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South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford missing since Thursday!

 
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This thread at GLP is about a Sorchaa Faal article saying that the Gov. has spoken with Russia about seceding. Probbly typical Faal bs, but perhaps worth perusing:
Thread: South Carolina Governor Appeals For Russian Help To Succeed From United States
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This is all tied to the Dallas 2003 thread. Read it. Big things are happening with the state of South Carolina.

Thread: ANYONE WITH INFO ON VERY BIZARRE HAPPENINGS IN EARLY NOVEMBER 2003 IN DALLAS/FORT WORTH TX PLEASE HELP!!
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This is all tied to the Dallas 2003 thread. Read it. Big things are happening with the state of South Carolina.
Thread: ANYONE WITH INFO ON VERY BIZARRE HAPPENINGS IN EARLY NOVEMBER 2003 IN DALLAS/FORT WORTH TX PLEASE HELP!!
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Is SC mentioned specifically in the Dallas 2003 thread?
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Mods, you can leave Sanford threads unpinned if you like, but as you can see, you'll have Sanford threads floating all over the board.

We need a pin on one of the threads until some of this shakes out.

Important stuff going on, even thought it does not appear that way at the moment!
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This is all tied to the Dallas 2003 thread. Read it. Big things are happening with the state of South Carolina.
Thread: ANYONE WITH INFO ON VERY BIZARRE HAPPENINGS IN EARLY NOVEMBER 2003 IN DALLAS/FORT WORTH TX PLEASE HELP!!

Is SC mentioned specifically in the Dallas 2003 thread?
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it is towards the end. You should read it. Very very interesting to say the least.
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Mods, you can leave Sanford threads unpinned if you like, but as you can see, you'll have Sanford threads floating all over the board.

We need a pin on one of the threads until some of this shakes out.

Important stuff going on, even thought it does not appear that way at the moment!
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bump
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This is all tied to the Dallas 2003 thread. Read it. Big things are happening with the state of South Carolina.
Thread: ANYONE WITH INFO ON VERY BIZARRE HAPPENINGS IN EARLY NOVEMBER 2003 IN DALLAS/FORT WORTH TX PLEASE HELP!!

Is SC mentioned specifically in the Dallas 2003 thread?

it is towards the end. You should read it. Very very interesting to say the least.
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I have read it, and didn't see it. I'm not being willfully blind, either. I'd truly enjoy seeing the connection, if it exists.
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This is all tied to the Dallas 2003 thread. Read it. Big things are happening with the state of South Carolina.
Thread: ANYONE WITH INFO ON VERY BIZARRE HAPPENINGS IN EARLY NOVEMBER 2003 IN DALLAS/FORT WORTH TX PLEASE HELP!!

Is SC mentioned specifically in the Dallas 2003 thread?

it is towards the end. You should read it. Very very interesting to say the least.

I have read it, and didn't see it. I'm not being willfully blind, either. I'd truly enjoy seeing the connection, if it exists.
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The guy in the airport is supposedly from SC and is an acquaintance of the governor - supposedly.
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The guy in the airport is supposedly from SC and is an acquaintance of the governor - supposedly.
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Ok, thanks.
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This is all tied to the Dallas 2003 thread. Read it. Big things are happening with the state of South Carolina.
Thread: ANYONE WITH INFO ON VERY BIZARRE HAPPENINGS IN EARLY NOVEMBER 2003 IN DALLAS/FORT WORTH TX PLEASE HELP!!

Is SC mentioned specifically in the Dallas 2003 thread?

it is towards the end. You should read it. Very very interesting to say the least.

I have read it, and didn't see it. I'm not being willfully blind, either. I'd truly enjoy seeing the connection, if it exists.



The guy in the airport is supposedly from SC and is an acquaintance of the governor - supposedly.
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not supposed... he is... bump
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At 5PM EST they are going to announce he died in an unfortunate accident while returning home.
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not supposed... he is... bump
 Quoting: once in darkness 709754

Assertions. What's his name? If it's known he's an acquaintence of the governor, surely his name is known? If his name is unknown, how can you say he's in any way associated with the governor? Are there photos of their acquaintence? News articles?

I see a strange co-mingling occurring between the FACTS of the governor's having gone missing several days with the possible FICTION (at best, undocumented facts) of the Dallas 2003 thread that seems to me as improbable as Sorcha Faal's article. Seems like disinfo to me, muddying the waters.
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At 5PM EST they are going to announce he died in an unfortunate accident while returning home.
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Prediction or inside knowledge?
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At 5PM EST they are going to announce he died in an unfortunate accident while returning home.
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Haven't read this whole thread, but if he wasn't really hiking the Trail, my guess would be it might involve the usual mundane sort of personal hanky panky that politicians get involved in.
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I see a strange co-mingling occurring between the FACTS of the governor's having gone missing several days with the possible FICTION (at best, undocumented facts) of the Dallas 2003 thread that seems to me as improbable as Sorcha Faal's article. Seems like disinfo to me, muddying the waters.
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+1

That, or somebody just fooling around.
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June 23, 2009

South Carolina Governor Appeals For Russian Help To Succeed From United States

By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers

Russian Foreign Ministry sources are reporting to President Medvedev today that the Governor of South Carolina, Mark Sanford [photo top left], arrived at Russia’s Ottawa Embassy seeking ‘immediate assistance and protection’ for his plan to succeed from the United States over what he states is the ‘planned annihilation of his country’ by a ‘criminal cabal’ headed by the current US President Barack Obama.

According to this bizarre report, Governor Sanford, who has been reported as “missing” for the past week after evading his security detail, pleaded with Ambassador Mamedov to have Russia become the first country to recognize the ‘New Nation’ of South Carolina upon its succession from the United States and promised in return that Russian Military Forces would have ‘total and immediate’ access to his States ports and airfields.

Russian legal authorities state in these reports that Governor Sanford’s statements under US law could be construed as treasonous, though they doubt that Obama would seek prosecution opting, instead, to ‘neutralize’ this threat as most US Presidents have done in the past, most notably Louisiana Governor Huey Long who was assassinated in 1935 after his threats to succeed from the United States during the Great Depression.

Reports from the United States about Governor Sanford state that he is firmly opposed to Obama and the socialization of his country, with some of these reports even speculating that Obama wants him dead, and as we can read:

“In a chilling story that seems more at home on a television police drama than in a conservative political blog, South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford has gone missing. The South Carolina Governor emerged as an early and outspoken opponent of President Barrack Hussein Obama’s stimulus funding and even refused to take federal money. The Republican Governor was last seen on Thursday when he was sighted in a South Carolina Law Enforcement Vehicle. His wife has no idea where he is.

There is no doubt that Sanford’s opposition to Obama’s stimulus plan made him a very powerful enemy with a powerful motivation to silence him.”

These reports further state that Governor Sanford was ‘extremely upset’ over the near assassination of former US President Jimmy Carter last week and stated to Ambassador Mamedov, “see…they can even kill a president and the Zionist media controlling everything wont’ even report it.”

Most interesting to note about South Carolina is that it became the first State to succeed from the United States when it left the Union on December 20, 1860 after the election of President Abraham Lincoln and which started the Civil War that left over 1 million Americans dead and wounded in its worst ever conflict.

More curiously about South Carolina is its State flag [2nd photo left], which on January 28, 1861, became the National flag of the newly seceded Republic of South Carolina and is steeped in occult symbolism holding the ancient symbol of the Crescent Moon honoring the aging goddess and which to the Islamic faith means victory over death.

Most importantly, however, of these events now occurring in the United States is that they have been predicted by some of Russia’s most important diplomats, and as we can read as reported by the RIA Novosti News Service:

“A leading Russian political analyst has said the economic turmoil in the United States has confirmed his long-held view that the country is heading for collapse, and will divide into separate parts.

Professor Igor Panarin said in an interview with the respected daily Izvestia published on Monday: "The dollar is not secured by anything. The country's foreign debt has grown like an avalanche, even though in the early 1980s there was no debt. By 1998, when I first made my prediction, it had exceeded $2 trillion. Now it is more than 11 trillion. This is a pyramid that can only collapse."

The paper said Panarin's dire predictions for the U.S. economy, initially made at an international conference in Australia 10 years ago at a time when the economy appeared strong, have been given more credence by this year's events.

When asked when the U.S. economy would collapse, Panarin said: "It is already collapsing. Due to the financial crisis, three of the largest and oldest five banks on Wall Street have already ceased to exist, and two are barely surviving. Their losses are the biggest in history. Now what we will see is a change in the regulatory system on a global financial scale: America will no longer be the world's financial regulator."

When asked who would replace the U.S. in regulating world markets, he said: "Two countries could assume this role: China, with its vast reserves, and Russia, which could play the role of a regulator in Eurasia."

Asked why he expected the U.S. to break up into separate parts, he said: "A whole range of reasons. Firstly, the financial problems in the U.S. will get worse. Millions of citizens there have lost their savings. Prices and unemployment are on the rise. General Motors and Ford are on the verge of collapse, and this means that whole cities will be left without work. Governors are already insistently demanding money from the federal center. Dissatisfaction is growing, and at the moment it is only being held back by the elections and the hope that Obama can work miracles. But by spring, it will be clear that there are no miracles."

He also cited the "vulnerable political setup", "lack of unified national laws", and "divisions among the elite, which have become clear in these crisis conditions."

He predicted that the U.S. will break up into six parts - the Pacific coast, with its growing Chinese population; the South, with its Hispanics; Texas, where independence movements are on the rise; the Atlantic coast, with its distinct and separate mentality; five of the poorer central states with their large Native American populations; and the northern states, where the influence from Canada is strong.

He even suggested that "we could claim Alaska - it was only granted on lease, after all."

On the fate of the U.S. dollar, he said: "In 2006 a secret agreement was reached between Canada, Mexico and the U.S. on a common Amero currency as a new monetary unit. This could signal preparations to replace the dollar. The one-hundred dollar bills that have flooded the world could be simply frozen. Under the pretext, let's say, that terrorists are forging them and they need to be checked."

When asked how Russia should react to his vision of the future, Panarin said: "Develop the ruble as a regional currency. Create a fully functioning oil exchange, trading in rubles... We must break the strings tying us to the financial Titanic, which in my view will soon sink."

Panarin, 60, is a professor at the Diplomatic Academy of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and has authored several books on information warfare.”

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"This isn't the first time that Sanford has gone AWOL. State Sen. Jake Knotts, a Republican but frequent critic of the governor, told TPMmuckraker that there have been "frequent intervals where Sanford would leave for short periods of time" in which no one, including his security detail, knew where he was.

Knotts, a former state law enforcement officer, described Sanford -- who has been considered a top contender for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination -- simply as someone congenitally ill-suited to the kind of constant monitoring the governor's job requires. "He's obviously not a person that would be happy with security," said Knotts. "He just is a hard person to get used to security."

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"This isn't the first time that Sanford has gone AWOL. State Sen. Jake Knotts, a Republican but frequent critic of the governor, told TPMmuckraker that there have been "frequent intervals where Sanford would leave for short periods of time" in which no one, including his security detail, knew where he was.
[link to tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com]
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"Short periods of time..." Half an hour, two hours? That's waaay different than being "AWOL" for days.

I'll bet most governors like to get away for a couple hours by themselves, nothing strange in that. But for days? That's obviously quite different.
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June 23, 2009

South Carolina Governor Appeals For Russian Help To Succeed From United States

By: Sorcha Faal,
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rofl
"From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17
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"This isn't the first time that Sanford has gone AWOL. State Sen. Jake Knotts, a Republican but frequent critic of the governor, told TPMmuckraker that there have been "frequent intervals where Sanford would leave for short periods of time" in which no one, including his security detail, knew where he was.
[link to tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com]

"Short periods of time..." Half an hour, two hours? That's waaay different than being "AWOL" for days.

I'll bet most governors like to get away for a couple hours by themselves, nothing strange in that. But for days? That's obviously quite different.
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Sure, it's different. And like I said on the other thread, the hiking story sounds fishy. But I think it's significant that you have someone in the position to know indicating he had a predisposition for something like this.
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Laugh if you like, but that wording may be more correct that you realize.

There is too much going on in this state (South Carolina) to take the time to put in writing, plus everybody wants links and it takes a long time to look up all the links.

Very briefly, the state has been structured (at least in part) for legal separation from the federal US. All this hs been posted on glp from time to time, but most people just don't get the connections.




June 23, 2009

South Carolina Governor Appeals For Russian Help To Succeed From United States

By: Sorcha Faal,

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Laugh if you like, but that wording may be more correct that you realize.

There is too much going on in this state (South Carolina) to take the time to put in writing, plus everybody wants links and it takes a long time to look up all the links.

Very briefly, the state has been structured (at least in part) for legal separation from the federal US. All this hs been posted on glp from time to time, but most people just don't get the connections.

June 23, 2009

South Carolina Governor Appeals For Russian Help To Succeed From United States

By: Sorcha Faal,

rofl

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OK, I'll play along. *IF* this were true, it would have to mean Sanford is totally batshit crazy.

Any history of that?
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I am the one that started the thread about happenings in Dallas. Now someone is saying this guy is from South Carolina and that he is somehow tied to what is happening there. It is very odd that this governor is the only one to not take the money willingly and now one of his attorneys dies mysteriously. This is all just too strange to be fiction. I know what I saw in Dallas was not fiction whatsoever. How it is all tied together I have no idea but want to find out.
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I am the one that started the thread about happenings in Dallas. Now someone is saying this guy is from South Carolina and that he is somehow tied to what is happening there. It is very odd that this governor is the only one to not take the money willingly and now one of his attorneys dies mysteriously. This is all just too strange to be fiction. I know what I saw in Dallas was not fiction whatsoever. How it is all tied together I have no idea but want to find out.
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Your Dallas 2003 thread is quite interesting, AC.
Don't necessarily buy the linkage between SC and Dallas, though. It could as easily as not be someone trying to mess up your investigation. I could as easily say I saw the Mystery Man at a local Buddhist retreat. No proof. (BTW, I didn't/haven't!)
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I am the one that started the thread about happenings in Dallas. Now someone is saying this guy is from South Carolina and that he is somehow tied to what is happening there. It is very odd that this governor is the only one to not take the money willingly and now one of his attorneys dies mysteriously. This is all just too strange to be fiction. I know what I saw in Dallas was not fiction whatsoever. How it is all tied together I have no idea but want to find out.

Your Dallas 2003 thread is quite interesting, AC.
Don't necessarily buy the linkage between SC and Dallas, though. It could as easily as not be someone trying to mess up your investigation. I could as easily say I saw the Mystery Man at a local Buddhist retreat. No proof. (BTW, I didn't/haven't!)
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It may be. Don't know. Why would someone go to the expense of time and effort to say all that?
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It is very odd that this governor is the only one to not take the money willingly and now one of his attorneys dies mysteriously. This is all just too strange to be fiction.
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Wait a minute. How is it that Evans was Sanford's attorney? Did I miss something? Is there really any connection other than they were both in South Carolina? There very well may not be any connection at all between any of these things. And there are many very strange claims that ARE fiction. The ONLY source anyone has provided trying to link the S.C. events to your experience was from Sacha Faal who is an internet joke.

You may have witnessed/experienced some sort of High Weirdness. But as I told you on the other thread, you need to exercise reason and discerment or you could easily wind up going down some delusional rabbit holes.
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It may be. Don't know. Why would someone go to the expense of time and effort to say all that?
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Alot of people would, for various reasons. Either they like to play, they're a writer with a vivid imagination who can't stop typing, they're delusional, they like to mislead people for fun, or they're paid for disinfo.

There's tons of bs people write/post here on GLP. There's also tons of truth. Sifting things out is the task, and we all sift according to our desires/prejudices/understandings/preconceived notions of how things are or should be.

The simple explanation is usually the best. I've actually seen a golden orb, and the simple explanation is that it's a ghost/spirit energy. That's the explanation I can live with, and understand.

Some things remain mysteries, despite our best intentions and desire for resolution.
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Don't necessarily buy the linkage between SC and Dallas, though. It could as easily as not be someone trying to mess up your investigation. I could as easily say I saw the Mystery Man at a local Buddhist retreat. No proof. (BTW, I didn't/haven't!)

It may be. Don't know. Why would someone go to the expense of time and effort to say all that?
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Zero expense. Believe me, it's not much effort for someone trolling around on the internet trying to get a rise out of people. There is a lot of that going on here as you have repeatedly been told. It could be someone delusional who is trying to fit your experience into his/her paradigm, it could be someone role playing who thinks you are role playing.
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Don't necessarily buy the linkage between SC and Dallas, though. It could as easily as not be someone trying to mess up your investigation. I could as easily say I saw the Mystery Man at a local Buddhist retreat. No proof. (BTW, I didn't/haven't!)

It may be. Don't know. Why would someone go to the expense of time and effort to say all that?


Zero expense. Believe me, it's not much effort for someone trolling around on the internet trying to get a rise out of people. There is a lot of that going on here as you have repeatedly been told. It could be someone delusional who is trying to fit your experience into his/her paradigm, it could be someone role playing who thinks you are role playing.
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That is stupid. How could someone have that much time on their hands? Not saying your answer is stupid, just that someone would do that.
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..I'LL take a stab at this.... & I sez he's shacked up in a hWY. 95 motel 6 ... with a jug of moonshine ,a couple of cases of beer & Sumpter so.carolina HO....wadda u think....? 5a

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