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H1N1 in Argentina - PAY DAMN ATTENTION FOOLS!

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Anonymous Coward
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6/30/2009 6:22 PM
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Further to the post I made earlier regarding reports from Argentina of emergency rooms at the point of "collapse", hospitals in different areas being overcrowded with infected, ventilators being in short supply, schools being closed, massive underreporting of infections and deaths, and illness developing at an incredibly quick rate;

NEW SYMPTOMS OF H1N1 BEING SEEN IN ARGENTINA!

"The director of the hospital Malvinas Argentinas, Graciela Bonfigli, has told C5N that patients are now in serious condition suffering from acute renal failure and hematologic disorders.

Graciela Bonfigli, director of the Hospital Malvinas Argentinas, instead aiming only to patients who have the virus AH1N1 spoke exclusively with C5N and explained that, in very serious cases, two new symptoms are presenting in patients.

The first is acute renal failure, which has to be treated with dialysis.

The second is the occurrence of hematological abnormalities, such as when blood clots form throughout the body.

Furthermore argued that if patients have no prior history, they are generally healthy adults who have a fall with pneumonia and respiratory failure."


Source:

[link to www.infobae.com]
Dread Pirate Roberts
User ID: 712460
6/30/2009 6:26 PM
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here is VIDEO of inside hospitals in Argentina. It is in english. Argentina is third behind Mexico and US in deaths

cases have doubled in last few days, esp. for severe respiratory failures. They are SWAMPED. See the vid

18 have died, 111 hospitalized, 75 on respirators.

[link to www.casttv.com]

vid is news video from UK and is 1:24

Last Edited by Dread Pirate Roberts on 6/30/2009 at 6:26 PM
From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17
Dread Pirate Roberts
User ID: 712460
6/30/2009 6:29 PM
Re: H1N1 in Argentina - PAY DAMN ATTENTION FOOLS!Quote

the hospitals in and around Buenos Aires are suspending elective surgeries, to free up beds for flu patients. Lines are up to 7 hours long in public hospitals and up to 4 hours in private ones
From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 690477 (OP)
6/30/2009 6:29 PM
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The numbers are still relatively few - compared to annual totals for other illnesses, but its the rate of spread and the clearly changing nature of this virus that is now very ominous.

We have barely seen Chapter 1, yet most people seem to think its gone away.
Nightshade
User ID: 599165
6/30/2009 6:29 PM
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The Health Minister resigned in frustration.

Argentine health minister resigns in frustration
1 day ago
BUENOS AIRES, Argentina (AP) — Argentina's health minister has resigned despite the growing swine flu epidemic, reportedly after failing to persuade the government to declare a health emergency.
Graciela Ocana also failed to persuade President Cristina Fernandez to declare an emergency over the spread of dengue fever this year, and lost battles with unions for control of social funds.
The two diseases have exposed shortcomings in Argentina's public health system. Twenty-six people have died from swine flu, the most in South America.
The president's cabinet chief refused to explain why the minister quit Monday. But La Nacion newspaper reports that she was frustrated by a lack of support from Fernandez and waited until after Sunday's elections to quit to avoid disrupting the campaigns.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 715024
6/30/2009 6:31 PM
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The Health Minister resigned in frustration.

Argentine health minister resigns in frustration
1 day ago
BUENOS AIRES, Argentina (AP) — Argentina's health minister has resigned despite the growing swine flu epidemic, reportedly after failing to persuade the government to declare a health emergency.
Graciela Ocana also failed to persuade President Cristina Fernandez to declare an emergency over the spread of dengue fever this year, and lost battles with unions for control of social funds.
The two diseases have exposed shortcomings in Argentina's public health system. Twenty-six people have died from swine flu, the most in South America.
The president's cabinet chief refused to explain why the minister quit Monday. But La Nacion newspaper reports that she was frustrated by a lack of support from Fernandez and waited until after Sunday's elections to quit to avoid disrupting the campaigns.
 Quoting: Nightshade



health minister of the city of buenos aires got the swine flu too.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 423573
6/30/2009 6:31 PM
Re: H1N1 in Argentina - PAY DAMN ATTENTION FOOLS!Quote

Attention Ho......

This is not an epidemic there (yet).....TARD
Nightshade
User ID: 599165
6/30/2009 6:33 PM
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here is VIDEO of inside hospitals in Argentina. It is in english. Argentina is third behind Mexico and US in deaths

cases have doubled in last few days, esp. for severe respiratory failures. They are SWAMPED. See the vid

18 have died, 111 hospitalized, 75 on respirators.

[link to www.casttv.com]

vid is news video from UK and is 1:24
 Quoting: Dread Pirate Roberts


Make that 26 dead.

BUENOS AIRES, June 30 (Reuters) - The mayor of Argentina's capital, Buenos Aires, declared a health emergency on Tuesday to help control an outbreak of the deadly H1N1 flu strain that has killed 26 people in the country.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 690477 (OP)
6/30/2009 6:34 PM
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Its the NEW SYMPTOMS that are most concerning. Think that yesterday we also heard that Denmark has discovered that the strain there is becoming Tamiflu resistant.


Viruses mutate - its what they do, but this one is VERY good at mutating quickly it seems.
Dread Pirate Roberts
User ID: 712460
6/30/2009 6:34 PM
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they finally declared an emergency. OP, thanks for bringing this issue in Argentina to our attention!

Swine Flu: The City of Buenos Aires declared sanitary emergency
[link to momento24.com]
Mauricio Macri, Buenos Aires city major, decreed this afternoon the sanitary emergency in the City due to the advance of swine flu.

The city major prompted the population this afternoon to “stay calm and observe hygienic preventive measures” to slow down the progression of swine flu.

He also confirmed that classes will be suspended starting Monday July 6 until August 3 and requested those with virus symptoms remain in their homes.

These measures will increase the winter holidays period at all schools, which will last four weeks. Both the Health Minister, Jorge Lemus, and the Education, Minister Mariano Narodowski, explained that this is by no means a holiday as kids should stay in their homes

Last Edited by Dread Pirate Roberts on 6/30/2009 at 6:34 PM
From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17
Lunaticus Maximus
User ID: 714857
6/30/2009 6:38 PM
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bump
For potential doom. Watch this story develop.
Dread Pirate Roberts
User ID: 712460
6/30/2009 6:39 PM
Re: H1N1 in Argentina - PAY DAMN ATTENTION FOOLS!Quote

here is VIDEO of inside hospitals in Argentina. It is in english. Argentina is third behind Mexico and US in deaths

cases have doubled in last few days, esp. for severe respiratory failures. They are SWAMPED. See the vid

18 have died, 111 hospitalized, 75 on respirators.

[link to www.casttv.com]

vid is news video from UK and is 1:24


Make that 26 dead.

BUENOS AIRES, June 30 (Reuters) - The mayor of Argentina's capital, Buenos Aires, declared a health emergency on Tuesday to help control an outbreak of the deadly H1N1 flu strain that has killed 26 people in the country.
 Quoting: Nightshade

wow! and the video I posted that said "18 had died" was only 3 days old!
From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 715007
6/30/2009 6:45 PM
Re: H1N1 in Argentina - PAY DAMN ATTENTION FOOLS!Quote

This is a good one. Keep your distance from one another when you line up to vote, or better still just stay home.
You can't be too careful.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 586183
6/30/2009 6:48 PM
Re: H1N1 in Argentina - PAY DAMN ATTENTION FOOLS!Quote

bump
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 276706
6/30/2009 6:52 PM
Re: H1N1 in Argentina - PAY DAMN ATTENTION FOOLS!Quote

OP, just a simple question.
WTF happened to Mexico.
Not a single word... Nothing, as if it never started from there.
According to you, the flu is increasing all over the world. That means 100% of all mexicans must be infected and yet they seem to be going about their daily work and none have been infected. Not a single news outlet has told us anymore about Mexico?
WHY?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 710078
6/30/2009 6:53 PM
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still waiting for sick people, but there aint anything coming........ level 6 my A¤"#!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 276706
6/30/2009 6:56 PM
Re: H1N1 in Argentina - PAY DAMN ATTENTION FOOLS!Quote

The Health Minister resigned in frustration.

Argentine health minister resigns in frustration
1 day ago
BUENOS AIRES, Argentina (AP) — Argentina's health minister has resigned despite the growing swine flu epidemic, reportedly after failing to persuade the government to declare a health emergency.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 715024

That is because the government did not fall for the crap USA was feeding the minester.
He was employed by the CIA to bring fear to Argantina and force the government in to a panic. Just like Iran, it has not worked. It worked in Mexico but other latin American nation have woken up and do not buy this crap any more.
Have you noticed no more news about Mexico?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 693418
6/30/2009 6:56 PM
Re: H1N1 in Argentina - PAY DAMN ATTENTION FOOLS!Quote

true about mexico

why no news since may?
aonomous beleaver
User ID: 603629
6/30/2009 6:56 PM
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Take a map of the world...pin each nation as to who has it and who don't.When every nation has it than it might be somthing...As I recall this was a wolrd wide epademic.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 619367
6/30/2009 6:58 PM
Re: H1N1 in Argentina - PAY DAMN ATTENTION FOOLS!Quote

OP, just a simple question.
WTF happened to Mexico.
Not a single word... Nothing, as if it never started from there.
According to you, the flu is increasing all over the world. That means 100% of all mexicans must be infected and yet they seem to be going about their daily work and none have been infected. Not a single news outlet has told us anymore about Mexico?
WHY?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 276706

thats a darn good question....objection sustained
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 712618
6/30/2009 7:03 PM
Re: H1N1 in Argentina - PAY DAMN ATTENTION FOOLS!Quote

Its the NEW SYMPTOMS that are most concerning. Think that yesterday we also heard that Denmark has discovered that the strain there is becoming Tamiflu resistant.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 690477



No wonder, Tamiflu which is just an anti-inflammatory really, has been over prescribed. So naturally it's effectiveness which eventually run its course.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 714678
6/30/2009 7:15 PM
Re: H1N1 in Argentina - PAY DAMN ATTENTION FOOLS!Quote

true about mexico

why no news since may?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 693418


maybe they're all dead? damned
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 707413
6/30/2009 7:24 PM
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Take a map of the world...pin each nation as to who has it and who don't.When every nation has it than it might be somthing...As I recall this was a wolrd wide epademic.
 Quoting: aonomous beleaver 603629


Here's a map:
[link to flutracker.rhizalabs.com]
Nightshade
User ID: 599165
6/30/2009 7:32 PM
Re: H1N1 in Argentina - PAY DAMN ATTENTION FOOLS!Quote

OP, just a simple question.
WTF happened to Mexico.
Not a single word... Nothing, as if it never started from there.
According to you, the flu is increasing all over the world. That means 100% of all mexicans must be infected and yet they seem to be going about their daily work and none have been infected. Not a single news outlet has told us anymore about Mexico?
WHY?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 276706


8279 at last update. 116 deaths.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 186317
6/30/2009 7:38 PM
Re: H1N1 in Argentina - PAY DAMN ATTENTION FOOLS!Quote

Further to the post I made earlier regarding reports from Argentina of emergency rooms at the point of "collapse", hospitals in different areas being overcrowded with infected, ventilators being in short supply, schools being closed, massive underreporting of infections and deaths, and illness developing at an incredibly quick rate;

NEW SYMPTOMS OF H1N1 BEING SEEN IN ARGENTINA!

"The director of the hospital Malvinas Argentinas, Graciela Bonfigli, has told C5N that patients are now in serious condition suffering from acute renal failure and hematologic disorders.

Graciela Bonfigli, director of the Hospital Malvinas Argentinas, instead aiming only to patients who have the virus AH1N1 spoke exclusively with C5N and explained that, in very serious cases, two new symptoms are presenting in patients.

The first is acute renal failure, which has to be treated with dialysis.

The second is the occurrence of hematological abnormalities, such as when blood clots form throughout the body.

Furthermore argued that if patients have no prior history, they are generally healthy adults who have a fall with pneumonia and respiratory failure."


Source:

[link to www.infobae.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 690477



Holy Shit.. the article mentions Kidney Failure and wierd blood clotting in the body. Is this just in the Falkland Islands, because it says Hospital Malvinas.. Down there , they call the Falkland Islands = Isles de Malvinas.

.
Mr T
User ID: 712618
6/30/2009 7:40 PM
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I pity the fool who doesn't pay attention to Argentinians swine flu.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 619969
6/30/2009 7:51 PM
Re: H1N1 in Argentina - PAY DAMN ATTENTION FOOLS!Quote

true about mexico

why no news since may?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 693418

There were three thousand unreported deaths in Mexico. The H1N1 virus broke out when the temperatures at night in Mexico City were in the Thirties. Initially they did not know what they had and were reporting it as pneumonia. Only when they realized that they were in a local epidemic did they start using the microscopes. THEN they knew it was a new virus.

That discovery was made about the same time that a kid tested positive in San Diego and two kids tested positive in Texas and then one more in Calexico/Mexicali region. All were along the border and that indicated that H1N1 was already reaching the US border. But here and in most of Mexico it was already a warm spring and people did not develop the pneumonia that readily.

It is winter in Argentina, COLD and Flu Season. We are seeing there in their initial outbreak what we will see in the US and Canada come November.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 186317
6/30/2009 7:53 PM
Re: H1N1 in Argentina - PAY DAMN ATTENTION FOOLS!Quote

true about mexico

why no news since may?

There were three thousand unreported deaths in Mexico. The H1N1 virus broke out when the temperatures at night in Mexico City were in the Thirties. Initially they did not know what they had and were reporting it as pneumonia. Only when they realized that they were in a local epidemic did they start using the microscopes. THEN they knew it was a new virus.

That discovery was made about the same time that a kid tested positive in San Diego and two kids tested positive in Texas and then one more in Calexico/Mexicali region. All were along the border and that indicated that H1N1 was already reaching the US border. But here and in most of Mexico it was already a warm spring and people did not develop the pneumonia that readily.

It is winter in Argentina, COLD and Flu Season. We are seeing there in their initial outbreak what we will see in the US and Canada come November.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 619969


I got laid off from my Job in Argentina 3 months ago. I used to fly in and out ever 6 weeks, Now I´m glad. Maybe God was lookin out for me.

. hf
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 690481
6/30/2009 8:10 PM
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I helped care for one of the early H1N1 deaths in the U.S. and have seen a number of other cases. The Medical people that I know felt this flu was a non-issue. No different that the others. My only question is/was what were they not reporting on while they chased this stupid story.

HOWEVER,

The Spanish Flu epidemic of 1918 affected the HEALTHIEST most. Equal numbers of those with very strong immune systems died as did the immuno-compromised. A "cytkine storm" was what made it so deadly and the BEST immune symptoms were more at risk of these out of control storms.

The Spanish Flu was far different than the common yearly flues in that it took on a HEMORRHAGIC FEVER like presentation. People were bleeding from their nose, coughing blood, vomiting blood and rectally bleeding. Post Mortem's showed the victims were bleeding from all their organs... brain too if I remember right.

Seizing bleeding from every orifice, out of control fevers, and really bad pneumonia. Flood the system with a lot of those kinds of patients and the Health care system, even in America, would be majorly stressed. There may not be enough ventilators, so triaging "out" the marginal cases may be required.

Something to watch.
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7/1/2009 12:36 AM
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