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Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 11632
7/2/2009 9:39 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 584618
they flipped the bird |
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Normal Is Subjective
User ID: 715846
7/2/2009 9:44 PM
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Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11632
That looks familiar: [link to www.trekearth.com]
I thought I'd beat the inevitibility of death to death just a little bit. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 715743
7/2/2009 9:45 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Quoting: Normal Is Subjective
correct ! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716601
7/2/2009 9:52 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Where it IS proven that it is Mercury? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 716809
Good question.
I believe the most one can say at this point is that it "looks like it could be Mercury", all the arguments about the relative position of the satellites and supposed speed of Mercury through the pictures are essentially speculative as there is no exact proof, for example that the position of the object in comparison with Mercury's is the expected one. No one here really seems to know this.
If you look at the images, the form of the object is varying all the time, from picture to picture, and all other videos I've seen of planets in these SOHO and STEREO-AB images they pretty much keep their circular-like shape with little variation.
Also I've not seen a good argument that the transit of Mercury should be expected before July 6th, just because no one has given yet the exact position of Mercury with respect to the Sun in those images.
Then, I believe the OP was more reasonable.
While he didn't conclude too much to the point of alarming people or promoting doom, he just posted his *observation* and I believe he's now waiting to see what happens.
I mean, if the object hits the Sun or not.
Too bad the OP didn't come back. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716601
7/2/2009 9:54 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Quoting: Normal Is Subjective
good catch, it really does! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 715743
7/2/2009 9:55 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
mercury has the most unusual orbit in our solar system. einstein and newton even cant figure it out why it orbits like it does. right now the core of mercury has cooled and maybe its orbit is off? just sayin.... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 715743
7/2/2009 9:55 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
couldn't |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716601
7/2/2009 10:04 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
mercury has the most unusual orbit in our solar system. einstein and newton even cant figure it out why it orbits like it does. right now the core of mercury has cooled and maybe its orbit is off? just sayin.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 715743
I agree, Mercury's orbit has some additional precession (if I remember correctly) probably because it's too close to the Sun and it's also so small.
Well, who said that Mercury could not fall on the Sun someday?
Maybe it's orbit is also unstable and we're just seeing an incredible event happen before our (satellite's) very eyes...
the collapse of one of the planets of the solar system.
Well... I hope I'm wrong... |
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zacksavage
User ID: 716948
7/2/2009 10:11 PM
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Quoting: Anonymous Coward 715743
Z
Free your mind,...Your Ass will follow. |
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Moncrieffe
User ID: 538386
7/2/2009 10:16 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Where it IS proven that it is Mercury? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 716809
Nowhere yet. I'm the one who emailed the NASA guy, and even they only think they know what it was.
Excerpts:
From one guy:
"My guess, from the current positions of the planets is that it's Venus"
From his colleague:
"I think it looks more like Mercury in the FOV. Venus would be
further out in the field of view of COR2-B. "
These are excerpts from an email I posted a few pages back. I don't think these guys are certain either.
I plan on remaining as objective as possible. I consider that it could be either option, and frankly, we just won't know until we do. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716809
7/2/2009 10:20 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
If this is suppose to be a major event (a negative one or something unusual that will happen regarding this unknown 'object') why it is not in the media? I mean, it's a matter of a few days and it's nowhere yet in the media except a couple of threads on the internet.
Does this mean there's nothing to worry about? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 11632
7/2/2009 10:29 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
(spoof)
BREAKING NEWS:
Headline: Mercury goes into superior conjunction with the Sun!
Piece: From the point of view of the satellite Stereo-B, ... (rest of story) ...
(end)
It would be absolutely rivetting, wouldn't it? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716609
7/2/2009 10:31 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
If this is suppose to be a major event (a negative one or something unusual that will happen regarding this unknown 'object') why it is not in the media? I mean, it's a matter of a few days and it's nowhere yet in the media except a couple of threads on the internet.
Does this mean there's nothing to worry about? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 716809
There is nothing to worry about. This is a discussion of celestial objects seen on SOHO and STEREO satellite pictures. That's all it is. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716143
7/2/2009 10:31 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Where is the sterio sat in relation to the lasco sats?
It's as plain as the nose on your face on the sterio but appears nowhere on either lasco 2 or 3! |
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maya2012
User ID: 692639
7/2/2009 10:39 PM
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Theteck
User ID: 716858
7/2/2009 10:41 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
mercury so big ? common its more big than earth on what we see |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716143
7/2/2009 10:44 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
I just finished making the latest animation showing how far it's travelled in the past 24 hours:
[ link to maya12-21-2012.com]
I shrunk it down to a smaller size so it would upload quicker for those with slower computers/connections
Thanks, seems to be slow and steady! |
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Ozicell
User ID: 716143
7/2/2009 10:46 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
I just finished making the latest animation showing how far it's travelled in the past 24 hours:
[ link to maya12-21-2012.com]
I shrunk it down to a smaller size so it would upload quicker for those with slower computers/connections
Thanks, seems to be slow and steady!
BTW Maya, where are you viewing the latest images? On the sterio site I can't seem to go past July 2nd and I noticed you are already into July 3rd with your animation! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 705842
7/2/2009 10:47 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Where it IS proven that it is Mercury?
Good question.
I believe the most one can say at this point is that it "looks like it could be Mercury", all the arguments about the relative position of the satellites and supposed speed of Mercury through the pictures are essentially speculative as there is no exact proof, for example that the position of the object in comparison with Mercury's is the expected one. No one here really seems to know this.
If you look at the images, the form of the object is varying all the time, from picture to picture, and all other videos I've seen of planets in these SOHO and STEREO-AB images they pretty much keep their circular-like shape with little variation.
Also I've not seen a good argument that the transit of Mercury should be expected before July 6th, just because no one has given yet the exact position of Mercury with respect to the Sun in those images.
Then, I believe the OP was more reasonable.
While he didn't conclude too much to the point of alarming people or promoting doom, he just posted his *observation* and I believe he's now waiting to see what happens.
I mean, if the object hits the Sun or not.
Too bad the OP didn't come back. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 716601
Folks, it IS indeed Mercury.
Look at the position of the B spacecraft at:
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov] |
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Theteck
User ID: 716858
7/2/2009 10:49 PM | |
maya2012
User ID: 692639
7/2/2009 10:53 PM
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I just finished making the latest animation showing how far it's travelled in the past 24 hours:
[ link to maya12-21-2012.com]
I shrunk it down to a smaller size so it would upload quicker for those with slower computers/connections
Thanks, seems to be slow and steady!
BTW Maya, where are you viewing the latest images? On the sterio site I can't seem to go past July 2nd and I noticed you are already into July 3rd with your animation!
they're on a different page:
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
Official 2012 Countdown: Welcome to the World's Biggest Party!!!
[link to www.maya12-21-2012.com]
MySpace Page: [link to www.myspace.com]
2012 The Online Movie:
[link to www.youtube.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 705842
7/2/2009 10:58 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Exactly where Mercury should be from Stereo B's vantage point.
Thanks. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716985
7/2/2009 11:01 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
If this is suppose to be a major event (a negative one or something unusual that will happen regarding this unknown 'object') why it is not in the media? I mean, it's a matter of a few days and it's nowhere yet in the media except a couple of threads on the internet.
Does this mean there's nothing to worry about? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 716809
Yeah, if it's not in the media don't worry. NOT!
Sorry not trying to be mean...but if something bad were approaching I don't think they would tell us. History would suggest and all. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716985
7/2/2009 11:03 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
The Stereo graphic does make it look like it could be Mercury. |
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maya2012
User ID: 692639
7/2/2009 11:27 PM
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Bugeater
User ID: 648022
7/2/2009 11:43 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it's Mercury and an unknown comet and going to hit EARTH, not the sun!!!
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angelpbj
User ID: 716601
7/3/2009 12:35 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Where it IS proven that it is Mercury?
..............................................
Nowhere yet. I'm the one who emailed the NASA guy, and even they only think they know what it was.
Excerpts:
From one guy:
"My guess, from the current positions of the planets is that it's Venus"
From his colleague:
"I think it looks more like Mercury in the FOV. Venus would be
further out in the field of view of COR2-B. "
These are excerpts from an email I posted a few pages back. I don't think these guys are certain either.
I plan on remaining as objective as possible. I consider that it could be either option, and frankly, we just won't know until we do.
Quoting: Moncrieffe
Thanks Moncrieffe, a straight logic as yours is the best answer we have for those who think they call fool us.
They can't, at least not for long.
We're showing to *them* that we can look at the skies and discover by ourselves if something is Mercury or not.
Things are happening in the entire solar system right now and they won't have a single "straight" word as to what it could be, a direct answer for our questions.
Therefore we *need* to find them by ourselves.
And I believe the Sun brings the best set of clues for the coming events. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716601
7/3/2009 12:42 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
If this is suppose to be a major event (a negative one or something unusual that will happen regarding this unknown 'object') why it is not in the media? I mean, it's a matter of a few days and it's nowhere yet in the media except a couple of threads on the internet.
Does this mean there's nothing to worry about? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 716809
How much did the media talk about comet C/2009 G1 (STEREO),
[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
What the OP is saying is that the object in those pictures is an analogous celestial body that could possibly hit the Sun.
Nothing more, nothing less.
The consequences we'll see in a few days, *if* it hits the Sun,
and even so we'll probably have to draw the conclusions by ourselves because, even if it hits, the media will always say only what it's permitted to say which is usually very different from the truth. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716601
7/3/2009 12:52 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
I just finished making the latest animation showing how far it's travelled in the past 24 hours:
[ link to maya12-21-2012.com]
I shrunk it down to a smaller size so it would upload quicker for those with slower computers/connections
Thanks, seems to be slow and steady!
Yes, and "changing appearance" (I'd not say (yet) "changing form" because it could be an artifact of the observation, some kind of luminous effect) while the "usual planets" have a more stable "appearance" that changes very little during the time they transit through the satellite pictures.
Again, I could be wrong, but we're all learning here, right?:-) |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716601
7/3/2009 1:02 AM | |
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