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WND Exclusive BORN IN THE USA? For sale on eBay: Obama's 'Kenyan birth certificate' Seller claims Mombasa document 'certified copy

 
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WND Exclusive BORN IN THE USA?
For sale on eBay: Obama's 'Kenyan birth certificate'
Seller claims Mombasa document 'certified copy'
Posted: June 27, 2009
12:40 am Eastern

By Bob Unruh
© 2009 WorldNetDaily

With dozens of lawsuits filed over access to Barack Obama's certified long-form birth certificate, many more lawyers working on his behalf to keep it secret and the validity of the U.S. Constitution hanging in the balance, guess where a "certified copy" of the original Mombasa "document" has been found?

On eBay.

Item No. 160344928067, at least as of today, is described as "a certified copy of President Barack Obama's Kenyan Birth Certificate."

The seller, identified by the user name " colmado_naranja," states, "President Barack Hussein Obama II was born in The Coast Provincial Hospital at Mombasa in Kenya at 7:24 PM on August 4th, 1961."


eBay offer for Obama's Kenyan birth certificate

The suspicion that Coast Provincial is, in fact, Obama's birth hospital is not new, with the subject having been discussed on both Internet blogs and forums already.

But the seller, who according to the eBay rankings has completed dozens of transactions on the behemoth auction site without difficulties, said this is the real deal.

The seller, who did not respond to a WND request for an interview, said online he was traveling in Kenya and repeatedly heard stories that Obama actually was born in Kenya.


"Kenyans were amused at how gullible Americans could be when it came to obvious things like the fact that Kenyans overtly admit to Barack Jr's Kenyan birth, yet the Americans continue to believe that they know better," the seller writes.

"I delved further and found that a birth certificate was on file at The Coast Provincial General Hospital at Mombasa," said the seller, who claims the certificate is in Cedar Rapids, Iowa.

"I know several American expats that reside in Kenya. I asked the three that I could reach if they were aware of President Barack Obama's Kenyan birth. All three said that they were most obviously aware of his Kenyan birth. I was shocked. They went to further say that they weren't much concerned with it, after all they'd left the U.S. to start a new life abroad and didn't have much interest in what was taking place in the States. Besides, they said, who would believe them anyway?

"Along with my Congolese brother Andylenny (brother in heart, not blood) and a 1993 BMW with only one working door I was off to Mombasa to get myself a copy (certified I hoped) of Barack Jr's birth certificate," the seller reported.

Actual details of how the "certificate" was obtained are not reported.


Search of eBay auction site for 'birth certificate' brought up this list

"I am not posting any photos of the birth certificate here on eBay. I have not seen this birth certificate anywhere on the Internet, to post it here on eBay would lead to a flood of facsimiles on the Internet. This would inadvertently decrease the value of the certificate as well," the seller said.

WND has reported on dozens of legal challenges to Obama's status as a "natural born citizen." The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, states, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."

Some of the lawsuits question whether he was actually born in Hawaii, as he insists. If he was born out of the country, Obama's American mother, the suits contend, was too young at the time of his birth to confer American citizenship to her son under the law at the time.

Other challenges have focused on Obama's citizenship through his father, a Kenyan subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of his birth, thus making him a dual citizen. The cases contend the framers of the Constitution excluded dual citizens from qualifying as natural born.

Send a contribution to support the national billboard campaign that asks a simple question: "Where's the birth certificate?"

Complicating the situation is Obama's decision to spend sums estimated in the hundreds of thousands of dollars to avoid releasing a state birth certificate that would put to rest all of the questions.

WND has reported that among the documentation not yet available for Obama includes his kindergarten records, his Punahou school records, his Occidental College records, his Columbia University records, his Columbia thesis, his Harvard Law School records, his Harvard Law Review articles, his scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, his passport, his medical records, his files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records, and his adoption records.


"Where's The Birth Certificate?" billboard in Pennsylvania

Because of the dearth of information about Obama's eligibility, WND founder Joseph Farah has launched a campaign to raise contributions to post billboards asking a simple question: "Where's the birth certificate?"

The campaign followed a petition that has collected almost 400,000 signatures demanding proof of his eligibility, the availability of yard signs raising the question and the production of permanent, detachable magnetic bumper stickers asking the question.

The birth certificate seller is a self-proclaimed "collector of old Dominican and Cuban money" and has worked in the Congo.

"This spring I traveled through Kenya and its capital Nairobi. I was overwhelmed by the 'iconicized' face of U.S. President Barack Obama that displays itself throughout the country. I had lunch at a small eatery and noticed that the club sandwich with fried plantains was now known as 'Obama's Plate of the Day,'" the seller writes. "As an American I was bombarded with questions in English (English is national language of Kenya) on my feelings and opinions of a Kenyan governing the United States of America. The first several times I responded in saying that not enough time had elapsed since Barack Obama's appointment as president of the U.S.A., and that I'd have to hold my official opinion until at least January 2010, a year in office might be sufficient for me to judge his ability to govern the U.S.A.

"Naturally I thought that by 'Kenyan' they were referring to Barack Obama's blood, being that his father Barack Obama Sr. was a native of Kenya. After a day and a half of my being in Nairobi I learned that they were literally referring to President Barack Obama Jr. as being born in Kenya, a native of Kenya."

The seller also cited the fact that Obama has not release his "Hawaiian" birth certificate. His administration, the seller sayd, "in an attempt to put the birth certificate issue to a rest, has presented the American public with a FAKE, FORGED, Fraudulent Hawaiian Birth Certificate."

The seller indicated a willingness to respond to questions about the item, for which bidding was set to begin at $1,000. But the seller said questions would be evaluated and may not get a direct response.

The "certification of live birth" posted online and widely touted as "Obama's birth certificate" does not in any way prove he was born in Hawaii, since the same "short-form" document is easily obtainable for children not born in Hawaii. The true "long-form" birth certificate – which includes information such as the name of the birth hospital and attending physician – is the only document that can prove Obama was born in Hawaii, but to date he has not permitted its release for public or press scrutiny.

Oddly, though congressional hearings were held to determine whether Sen. John McCain was constitutionally eligible to be president as a "natural born citizen," no controlling legal authority ever sought to verify Obama's claim to a Hawaiian birth.


I just love this part of the article.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Kenyans were amused at how gullible Americans could be when it came to obvious things like the fact that Kenyans overtly admit to Barack Jr's Kenyan birth, yet the Americans continue to believe that they know better," the seller writes.
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ebay keep removing it:

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Dear eBay Community (sellers and bidders),

Within the last 72 hours I've twice listed President Barack Obama's African birth certificate for auction here on eBay. The auction has been canceled twice now by eBay.

The first cancelation was done in what eBay describes as being in the interests of keeping my account safe. Ebay was under the impression that a third party had accessed and compromised my account, that this third party put up the Barack Obama African Birth Certificate auction and that I had no knowledge of the said listing.

Below are copies and pastes of the three ebay alerts that I received when the first auction was pulled (President Barack Hussein Obama Kenya Birth Certificate – item # 160344374585).

MC010 Support Warning - TKO (Selling) - Restored Account

Hello colmado_naranja (XXXXXXXXXXXXXX@VVVVV.com),

Your account was accessed by an unauthorized third party to list items without your authorization. At this time we have taken several steps to secure your eBay account. Rest assured that your credit card and banking information is safe on the eBay site, as this information is kept encrypted on a secure server and cannot be viewed by anyone.

To regain control of your account, please complete the following steps:

1. Change the password on your personal email account to verify that it is secure and cannot be accessed by anyone other than you.

2. Change the password on your eBay account. Go to the eBay sign-in page, click the "Forgot your password" link, and change your password using the instructions provided.

3. Verify the contact information on your account is correct. Go to My eBay and click the "Personal Information" link under My Account.

To better understand how your account was compromised, please take a moment to review the Account Protection tutorial.

[link to pages.ebay.com]

We're sorry for the inconvenience, and we thank you for your patience and understanding.

Sincerely,

eBay Customer Support

H19601

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MC012 eBay Listing Removed: (<TDE_TNS_CASE_ID>)
Dear colmado_naranja (XXXXXXXXXXXXXX@VVVVV.com),

You recently listed the following :

160344374585 - President Barack Hussein Obama Kenya Birth Certificate


Unfortunately, we had to remove your listing because the following information violates our policy:













You can review our listing removal policies and seller rules by clicking the links below.

Thanks for your understanding.

Sincerely,

eBay Trust and Safety team


Why eBay may remove your listing:
[link to pages.ebay.com]

Knowing the rules for sellers:
[link to pages.ebay.com]

Dear colmado_naranja (dawnella_wilson@yahoo.com),

You recently listed the following :

160344374585 - President Barack Hussein Obama Kenya Birth Certificate


Unfortunately, we had to remove your listing because the following information violates our policy:













You can review our listing removal policies and seller rules by clicking the links below.

Thanks for your understanding.

Sincerely,

eBay Trust and Safety team


Why eBay may remove your listing:
[link to pages.ebay.com]

Knowing the rules for sellers:
[link to pages.ebay.com]


H55424


H55424

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MC027 Billing - Temporary Exclusion From Automatic Payment of Selling Fees




Hello colmado_naranja (dawnella_wilson@yahoo.com),

Your account was accessed by an unauthorized third party to list items without your authorization. At this time we have taken several steps to secure your eBay account. Rest assured that your credit card and banking information is safe on the eBay site, as this information is kept encrypted on a secure server and cannot be viewed by anyone.

To regain control of your account, please complete the following steps:

1. Change the password on your personal email account to verify that it is secure and cannot be accessed by anyone other than you.

2. Change the password on your eBay account. Go to the eBay sign-in page, click the "Forgot your password" link, and change your password using the instructions provided.

3. Verify the contact information on your account is correct. Go to My eBay and click the "Personal Information" link under My Account.

To better understand how your account was compromised, please take a moment to review the Account Protection tutorial.

[link to pages.ebay.com]

We're sorry for the inconvenience, and we thank you for your patience and understanding.

Sincerely,

eBay Customer Support


H19601


Dear colmado_naranja (XXXXXXXXXXXXXX@VVVVV.com),

We have temporarily disabled the automatic payment of your invoices. We're sorry for the inconvenience, but we've taken this action to ensure that you're being charged only for amounts that you actually owe.

If you're not currently an active seller, then our action should have no effect upon your account and the following information is for your information only.

***Important***
If you have listed items recently or plan to list items in the near future, please review the following information carefully. You may be required to take action in order to ensure that your account remains current.

For the next 7 days, eBay will not attempt to make automatic payment for the invoices of your selling fees. However, the due dates for all selling fees have not changed. If any valid fees are due within the next 30-60 days, a manual one-time payment will be required in order to keep your account current.

To make a one-time manual payment:
1. Click the "Site Map" link at the top of the eBay home page.
2. Scroll to the bottom of the page and click the "Make a Single Payment" link that appears under the "My Selling Account" heading.
3. Follow the instructions provided.

If a payment is already in progress, it will go through as planned. If an automatic payment goes through in the next few days and you think the amount may be incorrect, please contact the Billing Team immediately by clicking the "Contact Us" link on the eBay home page.

If you have any questions about the amount due or need help making a manual payment, please click the "Contact Us" link that appears at the top of the eBay home page. Members of our Billing Team are available to help you 24 hours a day.

Thank you for your understanding.

Sincerely,

eBay Inc.

H18677

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Note that the mid section of the second alert consists of 9 blank lines. This is the segment of the the message that should list violations of policy. At this time there were no violations. As stated, their reasoning was that an auction as atypical as this must be the result of a compromised account.

I swiftly contacted eBay customer support to advise them of the listing's validity. After 30-45 minutes of live customer support and telephone calls I was able to confirm that I was the account's owner and that I was in fact putting up the auction for Barack Obama's African birth certificate.

With eBay's permission I quickly posted my listing again for Barack's birth certificate. Long night.

I awoke this morning to a healthy looking eBay auction, nurtured by the more than 130 bids that had been placed within a span of just a few hours. The top bid was for more than $2200. Within the next hour the bidding had climbed to more than $5,500. I'm not sure how high bids actually went before eBay again canceled my listing.

This time their reasoning for the cancellation was that birth certificates and other forms are government ID are prohibited on eBay. Directly below I have copied and pasted this alert as well. This was in regard to eBay item # 160344928067.

MC036 eBay Listing Removed: Government IDs and Licenses (309576254)
Dear colmado_naranja (XXXXXXXXXXXXXX@VVVVV.com),

You recently listed the following auction-style listing:

160344928067 - President Barack Hussein Obama Kenya Birth Certificate


Unfortunately, we had to remove your listing because the following information violates our policy:

Birth certificates are prohibited on eBay.





eBay does not allow members to sell government IDs and licenses, or items that claim to be or look similar to these items. For more information on this eBay policy, please visit:

[link to pages.ebay.com]







Please note: violation of this or other eBay policies may result in forfeit of eBay fees on cancelled listings, limits on account privileges and account suspension.

You can review our list of prohibited and restricted items here:
[link to pages.ebay.com]

Your listing(s) may be eligible for relisting through My eBay. If your listing is eligible, you will see the listing in your Unsold Items page within My eBay. Listings that are not eligible for relisting will not be visible in the Unsold Items page.

To relist your item, sign in to eBay, go to My eBay to your Unsold items, and select the item that was canceled -- it's highlighted with a yellow banner. Before relisting, please make any changes necessary to ensure that your revised listing is in compliance with the law and eBay policies. You might want to check your other listings for similar violations as well.

Thanks for your understanding.

Sincerely,

eBay Trust and Safety team


Why eBay may remove your listing:
[link to pages.ebay.com]

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I would love to see the KENYAN birth certificate!!

Obama has spent a million dollars hiding the Hawaii one. How much will he spend to hide the Kenyan one?
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Geez, post number 10. Don't you people know how to use a search function?
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Can I use it as toilet paper?
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