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Five-to-40-year-olds and Canada's aboriginal communities should be the first to get vaccinated against human swine flu, experts say as Canadian officials decide who gets priority for the flu shots.

Under Canada's official pandemic plan, the entire population would ultimately be immunized against the H1N1 swine flu.

But the vaccine will become available in batches, meaning the entire population can't be vaccinated at once. It might take four or five months to get all the vaccine we're going to get, during which time a second wave of swine flu may well be underway.

The Public Health Agency of Canada is working on a priority list, deciding where the first batches should go, and who should get the injections first. All provinces and territories would be expected to follow the national prioritization scheme.

Unlike normal seasonal flu, the H1N1 virus appears to be disproportionately infecting older children and young adults. So far the largest number of confirmed cases have occurred in people between the ages of five and 24.

"It doesn't mean they're all getting sick and need to be hospitalized, but they're getting significant illness," said Dr. Noni MacDonald, a leader in pediatric infectious diseases and a professor of pediatrics at Dalhousie University in Halifax.

British researchers reported last week that targeting children first would protect not only them, but also unvaccinated adults.

"Even if you are concerned about the elderly, who are often mentioned as another risk group, their main connection to the big pool of infection is often their grandchildren," said Dr. Thomas House of the University of Warwick.

But adults older than 64 don't appear to be at increased risk of H1N1-related complications so far in the outbreak. It's possible they have some antibodies against the virus.

As well, children "are known to be really important for transmitting flu," said Earl Brown, executive director of the Emerging Pathogens Research Centre at the University of Ottawa.

"They're important for the cycle of infection. They tend to be naive as far as not having flu antibodies in their system before. And really young kids, their immune systems aren't fully mature.

"Children tend to be hit, and they can be hit harder," Brown said. By immunizing children first, "you get to try to block spread, and protect a vulnerable group."

Gymnasiums would be used for mass school-based vaccination programs but experts say the harder to reach group will be the 18-to-30-year-olds.

"Some of them are in school, a lot of them are not," MacDonald said. "They're very much living in the moment and don't necessarily see themselves as being at risk. We need some fast thinking about how to reach those people."

She suggested booths could be set up outside bars for information and immunization.

"You've got to be creative about this and really think out of the box."

Canada's aboriginal communities also appear to be getting more serious infections. Crowded, poorly ventilated housing and poor access to high-quality running water and sanitization are some of the factors being blamed. Aboriginals also have higher rates of asthma, chronic lung disease, obesity and diabetes -- the very diseases early data suggests puts people at higher risk of life-threatening complications from swine flu.

The H1N1 vaccine will be a separate vaccine from the regular, annual flu shot. People will require two jabs, and possibly three, depending on how effective the vaccine is in producing immunity. The Public Health Agency of Canada says that no decisions have yet been made about who would get priority first.

One of the challenges will be getting people to agree to the shots. There will be limited information about any vaccine's safety before immunization campaigns are rolled out across the country.

"We usually do research in healthy adults before we do it in children, because this is a new vaccine, and you want to be sure that it's safe and effective before you give it to vulnerable populations, or populations who don't have full capacity to make an informed decision about getting it or not," said Dr. Joanne Langley, of Health Canada's National Advisory Committee on Immunization.

"There are pros and cons to putting [children] first."

Babies under six months of age are not vaccinated against flu.
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I don't have a clue how they will work this. It is unlikely any vaccine will be ready for human use before November and as the spread is still accelerating in summer, it will be everywhere by November.
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06/26/2009 08:59 AM
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Not to mention it has already mutated in brazil since they found a new strain, plus they cant force us to take it, theres no way im going to jab mercury into my body.
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06/26/2009 09:01 AM
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This is nothing more then profiteering.
If they make this law the ones who started it should be immediately arrested and investigated.
You will find huge sums of money paid to them in offshore accounts.
Because clearly it will do no good as the flu has already spread.
They are getting paid by the pharma company's.
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I wouldn't let them inject me with anything. And if they do every body and then say OPPS. Then what? You all die? No way.
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06/26/2009 09:06 AM
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Most Canadians won't take it.
Not the people I've spoken to anyway.
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Not to mention it has already mutated in brazil since they found a new strain, plus they cant force us to take it, theres no way im going to jab mercury into my body.
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I Agree. Mercury is dangerous. I know the usa is going to have to come up with a similar plan to vaccinate the public. I hope they hurry before it wipes out 1/2 the population. I am scared that the 3rd world aliens from mexico might bring it when tey cross the border, not to mention all the other stuff like t.b.. What ever happened to sarz and ebola, one miniute those were suppose to wipe out the population and then it just disapeared from the news radar. I think the govt is experimenting on the less fortunate people of the world. When are we gonna wake up?
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[link to www.phac-aspc.gc.ca] your pandemic plan.

They will attempt to do this. If you do not get the vaccine you will be classified a criminal.

BILL-C-6 is a easy way for the government. If passed YOU will have no more freedom. HealthCanada will have unlimited powers. They can storm your property. They can seize your property. They can hold you for no legal reason. The government will have complete power over all.

Kiss freedom goodbye.
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Guess the only way to escape tptb is to move to a small island somewhere dam :(
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Run for the hills. Don't get any of their stupid, population controlling, toxic, vaccinations. Just avoid fast food fries because most of the sick and dead were fast food fry eaters extreme. Check it out for yourself. Modified GM potatoes are giving H1N1 all the fodder it needs to become deadly. Don't believe me. Do your own research. Don't eat GM foods, they WILL kill you.
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Did you read the story about the Ottawa couple that wanted to be tested for the virus and they were refused because the tests cost too much and they were given Tamiflu. The health officials are aware of the virus but are letting it ride its course, that was yesterday in the news.

Now today your reporting this, I DO not believe that this is true, sorry.
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I can refuse and nobody is going to force me to take it.
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No one in my family is going to take this vaccine.

Fortunately we understand how the Canadian legal system works and who the Gov't actually has authority over versus the gov'ts illusion of authority.

All of Canada's Statutes & Acts of Parliament are actually voluntary and all threats are mis-worded legalese written in such away to give the appearance of authority.

Only the ignorant & un-educated fall for the corporation of Canada's thinly veiled offers of servitude.

Looks to me like the bankers are going to exterminate the native population and all the healthy Canadians 40 years & under capable of forming a resistance to the banking elite.

The same elite that foreclosed on the British Empire and stole the monarchy & common wealth from the Royal Family.
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Guess the only way to escape tptb is to move to a small island somewhere dam :(
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No escape! Only defensive positions as communities and take THEM DOWN!!! Never give them the power they think they have. We are above them as written in the bill of rights. More Canadians are waking up. Our country is not exempt from the New World Bondage. Once martial law is declared over the pandemic most will wonder WTF has just happened.
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People need to be pro-active.

Drug companies cannot get insurance for vaccines so laws were passed to disallow compensation claims. If a vaccine damages or kills you the complainant must prove that it was intentional on the part of the manufacturer.

This is what needs to be worked on. If a vaccine is to be enforced, when insurance companies will not even insure against it causing damage, then the govt itself should provide insurance.

The thing to do is test the case before they come and force a needle in your arm.
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Its just sad i wanst expecting canada to do something like

this true the article doesnt say that your forced to take it

but it kind of hints that down the road it might happen, who

knows what sideeffects a experimental vacine like this might

cause we all know what happened with the previous swine flu vacine.
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06/26/2009 09:36 AM
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Become familiar with the Pandemic Plan of Canada [link to www.phac-aspc.gc.ca]

They have been working on purchasing the shots for every Canadian for a couple of years.

Again, I suggest becoming familiar with BILL-C-6.
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Canada is now really known as THE SOCIALISST REPUBLIC OF CANADA!
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Canada is now really known as THE SOCIALISST REPUBLIC OF CANADA!
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