If there is no such thing as Chemtrails then why are they so clearly shown in the Masonic Death Murals of Denver International Airport.
Quoting: 9teen.47™
That's a "chemtrail?" In that case, I can honestly state that I've never seen one. It doesn't look like anything I've ever seen, nor does it even resemble the contrails in the videos you and others like to post.
That's a "chemtrail?" In that case, I can honestly state that I've never seen one. It doesn't look like anything I've ever seen, nor does it even resemble the contrails in the videos you and others like to post.
Quoting: The Guy
ROUGH HOUSE RULES. The rules are that there are no rules.
OK fellow Chemtrailers this is what SHR said on page 12...
"I don't see any trolling...you are going to have to deal with some argumentative discourse on this or any thread, just like everyone else does here, GLP is not a Pillow fight."
So what are we, a gang of woo woo's and pussies who will let reptilian turds like The Guy and SnakeAirlines/704702 walk all over us???
Or do we have a righteous cause that is worth fighting for. Come on in and join the fight...
Last Edited by 9teen.47™ on 6/26/2009 at 9:05 PM Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobaccos worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
That's a "chemtrail?" In that case, I can honestly state that I've never seen one. It doesn't look like anything I've ever seen, nor does it even resemble the contrails in the videos you and others like to post.
I wasn't speaking to you. 50 and counting
Quoting: 9teen.47™
lol
screw "the guy"
Duncan Kunz The Debunker King User ID: 8107 6/26/2009 12:56 PM
Re: CHEMTRAILS Outrage the Residents of Florence OR - (((SWINE FLU ANTIGENS SUSPECTED)))
If there is no such thing as Chemtrails then why are they so clearly shown in the Masonic Death Murals of Denver International Airport.
I keep asking, but for some strange reason Cynical Realist and all the other debunkers keep shying away from the question.
Quoting: 9teen.47™
That is a multi-faceted question with a lot of what i consider questionable assumptions on your part. I will try to answer as completely as I can.
1. Masonic Death Murals the "Masonic Death Murals" are not Masonic; they were executed by Leo tanguma, a Chicano artist chock full of what I consider a rather poor aesthetic, but that is the kind of politically-correct art that some of the richer and more guilt-ridden supporters of public art seem to like.
I think it sucks, but I don't see anything mysterious or conspirational about it -- just bad art.
I think most people see in art what they want to see. If you're a pedophile, you might look at the art as naked little kids; if you're a disaffected believer of "aztlan", you might see in the art all the evils of anglo society towards chicanos and native americans; if you're a conspiracist, you might see in that art some sort of conspiracy.
Are you familiar with Leo Tanguma? I'd assume that, as a 'researcher', you know of him and his views on his own creation.
2. Chemtrails ... clearly shown I don't think what Tanguma shows are "chem-trails" or even normal aircraft contrails -- they're just semi-abstract clouds, if that.
You know, if the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail; if you're a believer is Little Purple Spaceship guys, a lenticular cloud looks like a "cloaked spaceship"; and if you're obsessed with "chem-trails", you see "chem-trails" -- or depictions of them -- everywhere. Those western imperialist warmongers beat us to the Moon. Damn!
Duncan Kunz The Debunker King User ID: 8107 6/26/2009 1:07 PM
Re: CHEMTRAILS Outrage the Residents of Florence OR - (((SWINE FLU ANTIGENS SUSPECTED)))
Well why doesn't someone do that then. Gather up your evidence and initiate a lawsuit. I'm sure many attorneys would take the case pro bono for the publicity alone.
SHR, To be honest about it I very much doubt that society as we know it will be around in a few years. or maybe even a few months.
Quoting: 9teen.47™
What a cop-out!
None of you "chem-trail" devotees will spend $10 a month on a Flight Explorer subscription to determine just what aircraft is above your location -- in real-time. this will tell you just who is "Spraying the chemtrails".
$10 dollars a month to get real evidence which could bolster you case, and not a single "chem-trail" devotee will do it!
Is it because you are afraid that the data will invalidate your agreements -- or are you just not really interested in the truth to begin with?
None of the "chem-trail" devotees have ever initiated a project to capture "chem-trail" contents in situ and sent them to a lab with the proper documented methodology, including chain-of-evidence, data reduction and statistical analysis. this would be the smoking gun to prove if there were anything in "chem-trails" other than ice crystals, and would sut the debunkers up for good.
Is it because you are afraid that the data will invalidate your agreements -- or are you just not really interested in the truth to begin with?
Now you have a chance, using lawyers happy to take your case pro bono to present your evidence in a court of law, and yet you duck out on that, too!
All of these opportunities to actually do something serious about "chem-trails" -- something that will actually work -- and yet not a single "chem-trail" devotee is willing to actually do anything! Those western imperialist warmongers beat us to the Moon. Damn!
Anonymous Coward User ID: 704702 6/26/2009 1:30 PM
Re: CHEMTRAILS Outrage the Residents of Florence OR - (((SWINE FLU ANTIGENS SUSPECTED)))
How anyone will be able to deny the existence of Chemtrails after watching this video I'll never know.
{snip}
Quoting: 9teen.47™
Back to the video; the subject of this thread...
How is this so different from all the other video of contrails in curves and loops cited as "chemtrails"? What makes this one so convincing to the OP?
Anonymous Coward User ID: 704702 6/26/2009 4:54 PM
Re: CHEMTRAILS Outrage the Residents of Florence OR - (((SWINE FLU ANTIGENS SUSPECTED)))
They are PUSSYS to the max!@!!!I wish I could stuff just a shit load of that nonexsistant stuff right up their nose.Hey it just might happen?One never knows in the "non exsistant"WORLD of God and chemtrails anything goes;RIGHT!
You want to flood my respiratory tract with water? I could take that as a threat.
by your own mouth!
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 603629
I'm sorry you took it as a threat.Look at it as an experiment as sorts.If I coud offer you the proof that you always seem to "demand"would you be willing?Water vaper,I don't think any harm would befall you from water vaper.Some of the intersting ingredents found in those "harmless" vaper trails ...anthrex,seditives,baruim,gold,polymer fibers,medical wast,variuos bacteiria,ect..ect..there isn't enough time in a day to even research this out by various labs,independant studys,and black factions of the government.Water vaper never mentioned?
Duncan Kunz The Debunker King User ID: 10104 6/26/2009 6:01 PM
Re: CHEMTRAILS Outrage the Residents of Florence OR - (((SWINE FLU ANTIGENS SUSPECTED)))
If I coud offer you the proof that you always seem to "demand"would you be willing?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 603629
Willing to what? Believe your assertions? Well, I certainly would. That's how real science works. If your data explains a phenomenon better than mine, I have to go with your hypothesis. Do you have any of that proof to offer?
Water vaper,I don't think any harm would befall you from water vaper.Some of the intersting ingredents found in those "harmless" vaper trails ...anthrex,seditives,baruim,gold,polymer fibers,medical wast,variuos bacteiria,ect..ect..
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 603629
Do you have any evidence at all that aircraft contrails contain anthrax, sedatives, barium, gold, polymer fibers, medical waste, various bacteria, etc.?
I know that several fake "scientists" like Cliff Carneycon has found water on the ground that he claims have Bad Juju in it, but he never seems to get around to telling what lab actually did the testing, and he doesn't show any evidence that some rainwater collected in a bucket which sat around for a couple of days even came from the sky, to say nothing of whether it was found in contrails.
there isn't enough time in a day to even research this out
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 603629
There's lots of time; it's just that you people who believe in "chem-trails" aren't serious enough about your beliefs to actually spend a little money and time to do any real research.
Why is it that you "chem-trail" devotees are afraid to do any research yourself? Those western imperialist warmongers beat us to the Moon. Damn!
The Guy Mr. Know-it-All User ID: 683039 6/26/2009 6:33 PM
Re: CHEMTRAILS Outrage the Residents of Florence OR - (((SWINE FLU ANTIGENS SUSPECTED)))
I'm sorry you took it as a threat.Look at it as an experiment as sorts.If I coud offer you the proof that you always seem to "demand"would you be willing?Water vaper,I don't think any harm would befall you from water vaper.Some of the intersting ingredents found in those "harmless" vaper trails ...anthrex,seditives,baruim,gold,polymer fibers,medical wast,variuos bacteiria,ect..ect..there isn't enough time in a day to even research this out by various labs,independant studys,and black factions of the government.Water vaper never mentioned?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 603629
I'm sorry, but I have served on a US Navy destroyer, powered by gas turbine engines. A gas turbine is basically a jet engine, but using its rotation rather than its thrust. I have breathed the stack gases from jet engines. No problem. I was joking with you.
aonomous beleaver User ID: 603629 6/26/2009 7:06 PM
Re: CHEMTRAILS Outrage the Residents of Florence OR - (((SWINE FLU ANTIGENS SUSPECTED)))
I'm sorry you took it as a threat.Look at it as an experiment as sorts.If I coud offer you the proof that you always seem to "demand"would you be willing?Water vaper,I don't think any harm would befall you from water vaper.Some of the intersting ingredents found in those "harmless" vaper trails ...anthrex,seditives,baruim,gold,polymer fibers,medical wast,variuos bacteiria,ect..ect..there isn't enough time in a day to even research this out by various labs,independant studys,and black factions of the government.Water vaper never mentioned?
I'm sorry, but I have served on a US Navy destroyer, powered by gas turbine engines. A gas turbine is basically a jet engine, but using its rotation rather than its thrust. I have breathed the stack gases from jet engines. No problem. I was joking with you.
Quoting: The Guy
No ones going to win this argument...Hey its nothing personal.Been around air force bases most of my life(air force brat)Father in sac ret./decieced lt.col.I gota tell ya,i've seen contrails and i've seen somthing else.Been searching the net all day for grins.Its just incredible the nasty shit our government has done to the population over the past 50 years concerning bio/exp.Why not chemtrails?I mean they are capable of anything,I mean anything...but not chemtrails.Well its going to be a tough "debunk"!For the ones that have seen and been exposed,I guess its one of those things you have to expreince.But not always the best way to become a believer.
The Guy Mr. Know-it-All User ID: 683039 6/26/2009 7:16 PM
Re: CHEMTRAILS Outrage the Residents of Florence OR - (((SWINE FLU ANTIGENS SUSPECTED)))
No ones going to win this argument...Hey its nothing personal.Been around air force bases most of my life(air force brat)Father in sac ret./decieced lt.col.I gota tell ya,i've seen contrails and i've seen somthing else.Been searching the net all day for grins.Its just incredible the nasty shit our government has done to the population over the past 50 years concerning bio/exp.Why not chemtrails?I mean they are capable of anything,I mean anything...but not chemtrails.Well its going to be a tough "debunk"!For the ones that have seen and been exposed,I guess its one of those things you have to expreince.But not always the best way to become a believer.
Quoting: aonomous beleaver 603629
I see what you're saying, and I'm not saying "chemtrails" are impossible, just that if they were a physical phenomenon, there would be physical evidence. There is none.
td User ID: 587237 6/26/2009 7:26 PM
Re: CHEMTRAILS Outrage the Residents of Florence OR - (((SWINE FLU ANTIGENS SUSPECTED)))
I see what you're saying, and I'm not saying "chemtrails" are impossible, just that if they were a physical phenomenon, there would be physical evidence. There is none.
Quoting: The Guy
people have picked up cobwebby things - of course i realise
they didn't make the cover of newsweek ( probably not newsworthy enough - i mean, who's interested in cobwebby things floating down
out of the sky out of planes)
.
The Guy Mr. Know-it-All User ID: 683039 6/26/2009 7:31 PM
Re: CHEMTRAILS Outrage the Residents of Florence OR - (((SWINE FLU ANTIGENS SUSPECTED)))
people have picked up cobwebby things - of course i realise
they didn't make the cover of newsweek ( probably not newsworthy enough - i mean, who's interested in cobwebby things floating down
out of the sky out of planes)
.
Quoting: td 587237
Cobwebby things. Let me guess, from their lawns? Is there any clear chain of evidence linking those cobwebby things to an airplane? No? That's what I mean.
aonomous beleaver User ID: 603629 6/26/2009 7:40 PM
Re: CHEMTRAILS Outrage the Residents of Florence OR - (((SWINE FLU ANTIGENS SUSPECTED)))
There's a thread right now about some reporter who sueing the UN FOR CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY!Again our government is implacated for spreading bio/chem into the air.
bd User ID: 587237 6/26/2009 7:48 PM
Re: CHEMTRAILS Outrage the Residents of Florence OR - (((SWINE FLU ANTIGENS SUSPECTED)))
Cobwebby things. Let me guess, from their lawns? Is there any clear chain of evidence linking those cobwebby things to an airplane? No? That's what I mean.
Quoting: The Guy
how could it be clear - after all, the sky is full of all these
darn chemtrails ?
(and the noise of the planes pumping up the volumes
is simply deafening)
.
aonomous beleaver User ID: 603629 6/26/2009 7:59 PM
Re: CHEMTRAILS Outrage the Residents of Florence OR - (((SWINE FLU ANTIGENS SUSPECTED)))
people have picked up cobwebby things - of course i realise
they didn't make the cover of newsweek ( probably not newsworthy enough - i mean, who's interested in cobwebby things floating down
out of the sky out of planes)
.
Cobwebby things. Let me guess, from their lawns? Is there any clear chain of evidence linking those cobwebby things to an airplane? No? That's what I mean.
Quoting: The Guy
How about some type of chemical compounds,I mean how would anyone know?You really can't defend that position?
The Guy Mr. Know-it-All User ID: 683039 6/26/2009 8:00 PM
Re: CHEMTRAILS Outrage the Residents of Florence OR - (((SWINE FLU ANTIGENS SUSPECTED)))
how could it be clear - after all, the sky is full of all these
darn chemtrails ?
(and the noise of the planes pumping up the volumes
is simply deafening)
.
Quoting: bd 587237
I don't know how you hear those planes. If I'm watching a plane is making a contrail, I never hear any noise from it.
The Guy Mr. Know-it-All User ID: 683039 6/26/2009 8:02 PM
Re: CHEMTRAILS Outrage the Residents of Florence OR - (((SWINE FLU ANTIGENS SUSPECTED)))
If I coud offer you the proof that you always seem to "demand"would you be willing?
Willing to what? Believe your assertions? Well, I certainly would. That's how real science works. If your data explains a phenomenon better than mine, I have to go with your hypothesis. Do you have any of that proof to offer?
Water vaper,I don't think any harm would befall you from water vaper.Some of the intersting ingredents found in those "harmless" vaper trails ...anthrex,seditives,baruim,gold,polymer fibers,medical wast,variuos bacteiria,ect..ect..
Do you have any evidence at all that aircraft contrails contain anthrax, sedatives, barium, gold, polymer fibers, medical waste, various bacteria, etc.?
I know that several fake "scientists" like Cliff Carneycon has found water on the ground that he claims have Bad Juju in it, but he never seems to get around to telling what lab actually did the testing, and he doesn't show any evidence that some rainwater collected in a bucket which sat around for a couple of days even came from the sky, to say nothing of whether it was found in contrails.
there isn't enough time in a day to even research this out
There's lots of time; it's just that you people who believe in "chem-trails" aren't serious enough about your beliefs to actually spend a little money and time to do any real research.
Why is it that you "chem-trail" devotees are afraid to do any research yourself?
Quoting: Duncan Kunz
Ya I heard that arguement,gota have proff,but If it's true and it would be an hanes crime at that,who would know?If it truly is being done do you think anyone would admit to it?Wouldn't your side of the arguement be on the side of the government?
These trails occur in areas with little or no commercial air traffic.
There have been lab tests showing what is in the chemtrails.
There have been documented and published government admissions of chemtrailing.
You debunkers are really nothing but shills. You haven't done any studies to prove your contentions. I doubt that you ever will, because it would prove you wrong.
I would suggest that you start caring about your children and grandchildren enough to put your money and time where your lying mouths are. Will it take losing one of your own to respiratory illness caused by chemtrail poisoning before you people wake up ?
The government admits it. Get It ? Your government has made fools out of you, making you look ignorant, debunkers.
1 + 1 really is 2.
Wake Up !
These trails occur in areas with little or no commercial air traffic.
There have been lab tests showing what is in the chemtrails.
There have been documented and published government admissions of chemtrailing.
You debunkers are really nothing but shills. You haven't done any studies to prove your contentions. I doubt that you ever will, because it would prove you wrong.
I would suggest that you start caring about your children and grandchildren enough to put your money and time where your lying mouths are. Will it take losing one of your own to respiratory illness caused by chemtrail poisoning before you people wake up ?
The government admits it. Get It ? Your government has made fools out of you, making you look ignorant, debunkers.
1 + 1 really is 2.
Wake Up !
Quoting: Texas Uncensored
Link?
I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be a smart-alec. But really, can you back up any of the things you've said? I can back up what I say.
I see you are still here you reptilian turd at 57 flushes.
Last Edited by 9teen.47™ on 6/26/2009 at 8:29 PM Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobaccos worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
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