear rings, talk about it openly, and have bumper stickers. 7) The great seal has no masonic significance. The only member on the great seal design committee who was a mason, Franklin, had a grand total of ZERO of his suggested designs put in. 8) P2 was not a masonic lodge - it was under a clandestine and unrecognized grand lodge. 9) No relationship between the NWO and Freemasonry. The NWO is a fictitious organization to begin with. Basically, one lie after another. Why do you people believe this when the facts are so easy to find and say the exact opposite? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 708063 Israel 06/21/2009 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a mason, I am really tired of conspiracy theorists just making up stuff as they go along. Freemasonry is a society of esoteric philosophy and philanthropy. Nothing more, nothing less. We are flattered to be included in your conspiracies for world domination, but we couldn't influence the local dog catcher. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 684017And no, its not just "high level masons" - there is no such thing as low level or high level masons. Thats the entire point of the fraternity, which you would find out by reading the rituals that have been made public since 1725. High level masons only exist in conspiracy theory imaginations. FACTS: 1) Masonry emerged from the stone mason guilds of medieval Europe. The ritual story about going back to King Solomon's temple is an allegory, it is not real. 2) There is no relationship between the Kabbalah and masonry. Some masons study it, most do not. Its not a part of the fraternity. 3) A small minority of the founding fathers were masons - a majority were not. Masonry had no immense influence on the founding of the country. 4) The Boston Tea Party was not a masonic event. Some members of a Boston lodge were involved, thats it. 5) Jefferson was not a mason. John Adams may have been, most likely not. 6) Freemasonic membership is not a secret. We wear rings, talk about it openly, and have bumper stickers. 7) The great seal has no masonic significance. The only member on the great seal design committee who was a mason, Franklin, had a grand total of ZERO of his suggested designs put in. 8) P2 was not a masonic lodge - it was under a clandestine and unrecognized grand lodge. 9) No relationship between the NWO and Freemasonry. The NWO is a fictitious organization to begin with. Basically, one lie after another. Why do you people believe this when the facts are so easy to find and say the exact opposite? There are facts that say otherwise Maybe ? The 2 parts of this article say alot There are definately parts of masonry which are secret |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 708063 Israel 06/21/2009 10:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WASHINGTON — Quoting: Anonymous Coward 706338—The phrase ”Novus Ordo Seculorum” below the Roman numerals for 1776 at the base of the pyramid translates as ”A New Order of the Ages” that began with independence, does it imply the United States will be the lynchpin of a sinister ”New World Order.” ? The keepers of the Great Seal of the United States, the emblem on the back of the US$1 bill, want you to know what it is not. It is not a sign that Freemasons run the country, it has nothing to do with the occult, and it does not contain clues to a fabulous hidden treasure. Or does it ? The NEW LINK The NEW LINK The NEW LINK The NEW LINK [link to godssecret.wordpress.com] The NEW LINK |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 684017 United States 06/21/2009 10:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are facts that say otherwise Quoting: Anonymous Coward 708063Maybe ? The 2 parts of this article say alot There are definately parts of masonry which are secret No, there are not. Every masonic degree has been published. All lodges are non-profits and thus by law their book are open And no, the facts dont support this conspiracy nonsense. The facts support what I have stated. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 708012 United States 06/21/2009 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a mason, I am really tired of conspiracy theorists just making up stuff as they go along. Freemasonry is a society of esoteric philosophy and philanthropy. Nothing more, nothing less. We are flattered to be included in your conspiracies for world domination, but we couldn't influence the local dog catcher. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 684017I don't buy this. There are too many bizarre structures (Denver Airport & Israeli Supreme Court?) with masonic emblems. The construction, design, and meanings of architechtural features and artwork are all shrouded in secrecy. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 548848 United States 06/21/2009 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a mason, I am really tired of conspiracy theorists just making up stuff as they go along. Freemasonry is a society of esoteric philosophy and philanthropy. Nothing more, nothing less. We are flattered to be included in your conspiracies for world domination, but we couldn't influence the local dog catcher. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 708012You should read fellow mason John Robinson's book "Proofs of Conspiracy" published in 1798, he would disagree with you |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 684017 United States 06/21/2009 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a mason, I am really tired of conspiracy theorists just making up stuff as they go along. Freemasonry is a society of esoteric philosophy and philanthropy. Nothing more, nothing less. We are flattered to be included in your conspiracies for world domination, but we couldn't influence the local dog catcher. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 708012I don't buy this. There are too many bizarre structures (Denver Airport & Israeli Supreme Court?) with masonic emblems. The construction, design, and meanings of architechtural features and artwork are all shrouded in secrecy. Thats fine, you don't have to buy it - its more sexier to believe in a big bad masonic conspiracy than the truth. There are no masonic emblems at the Denver Airport. There is a time capsule there laid by the grand lodge of the state, much like schools have time capsules. There is no There are no masonic emblems in the Isreali Supreme Court. You want things to be shrouded in secrecy, but if the big bad conspiracy was really out there they wouldn't leave clues behind for the sheeple to find. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 684017 United States 06/21/2009 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You should read fellow mason John Robinson's book "Proofs of Conspiracy" published in 1798, he would disagree with you Quoting: Anonymous Coward 548848Yes, I suppose if I read debunked books as fact I would find that interesting. I suppose you still believe the Protocols too, despite all the evidence that it was made up? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 684017 United States 06/21/2009 11:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There isn't just one kind of freemasonry, especially in a historical context the different masonic lodges had national sponsors and were to spy on and disrupt competing nations/cultures/religions. So for example you had the pro-royality Scottish Rite vs. the mercantile Illuminati European lodge Quoting: Anonymous Coward 548848Actually yes, there is only one kind. Everything else is irregular or clandestine and not freemasonry. The Scottish Rite is not pro-royalty, its a side body of freemasonry that has no more power than any other side body. There was no Illuminati lodge, the historical Illuminati tried and failed to infiltrate freemasonry and is now disbanded. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 708012 United States 06/21/2009 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | - its more sexier to believe in a big bad masonic conspiracy than the truth. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 684017Oh yes, I find a conspiracy of world domination, culling and enslaving the masses, and forced worship of Lucifer 'more sexier'. To be sure. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 548848 United States 06/21/2009 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's extremely naive to believe that all the different lodges are just fraternal philanthropic organizations. No reasonable person would say that. Their histories are rife with espionage, blackmail, sexual conspiracy, underhanded business deals, etc. Every lodge has different sponsors. Every lodge tries to influence the other lodges. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 684017 United States 06/21/2009 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | - its more sexier to believe in a big bad masonic conspiracy than the truth. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 708012Oh yes, I find a conspiracy of world domination, culling and enslaving the masses, and forced worship of Lucifer 'more sexier'. To be sure. Actually, you do, else you wouldn't believe it. You see, the real world is complex and has multiple actors that is hard to understand. It is much easier to simply believe in a massive conspiracy with forces of Ultimate Evil. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 684017 United States 06/21/2009 11:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's extremely naive to believe that all the different lodges are just fraternal philanthropic organizations. No reasonable person would say that. Their histories are rife with espionage, blackmail, sexual conspiracy, underhanded business deals, etc. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 548848Every lodge has different sponsors. Every lodge tries to influence the other lodges. Facts are facts, and the facts don't agree with you. Name one single real case of "espionage, blackmail, sexual conspiracy, underhanded business deals, etc.". They don't occur. Its a fantasy. No lodge has sponsors, and as a matter of masonic protocol and policy no one would ever try to influence another lodge. They operate independently under the grand lodge structure. |
wingedlion/whiterider User ID: 708122 United States 06/21/2009 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a mason, I am really tired of conspiracy theorists just making up stuff as they go along. Freemasonry is a society of esoteric philosophy and philanthropy. Nothing more, nothing less. We are flattered to be included in your conspiracies for world domination, but we couldn't influence the local dog catcher. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 684017And no, its not just "high level masons" - there is no such thing as low level or high level masons. Thats the entire point of the fraternity, which you would find out by reading the rituals that have been made public since 1725. High level masons only exist in conspiracy theory imaginations. FACTS: 1) Masonry emerged from the stone mason guilds of medieval Europe. The ritual story about going back to King Solomon's temple is an allegory, it is not real. 2) There is no relationship between the Kabbalah and masonry. Some masons study it, most do not. Its not a part of the fraternity. 3) A small minority of the founding fathers were masons - a majority were not. Masonry had no immense influence on the founding of the country. 4) The Boston Tea Party was not a masonic event. Some members of a Boston lodge were involved, thats it. 5) Jefferson was not a mason. John Adams may have been, most likely not. 6) Freemasonic membership is not a secret. We wear rings, talk about it openly, and have bumper stickers. 7) The great seal has no masonic significance. The only member on the great seal design committee who was a mason, Franklin, had a grand total of ZERO of his suggested designs put in. 8) P2 was not a masonic lodge - it was under a clandestine and unrecognized grand lodge. 9) No relationship between the NWO and Freemasonry. The NWO is a fictitious organization to begin with. Basically, one lie after another. Why do you people believe this when the facts are so easy to find and say the exact opposite? Well, my step-father was a Mason, as was all his relatives; he was also a Generational Satanist of the Druid clans. He used freemasons to meet with other Satanist of like mind. He also gathered them against me since he hated me, my God, and my faith. Say what you will about how good the Freemasons are, but to me, they are all better off in Hell. I believe that the "great Lodge" is located in Hell and that all Freemasons will go there in death. Say hello to my step father when you get there (hell) will ya? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 449656 United States 06/21/2009 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In tennessee there is a masonic temple with a huge statue of a goddess! Selene is a name given to the statue of liberty by some the japanese crashed a ship called Selene in to the moon goddess on an anniversary date of some significance the Hebrews use the moon as time of feasts and the usa is shooting a rocket on oct 9th a Jewish festival. So its all a ritual and a craft and a great work and blah blah etc etc ! Silly aint it? Lots of money lives and the masonic temples are as elaborate as catholic churches! The whole fallen angel knowledge and aliens power control of the sheeple and this time matrix is too obvious! Kids are smart to this nowdays with the comics and games! I thought all the old movies and stuff science fiction ....well anyway I have a different consciousness and this stuff doesn t rattle in my brain ! Fear not Jesus says! But words are living vibrations to create just like God said and the world became ..and he said let there be light and light was! A mason takes an oath denouncing the God of Abraham and they twist it to lucifer a lesser God so NOt good! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 684017 United States 06/21/2009 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, my step-father was a Mason, as was all his relatives; he was also a Generational Satanist of the Druid clans. Quoting: wingedlion/whiterider 708122There is no such thing as Generational Satanist of the Druid clans. Druids do not believe in Satan. Satanists cannot be Freemasons. Try again. He used freemasons to meet with other Satanist of like mind. Quoting: wingedlion/whiterider 708122Since Freemasons cannot be satanists..whoops. Another lie. He also gathered them against me since he hated me, my God, and my faith. Say what you will about how good the Freemasons are, but to me, they are all better off in Hell. I believe that the "great Lodge" is located in Hell and that all Freemasons will go there in death. Say hello to my step father when you get there (hell) will ya? Quoting: wingedlion/whiterider 708122I think your problem here is you are projecting delusions of grandeur and family problems on freemasonry. The facts just don't support these delusions: as a matter of fact, freemasonry has no opinion on religion except that every man should worship freely. Please find another scapegoat. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 684017 United States 06/21/2009 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In tennessee there is a masonic temple with a huge statue of a goddess! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 449656Oh noes, you mean a piece of art in front of a masonic temple! Get the mob and burn it down! Selene is a name given to the statue of liberty by some the japanese crashed a ship called Selene in to the moon goddess on an anniversary date of some significance the Hebrews use the moon as time of feasts and the usa is shooting a rocket on oct 9th a Jewish festival. So its all a ritual and a craft and a great work and blah blah etc etc ! Silly aint it? Lots of money lives and the masonic temples are as elaborate as catholic churches! The whole fallen angel knowledge and aliens power control of the sheeple and this time matrix is too obvious! Kids are smart to this nowdays with the comics and games! I thought all the old movies and stuff science fiction ....well anyway I have a different consciousness and this stuff doesn t rattle in my brain ! Fear not Jesus says! But words are living vibrations to create just like God said and the world became ..and he said let there be light and light was! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 449656What in the world? Can you say off topic rant? A mason takes an oath denouncing the God of Abraham and they twist it to lucifer a lesser God so NOt good! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 449656Lie. No mason takes any oath denouncing any god. There are many Christian masons, including me. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 708692 Israel 06/22/2009 03:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 706338 The info is here whats the question they are a secret society with secret mystical teachings and political agenda ! What is there NWO plan is the question the top guys know the answers |