Smithjones, point taken. By and large, you are correct. But sometimes pointing out how deliberately ignorant these shills are is a great release.
You know I've been at GLP a long time. I rarely expect the mods to step in. But enough is enough. They are spamming. They are not taking part in the discussion. They are not bringing anything to the table other than continued ignorance.
We are all aware that the closer to the truth, the more they spam.
Quoting: Texas Uncensored
Cool, let's discuss. What makes you think normal contrails don't linger?
Anonymous Coward User ID: 704702 6/26/2009 10:04 PM
Re: CHEMTRAILS Outrage the Residents of Florence OR - (((SWINE FLU ANTIGENS SUSPECTED)))
Yet another chemtrail thread where nothing at all gets accompished through text based time-wasting. I myself believe there is indeed a chemtrail program. I also believe that to "fight" about the reality of chemtrails in a text-based format is such an utter waste of time that it's laughable. If such people as G. House and The Guy are actually shills for the government, why bother arguing with these people?
[/rant over]
Quoting: §mithjones
Smithjones,
In a normal world I would agree with you. But the fact is that a fight "is good for business." I originated this thread and I got my basic message over on page one.
The way things work is that we actually need the trolls, it's a bit like professional wrestling. All the shouting and slanging draws in the crowd. That's how you get the high page view numbers.
It's all about getting out the message.I know it all sounds a bit cynical, but that's the way the cookie crumbles.
SHR himself said GLP ain't a pillow fight. Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobaccos worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
tt User ID: 587237 6/26/2009 10:05 PM
Re: CHEMTRAILS Outrage the Residents of Florence OR - (((SWINE FLU ANTIGENS SUSPECTED)))
The way things work is that we actually need the trolls, it's a bit like professional wrestling. All the shouting and slanging draws in the crowd. That's how you get the high page view numbers.
It's all about getting out the message.I know it all sounds a bit cynical, but that's the way the cookie crumbles.
SHR himself said GLP ain't a pillow fight.
Quoting: 9teen.47™
If that's how you feel, stop shilling and get back to the discussion.
Or as Ghandi so wisely said, "The response to tyranny is non-aggressive, non-violent non-cooperation."
My advice:
1. Do not respond to the trolls.
2. Pretend they are not here.
3. Ignore their attempts to disrupt the thread.
fwiw “ Put on the whole armor of God … for our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world rulers of this present darkness, against the wickedness of the evil spirits in the heavens. …” ~ from Ephesians 6:11-12
Are their paychecks really big enough to make self brainwashing & public stupidity a viable alternative life style, or did the government hire them because they really are that stupid?
Quoting: Texas Uncensored
That's the most annoying part of any conspiracy theory, the "shill clause." Any one who disagrees is automatically assumed to be paid to do so.
Can you imagine a doctoral candidate presenting his thesis, and yelling "Shill!" whenever a PhD challenged the thesis?
Anonymous Coward User ID: 704702 6/26/2009 10:15 PM
Re: CHEMTRAILS Outrage the Residents of Florence OR - (((SWINE FLU ANTIGENS SUSPECTED)))
Are their paychecks really big enough to make self brainwashing & public stupidity a viable alternative life style, or did the government hire them because they really are that stupid?
Quoting: Texas Uncensored
i think some of them are the actual volunteer unpaid shilltrolls - feared by posters of old , spoken of in hushed tones in valhalla
.
9teen.47™ Time is short. User ID: 712696 6/26/2009 10:29 PM
Re: CHEMTRAILS Outrage the Residents of Florence OR - (((SWINE FLU ANTIGENS SUSPECTED)))
Ah I see that SnakeAirlines / 704702 has slithered back out from under his rock. Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobaccos worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
9teen.47™ Time is short. User ID: 712696 6/26/2009 10:47 PM
Re: CHEMTRAILS Outrage the Residents of Florence OR - (((SWINE FLU ANTIGENS SUSPECTED)))
Are their paychecks really big enough to make self brainwashing & public stupidity a viable alternative life style, or did the government hire them because they really are that stupid?
Quoting: Texas Uncensored
Hi Texas Uncensored,
Actually the answers to your questions are yes and yes.
I cannot go into details because it would ID people in a public forum. But I do have some recent experience of observing a small town Freemason back in 2003 to 2005 who was of the "Warrior on the Block" grade.
Basically the guy was a real sleezeball and conman. The type of person you would soon learn to steer clear from, even if you didn't know about the Masonic connection.
He had a house and various failed small businesses. He had no money, but he always had some money. I guess you can figure it out. Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobaccos worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
The Guy Mr. Know-it-All User ID: 683039 6/26/2009 11:01 PM
Re: CHEMTRAILS Outrage the Residents of Florence OR - (((SWINE FLU ANTIGENS SUSPECTED)))
Cool, let's discuss. What makes you think normal contrails don't linger?
Quoting: The Guy
Why don't you stick your head in one and find out. Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobaccos worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
The Guy Mr. Know-it-All User ID: 683039 6/26/2009 11:03 PM
Re: CHEMTRAILS Outrage the Residents of Florence OR - (((SWINE FLU ANTIGENS SUSPECTED)))
Why don't you stick your head in one and find out.
Quoting: 9teen.47™
I already have. I used to work on a ship that used gas turbine engines. If the ship had somehow been operating at 40,000ft., it would've made a contrail.
9teen.47™ Time is short. User ID: 712696 6/26/2009 11:19 PM
Re: CHEMTRAILS Outrage the Residents of Florence OR - (((SWINE FLU ANTIGENS SUSPECTED)))
Why don't you stick your head in one and find out.
I already have. I used to work on a ship that used gas turbine engines. If the ship had somehow been operating at 40,000ft., it would've made a contrail.
Quoting: The Guy
Was it this one?
Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobaccos worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
I didn't know that he had one. I thought that he was a reptilian walk in. Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobaccos worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
The Guy Mr. Know-it-All User ID: 683039 6/27/2009 12:11 AM
Re: CHEMTRAILS Outrage the Residents of Florence OR - (((SWINE FLU ANTIGENS SUSPECTED)))
You've subverted your own thread. Instead of discussing the subject, you're doing nothing but hurling insults. If that's all you have, just admit it.
Quoting: The Guy
No it's creepy little reptilian sh*ts like you and SnakeAirlines/704702 who have subverted this thread with about 120 spamming posts between you.
Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobaccos worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
These trails occur in areas with little or no commercial air traffic.
Prove it. I suppose you've acutlly used a program like Flight Explorer and checked for yourself? No?
There have been lab tests showing what is in the chemtrails.
Not any where the sample was actually collected directly from a trail despite "promises" to do so for at least 6 years.
There have been documented and published government admissions of chemtrailing.
None that I've heard of. The only thing close is the supposed admission by the German air force where the German word for chaff was mistranslated (deliberately?) to mean "chemtrails". End result was they admitted nothing about "chemtrails".
You debunkers are really nothing but shills. You haven't done any studies to prove your contentions. I doubt that you ever will, because it would prove you wrong.
No studies? I've studied BOTH sides for years since I first heard about "chemtrails". I studied both sides through college while pursuing my degree in aviation. I've continued to study. One side has photoshopped pictures, "anonymous" sources, no physical evidence, outright lies (contrails always dissipate, never happened before the late 90's). The other side has pictures dating back to WWII, 70+ years of hard science, and actual physical evidence including samples taken directly from trails.
I live in an area with restricted air use, near the Bush Sr. home area. We are not anywhere near a major airport, the outskirts of the city.
Our air traffic is sparce, mostly small private planes and corporate flights.
We are not on a commercial route.
We do have chemtrail planes that fly back and forth over a very small area directly above me.
Quoting: Texas Uncensored
So you live near Houston (where Bush Sr. is supposed to live) and you don't think there are commercial routes above you? How naive.
[link to flighttraining.aopa.org]
That is just a rough diagram of the high altitude jet routes. ATC can and often does route traffic outside of jet routes. Houston is a busy area on that map. Your comments also seem to indicate that because you're not near the airport that you should see less traffic. You do realize that Houston is not the center of the universe right? Planes don't have to stop at Houston. Many will fly right over.
Of course you've never bothered to check any of those flights against a program like Flight Explorer have you?
So, if you want proof, you'll have to come here to see it. Or find your own viewing spot, which clearly you haven't done, and won't do.
Quoting: Texas Uncensored
Oh but I have. What I see always conforms to the science behind contrail formation though.
If you need residue from flying through the middle of a chemtrail, then it is you who has to rent the plane and equipment to do so.
Quoting: Texas Uncensored
Why should I do your research for you? You're the one making the extraordinary claim. Did you miss the part where I mentioned actual physical evidence including samples directly form trails? Contrails are sampled regularly by real scientists. They don't find the stuff you claim should be in them.
If you are waiting to 'hear' about it on the news, don't hold your breath. But, if you want to read about it, which you don't, those links can be found in this thread and many others. You are the one ignoring the evidence.
Quoting: Texas Uncensored
I've read the links. Same old shit the "chemtrail" believers have had for years. Short on science, high on opinion.
There are plenty of videos showing commercial planes flying near chemtrailers. Plenty of photos. Do your own research. But you won't.
Quoting: Texas Uncensored
And what is a photo or video showing a commercial plane flying "near" another supposed to prove? That "chemtrail" believers don't understand that two planes can look like they are right next to each other but be thousands of feet apart? They prove that everyday.
Your purpose is spam and shillism.
Quoting: Texas Uncensored
Because just having a different opinion than you isn't possible without being a shill right? Just when you think batshit crazy can't get any crazier Emily
goes and ups the ante.
The Guy Mr. Know-it-All User ID: 683039 6/27/2009 12:37 AM
Re: CHEMTRAILS Outrage the Residents of Florence OR - (((SWINE FLU ANTIGENS SUSPECTED)))
Thank you. Now, this dude is nearly hysterical because he sees that a plane flew in a spiral path. Not only that, but it did so in air that was colder than -40 and was supersaturated with respect to ice! The fact that he and others can be duped so thoroughly, without even questioning if what they've read or been told is true, that's what's disgusting.
td User ID: 587237 6/27/2009 12:49 AM
Re: CHEMTRAILS Outrage the Residents of Florence OR - (((SWINE FLU ANTIGENS SUSPECTED)))
Contrails are sampled regularly by real scientists.
Quoting: 341923
of course they are, dear -
and if some biochemical warfare department wanted to do experiments ( in the interests of public health), they'd notice - and quickly put a stop to all that
- wouldn't they ?
.
The Guy Mr. Know-it-All User ID: 683039 6/27/2009 12:52 AM
Re: CHEMTRAILS Outrage the Residents of Florence OR - (((SWINE FLU ANTIGENS SUSPECTED)))
Contrails are sampled regularly by real scientists.
of course they are, dear -
and if some biochemical warfare department wanted to do experiments ( in the interests of public health), they'd notice - and quickly put a stop to all that
- wouldn't they ?
.
Quoting: td 587237
Wouldn't you?
9teen.47™ Time is short. User ID: 712696 6/27/2009 1:04 AM
Re: CHEMTRAILS Outrage the Residents of Florence OR - (((SWINE FLU ANTIGENS SUSPECTED)))
Thank you. Now, this dude is nearly hysterical because he sees that a plane flew in a spiral path. Not only that, but it did so in air that was colder than -40 and was supersaturated with respect to ice! The fact that he and others can be duped so thoroughly, without even questioning if what they've read or been told is true, that's what's disgusting.
Quoting: The Guy
That's a load of friggin crap creepy guy and you know it.
How come just a few months back you lying tards where saying that this cold air crap was an exceptional circumstance on other chemtrail threads. But now you have morphed it into "it's always like that."
You are just a self serving, lying little twat. Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobaccos worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
The Guy Mr. Know-it-All User ID: 683039 6/27/2009 1:04 AM
Re: CHEMTRAILS Outrage the Residents of Florence OR - (((SWINE FLU ANTIGENS SUSPECTED)))
FRIDAY NIGHT FIGHT THREAD...This is not for the faint hearted. SHR said GLP is not a pillow fight. So polish off your knuckledusters and bring your baseball bat.
Please just ignore the trolling posts from The Guy and SnakeAirlines who also posts misleadingly as anonymous coward 704702. They are leaches and liars who hardly ever start threads of their own because they are two of GLPs worst FORUM BULLIES.
Quoting: 9teen.47™
"LET'S HAVE OURSELVES A SPIRITED DEBATE! but ignore the people who don't agree with me"
You're such a hypocrite.
The Guy Mr. Know-it-All User ID: 683039 6/27/2009 1:09 AM
Re: CHEMTRAILS Outrage the Residents of Florence OR - (((SWINE FLU ANTIGENS SUSPECTED)))
How come just a few months back you lying tards where saying that this cold air crap was an exceptional circumstance on other chemtrail threads. But now you have morphed it into "it's always like that."
You are just a self serving, lying little twat.
Quoting: 9teen.47™
How do you explain days when there are no contrails at all? I'd say that's even more suspicious than seeing contrails form clouds. It is uncommon, but predictable. How come I see planes flying the same routes, whether there are no contrails, short contrails, or lingering contrails? I'll tell you: It depends on the condition of the air through which they are flying.
I invite you to point out any lie I've told. You can't, because I have never told a lie on this forum.
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Smithjones,
Ah I see that SnakeAirlines / 704702 has slithered back out from under his rock.
Hi Texas Uncensored,
Why don't you stick your head in one and find out.
No it's creepy little reptilian sh*ts like you and SnakeAirlines/704702 who have subverted this thread with about 120 spamming posts between you.