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7th July 2009 CME and Solar Storm? CROP CIRCLES
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TVZ
User ID: 578416
7/6/2009 9:59 AM | | Re: 7th July 2009 CME and Solar Storm? CROP CIRCLES | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 716317
When the video stops what is that in the lower right corner of the video??? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 417517
7/6/2009 10:26 AM | | Re: 7th July 2009 CME and Solar Storm? CROP CIRCLES | Quote |
It's 1263 days from 7/7/09 to 21/12/2012 and according to the bible some major doom takes place over the course of 1263 days.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. |
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TVZ
User ID: 578416
7/6/2009 10:47 AM | | Re: 7th July 2009 CME and Solar Storm? CROP CIRCLES | Quote |
flare just came off the sun today.
link here - again:
[ link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
When the video stops what is that in the lower right corner of the video???
Bump  |
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Mercy143
User ID: 654022
7/6/2009 3:57 PM | | Re: 7th July 2009 CME and Solar Storm? CROP CIRCLES | Quote |
flare just came off the sun today.
link here - again:
[ link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
When the video stops what is that in the lower right corner of the video???
looks like stars to me |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 719741
7/6/2009 6:09 PM | | Re: 7th July 2009 CME and Solar Storm? CROP CIRCLES | Quote |
What I don't understand is this:
If aliens wanted to warn us about a CME, why don't they write it in plain English on the crops, e.g.
"ON 7 JULY 2009 EXPECT CME"
Instead, they have to draw some complicated sextant image using ancient symbols so that it needs some top thinkers to unravel it.
(Unless these top thinkers commissioned the crop pattern in the first place). |
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phil from uk
User ID: 714862
7/7/2009 3:57 AM | | Re: 7th July 2009 CME and Solar Storm? CROP CIRCLES | Quote |
Well here we are its the 7th of the 7th and nothing has happened is happening. So i guess crop circles mean nothing and today is just another failed prediction. Oh dear well i guess its not a bad thing now is it. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 720033
7/7/2009 4:08 AM | | Re: 7th July 2009 CME and Solar Storm? CROP CIRCLES | Quote |
Please do not misquote the bible.
The day count is true but thats ASSUMING that 12/21/2012 is the mid-point of the TRIBULATION.
No one actually knows when the TRIBULATION is going to start. But what triggers it is the RAPTURE right before and the 1st seal that breaks and reveals the white rider (Anti-Christ).
So it is PURE SPECULATION that the mid-point of the tribulation is 12/21/2012. It may be later because it certainly can't be sooner can it now? heh
Wait and see and most importantly? WATCH for the time of salvation is nigh and our Lord, Jesus Christ returns to take His bride (faithful) home.
God Bless!!! |
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DrPostman  
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User ID: 51197
7/7/2009 6:15 AM
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Crop Circles Do Not Predict Solar Storm on July 7th…
Posted by Ian O'Neill in Conspiracies, Featured Articles, Space Weather
Alternative title: “Jumping to Conclusions and Bullshit”
Crop circles are amazing. They are, quite literally, works of art. And like all other known forms of art, they are constructed by people with time on their hands. No UFOs have been braiding our crops, no aliens have been playing let’s-confuse-the-stoopid-humans-with-this-cryptic-message-we-travelled-hundreds-of-light-years-to-deliver. Crop circles are made by hoaxers and enthusiasts.
So yesterday, I read a terribly fascinating, yet terribly painful article that seamlessly combines three disparate facts to arrive at a terribly flawed conclusion: a coronal mass ejection (CME) will hit us on July 7th, possibly causing global damage, according to a crop circle prediction.
This may seem a little shocking, considering this equivalent of a micro-doomsday is only two days from now, but the “Exopolotics Examiner” Dr. Michael Salla discusses it with great excitement:
The Alert is for Sunspot 1024 which suddenly appeared on July 3 and 4 [...] It typically takes CMEs, traveling at around a million miles per hour, three to four days to reach the Earth. So if Sunspot 1024 does generate CMEs towards the Earth, they would arrive right on the predicted date of July 7.
Apparently, we now have an infallible space weather prediction method. Sunspot 1024 could generate a CME directed toward Earth, therefore fulfilling the prediction that we are going to get hit by a CME in two days. Amazing right? Obviously Salla is referring to the work of a solar physicist, with a new hi-tech computer simulation, or with access to cutting-edge observational data. Wow, it looks like we have found the Holy Grail of sunspot characterization methods!
(Guess again)
Actually, the July 7th prediction is purely based on crop circles at Milk Hill, in Wiltshire, UK. How do we know these flattened fields of corn predict a CME? Actually, they don’t. Even the crop circle experts make no convincing connection with crop circles and the Sun, apart from pointing out that the patterns resemble an orrery — but even if it is an orrery, the corn has been flattened by a team of hoaxers, they could make it mean anything. (I’m still waiting for a massive Micky Mouse crop circle.)
Although I find all this highly entertaining, the thing that made me laugh the most was the point that the Milk Hill patterns were made in “3 Phases.” However, looking at the incredibly beautiful design of that thing, it’s little wonder the aliens had to build the design in shifts. After all, extraterrestrials need tea-breaks too… perhaps their little feet got tired stomping all that corn… or perhaps it was constructed by slacking crop circle hoaxers who couldn’t get it all done in one night?
My money is on the latter.
So, there is a dubious link between the crop circle and the Sun (apart from ‘it faces that way,’ directly along the tractor tracks… hmm, interesting), what could Salla be talking about? Oh that’s it! The Earth’s magnetosphere has a hole in it! Hell, dig your lead-lined bomb shelters now!
Now this is one point I’m actually a little annoyed about. Apparently Dr. Salla is also qualified in solar-terrestrial physics, as he seems to dredge up some pretty compelling science recently published by NASA. Salla says:
Importantly, scientists will be able to directly study the impacts of large amounts of solar plasma penetrating a breach in the magnetosphere first reported by NASA scientists in December 2008 [...] If the interpretations of crop circle researchers are correct, then we will shortly directly observe the impact of solar energy from CMEs passing through the magnetosphere breach. –Dr Salla (emphasis not added by me, used for dramatic effect I suspect).
Now this is good stuff, perhaps this guy is on to something. In summary:
1. The Milk Hill crop circle predicts a solar storm on July 7th (but it’s not very clear where in the corn this is printed).
2. An active sunspot has appeared at a high latitude on the solar surface (this is true, although only B Class solar flares have been detected… not in Earth-killing leagues I’m afraid).
3. This sunspot could generate an Earth-directed CME (this is true, again, but the odds are pretty damn low).
4. The CME will hit us on July 7th (read #3).
5. Now that NASA has detected a hole in our magnetosphere, deadly solar particles could penetrate our atmosphere!
In other words, Salla has strung together some dubious “signs” from a crop circle, tied it into this new sunspot, gotten all excited that it could generate some pretty feeble CMEs, somehow assumed they will be Earth-directed and then chucked in a very incorrect opinion as to what this “hole in the magnetosphere” means.
Although the magnetospheric breach is certainly an amazing discovery — made by the Time History of Events and Macroscale Interactions during Substorms (THEMIS) satellites in 2008 — I think Salla misses the point. The magnetospheric breach hasn’t just appeared, it wasn’t caused by human activity (like the hole in the ozone layer, which I think he thinks this is), it’s always been there in some way, shape or form.
NASA’s five THEMIS spacecraft have discovered a breach in Earth’s magnetic field ten times larger than anything previously thought to exist. Solar wind can flow in through the opening to “load up” the magnetosphere for powerful geomagnetic storms. But the breach itself is not the biggest surprise. Researchers are even more amazed at the strange and unexpected way it forms, overturning long-held ideas of space physics. –NASA release.
Obviously overcome with the NASA terminology “giant breach,” Salla assumes this is a new hole in the magntosphere leaving us open to the ravages of the Sun. Actually it doesn’t, it’s simply an observation of a previously unknown piece of magnetospheric dynamics. Yes, the breach is linked with solar storms and the aurora, but there’s every likelihood this phenomenon has always existed, even when the Earth’s magnetic field was battered by X-class solar flares and jumbo CME’s during the last solar maximum (are we still here? Yes, I think we are). To think we are going to even notice a make-believe low-energy CME produced by a feeble region of the Sun generating B-class solar flares is laughable.
So the physics is flawed, the prediction is totally far-fetched, and apparently you need a PhD in exopolitics to understand how crop circles come into it. It’s just a fear-mongering article that is becoming all too common on the Examiner these days.
No, this is another huge FAIL for the Examiner… where are all the Skeptical, Science and Common Sense Examiners?
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User ID: 496955
7/7/2009 6:17 AM | | Re: 7th July 2009 CME and Solar Storm? CROP CIRCLES | Quote |
Dr.Postman has hit the nail on the head. Now  |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 633924
7/7/2009 6:22 AM | | Re: 7th July 2009 CME and Solar Storm? CROP CIRCLES | Quote |
Bump! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 695049
7/7/2009 6:43 AM | | Re: 7th July 2009 CME and Solar Storm? CROP CIRCLES | Quote |
Solar flares are not dangerous unless they are x class or higher.. |
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sasha
User ID: 190758
7/7/2009 6:52 AM | | Re: 7th July 2009 CME and Solar Storm? CROP CIRCLES | Quote |
Well ST interpreted the 19 circles in the feathers to mean 19 00 hours, hence 7 pm est possible now. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 708055
7/7/2009 8:47 AM | | Re: 7th July 2009 CME and Solar Storm? CROP CIRCLES | Quote |
Well ST interpreted the 19 circles in the feathers to mean 19 00 hours, hence 7 pm est possible now. Quoting: sasha 190758
Will we see anything when it begins, Im in Ireland, what time should I start looking up? and isnt their a blood moon tonight or an eclipse??
The weather here today is quite windy dull, and rainy.
No sun at all, so far. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 673314
7/7/2009 8:50 AM | | Re: 7th July 2009 CME and Solar Storm? CROP CIRCLES | Quote |
Well ST interpreted the 19 circles in the feathers to mean 19 00 hours, hence 7 pm est possible now. Quoting: sasha 190758
I think it was 5PM UK time so thats like 11am New York |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 709897
7/7/2009 4:19 PM | | Re: 7th July 2009 CME and Solar Storm? CROP CIRCLES | Quote |
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LOLLOL
User ID: 720657
7/7/2009 10:41 PM | | Re: 7th July 2009 CME and Solar Storm? CROP CIRCLES | Quote |
Nothing happened, WOOHOO.  |
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crazy..
User ID: 687390
7/7/2009 10:46 PM | | Re: 7th July 2009 CME and Solar Storm? CROP CIRCLES | Quote |
Its cimming soon... |
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Ciska
User ID: 720832
7/8/2009 6:45 AM | | Re: 7th July 2009 CME and Solar Storm? CROP CIRCLES | Quote |
I'm just curiouse: anything happened yesterday? |
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DrPostman
Forum Moderator
User ID: 51197
7/8/2009 1:33 PM
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I'm just curiouse: anything happened yesterday? Quoting: Ciska 720832
You missed it. The Sun exploded. Billions died. Too bad
you slept through all the fun.
"I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears
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Art Deco
Cheers!
User ID: 473495
7/8/2009 1:40 PM
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I'm just curiouse: anything happened yesterday?
You missed it. The Sun exploded. Billions died. Too bad
you slept through all the fun. Quoting: DrPostman
Damn!
And I was looking forward to sharing in the carnage.
Well, I hope everyone else had a good time.
But, on the upside, the exploding sun did wonders for my tan
In ten years we'll look back on this moment, laugh nervously, and quickly change the subject. |
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