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Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun

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maya2012
User ID: 692639
7/3/2009 8:06 AM
Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the SunQuote

this is the latest compilation of photos. check it out... the sun lets out a huge burst of energy towards the unknown object, yet the object remains unrelentlessly on path for a collision with the sun later on today.

[link to maya12-21-2012.com]

looks like a collision will be seen later on today...

Good job man. That's got to be one of the most interesting things I've seen on GLP. Any idea of the time of impact today.
 Quoting: Reece2076

thanks, bro...

based on it's current speed, I would say no longer than 10-11 hours from now, perhaps sooner. That would be around 6-7 pm this evening, EST.

Last Edited by maya2012 on 7/3/2009 at 8:06 AM
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 660262
7/3/2009 8:06 AM
Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the SunQuote

If it's behind the Sun then how come that the Sun is throwing hot plasma exactly at the approaching object seen in the animation?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 713708


Again, we've got no depth perception. That jet could have been at any angle. Maybe it was directly at the object. Maybe it was at 90 degrees to it and never came within a hundred million miles. Maybe the plasma was far in front of the object, or far behind.

Remember we're looking at a 2D representation of a 3D situation, many tens of millions of miles deep.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 436491
7/3/2009 8:06 AM
Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the SunQuote

good point
A/Astronomer
User ID: 639218
7/3/2009 8:08 AM
Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the SunQuote

Mercury followed by Venus
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 717163
7/3/2009 8:09 AM
Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the SunQuote

looks like a collision will be seen later on today...


If it's Mercury, it's something like 50 million kilometres behind the Sun. If it isn't, then it could be anywhere - in front or behind. How are you so sure it's on a collision course?

Also, remember that the blackout region isn't actually the Sun, it's the filter concealing the Sun. The actual position of the Sun is marked out by the white circle within the blackout. Once it gets there, switch to the COR1 camera to watch the final approach.


[link to maya12-21-2012.com]

If it's behind the Sun then how come that the Sun is throwing hot plasma exactly at the approaching object seen in the animation?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 713708



True, object is clearly on side of the Suns right limb,and at equators level
if it hits we may see some increase of solar winds come this way, heavy storms in about 4 to 5 days.
maya2012
User ID: 692639
7/3/2009 8:09 AM
Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the SunQuote

it should be an awesome evening for sungazing :)
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Anonymous Coward
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7/3/2009 8:11 AM
Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the SunQuote

Mercury followed by Venus
 Quoting: A/Astronomer 639218

Yes. Why won't the woo-woos listen. I'm all in favor of doom, but when something is debunked as readily as this, I move on. Yes, we have been starved of galactic doom for months, but we shouldn't hang on to this on.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 660262
7/3/2009 8:16 AM
Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the SunQuote

Anyway, remember to come back to these cameras about a week into August, when I think Venus and Mars should be coming into view, just as Mercury orbits back in from the right.

Venus should pass behind and below the Sun, and ought to be VERY bright as it does so; Mars will pass directly behind, while Mercury moves back across from left to right. Not sure if we'll see much of Mercury though; since its day side will be facing away from the camera, it won't be anywhere near as prominent.

Hopefully we'll have quite a show. I mean if we can get this many pages out of _one_ mystery object steadily approaching the Sun, imagine the fun we can have with three!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 660262
7/3/2009 8:17 AM
Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the SunQuote

just as Mercury orbits back in from the right
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 660262


Oops. Of course, it will be coming back in from the left. I should proofread these things better :-P
maya2012
User ID: 692639
7/3/2009 8:20 AM
Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the SunQuote

Yanno, the more I look at this, the more it looks like this object is coming in from an angle behind the sun and may pass the sun without impact. It also looks like the sun let out an ejection more towards the backside of the sun than to the right of it.
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7/3/2009 8:20 AM
Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the SunQuote

Super Flar
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 620815
7/3/2009 8:22 AM
Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the SunQuote

ftp://stereoftp.nascom.nasa.gov/pub/browse/2009/07/02/behind​_20090702_cor2_512.mpg
maya2012
User ID: 692639
7/3/2009 8:23 AM
Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the SunQuote

in a related story... This was a comet much larger than the object we're tracking right now, but check out the same sort of ejection that the sun gives out as the comet approaches...



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Anonymous Coward
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7/3/2009 8:24 AM
Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the SunQuote

[link to www.lewisonline.ca]
Anonymous Coward
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7/3/2009 8:31 AM
Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the SunQuote

If you take a closer look at the images maya strung together, you can tell that the object leaves a "wake" through the plasma that the sun shot near or at it.

This tells me that the object is close enough to the sun to affect the plasma streams coming from it and is not millions of miles behind or in front but directly near it....
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 660262
7/3/2009 8:35 AM
Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the SunQuote

If you take a closer look at the images maya strung together, you can tell that the object leaves a "wake" through the plasma that the sun shot near or at it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 386521


Not sure about that. Maybe. But it looks to me like the trailing end of the cloud is already divided before it reaches the object.
maya2012
User ID: 692639
7/3/2009 8:35 AM
Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the SunQuote

If you take a closer look at the images maya strung together, you can tell that the object leaves a "wake" through the plasma that the sun shot near or at it.

This tells me that the object is close enough to the sun to affect the plasma streams coming from it and is not millions of miles behind or in front but directly near it....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 386521

nice catch!

it's still hard for me to determine what angle it's coming in from. it seems if this object were coming from the backside, it would be getting larger with each recent update.
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Anonymous Coward
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7/3/2009 8:49 AM
Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the SunQuote

If you take a closer look at the images maya strung together, you can tell that the object leaves a "wake" through the plasma that the sun shot near or at it.

This tells me that the object is close enough to the sun to affect the plasma streams coming from it and is not millions of miles behind or in front but directly near it....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 386521

I noticed that too. The plasma and the object are too well aligned for this to be coincidence.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716609
7/3/2009 8:54 AM
Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the SunQuote

The interesting thing is that that Sun indeed threw some plasma at the object as if it tried to stop that thing...see links above to another forum with animated photos.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 713708


That is what I was watching for, too, and here it is, thanks to Maya's animations. As Mercury and Venus make their orbits around the sun, they do not excite plasma ejections like are seen in this video.

Maya, your work is very much appreciated. I know how to make a video of stills, but I don't know how to post them to the 'net.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 717207
7/3/2009 8:58 AM
Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the SunQuote

this is the latest compilation of photos. check it out... the sun lets out a huge burst of energy towards the unknown object, yet the object remains unrelentlessly on path for a collision with the sun later on today.

[link to maya12-21-2012.com]

looks like a collision will be seen later on today...
 Quoting: maya2012

I haven't read this entire thread so this may already have been noted but, that object sure looks as though it is in flames, as though it's on fire.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 417517
7/3/2009 9:02 AM
Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the SunQuote

cupofjoeit is just Mercury but you can believe what you want.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 711879

So why is nasa saying they have no clue wtf it is?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 660262
7/3/2009 9:05 AM
Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the SunQuote

Any sign of that CME from SOHO and STEREO-A? Might be able to get a better idea of its actual direction with multiple perspectives on it.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 417517
7/3/2009 9:05 AM
Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the SunQuote

bump and enoch could you please answer my question ?
because i need to know if i need doom insurance


this is not easy--and very draining too!

All I am being told is that this is helping our situation.

I guess that would mean NO DOOM! Cancel the policy :)
 Quoting: enoch 704343


Yeah the suns been pretty fuct for a while now may be this will give it a kick up the ass.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 713708
7/3/2009 9:06 AM
Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the SunQuote

Well...only a few hours to a collision/miss...time will tell; hope it'll be evening in Sweden so we don't have to burn alive like those on the sunny side! LOL :-)))
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 77251
7/3/2009 9:07 AM
Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the SunQuote

bump
flurgx
User ID: 717217
7/3/2009 9:08 AM
Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the SunQuote

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

also quite interesting in my pov
Jon-Ace
User ID: 519640
7/3/2009 9:11 AM
Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the SunQuote

So NASA has commented on this?


Why isn't this pinned?


[link to img12.imageshack.us]

damned

Last Edited by Jon-Ace on 7/3/2009 at 9:15 AM
IN DEBT WE TRUST
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 660262
7/3/2009 9:17 AM
Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the SunQuote

Any sign of that CME from SOHO and STEREO-A? Might be able to get a better idea of its actual direction with multiple perspectives on it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 660262


OK, I just watched the video from STEREO-A. You can see the same CME from there, firing from the left side of the Sun. Can't see anything specific on SOHO at the same time; then again, given that it seems to be moving directly between A and B, then SOHO wouldn't see it so clearly because it would be almost head-on, and so wouldn't present much transverse motion.

In other words, stuff Mercury. I think that CME's pointed more or less at Earth.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 395805
7/3/2009 9:19 AM
Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the SunQuote


It's DEFINITELY Mercury. Stereo consists of TWO spacecraft, both of which orbit the sun in what is more or less the earth's orbit, but 1 called "A" or AHEAD is ahead of the earth, and one "B" or BEHIND is behind the Earth. You'll notice that the B spacecraft is the one the object appears in.

Well, a small amount of research will show you this picture, which shows exactly where A, B, Earth, Sun, and Mercury are right now:

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Yes, from teh point of view of B, mercury is travelling from right to left, and is currently on the right side of the sun..... so, yes,

ITS MERCURY!!!!!!!!!

To prove it another way, look at this orbit simulator:

[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]

ITS MERCURY!
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Good point of view.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 417517
7/3/2009 9:20 AM
Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the SunQuote

Well...only a few hours to a collision/miss...time will tell; hope it'll be evening in Sweden so we don't have to burn alive like those on the sunny side! LOL :-)))
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 713708

I think it will take a few days for the kill shot to arrive.
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