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Obama's real target --->> Israel's Dimona reactor

 
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"I understand those who protest that some countries have weapons that others do not. No single nation should pick and choose which nations hold nuclear weapons. That is why I strongly reaffirmed America's commitment to seek a world in which no nations hold nuclear weapons. And any nation - including Iran - should have the right to access peaceful nuclear power if it complies with its responsibilities under the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. That commitment is at the core of the Treaty, and it must be kept for all who fully abide by it. And I am hopeful that all countries in the region can share in this goal."
Pres. Barack Hussein Obama, June 4, 2009
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06/22/2009 11:50 PM
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As a policy statement, this means that America (or any other country) cannot deny the right of any country to WMD. It undercuts the reasons for America's attack in Iraq, assents to nuclear proliferation and precludes any action against Iran. It also turns the focus on Israel.


Amidst all of the distortions and inaccuracies of Pres Obama's speech in Cairo, this paragraph sends chills through Israel's intelligence community. His reference was not just to Iranian nuclear weapons, but "any nation" that has, or acquires them. That includes Israel.


Obama's emphasis on a commitment to the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, something which Israel has refused to agree, since that means opening all of its facilities to inspection - including its top secret plant in Dimona - is a direct threat to Israel's security. Aware of Israel's long-standing policy in this matter, Obama shifts the attack.


By linking support for Israel against Iran with a halt to all settlement building, and establishing a second Arab Palestinian state, Obama has set the stage for his big prize: Dimona.


Aware that no Israeli government can agree to a complete freeze in building, Obama can blame Israel for American inaction against Iran, and lack of support for its war in Afghanistan. It's a perfect excuse: 'Israel didn't do enough; it's Israel's fault.'


"Israeli intransigence" will be given as the reason for America's failure. 'If only Israel had evacuated more settlements, stopped building, dismantled more checkpoints, given more aid to Hamas, stopped demolishing illegal Arab buildings, etc., we could have done something,' Obama will say.


But Obama's real agenda is not settlements; it's Israel's nuclear capacity. Egypt especially has been urging the US to force Israel to open its facility at Dimona. Prior to the "Six Day" War in 1967, Russian spy-planes flew over Dimona and, according to Isabella Ginor and Gideon Remez (Foxbats Over Dimona) wanted to bomb it. No doubt, Arab terrorist groups like Al Qaida, Hamas and Hezbullah have Dimona in their sights as well.


The key to neutralizing Israel's nuclear capacity is the NPT. As his speech clearly indicates, Israel's agreement to the NPT is the lever to gain Iranian compliance. 'How can Israel be allowed to have nuclear weapons,' Obama suggests, 'and not Iran, or any other country?'


Unlike any other President, Obama has put Israel in a difficult, if not impossible position. If it refuses to agree to sign the NPT, Israel will be isolated and blamed for lack of progress on Iran. If it agrees, Israel will lose a vital strategic deterrent.


Well aware of terrorist threats to America, and concerned about investments and interests throughout the world, Obama sees pushing Israel against the wall as a convenient way of deflecting Muslim terrorism. As long as Islamists think that Obama is on their side, they'll refrain from attacking, keep the oil flowing and the prices low.


Iran may even be willing to make cosmetic (and temporary) adjustments so that Obama can claim that the crisis has been defused. And Israel will pay the price: sanctions, boycotts, diplomatic and economic isolation similar to the international pressures that broke South Africa's apartheid regime.


Obama's speech is an ominous warning of what he is prepared to do in order to strip Israel of its military advantage. Along with the loss of control over Judea and Samaria, territories that are vital for Israel's security and access to water reserves, faced with Arab terrorist militias backed by Arab armies, Israel will be completely vulnerable.


The face of this Jihad is not one of ranting, bearded clerics, but smooth-talking, clean-shaven smiling apostles of peace and the Philosopher-King of Hope.



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You Zionists have an Obamanation going on over here and ya'll put him in over here so ya'll better get him out over here else'n he'll achieve the goal you're talkin' 'bout.
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06/22/2009 11:51 PM
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You Zionists have an Obamanation going on over here and ya'll put him in over here so ya'll better get him out over here else'n he'll achieve the goal you're talkin' 'bout.
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Feel free to head us as Israelis.
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06/22/2009 11:56 PM
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JFK had an interest in DIMONA also. Care to tell me the rest of the story?
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06/23/2009 12:05 AM
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JFK had an interest in DIMONA also. Care to tell me the rest of the story?
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I wish I could.
What that make any difference to you anyway?
Isreal has never ever threated anybody by having what it has or hasnt,not same case with Iran, which has made very clear its threats of wipe us all.
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06/23/2009 12:07 AM
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Re: Obama's real target --->> Israel's Dimona reactor
Barack Hussein Obama once again displays his amazing ignorance of world history.<<<<

No other country or people anytime in history anywhere on this planet have been so threatened, persecuted and attacked as Israel and the Jewish people.

Uniquely threatened... the people of Israel have a unique right to defend themselves with nuclear weapons.

If Israel has no right to nuclear weapons... then who does?

Maybe the day after America, Russia, China, Britain, France and other countries dispose of their nuclear weapons
and the Muslim world makes real peace with Israel it might be acceptable to just consider Israel giving up its nuclear deterrrent.

But not before then.

The world is a dangerous place... more and more so, every day... especially in Israel's neighborhood.

Sorry Barry Soetero a.k.a. Barack Hussein Obama (America's First Muslim President)... you are wrong.

If the Muslims put down their weapons, there will be peace.

If Israel gives up its weapons... there will be no more Israel.


If there had been a nuclear armed Israel back in Hitler's time there would have been no Holocaust.

And whatever the liberal pacifists of the day thought, a nuclear armed Czechoslovakia would not have fallen victim to Nazi Germany.

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06/23/2009 12:12 AM
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One of the biggest mistakes people make over and over is to label an entire people as bad or unworthy when it is usually only a small percentage...very small percentage..that actually make policy
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06/23/2009 12:14 AM
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One of the biggest mistakes people make over and over is to label an entire people as bad or unworthy when it is usually only a small percentage...very small percentage..that actually make policy
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right..
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06/23/2009 12:26 AM
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Israelis now feel Obama is biased against them



Only 6 percent of Jewish Israelis consider the views of American President Barack Obama's administration pro-Israel, according to a Smith Research poll sponsored by the Jerusalem Post, which reported the results. 50% of those sampled consider the policies of Obama's administration more pro-Palestinian than pro-Israeli, and 36% said the policies were neutral. 8% did not express an opinion.

The poll, with a margin of error of 4.5%, was conducted among a representative sample of 500 Israeli Jewish adults this week, following Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu's speech in which he expressed his support for a demilitarized Palestinian state and after Obama's Cairo speech. The results contrasted sharply to the previous poll published May 17, on the eve of the meeting between Netanyahu and Obama at the White House, in which 31% considered the Obama administration pro-Israel, 14% considered it pro-Palestinian and 40% said it was neutral.

A massive majority of Israeli support continued growth within large settlement blocs, a position that the Obama Administration has explicitly opposed. 69% of Israel want building to continue there, as opposed to 23%, who said it should be stopped.


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