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FDA panel votes to eliminate Vicodin, Percocet..time to die in pain!!!!stock up people!!!

 
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FDA panel votes to eliminate Vicodin, Percocet..time to die in pain!!!!stock up people!!!
ADELPHI, Md. - Government experts say prescription drugs like Vicodin and Percocet that combine a popular painkiller with stronger narcotics should be eliminated because of their role in deadly overdoses.

A Food and Drug Administration panel on Tuesday voted 20-17 that prescription drugs that combine acetaminophen with other painkilling ingredients should be pulled off the market.

The FDA has assembled a group of experts to vote on ways to reduce liver damage associated with acetaminophen, one of the most widely used drugs in the U.S.

Despite years of educational campaigns and other federal actions, acetaminophen remains the leading cause of liver failure in the U.S., according to the FDA.

Panelists cited FDA data indicating 60 percent of acetaminophen-related deaths are related to prescription products. Acetaminophen is also found in popular over-the-counter medications like Tylenol and Excedrin.

“We’re here because there are inadvertent overdoses with this drug that are fatal and this is the one opportunity we have to do something that will have a big impact,” said Dr. Judith Kramer of Duke University Medical Center.

Many opposed to recommendation
But many panelists opposed a sweeping withdraw of products that are so widely used to control severe, chronic pain.

“To make this shift without very clear understanding of the implications on the management of pain would be a huge mistake,” said Dr. Robert Kerns of Yale University.

In a separate vote, the panel voted overwhelmingly, 36-1, that if the drugs stay on the market they should carry a black box warning, the most serious safety label available.

The FDA is not required to follow the advice of its panels, though it usually does.
Prescription acetaminophen combination drugs were prescribed 200 million times last year, according to FDA data. Vicodin is marketed by Abbott Laboratories, while Percocet is marketed by Endo Pharmaceuticals. Both painkillers also are available in cheaper generic versions.

The FDA convened the two-day meeting to ask experts to discuss and vote on a slew of proposals to reduce overdoses with acetaminophen. The drug has been on the market for about 50 years and many patients find it easier on the stomach than ibuprofen and aspirin, which can cause ulcers.

Panel voted to lower maximum acetaminophen dose
Earlier in the day, panelists took aim at safety problems with Tylenol and dozens of other over-the-counter painkillers. In a series of votes, the panel endorsed lowering the maximum dose of those products.

FDA’s experts voted 21-16 to lower the current maximum daily dose of nonprescription acetaminophen, which is 4 grams, or eight pills of a medication like Extra Strength Tylenol.

The group was not asked to recommend an alternative maximum daily dose.

The panel also voted 24-13 to limit the maximum single dose of the drug to 650 milligrams. The current single dose of Johnson & Johnson’s Extra Strength Tylenol is 1,000 milligrams, or two tablets.

In a third vote, a majority of panelists said the 1,000-milligram dose should only be available by prescription.

However, panelists rejected a proposal to pull certain cold and cough medicines off the market because of their role in overdosing.

The drugs in question, such as Procter & Gamble’s NyQuil or Novartis’ Theraflu, combine acetaminophen with other ingredients that treat cough and runny nose.

The FDA says patients often pair the cold medications with pure acetaminophen drugs, like Tylenol, exposing themselves to unsafe levels of the drug.

But panelists cited FDA data that said the medications play a minor role in acetaminophen overdoses, with only 10 percent of acetaminophen-related deaths involving a cold and cough product.

“I don’t think we should be advocating a solution to a problem that really is not there,” said Dr. Osemwota Omoigui, of the Los Angeles pain clinic.

The panel voted 24-13 to keep the products on the market.
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Production of these drugs is eating into the amount of illegal drugs that can be made from the bumper Afghan opium crops. Its ALL ABOUT PROFITS. The otc cold meds with acetominephin WILL NOT BE PULLED. But of course they will tell you and push the 'antidepressants' for 'pain relief' even though these drugs have been associated with the vast majority of mass shootings in the USA. Order those seed pods online today so you will be able to grow your own when TSHTF. When the economic collapse hits the FIRST to suffer will be those dependent upon daily drugs financed by gubmint. A 'convenient' way to say 'go die' without saying a word!
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It just gets worse and worse.
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The problem is drug ABUSERS!

Now, normal patients will be denied decent pain relief because of the law breakers!
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Never gonna happen..2 many people in pain and its a bumper crop for the pharms.
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Relax Acy. This is in relation to acetaminophen, which is often mixed with the drugs you mentioned.

Now they'll have to provide the straight uncut dope. It's all about the mixture kid. Some dope is cut and some ain't. It's the cut they're talking about yo.


Prescription acetaminophen combination drugs were prescribed 200 million times last year, according to FDA data. Vicodin is marketed by Abbott Laboratories, while Percocet is marketed by Endo Pharmaceuticals. Both painkillers also are available in cheaper generic versions.

The FDA convened the two-day meeting to ask experts to discuss and vote on a slew of proposals to reduce overdoses with acetaminophen. The drug has been on the market for about 50 years and many patients find it easier on the stomach than ibuprofen and aspirin, which can cause ulcers.
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They can get my vicodin, when they take it from my cold slighty stoned hands.
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Relax, theres still Fentanyl, Demerol, etc., even oxycontin without acetaminophen. Plenty of good ways to manage chronic pain
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Never gonna happen..2 many people in pain and its a bumper crop for the pharms.
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Agreed. There's a whole culture around these very 2 drugs...Drs. who hook and write the prescription and the patients - including many people who would never dream of using street drugs - who become hopelessly addicted. Rush Limbaugh and my aunt being prime examples of that. Never in a million years would I have thought my aunt, who never drank and even gave up cigarettes, would end up at an NA meeting! My daughter-in-law's mother has tried to commit suicide twice because of her addiction to percocet.

I wondered for a long time how this vicious scenario has been allowed to go on and prosper while marijuana remains illegal and classed with heroin and other Class I narcotics. Sometimes our government is beyond ridiculous, hypocritical, and bottomless greed.
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Re: FDA panel votes to eliminate Vicodin, Percocet..time to die in pain!!!!stock up people!!!
It does seem hard to believe that the massive Big Pharma industry is going to suffer the loss of such hugely popular mainstays as vicodin and percocet.

Tylenol is mostly acetaminophen and is available OTC. Notice how the FDA panel did not vote to pull that. This means that anyone can still buy Tylenol, Excedrin or dozens of other OTC meds which contain acetaminophen and overdose freely with them.. still. Instead, the panel voted to "lower" the dosage levels.

That's good. So now anyone can still go out and buy Tylenol in a lower dosage and still abuse it, using the same dosage by simply taking more pills.

On the other hand, the vast majority of patients who are regularly prescribed vicodin or percocet for pain management are well aware of the need to be careful and avoid the potential damage from the acetaminophen.

But if those two drugs are pulled, then docs will have to switch all these patients over to oxycontin and hydrocodone, which are much more addictive.

That makes very little sense, because these days it is those two prescription meds which are causing by far the most problems in society due to addiction and dependency, not vicodin and percocet, which are much milder.

My guess is that the FDA will just take the safe position and simply order a black box warning label for vicodin and percocet. Otherwise, big pharma and all its millions of shareholders are going to take a huge hit. That seems doubtful, frankly.
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The problem is drug ABUSERS!

Now, normal patients will be denied decent pain relief because of the law breakers!
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so true ... makes it bad for all of us.

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