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Anonymous Coward User ID: 666617 United States 06/28/2009 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Men who consumed the most fat from animal sources had a Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64844753 percent increased risk of developing pancreatic cancer and women had a 23 percent increased risk, compared with men and women who ate the least fat, the study found. Bullshit. I'm going to fry up some pork rinds and test the theory. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 648447 United States 06/28/2009 10:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Men who consumed the most fat from animal sources had a Quoting: Phoenix 201253 percent increased risk of developing pancreatic cancer and women had a 23 percent increased risk, compared with men and women who ate the least fat, the study found. Bullshit. I'm going to fry up some pork rinds and test the theory. Fry away. It's your body to abuse or take care of. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 648447 United States 06/28/2009 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By Mayo Clinic staff Signs and symptoms of pancreatic cancer often don't occur until the disease is advanced. When signs and symptoms do appear, they may include: Upper abdominal pain that may radiate to your back Yellowing of your skin and the whites of your eyes (jaundice) Loss of appetite Weight loss Depression |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 666617 United States 06/28/2009 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Men who consumed the most fat from animal sources had a Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64844753 percent increased risk of developing pancreatic cancer and women had a 23 percent increased risk, compared with men and women who ate the least fat, the study found. Bullshit. I'm going to fry up some pork rinds and test the theory. Fry away. It's your body to abuse or take care of. Yep I enjoy eating everything my heart desires. No one lives forever. I have 8 beautiful pork steaks marinating as we speak. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 487397 United States 06/28/2009 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | oh good gawd relax Veg Nazi The problem is the over-processing of food. You think animals that eat other animals that are high in animal fat (ex. what polar bears eat) are dying of pancreatic cancer? The farther you take a food item from nature, the less beneficial it is to you. A factory farmed, caged cow fed a crap diet, medicated every day of it's life then slaughtered inhumanely and it's meat soaked in whatever the hell people are eating for Sandra Lee's marinade o' horror. Is about as far from natural as you can get. Humans are omnivores, our bodies are built to deal with almost anything. Everything in moderation. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 648447 United States 06/28/2009 10:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What Are the Symptoms of Pancreatic Cancer? Early pancreatic cancers cause few symptoms. And because signs and symptoms of most pancreatic cancer may be mistaken for less-serious digestive problems, the disease is rarely detected before it has spread to nearby tissues or distant organs through the bloodstream or lymphatic system. Symptoms that may arise, in typical order of occurrence, include: Significant weight loss accompanied by abdominal pain -- the most likely warning signs. Vague but gradually worsening abdominal pain that may decrease when leaning forward and increase when lying down. Pain is often severe at night and may radiate to the lower back. Digestive or bowel complaints such as diarrhea, constipation, gas pains, bloating, or belching. Nausea, vomiting, and loss of appetite. Jaundice, indicated by yellowish discoloration of the skin or eye whites and very dark urine. Sudden onset of diabetes. Black or bloody stool, indicating bleeding from the digestive tract. Overall weakness. Enlarged liver and gallbladder. Itching. Clay- or light-colored stools. Blood clots in the legs. Episodes of weakness, sweating, rapid heartbeat, irritability or skin flushing related to low blood sugar. Severe ulcer symptoms, such as stomach pain and watery diarrhea, which do not respond to antacids or ulcer medications. If you experience any of these symptoms longer than two weeks, call your doctor for a full physical examination. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 648447 United States 06/28/2009 10:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pancreatic Cancer Statistics: 2006 Estimates In 2006, the American Cancer Society (ACS) predicted that 33,730 Americans (17,150 men and 16,580 women) would be diagnosed with pancreatic cancer; the ACS also estimated that 32,300 American men and women would die of pancreatic cancer in 2006. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 648447 United States 06/28/2009 10:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yeah it MAY lead to pancreatic cancer. the article basically states that the guy really doesn't know what he is talking about. animal fats are still way more healthy for you than vegetable fats- THE leading cause of cardiovascular disease. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 491785I don't believe this. Please provide links. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 491785 United States 06/28/2009 10:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By Steven Reinberg Quoting: Anonymous Coward 648447HealthDay Reporter by Steven Reinberg healthday Reporter – Fri Jun 26, 11:48 pm ET FRIDAY, June 26 (HealthDay News) -- Fat from red meat and dairy products can increase your risk for pancreatic cancer, researchers from the U.S. National Cancer Institute report. Pancreatic cancer, which is usually fatal, is the fourth-leading cause of cancer deaths in the United States. Various risk factors for developing the disease have been identified, including smoking, diabetes and obesity. Some studies have also linked dietary fat to increased risk, but researchers said that data had been inconclusive. However, Rachael Z. Stolzenberg-Solomon, from the institute's cancer epidemiology and genetics division, said the new study "found an association between high fat intake and pancreatic cancer risk -- specifically, high fat from animal foods." "These findings are in line with the dietary guidelines for Americans to reduce the amount of fat they eat," she said. "Reducing fat may reduce the risk of pancreatic cancer." The report is published online June 26 in the Journal of the National Cancer Institute. The researchers collected data on more than a half-million people -- 308,736 men and 216,737 women -- who participated in the National Institutes of Health-AARP Diet and Health Study. All participants completed a 124-item food questionnaire in 1995 and 1996. During an average of six years of follow-up, 1,337 people were diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. Men who consumed the most fat from animal sources had a 53 percent increased risk of developing pancreatic cancer and women had a 23 percent increased risk, compared with men and women who ate the least fat, the study found. In addition, it found that people who ate high amounts of saturated fats had 36 percent higher rates of pancreatic cancer than did those who ate low amounts. Dr. Brian M. Wolpin, and oncologist at the Dana-Farber Cancer Institute in Boston and co-author of an accompanying journal editorial, said the study might provide clues to the disease. "We know very little about pancreatic cancer and what the causes are, and we don't do a very good job treating it," Wolpin said. He noted that in addition to the possibility of a link between pancreatic cancer and fat, there are other good reasons to limit consumption of red meat and animal fat, including an increased risk for other cancers. People who eat a lot of red meat tend to engage in other unhealthy lifestyle behaviors, Wolpin said. "Whether it's red meat or a constituent of red meat or your overall lifestyle that matters, these studies cannot tease out to a convincing extent," he said. "But it's clear that lifestyle does impact this disease." Eric J. Jacobs, strategic director of pharmacoepidemiology at the American Cancer Society, said that the study "provides important evidence that a diet high in animal fat may increase risk of one of the leading causes of cancer death." "While further confirmatory research about animal fat and pancreatic cancer is still needed, results of this study support the American Cancer Society's recommendations to limit red meat and emphasize plant foods to help reduce risk of a variety of cancers," Jacobs said. every 'researcher' in this article needs to list their dietary preference so the reader can further understand their prejudice towards consumption of meat or lack thereof. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 707522 United States 06/28/2009 10:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bullshit. For hundreds of years, farmers have feasted solely on fatty foods like red meat, milk, eggs, and butter. Fat is good for you, as long as you exercise and burn it off and do actual work like aforementioned farmers. The problem is, people eat tons of fat and don't burn any off, so they lose muscle mass and gain fat. When that happens, there is a strain on the body and heart, even during light activities. Arteries become clogged because of the lack of physical work and blood flow pumping. |
'Fed' up User ID: 254206 United States 06/28/2009 10:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yeah it MAY lead to pancreatic cancer. the article basically states that the guy really doesn't know what he is talking about. animal fats are still way more healthy for you than vegetable fats- THE leading cause of cardiovascular disease. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 648447I don't believe this. Please provide links. there has been a campaign to rid americans of red meat for years. all come from the same oligarchs that put fluoride in our drinking water and aspartame in almost all sweetened food and beverages. what they don't tell you is that animal fat is one of the best mood stabilizers a person can naturally consume. go research neurotransmitters bubba and come back. why do you think a big ole steak is so satisfying? they don't want you feeling good... they won't you hyped up with carbs and blowing your blood sugar levels off the chart. go tell steven reinberg to fk off for me... he is filthy scumbag. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 666617 United States 06/28/2009 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yeah it MAY lead to pancreatic cancer. the article basically states that the guy really doesn't know what he is talking about. animal fats are still way more healthy for you than vegetable fats- THE leading cause of cardiovascular disease. Quoting: 'Fed' up 254206I don't believe this. Please provide links. there has been a campaign to rid americans of red meat for years. all come from the same oligarchs that put fluoride in our drinking water and aspartame in almost all sweetened food and beverages. what they don't tell you is that animal fat is one of the best mood stabilizers a person can naturally consume. go research neurotransmitters bubba and come back. why do you think a big ole steak is so satisfying? they don't want you feeling good... they won't you hyped up with carbs and blowing your blood sugar levels off the chart. go tell steven reinberg to fk off for me... he is filthy scumbag. :5: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 491785 United States 06/28/2009 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yeah it MAY lead to pancreatic cancer. the article basically states that the guy really doesn't know what he is talking about. animal fats are still way more healthy for you than vegetable fats- THE leading cause of cardiovascular disease. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 648447I don't believe this. Please provide links. ok. here's a couple [link to www.bottomlinefitness.com] [link to www.douglassreport.com] |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 648447 United States 06/28/2009 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yeah it MAY lead to pancreatic cancer. the article basically states that the guy really doesn't know what he is talking about. animal fats are still way more healthy for you than vegetable fats- THE leading cause of cardiovascular disease. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 491785I don't believe this. Please provide links. ok. here's a couple [link to www.bottomlinefitness.com] [link to www.douglassreport.com] I would like to draw your attention to the underlining problems with the information presented by Dr. Douglass and the potential threats to your optimal functioning. So here we go. His website, to be found at www.douglassreport.com provides very little actual advice. Most pages go on and on providing nothing more than teasers until they end with either advising the reader to buy one of his books or subscribing to his monthly publication. Note, both are either written or edited by him and are not peer-reviewed or subjected to the necessary scientific rigor that is needed for quality control. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 491785 United States 06/28/2009 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bullshit. For hundreds of years, farmers have feasted solely on fatty foods like red meat, milk, eggs, and butter. Fat is good for you, as long as you exercise and burn it off and do actual work like aforementioned farmers. The problem is, people eat tons of fat and don't burn any off, so they lose muscle mass and gain fat. When that happens, there is a strain on the body and heart, even during light activities. Arteries become clogged because of the lack of physical work and blood flow pumping. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 707522i agree with most of your post, except for the part about people eating tons of fat and not burning it off. your body does not store fat as fat. it stores excess sugars from unburned carbs as fat. extra fat passes through your GI ad comes out in your stool. also, arteries become clogged because the arterial walls weaken due to lack of vitamin C and a sedentary lifestyle, which causes cracks to form in the inner arterial walls, which your body tries to patch with cholesterol(the body's natural band- aid). if the underlying condition does not get cured, the body keep layering on cholesterol until the arteries become clogged. its why most arterial blockages are within a few cm of the heart... these are the areas that are always under intense pressure from the expansion and contraction of your heart beating. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 666617 United States 06/28/2009 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Furthermore I also would like to note that most of the information presented is not referenced or in any other indicated way based on facts. Unfortunately, more commonly, what is stated by Dr. Douglass is information that the reader is unable to verify. It may very well be current scientific understanding or it could be a misrepresented construed to fit his arguments. We simply cannot know from the information he provides. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 648447It's absolute bullshit. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 491785 United States 06/28/2009 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yeah it MAY lead to pancreatic cancer. the article basically states that the guy really doesn't know what he is talking about. animal fats are still way more healthy for you than vegetable fats- THE leading cause of cardiovascular disease. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 648447I don't believe this. Please provide links. ok. here's a couple [link to www.bottomlinefitness.com] [link to www.douglassreport.com] I would like to draw your attention to the underlining problems with the information presented by Dr. Douglass and the potential threats to your optimal functioning. So here we go. His website, to be found at www.douglassreport.com provides very little actual advice. Most pages go on and on providing nothing more than teasers until they end with either advising the reader to buy one of his books or subscribing to his monthly publication. Note, both are either written or edited by him and are not peer-reviewed or subjected to the necessary scientific rigor that is needed for quality control. oh? and who is this (dis)information coming from? another 'medical professional'? |
Only Me Strawberry Girl User ID: 701471 United States 06/28/2009 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if it feels or tastes good Quoting: Mr. Predictorit will kill you :omfinsweet: Goodbye, halcyon days... There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory mentioned, which states that this has already happened. |