WTFFFF!!!!??? Arkansas State Health Dept says mandatory vaccinations are constitutional | |
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Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 06/26/2009 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is fuckin crazy. the health dept says in essence fuck the constitution, fuck informed choice. **constitutional my ass. if the cdc hadda nationwide mandatory flu vaccine requirement - state waivers would not be applicable. it would be a federal issue. mandating vaccines have always been a state function. the feds recommend what vaccines the state should mandate. the state complies. board of health mandates & state legislative branch. in event of emergency - no exemption waivers. Last Edited by Phennommennonn on 06/26/2009 08:26 AM political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 06/26/2009 08:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now this from a state where you can get divorced and still be brother and sister. Quoting: bubba 704316tho i laughed at your post bubba, im totally irate re the conversation in this call. theres no legal way to protect yourself according to this health dept guy. political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
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XLR8 User ID: 694615 United States 06/26/2009 08:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The Supreme court made it very clear and there's no doubt about that. Mandatory vaccines are constitutional." "They're constitutional, there's no question about it." Jacobson -vs- Massachusetts (Supreme Court case) "If there's not an exemption for the vaccine, it would be mandatory." "If the CDC had a nationwide mandated vaccine, you'd have to take it up with the Federal Govt." Last Edited by XLR8 on 06/26/2009 08:32 AM Czar: 1) An unelected person given substantial authority over a particular policy; 2) sometimes used to refer to monarchs of imperial Russia. ---------- “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have.” - Thomas Jefferson |
Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 06/26/2009 08:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ya,it is serious,I'm worried the most about my son,and your kids too. Quoting: bubba 704316state by state emergency pandemic plans. a must read. [link to www.pandemicflu.gov] political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 06/26/2009 08:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A Few Quotes From The Conversation: Quoting: XLR8"The Supreme court made it very clear and there's no doubt about that. Mandatory vaccines are constitutional." "They're constitutional, there's no question about it." Jacobson -vs- Massachusetts (Supreme Court case) "If there's not an exemption for the vaccine, it would be mandatory." "If the CDC had a nationwide mand vaccine, you'd have to take it up with the Federal Govt." one case set the fuckin precedent. political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 06/26/2009 08:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | video here - OBAMA: 3 MANDATORY/REQUIRED FLU SHOTS IN THE FALL FOR EVERYBODY? Thread: OBAMA: 3 MANDATORY/REQUIRED FLU SHOTS IN THE FALL FOR EVERYBODY? political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
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bubba User ID: 704316 United States 06/26/2009 08:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | video here - Quoting: PhennommennonnOBAMA: 3 MANDATORY/REQUIRED FLU SHOTS IN THE FALL FOR EVERYBODY? Thread: OBAMA: 3 MANDATORY/REQUIRED FLU SHOTS IN THE FALL FOR EVERYBODY? NO WE WON'T...............Here's the "free health care" everybody has always wanted. |
Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 06/26/2009 08:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
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CuriouslyIncognito User ID: 706619 United States 06/26/2009 09:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would add something, but I think you covered it. FUCK, FUCK, FUCk, those fuckers. Tx is thinking of joining the band wagon- except that Perry already wanted (sp) guardisil as law and he might get his way with these new bills. Grrrrrrrrrr....... I am already having this battle with my ex's new fk....get off MY damn kids ! XOXO~!, CI coffee please ? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "....So I told my Mom I was a prostitute because I didn't want her to know I was HERE doing This Shit !!! " by NANCY REED ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I am a kind of paranoiac in reverse. I suspect people of plotting to make me happy.- JD Salinger |
CuriouslyIncognito User ID: 706619 United States 06/26/2009 09:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would add something, but I think you covered it. FUCK, FUCK, FUCk, those fuckers. Tx is thinking of joining the band wagon- except that Perry already wanted (sp) guardisil as law and he might get his way with these new bills. Grrrrrrrrrr....... I am already having this battle with my ex's new fk....get off MY damn kids ! XOXO~!, CI coffee please ? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "....So I told my Mom I was a prostitute because I didn't want her to know I was HERE doing This Shit !!! " by NANCY REED ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I am a kind of paranoiac in reverse. I suspect people of plotting to make me happy.- JD Salinger |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 712106 Thailand 06/26/2009 09:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Local level folks. And I bet coming soon to your home state. Thread: Swine Flu Martial Law Bill Clears Massachusetts Senate. They have the right to ENTER YOUR HOME without your consent. . |
CuriouslyIncognito User ID: 706619 United States 06/26/2009 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sorry about the double post.... My PC is an ass. I am on one of my kids pc now :) again sorry ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "....So I told my Mom I was a prostitute because I didn't want her to know I was HERE doing This Shit !!! " by NANCY REED ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I am a kind of paranoiac in reverse. I suspect people of plotting to make me happy.- JD Salinger |
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CuriouslyIncognito User ID: 706619 United States 06/26/2009 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe I can find a pill-pushing Dr. Feelgood that will fake my shot records . Quoting: bubba 704316that might not be so difficult. My doctor is totally agaisnt vacinations. Good Luck ! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "....So I told my Mom I was a prostitute because I didn't want her to know I was HERE doing This Shit !!! " by NANCY REED ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I am a kind of paranoiac in reverse. I suspect people of plotting to make me happy.- JD Salinger |
Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 06/26/2009 09:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Swine Flu Martial Law Bill Clears Massachusetts Senate. They have the right to ENTER YOUR HOME without your consent. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 712106Local level folks. And I bet coming soon to your home state. Thread: Swine Flu Martial Law Bill Clears Massachusetts Senate. They have the right to ENTER YOUR HOME without your consent. . i saw that - this is some fucked up repugnant shit. we have no informed choice no fucking rights. :nannyobama: political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 712106 Thailand 06/26/2009 09:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i saw that - this is some fucked up repugnant shit. we have no informed choice no fucking rights. Quoting: Phennommennonn:nannyobama: You know the community drill, Phen. I've read your posts about community action. Now is the time we start to unify and educate at the local level to include city council meetings and state reps. . |
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The Jurist User ID: 699826 United States 06/26/2009 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course it is constitutional... You people are US citizens under the 14th Amendment. You are property of the state. Want to start to listen now? :tj_sn: Last Edited by The Jurist on 06/26/2009 11:59 AM ` (Be) Divide(ed) and (be) Conquer(ed)... Don’t listen to what they say, watch what they do. ~There is Tranquility in Ignorance, but Servitude is its Partner. —me ~What luck for Rulers that Men do not Think. —Adolf Hitler :damned: Doom is optional. There is good news abounds. |
Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 06/26/2009 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | prison planet picked this story up an hour ago [link to www.prisonplanet.com] Arkansas State Health Department: Mandatory Vaccines Are Constitutional Legal council tells concerned caller that American citizens must accept enforced shot in event of mass swine flu vaccination program Paul Joseph Watson Prison Planet.com Friday, June 26, 2009 A member of the public who was concerned about a mandatory mass vaccination program in light of the swine flu pandemic called the Arkansas State Health Department for advice only to be told that mandatory vaccines were constitutional and could be enforced at gunpoint by the government if necessary. The editor of the popular blog “Pissed Off Former Democrat” phoned the legal council at the Arkansas State Health Department to seek advice about obtaining waiver forms for a future mass swine flu vaccination program. One of his main concerns centered around the fact that the company chosen to mass produce the swine flu vaccine, Baxter International, were recently caught in a scandal after it emerged they had sent out vaccines contaminated with the H5N1 avian flu virus to 18 countries from their Austrian branch. It was only by providence that the contamination was found after the batch was first tested on ferrets in the Czech Republic, before being shipped out for injection into humans. The ferrets all died and the shocking discovery was made. Some Czech newspapers speculated at the time that Baxter was embroiled in a conspiracy to provoke a pandemic from which it would reap billions in profits from producing the vaccine to counter a bird flu outbreak. As we have previously covered, the last time the government ordered a mass vaccination drive in response to a swine flu outbreak, the program had to be stopped short after the shots caused over 500 cases of Guillain-Barre syndrome, a severe paralyzing nerve disease. 30 people died as a direct result of the vaccinations. During the phone conversation, the legal council discusses the potential of a future mandatory swine flu vaccination program and states, “That’s constitutional, there’s no doubt about it….mandatory vaccinations are legal under the Supreme Court….absolutely.” The caller responds, “I’m an American and I have a legal right to make my own decision whether or not someone sticks a needle in me,” to which the legal council responds, “That’s not true….no.” “As a lawyer you believe that I don’t have the right to deny a vaccination,” asks the caller,” to which the legal council responds, “Absolutely….I don’t know why you have a problem with that….mandatory vaccines are constitutional,” adding that it doesn’t matter about personal or religious objections. The caller then asks how the mandatory vaccine would be enforced by law, “for example somebody sticking a gun in my face,” to which the legal council responds, “you could be held liable.” The legal council at the Arkansas State Health Department cites the 1905 Supreme Court case of Jacobson v Massachusetts to argue that governments can force citizens to take vaccines. Less than 50 years before, in Dred Scott v. Sandford, the Supreme Court also ruled that black people were slaves - property of their slaveowners with no inherent rights whatsoever. 22 years after Jacobson v Mass., in Buck v Bell, the Supreme Court also ruled that people designated “feeble-minded” by the government could be sterilized. The fact that the Supreme Court made a ruling over 100 hundred years ago saying the government could inject people by force doesn’t make it morally or constitutionally justifiable. To stick needles in people at gunpoint by government decree is blatantly unconstitutional under any reasonable definition of basic human rights or the freedoms enumerated by the founders in the constitution itself. American Indians were rounded up and sent to death camps under legal orders, but that didn’t make it right or justifiable. Hitler’s mistreatment of Jews, Gypsies, political dissidents, homosexuals and others who resisted government policies imposed during times of “emergency” in Nazi Germany was all perpetrated behind a thin veil of legality, but that didn’t make it right either. As a member at the Prison Planet Forum points out, “Tyrannical evil loves to mask itself in the robes of righteousness, to justify itself with legal documents, to trample the very ideas of what Law and Right mean. Resisting that evil, rising against that tyranny, by saying No More. That is right.” As we previously reported, Time Magazine has been preparing Americans to accept the idea of mandatory vaccinations, reporting on April 28th that a mass vaccination program is being readied to combat swine flu while also urging Americans to “trust that the government is working for the greater good” and to not resist draconian measures. Listen to the phone call below. [link to www.dailymotion.com] political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
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Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 06/26/2009 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | worth looking into here re this despite the alarming info in the call. Vaccination Liberation - Exemption Information [link to www.vaclib.org] the natural solution foundation (HealthFreedomUSA.org) is a site that is actively working to get OUR voices heard. And they have been quite successful lately. Politicians have been brutal in trying to shut them down which speaks volumes. Here is the link, do your part! [link to www.healthfreedomusa.org] political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 712323 United States 06/26/2009 01:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Swine Flu Martial Law Bill Clears Massachusetts Senate. They have the right to ENTER YOUR HOME without your consent. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 712106However, they should be careful. I've heard that they are then very susceptible to lead poisoning. |