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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 660262
7/3/2009 9:22 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
So NASA has commented on this? Quoting: Jon-Ace
The guy listed as the contact on the STEREO website answered an email asking what the object was, and said he thought it was probably Venus, but copied in some colleagues who he thought would know more. They later got back to him saying it was more likely Mercury, since Venus would be out of shot at the moment, and he forwarded their opinion on too. The emails are somewhere _way_ back in this thread.
So, not quite an official statement, but consensus among NASA contacts is that it's probably Mercury. Surprising degree of uncertainty. |
| V
User ID: 717225
7/3/2009 9:23 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Well...only a few hours to a collision/miss...time will tell; hope it'll be evening in Sweden so we don't have to burn alive like those on the sunny side! LOL :-)))
I think it will take a few days for the kill shot to arrive. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 417517
07/07/09 ? Even if you read it in the British style, it is still the same date. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 717207
7/3/2009 9:30 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
If that object is Mercury then that planet must have ignited...cause that thing has what appears to be flames flaring around it. It could be a cosmic plasma ball. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 536158
7/3/2009 9:30 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
It's DEFINITELY Mercury. Stereo consists of TWO spacecraft, both of which orbit the sun in what is more or less the earth's orbit, but 1 called "A" or AHEAD is ahead of the earth, and one "B" or BEHIND is behind the Earth. You'll notice that the B spacecraft is the one the object appears in.
Well, a small amount of research will show you this picture, which shows exactly where A, B, Earth, Sun, and Mercury are right now:
[ link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
Yes, from teh point of view of B, mercury is travelling from right to left, and is currently on the right side of the sun..... so, yes,
ITS MERCURY!!!!!!!!!
To prove it another way, look at this orbit simulator:
[ link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
ITS MERCURY!
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Good point of view.
Just checked the simulation...
The sun images are taken from the earth, so in the java sim. you have to turn everything around, so it shows the Earth in the front, the Sun in the middle and Mercury in the background, but then, Mercury moves from left to right... so it can't be it.
Can anyone else double check ?? |
| Jon-Ace
User ID: 519640
7/3/2009 9:31 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Well, a small amount of research will show you this picture, which shows exactly where A, B, Earth, Sun, and Mercury are right now:
[ link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
Positions of STEREO A and B for 29-Jun-2009 16:00 UT
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IN DEBT WE TRUST |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 703130
7/3/2009 9:33 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
It might be Mercury, in the mean time GLP in various sites arround internet, this "Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun", is gaining attention , hope is Mercury |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 423573
7/3/2009 9:34 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Well, a small amount of research will show you this picture, which shows exactly where A, B, Earth, Sun, and Mercury are right now:
[ link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
Positions of STEREO A and B for 29-Jun-2009 16:00 UT
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 536158
7/3/2009 9:36 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
It's DEFINITELY Mercury. Stereo consists of TWO spacecraft, both of which orbit the sun in what is more or less the earth's orbit, but 1 called "A" or AHEAD is ahead of the earth, and one "B" or BEHIND is behind the Earth. You'll notice that the B spacecraft is the one the object appears in.
Well, a small amount of research will show you this picture, which shows exactly where A, B, Earth, Sun, and Mercury are right now:
[ link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
Yes, from teh point of view of B, mercury is travelling from right to left, and is currently on the right side of the sun..... so, yes,
ITS MERCURY!!!!!!!!!
To prove it another way, look at this orbit simulator:
[ link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
ITS MERCURY!
[/quot
Good point of view.
Just checked the simulation...
The sun images are taken from the earth, so in the java sim. you have to turn everything around, so it shows the Earth in the front, the Sun in the middle and Mercury in the background, but then, Mercury moves from left to right... so it can't be it.
Can anyone else double check ??
You're right, my mistake... got the wrong dates. I'm convinced now. It's definetly Mercury. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 660262
7/3/2009 9:37 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
The sun images are taken from the earth Quoting: Anonymous Coward 536158
Actually, no, they're not. The images we're looking at are taken from STEREO-B, which orbits about 45 degrees behind the Earth. |
| Jon-Ace
User ID: 519640
7/3/2009 9:42 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
So NASA has commented on this?
The guy listed as the contact on the STEREO website answered an email asking what the object was, and said he thought it was probably Venus, but copied in some colleagues who he thought would know more. They later got back to him saying it was more likely Mercury, since Venus would be out of shot at the moment, and he forwarded their opinion on too. The emails are somewhere _way_ back in this thread.
So, not quite an official statement, but consensus among NASA contacts is that it's probably Mercury. Surprising degree of uncertainty. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 660262
Thanks for the info.
I guess it'll be a watch-in-wait situation.
It'll probably end in anti-doom.
IN DEBT WE TRUST |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 700623
7/3/2009 9:42 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Stock Market went horrible.
North Korea poised to conduct either an ICBM test or nuclear test, or both. 8am - July 4th Pyongyang time would be around 6pm tonight in the US. If it's an ICBM and moves towards Hawaii then what happens if the military tries or does bring it down?
Now what do you think the MSM would cover? An unheard-of, unspoken solar impact, or a North Korean test and possible incident.
If a "war" broke out then the country's leaders would certainly be ushered out to "secure" locations.. deep underground.
If a solar impact occurred then when would Earth take thr brunt of its effects? Approximately 2-3 days later.. around July 7th?
Now, even though it's a funny coincidence, all you movie monsters know that Tuesday is DVD release day. Oddly enough, this Tuesday, July 7th the movie Knowing is released on DVD. Knowing was a movie about what again? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 703130
7/3/2009 9:43 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
I want to thank Mercury for this 2 days of imaginary impending doom, It has been fun but now it is over, Have a great holiday weekend ! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716609
7/3/2009 9:45 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
So NASA has commented on this?
The guy listed as the contact on the STEREO website answered an email asking what the object was, and said he thought it was probably Venus, but copied in some colleagues who he thought would know more. They later got back to him saying it was more likely Mercury, since Venus would be out of shot at the moment, and he forwarded their opinion on too. The emails are somewhere _way_ back in this thread.
So, not quite an official statement, but consensus among NASA contacts is that it's probably Mercury. Surprising degree of uncertainty.
Thanks for the info.
I guess it'll be a watch-in-wait situation.
It'll probably end in anti-doom. Quoting: Jon-Ace
Nonetheless, fun to watch...especially with a few thousand friends who also like to watch the skies. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 550600
7/3/2009 9:46 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
I want to thank Mercury for this 2 days of imaginary impending doom, It has been fun but now it is over, Have a great holiday weekend ! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 703130
don,t get me wrong, i know we are in big doom. but you are probably exactly right. mercury or the super entity that controls mercury just having a little fun. |
| Dustwing
User ID: 462458
7/3/2009 9:49 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
What if all turned out to be a matter of fearmongering due to lots of fear on Earth? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 717207
7/3/2009 9:55 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
I wasn't afraid. I am fascinated. Even if that were not Mercury and it slammed into the Sun it wouldn't necessarily mean the end of the world. It could just result in a spectacular sky show right in time for the 4th of July. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 350269
7/3/2009 10:00 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
This has been debunked...Stereo B, from its vantage point, has Mercury in its view.
The object is Mercury from Stereo B vantage point.
Stereo A and B are not at Earth.
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 717241
7/3/2009 10:03 AM | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716521
7/3/2009 10:09 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
The horrible thing is NOT that a NASA HOAX thread got 30,000+ clicks yesterday. It is that you did not get what the hoax is
Thread "Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun" got 30,000+ clicks in one day, until it finally became clear that the "unknown object" was Mercury.
Anyone who had understood the words of TRUE Prophet explaining the types of NASA Hoaxes (1) would immediately realize the hoax.
The horrible thing is NOT that a NASA HOAX thread got 30,000+ clicks yesterday. It is that you did not get what the hoax is, despite that it all was explaiend long ago.
Notes
(1) [ link to www.google.com]
the Path to the TRUTH returns it immediately:
15 Jun 2007 ... Five Basic Types of NASA Hoaxes - most were exposed first by Prophet - Latest: Skylab v ISS: toilet jokes: 30 years later - Russia Quoting: Anonymous Coward 716309 |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 423573
7/3/2009 10:14 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
I want to thank Mercury for this 2 days of imaginary impending doom, It has been fun but now it is over, Have a great holiday weekend ! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 703130
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| Ponzi
User ID: 577550
7/3/2009 10:19 AM
 | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
You would think if it was Mercury it would be a ho hum event like looking out and seeing the moon.
Land of the Fee, Home of the Slave
..but I'm still right here, giving blood, keeping faith, and I'm still right here.
Even if you lock me up & throw away the key, my face can still breakout! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716143
7/3/2009 10:23 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
This has been debunked...Stereo B, from its vantage point, has Mercury in its view.
The object is Mercury from Stereo B vantage point.
Stereo A and B are not at Earth.
[ link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
I have also looked at the orbital diagrams of Mercury as seen by Sterio B (Behind) and although it's in aproximately the right position, it would be actually travelling away from the camera, getting fainter and not be anywhere NEAR the size it appears to be!
I guess we'll know for sure soon enough. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 496282
7/3/2009 10:25 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
This has been debunked...Stereo B, from its vantage point, has Mercury in its view.
The object is Mercury from Stereo B vantage point.
Stereo A and B are not at Earth.
[ link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
I have also looked at the orbital diagrams of Mercury as seen by Sterio B (Behind) and although it's in aproximately the right position, it would be actually travelling away from the camera, getting fainter and not be anywhere NEAR the size it appears to be!
I guess we'll know for sure soon enough.
I concur on this observation - no way should that vantage point give the illusion of Mercury headed towards the sun ..... guess we all will know one way or the other soon enough ! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 660262
7/3/2009 10:33 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
although it's in aproximately the right position, it would be actually travelling away from the camera, getting fainter and not be anywhere NEAR the size it appears to be! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 716143
It's moving away from the camera, but not much; most of its motion is right-to-left as it orbits counter-clockwise. Consistent with its observed path.
The apparent size is misleading. Remember this is a camera designed for studying the very faint light from coronal mass ejections - like that plasma surge observed this morning. On that scale, Mercury is a very, very bright object. It dazzles the detector, and overspills onto pixels where by rights it shouldn't be; this is why we have the flickering effect which makes Mercury appear to change shape.
This overspill effect is also why there's a sun-shade blacking out the centre of the image. If that weren't there, the Sun would be visible in shot - and given such a sensitive camera, the entire image would be whited out. |
| Family Guy
User ID: 715091
7/3/2009 10:35 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
The end is nigh!!! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 705842
7/3/2009 10:39 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
You would think if it was Mercury it would be a ho hum event like looking out and seeing the moon. Quoting: Ponzi
It IS a ho-hum event. It's just the idiots that don't know what they are looking at that stir up all this foolishness. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 717271
7/3/2009 10:39 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
This has been debunked...Stereo B, from its vantage point, has Mercury in its view.
The object is Mercury from Stereo B vantage point.
Stereo A and B are not at Earth.
[ link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
I have also looked at the orbital diagrams of Mercury as seen by Sterio B (Behind) and although it's in aproximately the right position, it would be actually travelling away from the camera, getting fainter and not be anywhere NEAR the size it appears to be!
I guess we'll know for sure soon enough.
I concur on this observation - no way should that vantage point give the illusion of Mercury headed towards the sun ..... guess we all will know one way or the other soon enough !
For that large ball of light to be Mercury (I hope that is) the camera locations would have to be as close to Mercury as the Moon is to Earth or similar. That thing just seems too large. Until NASA proves it is Mercury somehow, we do not know what the hell that is. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716143
7/3/2009 10:41 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
although it's in aproximately the right position, it would be actually travelling away from the camera, getting fainter and not be anywhere NEAR the size it appears to be!
It's moving away from the camera, but not much; most of its motion is right-to-left as it orbits counter-clockwise. Consistent with its observed path.
The apparent size is misleading. Remember this is a camera designed for studying the very faint light from coronal mass ejections - like that plasma surge observed this morning. On that scale, Mercury is a very, very bright object. It dazzles the detector, and overspills onto pixels where by rights it shouldn't be; this is why we have the flickering effect which makes Mercury appear to change shape.
This overspill effect is also why there's a sun-shade blacking out the centre of the image. If that weren't there, the Sun would be visible in shot - and given such a sensitive camera, the entire image would be whited out. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 660262
Ok, now that sounds logical! So if this is correct, then we should see it appear soon in the in the ahead camera, right? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 679365
7/3/2009 10:43 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Mercury has never and will never move directly towards the sun like that. This thing is either trapped in a gravitational pull of some kind or is generating its own gravitational energy. Either way, its going to have a massive affect on the Sun (and Earth). |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 715777
7/3/2009 10:50 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
i got to mention this lucid dream i had maybe 6-7 yrs ago..it all happened so quick. i was outside staring at what seemed the moon, there was somebody next to me but cannot recollect who it was,anyway i remember saying to myself " the moon seems very large today " and as i said that another object came into view which was the same shape and size as the moon right next to the moon and it zoomed in towards me within a split second then i awoke..i never forgot that dream vivid as though it was an event.. not trying to scaremonger just passing on what maybe a future event or a previous life experience.. i dont know ..also i remember being in an underground facility in another dream around 30 yrs ago trying to escape to normality . i remember there were guards at every corner of the roads with suits and masks, i tried to climb out over the gate , but i could only view the chimneys and partial buildings. i remember my parents being in the facility ,and i cried for them to be released but to no avail.Just dreams i guess |
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