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Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 634208
7/2/2009 4:18 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 716309
Darn, why'd that thread get pulled? I was looking forward to that bit of insanity. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716720
7/2/2009 4:19 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
well whatever it is, how do you know from a flat picture it is headed for the sun? I have not read all the pages here on this thread, but the reason it doesn't show on Lasco is because it shows on Stereo Behind. Different viewpoint. It does seem "closer" that the other day. It could be a star ship you know, they are posing for the cameras a lot more lately.
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
Candance go away, leave your starships in the mag thread...Maybe you should read the thread in it's entirety before you speak |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 634208
7/2/2009 4:25 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
I wish we could find some earlier Stereo images or videos from Mercury passing by. Quoting: Ostria
Whenever the site is fully operational again, search around may 19th give or take a few days and you'll see mercury again, only closer to the camera than it is here. It will look similar to this image of mercury from stereo ahead:
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov] |
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Ostria
User ID: 716283
7/2/2009 4:38 PM
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I wish we could find some earlier Stereo images or videos from Mercury passing by.
Whenever the site is fully operational again, search around may 19th give or take a few days and you'll see mercury again, only closer to the camera than it is here. It will look similar to this image of mercury from stereo ahead:
[ link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
sshhh... mercury got hit bad that day
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
here where stereo A and B are today
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716601
7/2/2009 4:43 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 715610
the giant Mothership emitted a laser beam while approaching the Sun, which was luckily captured by the NASA stereoB satellite.
The giant UFO will reach the Sun in approx. 24 hs. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716673
7/2/2009 4:45 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Please pin again!!!!!
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 508527
7/2/2009 4:47 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
if it hits the sun in about 24 hours, i think a cme or huge solar flare would take about 3-4 days to reach the earth, so solar doom on 7/6-7/7 is still on. |
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stephen
User ID: 704343
7/2/2009 4:48 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
latest photo? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716601
7/2/2009 4:48 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Thanks for the animation Maya. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716601
7/2/2009 5:00 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
.... Do not forget that it's orbit is eliptic and therefore, that your calculations of speed cannot be based on those images.
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ah, OK. it'll accelerate a little and probably cross the picture faster... *if* it's Mercure, eh?
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Might accelerate a little bit, but I doubt we'd notice it.
The reason it's moving more slowly than I'd forecast is that the picture is a lot bigger than I thought it was. Noticed it last night. I'd thought the central black region was the Sun - in fact, the Sun is the small white circle inside that black area. It's maybe sixteen Sun-widths across, not five. So where I estimated 51 hours for five Sun-widths, it should have been more like 163 hours.
So, corrected forecast if it's Mercury: it'll take nearly a week to cross all the way from the right, pass behind the Sun and reach the left edge of the screen. Might be a little faster because STEREO is also moving, but its orbit is far slower than Mercury's and I don't think it'll make much difference.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 660262
Well in this case we agree on the time the object will take to cross the picture. I've made a (rough) average over the movements on the various pictures and obtained approx. 158 hours.
Then, I guess the movement of the object is compatible with the expected movement of Mercury. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716601
7/2/2009 5:05 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
The horrible thing is NOT that a NASA HOAX thread got 30,000+ clicks yesterday. It is that you did not get what the hoax is
Thread "Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun" got 30,000+ clicks in one day, until it finally became clear that the "unknown object" was Mercury.
Anyone who had understood the words of TRUE Prophet explaining the types of NASA Hoaxes (1) would immediately realize the hoax.
The horrible thing is NOT that a NASA HOAX thread got 30,000+ clicks yesterday. It is that you did not get what the hoax is, despite that it all was explaiend long ago.
Notes
(1) [ link to www.google.com]
the Path to the TRUTH returns it immediately:
15 Jun 2007 ... Five Basic Types of NASA Hoaxes - most were exposed first by Prophet - Latest: Skylab v ISS: toilet jokes: 30 years later - Russia Quoting: Anonymous Coward 716309
well, this *could be* some kind of psy-operation especially because the OP seems to have disappeared and he was the one leading the entire idea the the "object" is some kind of new type of comet.
WHERE ARE YOU OP!!! |
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Enlilson 
The Sons of Enlil live.
User ID: 688151
7/2/2009 5:13 PM
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The horrible thing is NOT that a NASA HOAX thread got 30,000+ clicks yesterday. It is that you did not get what the hoax is
Thread "Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun" got 30,000+ clicks in one day, until it finally became clear that the "unknown object" was Mercury.
Anyone who had understood the words of TRUE Prophet explaining the types of NASA Hoaxes (1) would immediately realize the hoax.
The horrible thing is NOT that a NASA HOAX thread got 30,000+ clicks yesterday. It is that you did not get what the hoax is, despite that it all was explaiend long ago.
Notes
(1) [ link to www.google.com]
the Path to the TRUTH returns it immediately:
15 Jun 2007 ... Five Basic Types of NASA Hoaxes - most were exposed first by Prophet - Latest: Skylab v ISS: toilet jokes: 30 years later - Russia
well, this *could be* some kind of psy-operation especially because the OP seems to have disappeared and he was the one leading the entire idea the the "object" is some kind of new type of comet.
WHERE ARE YOU OP!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 716601
Earth’s magnetosphere changes into the shape of a “jellyfish” whenever it is impacted by a severe solar storm
Whenever a severe solar storm impacts directly on Earth, then our planetary magnetic field or “magnetosphere” changes into the general shape of a “jellyfish”: see watch or watch.
That seems to be what those crop artists were telling us at Wayland’s Smithy on May 29, 2009:
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diggin the rail in setting up for another turn. |
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Ostria
User ID: 716283
7/2/2009 5:13 PM
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 703130
7/2/2009 5:16 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Well, It is Mercury then, Doom Canceled, Scared away due to posts on This site |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716601
7/2/2009 5:17 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
He 'thinks?'.....fishy.
I was caught by that wording also.
You'd think if this were purely planetary, they wouldn't "think", they'd "know". They are NASA, after all. Wouldn't they have seen this a number of times before? Quoting: Moncrieffe
You must be new here, NASA stands for "Never A Straight Answer", ("National Aeronautics and Space Administration" is just a cover name). They're part of the great disinfo scheme of the government. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716601
7/2/2009 5:40 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Holy crap!!!
I think it's really time to get answers from serious astronomers!!!
I took a look at today's piuctures and especially this one caught my attention:
> [link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
Zoom in on that object and compare it to this on:
> [link to images.google.de]
It's an image of ERIS!!!
Please somebody tell me that i'm totally wrong, this must not be true!!!
Following todays Pictures it looks like this Object is orbited by another Object...
> [ link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
This could very well be Dysnomia, the Moon which surrounds Eris?!
is Eris supposed to be *that close* to the Sun?
OTOH, the object in the various pictures from NASA shows that it may possibly have a "companion", probably a "moon" of some kind, because it shows up in more than one picture.
I believe you got an important point. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716601
7/2/2009 5:46 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
And here's the data file containing current orbital elements for both STEREO spacecraft. Save it as STEREO.ssc and copy it into /usr/share/celestia/extras, or whatever the equivalent location is on your distribution.
Oh, and I need to try to find that rosetta.3ds file. Even though it's presumably a model of Rosetta and not STEREO, it would be nice to have _something_ there where the spacecraft's supposed to be :-)
"STEREO-A" "Sol"
{
Class "spacecraft"
Mesh "rosetta.3ds"
Radius 0.005
EllipticalOrbit
{
Epoch 2455014.500000000 # = A.D. 2009-Jul-02 00:00:00.0000 (CT)
Period 344.5173389821580
SemiMajorAxis 0.9617785894270349
Eccentricity 0.0005665468759947536
Inclination 0.1254386682135602
AscendingNode 214.1413667385982
ArgOfPericenter 93.11454410996443
MeanAnomaly 26.26461890243098
}
Albedo 0.5
}
"STEREO-B" "Sol"
{
Class "spacecraft"
Mesh "rosetta.3ds"
Radius 0.005
EllipticalOrbit
{
Epoch 2455014.500000000 #= A.D. 2009-Jul-02 00:00:00.0000
Period 389.0383212939797
SemiMajorAxis 1.042947955613607
Eccentricity 0.004149066184846391
Inclination 0.2942241935533622
AscendingNode 336.4574648763053
ArgOfPericenter 146.8469651586678
MeanAnomaly 104.1503749940235
}
Albedo 0.5
} Quoting: Anonymous Coward 660262- [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
interesting information, thanks! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716601
7/2/2009 5:52 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Got an astronomy friend to confirm. What it is NOT - is Mercury. It is an unknown object, on a collision course with the sun. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 716571
can you give us more info please? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716601
7/2/2009 5:59 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
I can see the images from the list now... have you seen them? This object appears diffent in every image...
(See my post above)
Surely a planet would give a consistent image. Why the distortion?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 716571
maybe it's a comet after all as the OP was saying since the beginning. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 714414
7/2/2009 6:00 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
And here's the data file containing current orbital elements for both STEREO spacecraft. Save it as STEREO.ssc and copy it into /usr/share/celestia/extras, or whatever the equivalent location is on your distribution.
Oh, and I need to try to find that rosetta.3ds file. Even though it's presumably a model of Rosetta and not STEREO, it would be nice to have _something_ there where the spacecraft's supposed to be :-)
"STEREO-A" "Sol"
{
Class "spacecraft"
Mesh "rosetta.3ds"
Radius 0.005
EllipticalOrbit
{
Epoch 2455014.500000000 # = A.D. 2009-Jul-02 00:00:00.0000 (CT)
Period 344.5173389821580
SemiMajorAxis 0.9617785894270349
Eccentricity 0.0005665468759947536
Inclination 0.1254386682135602
AscendingNode 214.1413667385982
ArgOfPericenter 93.11454410996443
MeanAnomaly 26.26461890243098
}
Albedo 0.5
}
"STEREO-B" "Sol"
{
Class "spacecraft"
Mesh "rosetta.3ds"
Radius 0.005
EllipticalOrbit
{
Epoch 2455014.500000000 #= A.D. 2009-Jul-02 00:00:00.0000
Period 389.0383212939797
SemiMajorAxis 1.042947955613607
Eccentricity 0.004149066184846391
Inclination 0.2942241935533622
AscendingNode 336.4574648763053
ArgOfPericenter 146.8469651586678
MeanAnomaly 104.1503749940235
}
Albedo 0.5
} Quoting: Anonymous Coward 716601
Hmmmn precisely as I thought. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 423573
7/2/2009 6:03 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
if it hits the sun in about 24 hours, i think a cme or huge solar flare would take about 3-4 days to reach the earth, so solar doom on 7/6-7/7 is still on. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 508527
you really are stupid |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716809
7/2/2009 6:18 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716812
7/2/2009 6:21 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Doom is so hard to come by these days!  |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716601
7/2/2009 6:28 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
interesting, thanks. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716601
7/2/2009 6:32 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
great job Maya. Thanks!! |
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maya2012
User ID: 692639
7/2/2009 6:35 PM
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Thank you all for your hard work!
In maya2012's video the object seems to slow down a bit in the last hours but AC 716601's calculations show that the speed is constant. I wonder when it will show up in Soho's images.
Oh really I dont know, I m a bit confused lol
I wish we could find some earlier Stereo images or videos from Mercury passing by.
I used Paint Shop Pro's Animation program, so the interval of speed remains constant from pic to pic. the intervals that the pics are taken are identical to the previous day, so you're right, the object has slowed down.
it seems, as it nears the sun, it would speed up as the sun's gravity and mass would draw it in quicker...
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maya2012
User ID: 692639
7/2/2009 6:36 PM
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716601
7/2/2009 6:44 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Thank you all for your hard work!
In maya2012's video the object seems to slow down a bit in the last hours but AC 716601's calculations show that the speed is constant. I wonder when it will show up in Soho's images.
Oh really I dont know, I m a bit confused lol
I wish we could find some earlier Stereo images or videos from Mercury passing by.
Thank you Ostria for your efforts.
I wish the OP could return to give us some more info regarding his belief that the "object" belongs to a "different class of comets". |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 704343
7/2/2009 6:45 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Latest photo? |
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defender
User ID: 704343
7/2/2009 6:46 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
.... Do not forget that it's orbit is eliptic and therefore, that your calculations of speed cannot be based on those images.
........................................................
ah, OK. it'll accelerate a little and probably cross the picture faster... *if* it's Mercure, eh?
.......................................................
Might accelerate a little bit, but I doubt we'd notice it.
The reason it's moving more slowly than I'd forecast is that the picture is a lot bigger than I thought it was. Noticed it last night. I'd thought the central black region was the Sun - in fact, the Sun is the small white circle inside that black area. It's maybe sixteen Sun-widths across, not five. So where I estimated 51 hours for five Sun-widths, it should have been more like 163 hours.
So, corrected forecast if it's Mercury: it'll take nearly a week to cross all the way from the right, pass behind the Sun and reach the left edge of the screen. Might be a little faster because STEREO is also moving, but its orbit is far slower than Mercury's and I don't think it'll make much difference.
Well in this case we agree on the time the object will take to cross the picture. I've made a (rough) average over the movements on the various pictures and obtained approx. 158 hours.
Then, I guess the movement of the object is compatible with the expected movement of Mercury. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 716601
If this object is 16 times the size of the sun that only means one thing--EXTERMINATION |
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