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| bobbyz
User ID: 120457
 United States
7/10/2009 9:07 AM | | Re: The Two Obama's. at least | Quote |
Im sorry but that is just ridiculous.... and no i will not attempt to show why I think that.
Words are just estimations of meaning. |
| dogbert
User ID: 673526
United States
7/10/2009 9:09 AM | | Re: The Two Obama's. at least | Quote |
this would explain the non stop teleprompter usage.
the prompters would have hypnotic suggestions broadcast,
to remind the speaker to behave a certain way.
and of course remove the impromptu snafus. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 722443
United States
7/10/2009 9:10 AM | | Re: The Two Obama's. at least | Quote |
The most famous openly documented case was Churchill during WW2.
BTW no need for cloning etc if they are shapeshifting 
There are many reasons for them to clone. One is so that a person can be two places at the same time when needed.
Obama does have a clone. Take a look at what this link says about cloning. Click on article archives and click on C, then on clones:
[link to www.grt-intel.com]
Clones and Holograms
Other information was heard that suggests that Hillary (clowny-clone-double) may be 'retired' from public view within the next 7-10 days, permanently. (Feb. 15, 2009.)
A question was asked about the current voting in Congress. Will these votes today and tomorrow be deciding the fates of many in Congress? An answer from Lady Master Nada was cited which indicated that this is the case. You may recall that we have previously reported that many members of Congress were 'deceased' and that clones -- about 223 -- and 180 holograms {total around 400} -- have replaced most members ... in the past year.
The current 'clones' could become 'holograms' very soon. Many if not all of the Senate/House (clones/holograms) could be no more, if the current votes reveal that no change has occurred since last year. Very serious moments we are in, and negotiations and warnings are ended. (Jan. 29, 2009.)
Benazir Bhutto[‘s] clone was killed while she was running for President of Pakistan. (Jan. 25, 2009.)
It is very difficult to differentiate clones and holograms from doubles.
We have been seeing many of each. "W" solid holograms "A" & "Z" have been inserted into many recent events since the "Bailout bill" fracas in D.C. after which we have only seen the final W solid hologram "Z" until 7 AM on 1/20 when the last clone of W was seen walking around the WH grounds openly weeping. He knew then that he was going to soon be gone.
As to Hillary, a similar situation has used several different ones in the same period. The last Hillary clone was arrested and taken to the Hague for War Crimes trial and was convicted and executed. What is out in public now is a solid hologram. Both Bill and Chelsea Clinton are aware of this. Her moment is nigh.
Bill Clinton has had several clones but the original is still alive. One of his 5 clones has been seen most prominently. The Original Bill is a double agent and will be a part of the Announcement team. He is overlighted by St Germain, who is fully present with an office in D.C. and in VA and appears to Congress and others.
Another clone of Bill is in the Hague.
A clone of JFK Sr was killed in Dallas. The original is still in physical body at age 91 and will come forward after NESARA's Announcement to tell his story.
Both RFK Jr and Caroline have met with him on several occasions and he is advising them on coming events. (Jan. 22, 2009.)
Again, as we have reported: Hillary will soon be called to account and bow off the stage. She is a solid hologram and will not turn her hat around. (Jan. 22, 2009.)
This subject is going to be very much in the news in the coming weeks and months. I should warn everyone up front that this information takes time to absorb and the enormity of it is quite daunting.
First: Clones are tied to the Original DNA donor. The names mentioned are part of a long list, especially in top gov't positions and in top Entertainment levels. Both Light and Dark Hats have and are using this practice, for a very long segment of our planetary history.
Solid-Holograms are generated from 'scans' of 'target' individuals. These ones are controlled, remotely, by the King of Swords, for positive continuity purposes. That is, many removals that would be quite [shocking] to our economy, our leadership, and the need for secrecy until solutions are ready to go public.
By the time most read this, most of the 'removals of the worst villains' will already have occurred and solid-holograms have been put in place so that business and administration can continue. Holographic projections are often used for TV background appearances where the ones shown may be unavailable and protocols require these 'picture people' to be present.
Often old videos of the same persons are seen on TV without any explanation with the intent that you'll accept the inference of presence without the substance.
Doubles/Standins and clones are also used when presidents or key people need to be seen in one place while they are secretly handling sensitive business or meetings elsewhere.
I won't go into all the different types of clones; how long it takes to make them; where they are created, and all the ancillary issues involved.
As to the two individuals mentioned in the enquiry [JFK and Elvis Presley], it was 'seen' by the 'Overseers' that an 'exit' of the Originals was appropriate due to a 'foreseen' event of some kind.
A clone was put into place before each of those 'death events' and both of the named ones are very much alive and will be 'resurfacing'. Elvis, the Original, is now 74 and living in South America. JFK Sr is 91 and, after NESARA's Announcement, will be publicly coming forward to tell all he knows. …
The Original Hillary was actually arrested for war crimes and taken to the Hague, tried and executed. Her clone was keyed to her and died also. The one you now see is a Solid Hologram.
Nevertheless, as Mother Sekhmet stated last night on SGRT CC, there is a good chance that she will temporarily 'be appointed as Sec'y of State for very valid purposes in connection with the exposure of 911 criminal actions. Many of Obama's current top selections are likewise a part of a greater exposure series just ahead of us. (Jan 9, 2009.)
Many of us did not know--until now--that there were a total of 21 Holographic-clones of George W. Bush used for various "Appearance functions" like the recent ones in Texas in which he was campaigning for a Republican candidate...and getting on/off Air Force One. (Oct. 7, 2008.) Upon close questioning, Mother Sekhmet agreed that Arrests did take place and that all Holograms (Solid or projected) have replaced them and that KOS controls the 'on/off' switch. (Oct. 16, 2008.)
Something else, I may or may not have mentioned before, is that only about 50 members of Congress are still alive. Many {480+} were killed and cloned and many are solid holograms. When Ashtar/Nada/Sananda/Mother Sekhmet/Red/Green/KOS say they are taking care of business, that's what they mean. Everything will be announced at once. It will already be a done deal. (June 6, 2008.)
Ms Bhutto {a clone of her was killed by Pakistanis that ended her election run for president of Pakistan}. (Mar 14, 2008.)
Diana and Dodi [Faed] {yes, we know that clones were substituted in the car crash execution}. (Mar 14, 2008.)
Hitler is still alive and in his 90s, I believe. He'll be back to take his bow, before getting his next 'assignment'. Tesla and some of his scientist buddies faked their deaths {clones} and are also still alive and working underground with shuttle craft and such. They all will come back on stage for the finale after First Contact. So will Princess Diana/Dodi Fayed step forth to tell their truth. (June 18, 2008.)
Any one on the Committee of 300 would make headlines if their 'absence' was revealed. They are the heads of state, business, religion and much more on this planet.
Galactic intervention [e.g., hologram, cloning] has been allowed under various dispensations since 8/87 (Harmonic Convergence/Concordance) and the most recent star gate and other clear Interventions.
In regard to 4D cloning and solid-holographic technologies, both dark and light have been using these technologies for a long time.
The Russians were the first of the planetary governments to plan and use advanced ET technologies to create 'copies' and direct downloading of information/knowledge content into 'prepared vessels' in foreign governments. This is explosive information which has also found its way into US Cabal secret labs.
The X7 facility underground in Siberia was the most advanced terrestrial facility with this capability (it is now under Ashtar Command control). US secret national labs also have ET-genetics experiment programs in several areas and routinely use ET genetic material in new secret operational craft, which we have discussed.
Clone armies were created by Bush Sr. and have been 'removed' by GF. They have several mind-control programs in operation at this moment.
Higher-dimensional science isn't limited to the [3D] 'rules.' We live and breathe and have our expressions in a holographic universe. That means WE are holographic entities that are 'solid'. That does not mean that we are not real.
Area 51 ET-derived technologies are very real and very present.
5D consciousness will correct [our] understandings and knowledge base. It is happening in every second and cannot be stopped.
There are at least 5-6 types of clones in use. Some deteriorate in 90 days or less and have to be replaced. Some last 6 months and a very few last for a few years.
The Dark Hats do influence the clones they have made. That isn't full control; only influence. The higher priority the subject is, the more ways there are to influence them.
So, the white hats have also used these technologies and also try to encourage the replacements to choose the more appropriate paths. Jimmy Carter is a clone who knows he is one. He is an example of a 'successful positive' outcome and one that has been sustained for many years.
Quantum effects can be generated by higher-dimensional physics. They can be keyed to a single point, remote control, such as the King of Swords has. He is given local authority by the Ashtar Command and he and all his men have received training aboard the New Jerusalem and are telepathically linked to each other and to GF, in real time.
You can see that there is no single answer to these questions. It is not yet--but almost is--the moment to reveal these matters to the public.
As far as where the 'originals' have 'gone', we are eternal souls and we exist on many levels, dimensions and densities, in many formats. When the physical focus is 'depowered', the soul matrix continues. You simply are 'here' without a physical vehicle. Your Oversoul 'recalls you' to a review and re-orientation before you move to your next expression.
Since all times and spaces are simultaneously existing, there is no interruption in continuity...no matter how it appears here. When the physical hologram is 'depowered' it ceases to exist on this level. (April 17, 2009.) |
| impetigo
User ID: 519854
United States
7/10/2009 9:15 AM | | Re: The Two Obama's. at least | Quote |
just like bush had body-doubles
and so does Prince Charles,
whether it's clones or look
a likes, shapeshifter...it's true.
In a not so pleasant part of my
past, I dated someone who use
to protect the connected,they
told me doubles were routinely
used...until I was doubled-on
by this person myself I would never have
believed it. |
| Candace
User ID: 272605
United States
9/8/2009 6:42 PM | | Re: The Two Obama's. at least | Quote |
Today, Pelosi and Reid were interviewed after leaving a discussion with ONE of the Obama's, assumably the "real one" which still isn't "real."
Well, neither are Pelosi and Reid. These ones have obviously been changed out, and while it was obvious before in Pelosi, this is a NEW change out in her. And this change out looks even less like her. Fuller face with bumps on it. Had I not been told they were Pelosi and Reid, I am not sure I would have recognized them, so bad are the copies. It is NOT OK to kill and copy people, folks.
Now this is NOT about have a double for the president, to "protect" him. These are change outs, and to what purpose, CONTROL over them. When are people going to decide this is NOT OK, or even notice. You would think with some folks noticing the dark haired and grey haired Obamas, there would be outrage and questions. Proves people are really, really blind.
Last Edited by Candace on 9/8/2009 at 6:45 PM
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| Saura~
User ID: 751472
United States
9/8/2009 6:45 PM | | Re: The Two Obama's. at least | Quote |
Tonight's Obama at the Correspondents Dinner is NOT the same man who made a live speech this morning to a mexican group.
Tonights has greyer LONGER hair of a different texture, a different voice (lower, I think the thinner shoulders I have mentioned before, but the padded suit jacket makes this hard to tell.
There have been lookalike and cloning games going on in this world since the 1970's. Jimmy Carter was cloned several times and several of them were made during his term with some "funny" results. I know age changes people, but if you look carefully at Carter now and the pics from the very beginning of his presidency, this is NOT the same man. Face is too long for starters.
There were Three Bushes running for election in 2004. I often saw two on the same day if more than one event was scheduled. A huge clue was the nose. One had a nice little nose, the other the larger partially "hooked' one were are used to looking at, and one had lopsided ears that were larger than the other one etc.
There were two McCains running on the Republican ticket too. Those of you who voted for him, which one did YOU vote for? did you have a choice? McCain #1 or #2?
This is NOT funny. Americans are incredibly deceived and we aren't the only ones. Somebody spotted two French presidents once, a look alike was on a boat with whoever here during a visit.
Reagan was killed and replaced. So was the last Pope. This is common. It is time to watch and become aware.
I am asking for a pin on this thread and it needs to stay pinned until several here spend some time observing this. I have posted on this on other threads already.
And another posted wondering why the Obama's voice was so different on the trip to Eqypt resently. One of the reasons for the cloning, is to provide doubles for big political stuff, in case there is risk of nepharious activity, thus keep the original, IF the original is still around, alive. Daddy Bush still has at least one living double.
A daddy Bush clone was poisoned in Japan during his presidency. Do any of you remember the story of his becoming ill at a state dinner there? Will he DIED but they had a convenient replacement for him.
The cloning labs under Camp David are now closed as all the others underground in this world by star fleet. I don't know if this copy is a synthetic, made by injecting the real Obama's DNA into a look alike plus some surgery,
or a clone created when Obama was cloned before the 2004 DNC when we found out he was going to be our next president. You all didn't elect this man fair and square, you were mind controlled to do so.
But I suspect this is a synthetic, because I see Arab hair showing on one of them, not negro hair.
Here is one link to read, I may have others someplace.
[ link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]
Kissinger is a clone too. As are the many of the Rockefellers for a short list. So was Cheney. He died of heart trouble, and actually the current one is not a clone but a lookalike. Remember months ago when everyone was wondering where he was? Will his clone died and they kept quiet until they made a synthetic lookalike.
BULLSHIT! lol
The clones would have to have been made shortly after the birth of the original and I doubt seriously you could plan that far in advance to get a guaranteed Pres. out of the deal.
Where do you come up with this stuff?
Last Edited by Saura~ on 9/8/2009 at 6:46 PM
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| Candace
User ID: 272605
United States
9/8/2009 7:31 PM | | Re: The Two Obama's. at least | Quote |
A clone can be made in 48 hours. From a single cell, Russians learned and did it many long years ago now.
Plus there are other techniques, because the cloning labs were closed. They work a little slower, plastic surgery etc, plus synthetics, where you add the desired DNA from one person and the other person will began to take on the characteristics being copied.
Seeking Visionaries, who can and will create the many moronic missions I need to heap on Earth and her peoples, and bring boredom. Seeking those who can constantly expand the truth into fiction and will strive earnestly to stand in the way of truth 100% of the time, making every moment of every day, a Hokey Event. TWO OR MORE IN MY NAME. ~ www.Redundantdope.net |
| Saura~
User ID: 751472
United States
9/8/2009 7:33 PM | | Re: The Two Obama's. at least | Quote |
NO WAY!
Are you kidding me. That doesn't even seem possible to get a full grown somebody in such little time.
I actually think it is possible to have body doubles or replacements.... but clones & DNA replacements?
I don't think we are there yet
Last Edited by Saura~ on 9/8/2009 at 7:41 PM
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 762616
United States
9/8/2009 7:34 PM | | Re: The Two Obama's. at least | Quote |
A clone can be made in 48 hours. From a single cell, Russians learned and did it many long years ago now.
Plus there are other techniques, because the cloning labs were closed. They work a little slower, plastic surgery etc, plus synthetics, where you add the desired DNA from one person and the other person will began to take on the characteristics being copied. Quoting: Candace
Candace you're so full of shit we can smell you over the internet.
Go back to your Jupiter Ignition fail thread, or some other idiotic horseshit thread you started. Maybe one of your half-witted bootlickers like Urantian will actually believe the crap you're spewing, and prop up your fragile little ego. |
| magicgurad4
User ID: 726178
United States
9/8/2009 7:44 PM | | Re: The Two Obama's. at least | Quote |
NO WAY!
Are you kidding me. That doesn't even seem possible to get a full grown somebody in such little time.
I actually think it is possible to have body doubles or replacements.... but clones?
I don't think we are there yet Quoting: Saura~
So because you don't think so, it can't be real? Because you have not been told a technology exists, it can't exist?
Do you really believe that all the scientists and researchers are honest and forthcoming? Even the ones who work in top secret areas?
I have done the research on the different obama's. I can tell the difference with my own eyes. Have you even looked?
I doubt it because it would require you actually started to think for yourself and stopped believing what you were told to believe.
Sad that you are not alone in your sheeple attitude. |
| upliftedlala
User ID: 373282
United States
9/8/2009 7:53 PM | | Re: The Two Obama's. at least | Quote |
At least there is only one Sarah Palin. Unless they got to her already...... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 726680
 Australia
9/9/2009 7:05 AM | | Re: The Two Obama's. at least | Quote |
Now is star fleet going to save us before or after they drop the earths magnetosphere and put us in stasis, or after they tow Jupiter which ignited back out to it's proper place and thus move your "starship jupiter" off to do other things? Quoting: Mysterysoul
I'd like an answer to this too Candace. And its obvious this thread isn't important enough to be pinned. |
| Candace
User ID: 272605
United States
9/9/2009 4:33 PM | | Re: The Two Obama's. at least | Quote |
Now is star fleet going to save us before or after they drop the earths magnetosphere and put us in stasis, or after they tow Jupiter which ignited back out to it's proper place and thus move your "starship jupiter" off to do other things?
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I'd like an answer to this too Candace. And its obvious this thread isn't important enough to be pinned. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 726680
The saving occurs during stasis. Stasis is painless. Everyone is sorted during it to their destinations. A large number of the robots will not survive, because their minds are not souls, kinda like the Zeta's talk about. They do not earn a thought adjuster (some do however, about 10%) and are also no reincarnating animals moving up to experience in a human body, so they just dissapate.
There will however be an evacuation of a number of people just prior to stasis, which are going right off to special places that are not going to stay with earth, and you are going in your current body. In some cases, you are actually a citizen incarnate from another planet, and you are going home. Others are going to the new planet. Do NOT let fear get in the way.
If there are craft in the sky and a light beam is projected down,one or more star people will ride the light beam down to assist, PlEASE do board ship. Because it is a choice you made already. Riding the light beam into the shuttle craf feels little different than riding in an elevator, except there are no walls. It is NOT a frightening process. It is quite easy. When the craft is finished picking up, you will be shuttled to a mother ship or large evacuation craft.
These are fully staffed by experienced compassionate people.
who have participated in evacuations before. All will be human appearing, at least initially. Do not worry about family members not with you at the time. If they made similar choices, you will be reunited with them in a few days. Just board the craft.
You can pick up the family pets with you, if you are given time to do so. Do not get clothing or anything else, time is not at a maximum. The mother craft have abundant clothing, food, etc. And fine doctors if the light beam does make you queasy, or you have exisiting medical problems. Do not run after insulin or meds, simply board the craft.
Also those being evacuated before, are ones along costal areas etc where they may be water coming in before the stasis. As the magentosphere begins to go down there will be huge weather systems, that will spawn large waves. Some of you may be capable of being dematerialized. If that happens, you are simply going to wake up on board the ship, quite similar to what was covered in Star Trek.
Last Edited by Candace on 9/9/2009 at 4:44 PM
Seeking Visionaries, who can and will create the many moronic missions I need to heap on Earth and her peoples, and bring boredom. Seeking those who can constantly expand the truth into fiction and will strive earnestly to stand in the way of truth 100% of the time, making every moment of every day, a Hokey Event. TWO OR MORE IN MY NAME. ~ www.Redundantdope.net |
| Candace
User ID: 272605
United States
9/9/2009 4:45 PM | | Re: The Two Obama's. at least | Quote |
At least there is only one Sarah Palin. Unless they got to her already...... Quoting: upliftedlala
Look at her pics as a young adult. This is NOT the same person either. the young adult had a SHORT neck, for example.
Last Edited by Candace on 9/9/2009 at 4:46 PM
Seeking Visionaries, who can and will create the many moronic missions I need to heap on Earth and her peoples, and bring boredom. Seeking those who can constantly expand the truth into fiction and will strive earnestly to stand in the way of truth 100% of the time, making every moment of every day, a Hokey Event. TWO OR MORE IN MY NAME. ~ www.Redundantdope.net |
| Pheenix11
User ID: 742952
United States
9/9/2009 4:50 PM | | Re: The Two Obama's. at least | Quote |
Just curious, have you ever posted a thread that was not complete and utter  ? |
| Lavados
User ID: 793973
 Austria
10/14/2009 1:54 PM | | Re: The Two Obama's. at least | Quote |
I'd like an answer to this too Candace. And its obvious this thread isn't important enough to be pinned.
The saving occurs during stasis. Stasis is painless. Everyone is sorted during it to their destinations. A large number of the robots will not survive, because their minds are not souls, kinda like the Zeta's talk about. They do not earn a thought adjuster (some do however, about 10%) and are also no reincarnating animals moving up to experience in a human body, so they just dissapate.
There will however be an evacuation of a number of people just prior to stasis, which are going right off to special places that are not going to stay with earth, and you are going in your current body. In some cases, you are actually a citizen incarnate from another planet, and you are going home. Others are going to the new planet. Do NOT let fear get in the way.
If there are craft in the sky and a light beam is projected down,one or more star people will ride the light beam down to assist, PlEASE do board ship. Because it is a choice you made already. Riding the light beam into the shuttle craf feels little different than riding in an elevator, except there are no walls. It is NOT a frightening process. It is quite easy. When the craft is finished picking up, you will be shuttled to a mother ship or large evacuation craft.
These are fully staffed by experienced compassionate people.
who have participated in evacuations before. All will be human appearing, at least initially. Do not worry about family members not with you at the time. If they made similar choices, you will be reunited with them in a few days. Just board the craft.
You can pick up the family pets with you, if you are given time to do so. Do not get clothing or anything else, time is not at a maximum. The mother craft have abundant clothing, food, etc. And fine doctors if the light beam does make you queasy, or you have exisiting medical problems. Do not run after insulin or meds, simply board the craft.
Also those being evacuated before, are ones along costal areas etc where they may be water coming in before the stasis. As the magentosphere begins to go down there will be huge weather systems, that will spawn large waves. Some of you may be capable of being dematerialized. If that happens, you are simply going to wake up on board the ship, quite similar to what was covered in Star Trek. Quoting: Candace
This sounds really interesting and amazing.
I know this things about the stasis ,the new earth since this year,because my new letterfriend wants to post this and other messages in a forum where I am joined.
Obama has a clon?
I would have thought me so ...
From Osama to Obama remembers me on <<From Zero to Hero<<
The idea is not bad and the similarity is existing.
Are there other people who were cloned in the past or present? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 793989
United States
10/14/2009 2:10 PM | | Re: The Two Obama's. at least | Quote |
thanks for the intresting info and related posts.Wouldn't doubt at all if there are clones out there.
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