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the NEW minutemen...on the border

 
REAL Dave
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02/21/2005 02:02 PM
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´Minutemen´ Civilians Set to Patrol Arizona Border
By LARA JAKES JORDAN, AP

WASHINGTON (Feb. 21) - U.S. officials charged with securing Arizona´s vulnerable border from illegal immigrant crossings are bracing for what they call a potential new threat - the Minutemen.

Nearly 500 volunteers have already joined the Minuteman Project, anointing themselves civilian border patrol agents determined to stop the immigration flow that routinely, and easily, seeps past federal authorities. They plan to patrol a 40-mile stretch of the southeast Arizona state border throughout April, when the tide of immigrants crossing the U.S.-Mexico border peaks.

"I felt the only way to get something done was to do it yourself," said Jim Gilchrist, a retired accountant and decorated Vietnam War veteran who is helping recruit Minutemen across the country.

"We´ve been repeatedly accused of being people who are taking the law into our own hands," said Gilchrist, 56, of Aliso Viejo, California. "That is an outright bogus statement. We are going down there to assist law enforcement."

Officials concede the 370-mile Arizona border is the most porous stretch on the U.S.-Mexico line. Moreover, recent intelligence show that al-Qaida terrorists are likely to enter the country through the Mexico border, James Loy, the deputy secretary of the Homeland Security Department, said last week.

"Several al-Qaida leaders believe operatives can pay their way into the country through Mexico, and also believe illegal entry is more advantageous than legal entry for operational security reasons," Loy said in written testimony to the Senate Intelligence Committee.

Of the 1.1 million illegal immigrants caught by the U.S. Border Patrol last year, 52 percent crossed into the country at the Arizona border. The agency increased the number of agents in the Tucson sector, which has its largest staff, from 1,700 to 2,100 over the last 18 months.

More will be added to plug the remaining holes, said Customs and Border Protection Commissioner Robert C. Bonner. About 10,000 federal agents now patrol the 2,000-mile southern border, he said.

Officials fear the Minuteman patrols could cause more trouble than they prevent. At least some of the volunteers plan to arm themselves during the 24-hour desert patrols. Many are untrained and have little or no experience in confronting illegal border crossings.

"Any time there are firearms and you´re out in the middle of no-man´s land in difficult terrain, it´s a dangerous setting," said Bonner, whose agency is keeping a close eye on the Minutemen plans.

"There´s a danger that not just illegal migrants might get hurt, but that American citizens might get hurt in this situation," he said.

Civilian patrols are nothing new along the southern border, where crossing the international line is sometimes as easy as stepping over a few rusty strands of barbed wire. But the patrols usually have been small and informal.

The Minuteman Project, because of its scope, may attract what Glenn Spencer, president of the private American Border Patrol, described as camouflage-wearing, weapons-toting hard-liners who might get carried away with their assignments.

"How are they going to keep the nut cases out of there? They can´t control that," said Spencer, whose 40-volunteer group, based in Hereford, Arizona, has used unmanned aerial vehicles and other high-tech equipment to track and report the number of border crossings for more than two years.

Gilchrist said the Minutemen are under strict orders to merely identify and follow illegal border crossers and alert federal agents. They should not interact with the immigrants except to offer food, water or medical care. Anyone who steps outside the law will face prosecution, he said.


02-21-05 10:52 EST

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Pollyannuh  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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With bush and his desire to allow illegals in the US, the police will probably just release them anyway....
malu  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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I read that this morning over coffee, something has to happen, especially now that bush cut from the budget the funding for the 5,000 new border patrol agents that he campaigned on.
REAL Dave  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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i think there is so much more going on here than meets the eye. you have to ask WHY would the politicians allow our borders to be so porous?

There is a big agenda behind it all. I´m not certain what it is, but there will assuredly be a shift, very soon, towards the New World Order that Bush sr used to always talk about. The shift is happening now, but soon, there will be a large jump. Probably in the form of a terrorist attack(large scale) or a limited nuke war.

dave
malu  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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are you familiar with LaRaza? the race,,,,,, there are top officials in the bush cabinet that are part of this,, not good my friend
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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LaRaza!!!!!!!!!!

For the RACE everything, outside the RACE

NOTHING!!!!!!!!!
malu  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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yes that LaRaza,, we have a frickin war going on in our country right now! we are being invaded by illegal aliens by the millions! oh well, as long as bush is not concerned i guess i should not worry about it
malu  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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here is an article that describes our situation:

"When will the fighting end?" Persaeus, niece of the king of Troy asked Achilles as they sat in their tent.

"It never ends!" the Greek warrior, played by Brad Pitt replied, in last year´s hit movie, "TROY."

War wages throughout human history. Tyrants come and go. Great nations rise and fall. As was said in the movie, soldiers die with no remembrance.

Today, our soldiers die in Iraq for a country that does not want us in its land. As Achilles said 3,200 years ago about war, "It never ends."

Another kind of invasion ´never ends´ by accelerating into the United States of America today. It´s the Trojan Horse of immigration. While our soldiers give their lives in order to free a nation that smells more like the futility of Vietnam, we lose our freedom by the day via a pernicious invasion of unending humanity.

Unrestricted illegal and unending legal immigration at 4.1 million annually inundates America with a betrayal that will prove more horrific than 9/11 and equally as devastating as the vandals that overran Rome.

We possess the greatest army in the world, yet while our soldiers die 10,000 miles away, our borders buckle with enemy combatants more deliberate than "The Last Samurai." In the Washington Times, February 3, 2005, "Snipers Target U.S. Border Patrol Agents," illustrates Mexican drug smugglers blasting away at our officers.

"Douglas station agents in Arizona´s southeastern corner have been fired upon on six occasions," writes Jerry Seper for the Times. "Border patrol officers have been assaulted 80 times, nine involving shootings."

In the meantime, Mexico´s President Fox injected 55 consulates (more Trojan Horses) into our top cities which serve 9.2 illegal aliens from his country now residing in our nation. Fox, who runs one of the most mercenary governments in the Americas, implants his Third World corruption right up our nostrils. How bought off is the Bush administration by corporations pulling the strings on our president as if he was another Pinocchio? You be the judge.

Our danger is more imminent than Hector´s death by Achilles. Our King Bush stands at the gates of the White House (Troy) oblivious that the Trojan Horse is unleashed 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Our citizens are massacred by--losing their jobs, schools, medical facilities, language and communities. Diseases we had vanquished in First World America sicken us-16,000 new cases of tuberculosis, 7,000 cases of leprosy and thousands of cases of hepatitis-for starters.

Pareus, Hector´s brother, when seeing the Trojan Horse, said, "Burn it here on the beach." But their father, King of Troy, (played by Peter O´Toole) listened to his counsel who said, "Bring it into the city as a tribute to the gods." In present-day America, Karl Rove, Bush´s counsel, advises with similar arrogance.

Trojans pulled the wooden horse into the city. Greeks jumped out of its bowels in the dead of night and opened the gates. More Greeks entered.

They lit fires that burned Troy. Karl Rove will prove the man who invited the burning of America. He advises Bush that mass immigration is good and Bush vacantly takes Rove´s advice.

If you examine America today, immigration is our Trojan Horse. It´s killing our country as surely as the Greeks burned Troy. Immigration will add 250 million people to this country by mid century. It will prove our undoing if allowed further countenance in our nation.

Just as Achilles brought more of his warriors into Troy--the more we bring people from the Middle East, China, India and Mexico--the more they enclave their own. That is how Al-Qaeda thrust a sword into our World Trade Towers. Where are they planning their next attack? Be assured they are patient, very patient, and they have one prime directive, which they shall not abandon. Does anyone realize that hundreds if not thousands of Middle Eastern Muslim Mosques have popped up all over our nation-built with Saudi Arabia´s oil money? If you think they are all benign, think again.

Below us, the opportunist Mexican government sends its own illiterate masses who ´colonize´ our country in ever increasing numbers. More than 9.2 Mexicans transplanted themselves into our country. They bleed us by sending back $15 billion to their mother country annually. Illegals from South America and Asia send $40 more billion annually back to their home countries. Does that sound like loyal American immigrants? NO! They represent Trojan Horses! This does not include the billions of dollars we spend to educate their young, housing assistance or medical services provided at our cost.

How fast are they colonizing us? Mario Obledo, founding member of the Mexican-American Legal Defense and Educational Fund (MALDEF), (the most anti-American group in the US today), and former California Secretary of Health/Welfare, speaking on the Tom Leikus radio talk show said, "We´re going to take over all the political institutions in California. In five years the Hispanics are going to be the majority population of this state." Caller: "You also made the statement that California is going to become a Hispanic state and if anyone doesn´t like it they should leave - did you say that?" Obledo: "I did. They ought to go back to Europe." He belongs to a growing group of Mexicans, Reconquista Aztlan (re-conquest), that demands California, Texas, New Mexico and Arizona be brought under Mexican rule.

At this critical juncture in history, will the Hector´s, Persaeus´ and King of Troy or even our own ´King´ of the United States wake up in time to close the gates of Troy? Will we stop the Trojan Horse of immigration from entering? Will Bush´s main counsel, Karl Rove, wisely advise our vacant-eyed president before it´s too late? Will Americans wave flags for our boys in Iraq while our own country burns in chaos and becomes yet more kindling on the ash heap of history with this immigration invasion?

Will we capture Osama bin Laden (Achilles) and his band of Al-Qaeda agents before he torches us?

The people of Troy made their worst mistake by giving blind faith to their king and leaders trusting they would protect and save them. They were wrong. They died and Troy was lost.

So far, Bush can´t see what´s happening from his Temple of Apollo (White House) and his trusted advisor, Karl Rove, lacks the mental acuity of a prairie dog as to history and the current reality invading America. Our Congress stands at the portals of time as defiantly out of touch as was the Council of Troy. So what will save this country from the Trojan Horse of immigration?

You, fellow American! Not your inaction. Your action. Not your complaining. Your planning. Not going it alone. Your banding together.

Not your mumbling. Your raised voice collectively. Not your remote. Your finger on the telephone buttons. Not idle wishing. Your action on the Internet. How many of you have signed up for the www.minutemanproject.com coming April 1, 2005? Already, volunteers from 45 states will stand on the Nacho Line proudly planting their state flag along with Old Glory.

Will you be there? Without your response, this country and your children´s future are as surely lost as the residents of Troy 3,200 years ago.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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Clinton dident let them in ???blink
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wall
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Oh is Clinton still president?dumbass
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I mean doubledumbass.
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dumbassdumbassdumbass
malu  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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anybody from michigan? want to car pool? lets go! april 1
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"You, fellow American! Not your inaction. Your action. Not your complaining. Your planning. Not going it alone. Your banding together."

There are several bad things going on right now that are causing us to come together.

God, help us to save our country.
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malu  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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well? let´s frickin save it! this movement is going to get big,, just watch! could lead to a civil war, but it won´t be along states lines, it will be the citizens against the government!
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12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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things must get worse before they´ll get better. too many comfortable sheep in this country. noone has any reason to fight. a few complain. the system is rigged and set up against true patriots. it all spells doom for the old USA. could be a good thing, but whatever it is, it means big changes coming.

dave
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I am all for change, I know it is going to be a painful process, but it is inevitable, I really would not want to live within 3-400 miles of the mexican border, nor in a big city anywhere in this country, I live in the midwest, and I am staying
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12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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I sware I´m not making this up

I heard from somwhere that there´s a Israeli army around the border. New World Order??

I forgot about most of it but if anybody is interested I could retreive the information again within 3 days
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Bush is allowing all the illegals into this country because the only way to sort them out will be with the National ID. THAT is what it is all about! Get everybody to accept the ID with its biometric identifiers and ability to know exactly where you are at any point in time.

Next they will add your health records to it (It is already in the works. HIPPA) and your bloodtype and dna. THEN, they will force everybody to have dna tests. And they can begin to ´cull´ the heard to their liking.
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Speaking of blood and DNA I believe during World War 2 nazi germanys soldiers had a tatto under there left arm of there blood type.

Not so different from what´s about to happen
malu  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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israel has very intensive organization of people throughout this country, trained killers, they even admit to it, also, everyone of jewish faith will support these soldiers, giving them food , money, surgery, whatever they need, they are never arrested, only deported
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"...they are never arrested, only deported"

If and when the SHTF, they will be more than deported.
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Auction Day Cometh.
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The whole ID thing is a trick, once they get their ID, they will be used for special projects. I´d hate to be an illegal alien in this country. They will be able to do whatever they want to these people, because there won´t be really a true record of them.
malu  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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go here if you want to know what israel´s plans are for this country,, long read, two parts, worth the hassle: [link to www.vialls.com]
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Where are all the Sierra club members? The southwest deserts look like the entrance to a city dump! Piles of wrappers, water bottles, clothing , backpacks, human waste and dead poached animals abound.

Arizona: Home of the daily one vehicle rollover with 40 victims requiring medivac at taxpayer expense

protest
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How much does Mexico pay for medical expences for its million CAUGHT illegals?





Zip, nada, none

Need medical attention? Come to America. Need to have a baby (again), Come to America. Your Arizona democratic representative in congress will stand up for you.





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