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Gov Sanfords was in South America!

 
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Good coke is so expensive in the US. I hear it's MUCH cheaper closer to the source and you can't get much closer than SA can you?

Either that or he's making a deal with someone for long term distribution
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Why is he being so secretive? Something is going on people...I'm telling you, large quantities of money is missing ....gold is being bought up .....can't find guns and ammo....people are buying food and water in large quantities.
They're GPSing our front doors....we are being openly threatened with attacks from North Korea.The middle east is a tinder box.

The story Governor Sanford is telling is a lie. I believe he was in Argentina, but what was he doing there? Whatever is going on I hope we get wind of it before tshtf.


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Secession talks. A friendly place to meet with Medvedev without prying eyes.


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Argentine Leader Seeks To Deepen Ties With Russia
Fernandez`s visit to Moscow comes weeks after Russian President Dmitry Medvedev toured Latin American countries.


Argentine President Cristina Fernandez called for a closer partnership with Russia at Kremlin talks on Wednesday, the latest Latin American leader seeking to deepen ties with Moscow.

Fernandez's visit to Moscow comes weeks after Russian President Dmitry Medvedev toured Latin American countries including Brazil, Peru and Venezuela.

"We must deepen our political dialogue, our cooperation on the international arena because above all Russia and Argentina are convinced ... of the need to build a world based on multipolar principals," Fernandez told Medvedev.

After talks, Medvedev and Fernandez signed a joint declaration which stated "intentions to build the relations of a strategic partnership", according to a copy distributed by the Kremlin.
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the AP showing some skepticism:

Sanford told The State he was alone on the trip to Argentina. He declined to give any additional details about what he did other than to say he drove along the coastline.

Trying to make such a drive could frustrate a weekend visitor to Argentina. In Buenos Aires, the Avenida Costanera is the only coastal road, and it's less than two miles long. Reaching coastal resorts to the south requires a drive of nearly four hours on an inland highway with views of endless cattle ranches. To the north is a river delta of islands reached only by boat.

TPM Reader GK concurs:

Know that the "coastline" in BA is completely featureless and incredibly boring -- it's on a slow-moving, broad river. When residents of BA "go to the beach" they drive many hours away to Mar del Plata, which is on the Atlantic coast (or they hop on a boat to Montevideo, Uruguay.) But right now it's in the low 50's during the day and the mid 30's at night on the coast.

[link to www.talkingpointsmemo.com]


And he lives in SC..... lots of coastline to be driven on right here!!! Helllooooooooo!





This story has become even more incredible now that he's back.

Someone on the other topic said MSNBC will be airing his news conference... is it 2pm ET ??


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FOX is also holding LIVE coverage of his news conference at 2:00.
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The Ironclad Oath was a key factor in the removing of ex-Confederates from the political arena during the Reconstruction of the United States in the 1860s. It required every white man to swear he had never borne arms against the Union or supported the Confederacy — that is, he had "never voluntarily borne arms against the United States," had "voluntarily" given "no aid, countenance, counsel or encouragement" to persons in rebellion and had exercised or attempted to exercise the functions of no office under the Confederacy. Its unpopularity among ex-Confederates led them to nickname the oath "The Damnesty Oath."

Congress originally devised the oath in July 1862 for all federal employees, lawyers and federal elected officials. It was applied to Southern voters in the Wade-Davis Bill of 1864, which President Abraham Lincoln pocket vetoed. President Andrew Johnson also opposed it. Both Johnson and Lincoln wanted Southerners instead to swear to an oath that in the future they would support the Union. Lincoln's amnesty oath was integral to his ten percent plan, for reconstruction.
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Now he was dove hunting they said on FOX, unless I heard wrong.

Edited because they may have been talking about another trip.

Last Edited by Storm* on 06/24/2009 12:02 PM
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So the governor just got done with a lengthy legislative session where he was forced by the government to take stimulus money that he disagreed with. It seems maybe he is questioning the action of the government and their response in this crisis. Could he have possibly some other reasons to not trust the fed's and went to Argentina to meet a certain ground zero fema reporter that has information pertaining to the coverup on 911. DId he possibly come back with the video tapes of said reporter and is he getting ready to blow the lid off this place? Could be........
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He couldn't tell his staff because they don't work for him, they work for Sanford's handlers. They keep an eye on him for them.

Sanford could have done ANY of the things listed so far without disappearing (have a fling, go hiking, take a vacation in South America, etc.). Instead, whatever he had to do he wanted to do w/out the knowledge of those in power. TPTB freaked out and alerted the MSM. Sanford pulled the wool over their eyes. He had to have a reason and I'd love to know what it was. Remember his wife initially said he went away to 'write'.

I think this situation warrants watching...as does the future because *if* he is a rogue Bilderberger then there will be threats against those he loves, made up scandals to discredit him, and a push to get him out of office.
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I keep looking at the news... waiting for Obama to come on... to tell us that we have had a national security threat somehow linked to the GOV and SC. I think this may get big!
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Now he was dove hunting they said on FOX, unless I heard wrong.

Edited because they may have been talking about another trip.

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Did Cheney go hunting with him ? tomato



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He told his wife he had to get away from the kids to go write something? WTF? You couldn't go write something at a Starbucks in town?
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Now he was dove hunting they said on FOX, unless I heard wrong.

Edited because they may have been talking about another trip.





Did Cheney go hunting with him ? tomato



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No, but Teddy drove him to the airport.
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I keep looking at the news... waiting for Obama to come on... to tell us that we have had a national security threat somehow linked to the GOV and SC. I think this may get big!
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Let me clarify: I don't think he would be guilty at all!!! I just think they (TPTB) may want him silenced. They may not want the 2:00 pm news conference to go forward.
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I keep looking at the news... waiting for Obama to come on... to tell us that we have had a national security threat somehow linked to the GOV and SC. I think this may get big!

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One thing is for sure... this was no ordinary trip.
It was so important he couldn't tell any one where
he was. He risked his future political career on it.



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I keep looking at the news... waiting for Obama to come on... to tell us that we have had a national security threat somehow linked to the GOV and SC. I think this may get big!





One thing is for sure... this was no ordinary trip.
It was so important he couldn't tell any one where
he was. He risked his future political career on it.



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And also possibly risked his marriage!
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Who cares? No one has the right to monitor him at all times.

well, if you are governor of the state, yes, they do.

secondly, it isn't so much a tired Gov taking tom off after a tough legislative session, it is the lies, deliberate deceit, and holes in his story that make a person wonder. If he wanted time off, just say so, designate the Lt. Gov in charge, and go. But to sneak off to Argentina after lying and double lying and 'sneak' is the right word here. That is not cool, nor is it safe: he left the state, and the country, without designating a chain of command


No, no one has the right.

Lt. Governor is in command when he is gone. He is not. He also has a duty cell phone to talk policy.
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It seems that unless the Gov states that he is not in charge, he is the one in charge. At no time did the Lt. Gov assume the role of executive.

The state's law makers are already looking into this.
It doesn't matter who I m it's who U R so ChoOse
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I keep looking at the news... waiting for Obama to come on... to tell us that we have had a national security threat somehow linked to the GOV and SC. I think this may get big!





One thing is for sure... this was no ordinary trip.
It was so important he couldn't tell any one where
he was. He risked his future political career on it.



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And also possibly risked his marriage!

 Quoting: nc gal



Maybe the wife knew and wasn't talking...
or maybe she didn't know, but will understand
the importance of keeping it a secret.


Kinda reminds me of that Twilight Zone episode
where two rocket scientists secretly plot to
commandeer a space ship to save their families
from the planet's pending doom. They couldn't tell
their families until the last minute.



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Why is he being so secretive? Something is going on people...I'm telling you, large quantities of money is missing ....gold is being bought up .....can't find guns and ammo....people are buying food and water in large quantities.
They're GPSing our front doors....we are being openly threatened with attacks from North Korea.The middle east is a tinder box.

The story Governor Sanford is telling is a lie. I believe he was in Argentina, but what was he doing there? Whatever is going on I hope we get wind of it before tshtf.
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Good questions, lillie8. Hopefully, he's doing some good for the American people. The current or past administrations, as well as our media just isn't there for US anymore. They're there for themselves.
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So the governor just got done with a lengthy legislative session where he was forced by the government to take stimulus money that he disagreed with. It seems maybe he is questioning the action of the government and their response in this crisis. Could he have possibly some other reasons to not trust the fed's and went to Argentina to meet a certain ground zero fema reporter that has information pertaining to the coverup on 911. DId he possibly come back with the video tapes of said reporter and is he getting ready to blow the lid off this place? Could be........
 Quoting: Connect the dots 710648



WOW!! I just read about that guy and the tapes yesterday. This is all very, very bizarre. Maybe the good ole guv is starting to question the federal government and is really starting to think out what the next step for his state should be.
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Now he was dove hunting they said on FOX, unless I heard wrong.

Edited because they may have been talking about another trip.





Did Cheney go hunting with him ? tomato



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No, but Teddy drove him to the airport.
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Let's hope they didn't hit any bridges along the way...
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[link to republicbroadcasting.org]
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He had a realestate transaction???
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Buying land above 7000 feet just like the Bush family!
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Anyone consider the possibility that he is just losing his mind?
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He had a realestate transaction???

Buying land above 7000 feet just like the Bush family!
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On top of an acquifer. perhaps.
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So much for "Security!"... The US didn't even know he was out of the country??? Hahahahahahahha! We suck!


What a load of BS. Would US customs not know he boarded a flight? Would his RFID chipped passport not have been scanned and logged his ticketed destination.
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Anyone consider the possibility that he is just losing his mind?
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Anyone consider the possibility that he is just losing his mind?
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Politicians are too self-absorbed and narcissistic to lose their minds.
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How convenient...


Sanford back from South America; press conference at 2 p.m.

...Jun 24, 2009 ... A spokesman for Argentina's immigration agency wouldn't comment Wednesday on whether Sanford entered the country, citing privacy laws.

www.thestate.com/local/story/838823.html
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I think he doesn't trust the Lt. Gov.

I mean...you'd think that IF Bauer had his back then he would have assured all that he had control of the state while the Gov was on his mantrip...but he didn't. He threw him under the bus.

I'd expect my Lt. Gov to know ME and to cover for me if need be.

"NO worries people...I'm running the State while the Gov. is on vacation. No, I will not tell you were she went because it is none of your business!"
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Where did the cell phone ping story in Atlanta orginate? What day was it supposedly pinged? How could he be returning from an international flight this morning, and also call from Atlanta yesterday by cell phone? Some one is lying.
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this is a detailed timeline of all the events surround this issue.
[link to www.thestate.com]

apparently his cell phone was pinged Thu June 18!

- A mobile telephone tower in Atlanta near Hartsfield airport picks up a signal from Sanford’s phone about 5:40 p.m. It is the last signal before his phones are turned off for days.

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Sanford in Argentina Incognito

"ABC's Joe Goldman reports that a US embassy official in Buenos Aires tells him that the embassy had “absolutely no idea” that Sanford was in Argentina."

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