I'm interested only in responses from those who know.
Q: What I start - must it become manifest at some point, or is my query the result of unscrupulous exploitation?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 712647
It's not a game.
It's a determination whether you want to be a game piece or a Soul with a future.
And how you comport yourself plays into the judgment you will receive when your turn is up. (>#( >7( >~SheChaiYAH -- JUST A PROGRAMMED MEAT-SUIT? Nah! -- BANNED for VIEWS @ ATS, BBC, Crows, AstroVera, Open Minds & Military.com
Anonymous Coward User ID: 712647 (OP) 6/26/2009 10:17 PM
Re: ATTN. SOMEONE WHO KNOWS. EXPLAIN THE LAWS GOVERNING THE GAME OF GOOD AND EVIL
You have reasonable insight, but your comprehension lacks pragmatism. You neglect to realize the scope, or perhaps the magnitude of the efforts involved here, particularly on the part of the antagonizing camp.
You attribute some form of personal hubris as the foundation of this query appreciating neither its urgency nor its earnestness.
When (at least in the guise of extraordinary recurrent coincidence) the metaphysical becomes accessible in the cold light of day, the initial response is only ever panic.
The attacks are of the most personal nature -- tempered by an impersonal pervasiveness nothing less than obscene.
You suggest taking a scenic route to comprehension, but I have to tell you that to do so would involve supplication for forgiveness. You see, beyond my control - the consequences of my trivial actions have been dire. Materials meant for a tabernacle somehow wind up as bricks in the high walls of the ever POPULAR synagogue of Satan.
I guess my query derives from both of your sets of alternatives.
I cannot "do it" if doing it augments the war chest of my unseen foe.
I suspect that your query is an indulgence in self-importance.
If you are asking the question "I feel I'm playing an important role in this great game. I'm being prompted to do this and that, I believe with the aim of achieving this or that. If I do it, will it happen? Or am I just a pawn being manipulated to do this for the aims and glory of others?"
If that's your question who cares apart from you. Do it or don't do it, destiny will unfold. It's very dangerous to get caught up in glory. It's referred to as "the path of high adventure". We all have a destiny, whether so-called great or small. Our true destinies are all the same - everything done in the material is of no consequence, except that it results in spiritual change.
The only benefit to a self-importance trip is that it prompts us to move beyond human mundanity. Better to ask the spirit if you are doing the right thing rather than other people. Remember that the spirit's touch is soft, so soft and it does not sit above, you do not strive for it or try to reach it, it lies within.
If your query is a little different:
It is a game, in a sense, but with significant consequences.
In reference to that, on this conceptual axis there are 3 stages of attitude:
1) This is a struggle for survival
2) It's a game, there are rules, there is a way to win (be careful not to fall into - it's all a joke, nothing matters)
3) This is a struggle to be free. There is no winning or losing, only the goal.
Evil does follow rules.
How could it be any other way?
There are specific objectives to be met.
If evil were not under strict control, the objectives could not be met.
One of the most important facets of evil is that it largely responds to humanity's inner state.
Again it could be no other way.
In fact, it is only the shadow of a reflection.
If it were a true reflection this world would boil in an anarchic orgy of violence.
Both of your questions are correct, unless I misinterpret.
What you intend will only not be manifest:
a) If you divert your attention from it and stop feeding it energy
b) If it is determined that the manifestation would have disadvantageous consequences.
Generally though, we are forced to confront the demon within.
The law of attraction, while seemingly solid on the surface has this problem when humans attempt to use it: namely that the things humans desire they desire in order to overcome a cesspit of error. Since all human motivation ultimately derives from the negative, when you attempt to manifest the positive you will invariably also/only attract the opposite.
Your query is also the result of exploitation, although the primary motivation behind that exploitation is to provoke you into action, especially through the construction of internal dissonance. Every thought a human has is largely initiated from outside, and the thoughts rather than primal in nature are merely a reaction to external input.
This external input is also designed to draw attention and thereby energy to keep humans in a weakened energetic state.
The laws are strict and binding upon all who enter into this world. There is only one way out and it is called the path or the way or the narrow road. All the ditches along the way are there to prevent us from reinforcing error.
Self-control is the key and there are many levels to it. What humans term self-control is merely the lowest expression and must eventually be surpassed.
And if your query was totally different, he's something not so completely different:
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 706660
Anonymous Coward User ID: 712647 (OP) 6/26/2009 10:26 PM
Re: ATTN. SOMEONE WHO KNOWS. EXPLAIN THE LAWS GOVERNING THE GAME OF GOOD AND EVIL
If I'm forced into the blockage instigated by conversion/inversion of gifts, there is stagnation.
Of this I have seen the benefits as well as the detriment.
I suspect that your query is an indulgence in self-importance.
If you are asking the question "I feel I'm playing an important role in this great game. I'm being prompted to do this and that, I believe with the aim of achieving this or that. If I do it, will it happen? Or am I just a pawn being manipulated to do this for the aims and glory of others?"
If that's your question who cares apart from you. Do it or don't do it, destiny will unfold. It's very dangerous to get caught up in glory. It's referred to as "the path of high adventure". We all have a destiny, whether so-called great or small. Our true destinies are all the same - everything done in the material is of no consequence, except that it results in spiritual change.
The only benefit to a self-importance trip is that it prompts us to move beyond human mundanity. Better to ask the spirit if you are doing the right thing rather than other people. Remember that the spirit's touch is soft, so soft and it does not sit above, you do not strive for it or try to reach it, it lies within.
If your query is a little different:
It is a game, in a sense, but with significant consequences.
In reference to that, on this conceptual axis there are 3 stages of attitude:
1) This is a struggle for survival
2) It's a game, there are rules, there is a way to win (be careful not to fall into - it's all a joke, nothing matters)
3) This is a struggle to be free. There is no winning or losing, only the goal.
Evil does follow rules.
How could it be any other way?
There are specific objectives to be met.
If evil were not under strict control, the objectives could not be met.
One of the most important facets of evil is that it largely responds to humanity's inner state.
Again it could be no other way.
In fact, it is only the shadow of a reflection.
If it were a true reflection this world would boil in an anarchic orgy of violence.
Both of your questions are correct, unless I misinterpret.
What you intend will only not be manifest:
a) If you divert your attention from it and stop feeding it energy
b) If it is determined that the manifestation would have disadvantageous consequences.
Generally though, we are forced to confront the demon within.
The law of attraction, while seemingly solid on the surface has this problem when humans attempt to use it: namely that the things humans desire they desire in order to overcome a cesspit of error. Since all human motivation ultimately derives from the negative, when you attempt to manifest the positive you will invariably also/only attract the opposite.
Your query is also the result of exploitation, although the primary motivation behind that exploitation is to provoke you into action, especially through the construction of internal dissonance. Every thought a human has is largely initiated from outside, and the thoughts rather than primal in nature are merely a reaction to external input.
This external input is also designed to draw attention and thereby energy to keep humans in a weakened energetic state.
The laws are strict and binding upon all who enter into this world. There is only one way out and it is called the path or the way or the narrow road. All the ditches along the way are there to prevent us from reinforcing error.
Self-control is the key and there are many levels to it. What humans term self-control is merely the lowest expression and must eventually be surpassed.
And if your query was totally different, he's something not so completely different:
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 706660
Anonymous Coward User ID: 712647 (OP) 6/26/2009 10:33 PM
Re: ATTN. SOMEONE WHO KNOWS. EXPLAIN THE LAWS GOVERNING THE GAME OF GOOD AND EVIL
Have you learned NOTHING yet living on this planet from HELL??
Evil does not respect, acknowledge and certainly DOES NOT adhere to any rules!! Thats part of what makes them evil...
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 712548
Now wait a minute. What rules are we talking here AC? I for one don't have much respect for man made rules. Some are reasonable of course for a civilized society, but many violate the rights of decent people.
I'm interested only in responses from those who know.
Q: What I start - must it become manifest at some point, or is my query the result of unscrupulous exploitation?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 712647
Are you asking if what you start would happen anyways or if its premeditated by someone manipulating you?
if you have the power to prevent it then it only becomes manifest by your choice. Its not what led or started the action that ultimately decides if the action occurs or not, its all the time in between where you could have changed your mind and didn't. By allowing an illegal/evil action to occur when you had the power to stop it makes you culpable to that action. its in that moment of hesitation that you determine your nature.
whether you are being manipulated or not is irrelevant. and ultimately whether the action occurs or not is irrelevant as well, its the choice you make that determines who you are, and you always have a choice.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 712647 (OP) 6/26/2009 10:40 PM
Re: ATTN. SOMEONE WHO KNOWS. EXPLAIN THE LAWS GOVERNING THE GAME OF GOOD AND EVIL
I'm interested only in responses from those who know.
Q: What I start - must it become manifest at some point, or is my query the result of unscrupulous exploitation?
Are you asking if what you start would happen anyways or if its premeditated by someone manipulating you?
if you have the power to prevent it then it only becomes manifest by your choice. Its not what led or started the action that ultimately decides if the action occurs or not, its all the time in between where you could have changed your mind and didn't. By allowing an illegal/evil action to occur when you had the power to stop it makes you culpable to that action. its in that moment of hesitation that you determine your nature.
whether you are being manipulated or not is irrelevant. and ultimately whether the action occurs or not is irrelevant as well, its the choice you make that determines who you are, and you always have a choice.
Quoting: shalis
1/5.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 712647 (OP) 6/26/2009 10:59 PM
Re: ATTN. SOMEONE WHO KNOWS. EXPLAIN THE LAWS GOVERNING THE GAME OF GOOD AND EVIL
"What you intend will only not be manifest:
a) If you divert your attention from it and stop feeding it energy
b) If it is determined that the manifestation would have disadvantageous consequences."
The are external antagonists, factors independent of whatever drives local players to prey on so-called pawns.
Some of these were set in motion long ago and cannot be stopped.
It just so happens that coincident intent in that direction MUST be consummated.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 706660 6/26/2009 11:40 PM
Re: ATTN. SOMEONE WHO KNOWS. EXPLAIN THE LAWS GOVERNING THE GAME OF GOOD AND EVIL
"What you intend will only not be manifest:
a) If you divert your attention from it and stop feeding it energy
b) If it is determined that the manifestation would have disadvantageous consequences."
The are external antagonists, factors independent of whatever drives local players to prey on so-called pawns.
Some of these were set in motion long ago and cannot be stopped.
It just so happens that coincident intent in that direction MUST be consummated.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 712647
Interesting that it put me as anonymous coward.
A message to me perhaps - the spirit is amazing. In every interaction we have there are 100 different channels working together to achieve a result.
I saw from your post after I posted that you had sincerity. But what we do must stand.
Yes they cannot be stopped. The best that can be done is to no longer interact with them. There is method behind their madness. And it may well be your fate to see what they intend consummated. However, if it is your ardent wish that that does not occur, then it is more likely a test.
We are only ever confronted by what we can stand. The stronger you are, the more direct the attack. It can seem that you do not have the power to withstand it, but that's an illusion like everything else. And they can only work with what you have sitting inside of you. What is inside of us is not us though - it is a foreign invader if you like. They attack us to elicit awareness of the foreign filth that taints our spirits and must someday be overcome.
Intent is everything. By struggling we strengthen our intent. In the state we're in intent cannot be felt, or touched or seen, it can only do.
There is no magical answer to what confronts us. Magic is a myth created by Satan. All magic does is direct intent, but the ceremony acts to bind us more tightly.
There is a great answer though, that will always work if one wills it. Within us the Spirit has planted what is best termed the Christ within. It contains everything necessary to withstand the assaults. To touch it you must first align yourself with the wishes of the Spirit. Later you can allow your intent to be a conduit for the Spirit.
All evil that assails us is able to do so because we allow it. We are open to it, and to shut these doors is one of the goals. We are open to it because we are aligned to it within. To start to close the gap we must align with different ideas and fix our intent and awareness upon them. This is what is meant by following God and following Christ.
For instance here are some concepts that when focused on as the core of our being start to align us with the spirit and to change us and to close the doors - equality, the sacredness of intent (the spirit), personal strength, determination, faith in the Spirit, ourselves and the path, rejection of evil.
There is great benefit in forgiveness. We seek forgiveness not only from God but from ourselves. In the depths of our souls we believe ourselves to be evil and this taints everything we do. Everything we do in life is an attempt to escape this perception.
Once the door to the metaphysical as you term it has been opened, it cannot be shut in this life. It is the natural state. The human state is an abomination that this universe is determined to destroy.
Stay strong in yourself. You know the difference between right and wrong. Regardless of how powerful a force is - if it pushes you to do things you regard as wrong then resist and do not give up no matter the pressure. Eventually the struggle will bear fruit, though usually it takes many years. Invite God to be your ally in the struggle.
Again I may have misinterpreted. If so I wish you well. Have faith. We walk the road alone with the Spirit - it cannot be any other way.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 712955 6/27/2009 5:05 AM
Re: ATTN. SOMEONE WHO KNOWS. EXPLAIN THE LAWS GOVERNING THE GAME OF GOOD AND EVIL
The unstoppable external adverse consequences I spoke of are against "Satan." Of course, you, already knew this.
I will continue to fulfill the remit to bring to the attention of those most in need of it the truth. I will tailor the work for maximum desired effect alone.
The enemy can cherry pick from those efforts whatever he deems recyclable, as he has done for over two decades, and more.
Hopefully others will appreciate from this the self-same pattern which leads to a rudimentary yet invaluable comprehension of their own responsibilities.
He, the enemy, can wallow in his fantastic fantasies too, knowing latitude for converting/inverting intent continues to diminish.
Anonymous Coward 706660
You were wrong on at least one point.
"What you intend will only not be manifest:
a) If you divert your attention from it and stop feeding it energy
b) If it is determined that the manifestation would have disadvantageous consequences."
The are external antagonists, factors independent of whatever drives local players to prey on so-called pawns.
Some of these were set in motion long ago and cannot be stopped.
It just so happens that coincident intent in that direction MUST be consummated.
Interesting that it put me as anonymous coward.
A message to me perhaps - the spirit is amazing. In every interaction we have there are 100 different channels working together to achieve a result.
I saw from your post after I posted that you had sincerity. But what we do must stand.
Yes they cannot be stopped. The best that can be done is to no longer interact with them. There is method behind their madness. And it may well be your fate to see what they intend consummated. However, if it is your ardent wish that that does not occur, then it is more likely a test.
We are only ever confronted by what we can stand. The stronger you are, the more direct the attack. It can seem that you do not have the power to withstand it, but that's an illusion like everything else. And they can only work with what you have sitting inside of you. What is inside of us is not us though - it is a foreign invader if you like. They attack us to elicit awareness of the foreign filth that taints our spirits and must someday be overcome.
Intent is everything. By struggling we strengthen our intent. In the state we're in intent cannot be felt, or touched or seen, it can only do.
There is no magical answer to what confronts us. Magic is a myth created by Satan. All magic does is direct intent, but the ceremony acts to bind us more tightly.
There is a great answer though, that will always work if one wills it. Within us the Spirit has planted what is best termed the Christ within. It contains everything necessary to withstand the assaults. To touch it you must first align yourself with the wishes of the Spirit. Later you can allow your intent to be a conduit for the Spirit.
All evil that assails us is able to do so because we allow it. We are open to it, and to shut these doors is one of the goals. We are open to it because we are aligned to it within. To start to close the gap we must align with different ideas and fix our intent and awareness upon them. This is what is meant by following God and following Christ.
For instance here are some concepts that when focused on as the core of our being start to align us with the spirit and to change us and to close the doors - equality, the sacredness of intent (the spirit), personal strength, determination, faith in the Spirit, ourselves and the path, rejection of evil.
There is great benefit in forgiveness. We seek forgiveness not only from God but from ourselves. In the depths of our souls we believe ourselves to be evil and this taints everything we do. Everything we do in life is an attempt to escape this perception.
Once the door to the metaphysical as you term it has been opened, it cannot be shut in this life. It is the natural state. The human state is an abomination that this universe is determined to destroy.
Stay strong in yourself. You know the difference between right and wrong. Regardless of how powerful a force is - if it pushes you to do things you regard as wrong then resist and do not give up no matter the pressure. Eventually the struggle will bear fruit, though usually it takes many years. Invite God to be your ally in the struggle.
Again I may have misinterpreted. If so I wish you well. Have faith. We walk the road alone with the Spirit - it cannot be any other way.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 706660
Anonymous Coward User ID: 713132 6/27/2009 11:03 AM
Re: ATTN. SOMEONE WHO KNOWS. EXPLAIN THE LAWS GOVERNING THE GAME OF GOOD AND EVIL
The 'game' is a reflection of a lower form of self
a carnal, clumsy expression, of mans inept understanding of the eternal spirit/matter axiom
a technological answer to profundities obscured by reason
reason being the veil
the 'reason'
to keep creation viable
a game designed to abrogate natures rule
a game so corrupted by greed
so inured to the suffering of others
a game doomed from its inception
here is why
prehistory shows the resident population had the geometric understanding to paint the celestial zodiac on the roof of caves in significant geo-ley positions
further exploration of later history shows the SAME representations, of the Solar System, with additions, displacements, and revisions of the way of the Ancient I AM
diligence presses further to ask of us; why?
why did the ancient knowledge of a failed species; neanderthal man, become the Arcane study of Mystery schools?
Why was Orphichius removed from the gregorian zodiac?
Why was the communion with nature which underpinned the neanderthal's understanding of our intrinsic role in the universe supplanted with a scorn for the natural, preferring the profane, indeed invoking the most carnal of destiny of matter sins. That of Sacrifice.
And still, ask of yourself this; why is it that the knowledge of the tonal resonant incantation was lost, at the Building of The Temple?
I'll tell you why.
Greed
Lust
Envy
So, what does this tell us of the Game?
It tells us that a flawed model was chosen, a model which prospers the 'player' at the top, whilst diminishing the rights, opportunities and fortunes at the bottom, whilst increasing their obligations...
sound familiar?
I'll tell you why that is....
Compression of time
another flawed paradigm of the game 'plan'
I did warn them.
However as the keys to creation must be kept simple so a fool can keep the sacred away from the profane, they are safe, as a house.
One laughs at the psuedo intellectualiztion of the technocratic boors, who, long ago, forsook Spirit for Matter in their quest for Eternal Dominion.
Correct use of a concordance would demonstrate the fine line between Dominion, and Damnation.
As all is the same, varying by degree.
So, lots of Paradox
A ship of fools rolloing the wrong dice in a gladstone bag en route to the abyss?
A crown
An Anchor
For where is a throne to stand, but on Anchored ground?
At least, this time round, there was a contingency,
lest the egocentric fools in control of the 'game', lost their decorum, played rough, and were late at the table.
Mum, and Dad, want the WHOLE Family Home
At the End of Days
Good luck
Anonymous Coward User ID: 713132 6/27/2009 12:08 PM
Re: ATTN. SOMEONE WHO KNOWS. EXPLAIN THE LAWS GOVERNING THE GAME OF GOOD AND EVIL
The 'game' is a reflection of a lower form of self
a carnal, clumsy expression, of mans inept understanding of the eternal spirit/matter axiom
a technological answer to profundities obscured by reason
reason being the veil
the 'reason'
to keep creation viable
a game designed to abrogate natures rule
a game so corrupted by greed
so inured to the suffering of others
a game doomed from its inception
here is why
prehistory shows the resident population had the geometric understanding to paint the celestial zodiac on the roof of caves in significant geo-ley positions
further exploration of later history shows the SAME representations, of the Solar System, with additions, displacements, and revisions of the way of the Ancient I AM
diligence presses further to ask of us; why?
why did the ancient knowledge of a failed species; neanderthal man, become the Arcane study of Mystery schools?
Why was Orphichius removed from the gregorian zodiac?
Why was the communion with nature which underpinned the neanderthal's understanding of our intrinsic role in the universe supplanted with a scorn for the natural, preferring the profane, indeed invoking the most carnal of destiny of matter sins. That of Sacrifice.
And still, ask of yourself this; why is it that the knowledge of the tonal resonant incantation was lost, at the Building of The Temple?
I'll tell you why.
Greed
Lust
Envy
So, what does this tell us of the Game?
It tells us that a flawed model was chosen, a model which prospers the 'player' at the top, whilst diminishing the rights, opportunities and fortunes at the bottom, whilst increasing their obligations...
sound familiar?
I'll tell you why that is....
Compression of time
another flawed paradigm of the game 'plan'
I did warn them.
However as the keys to creation must be kept simple so a fool can keep the sacred away from the profane, they are safe, as a house.
One laughs at the psuedo intellectualiztion of the technocratic boors, who, long ago, forsook Spirit for Matter in their quest for Eternal Dominion.
Correct use of a concordance would demonstrate the fine line between Dominion, and Damnation.
As all is the same, varying by degree.
So, lots of Paradox
A ship of fools rolloing the wrong dice in a gladstone bag en route to the abyss?
A crown
An Anchor
For where is a throne to stand, but on Anchored ground?
At least, this time round, there was a contingency,
lest the egocentric fools in control of the 'game', lost their decorum, played rough, and were late at the table.
Mum, and Dad, want the WHOLE Family Home
At the End of Days
Good luck
Quoting: Flaming sword 713046
0.01/5
Anonymous Coward User ID: 713130 6/27/2009 12:14 PM
Re: ATTN. SOMEONE WHO KNOWS. EXPLAIN THE LAWS GOVERNING THE GAME OF GOOD AND EVIL
Look - it's all good! no entity acts in any other manner than for good, it would be insane to act in any other way.
Question is then: for who's good? - fine if your a bacterium, but what if you are a more advanced creature and you exist as an entity in the physical world and the biological world and as a social entity (astral world/emotions) and as a mental entity.
What then?
Got Questions? User ID: 710597 6/27/2009 12:19 PM
Re: ATTN. SOMEONE WHO KNOWS. EXPLAIN THE LAWS GOVERNING THE GAME OF GOOD AND EVIL
Have you learned NOTHING yet living on this planet from HELL??
Evil does not respect, acknowledge and certainly DOES NOT adhere to any rules!! Thats part of what makes them evil...
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 712548
Ahh, but do not forget about those rules which have been imposed upon evil, which evil cannot escape.
Got Questions? User ID: 710597 6/27/2009 12:20 PM
Re: ATTN. SOMEONE WHO KNOWS. EXPLAIN THE LAWS GOVERNING THE GAME OF GOOD AND EVIL
Evil in it's simplest form is a lower energy pattern, whereas good exists on the higher end of the spectrum!!
The higher energy ascends, and the lower energy descends!!
As biological units we choose according to the laws of attraction, except in the rare cases of possession by darker energies!!
This is where the concept that hell is below in the lower realms, and heaven upwards!!
Thoughts create, and negative thoughts attract/produce lower energies, and positive thoughts attract the higher!!
IMHO!
___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Quoting: HardTruth
A standard New Age answer.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 694329 6/27/2009 12:38 PM
Re: ATTN. SOMEONE WHO KNOWS. EXPLAIN THE LAWS GOVERNING THE GAME OF GOOD AND EVIL
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