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Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 688092
7/3/2009 10:56 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
I have a Physics degree. And let me tell all those who think this is Mercury are completely out of their minds.
First of all, this object is huge; and seems to be the size of Earth if not larger.
Secondly, if you see the "animation" of this moving towards the sun, you would realize that this object has so far been moving with constant velocity. If it was Mercury it should have immediately changed speed (observable difference) as soon as it moved "around" the Sun. In fact, even if you calculate the speed of this object and estimate the time it would take to move to the other extreme of the orbit (that is on the left of the Sun), you would realize that this object is moving much faster and doesn't seem to correlate with the Time Period of Mercury's revolution around the Sun.
Thirdly, if you observe the object closely you would see its luminosity being erratic and it has a kind of "aura" (of light) around it that constantly keeps on change around it. This can't be Mercury.
This can't be a Planet. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716143
7/3/2009 10:57 AM | |
Luminous 
~Waiting~
User ID: 296954
7/3/2009 10:58 AM
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I have a Physics degree. And let me tell all those who think this is Mercury are completely out of their minds.
First of all, this object is huge; and seems to be the size of Earth if not larger.
Secondly, if you see the "animation" of this moving towards the sun, you would realize that this object has so far been moving with constant velocity. If it was Mercury it should have immediately changed speed (observable difference) as soon as it moved "around" the Sun. In fact, even if you calculate the speed of this object and estimate the time it would take to move to the other extreme of the orbit (that is on the left of the Sun), you would realize that this object is moving much faster and doesn't seem to correlate with the Time Period of Mercury's revolution around the Sun.
Thirdly, if you observe the object closely you would see its luminosity being erratic and it has a kind of "aura" (of light) around it that constantly keeps on change around it. This can't be Mercury.
This can't be a Planet. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 688092
Thank you, kind sir.
"There are two kinds of light--the glow that illuminates, and the glare that obscures." ~ James Thurber
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“Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." ~ Winston Churchill |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716907
7/3/2009 10:59 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
i got to mention this lucid dream i had maybe 6-7 yrs ago..it all happened so quick. i was outside staring at what seemed the moon, there was somebody next to me but cannot recollect who it was,anyway i remember saying to myself " the moon seems very large today " and as i said that another object came into view which was the same shape and size as the moon right next to the moon and it zoomed in towards me within a split second then i awoke..i never forgot that dream vivid as though it was an event.. not trying to scaremonger just passing on what maybe a future event or a previous life experience.. i dont know ..also i remember being in an underground facility in another dream around 30 yrs ago trying to escape to normality . i remember there were guards at every corner of the roads with suits and masks, i tried to climb out over the gate , but i could only view the chimneys and partial buildings. i remember my parents being in the facility ,and i cried for them to be released but to no avail.Just dreams i guess Quoting: Anonymous Coward 715777
You just FREAKED me out...I had a very similar dream lastnight, woke up and told my husband, and now we just read your recollection.....FREAKY! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 536158
7/3/2009 11:00 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Just playing around with the simulator and March the 20th Mercury was in a similar position it is now. If anyone can find the Stereo-B images from that date you can double check whether is Mercury or something else. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 705842
7/3/2009 11:02 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
I have a Physics degree. And let me tell all those who think this is Mercury are completely out of their minds.
First of all, this object is huge; and seems to be the size of Earth if not larger.
Secondly, if you see the "animation" of this moving towards the sun, you would realize that this object has so far been moving with constant velocity. If it was Mercury it should have immediately changed speed (observable difference) as soon as it moved "around" the Sun. In fact, even if you calculate the speed of this object and estimate the time it would take to move to the other extreme of the orbit (that is on the left of the Sun), you would realize that this object is moving much faster and doesn't seem to correlate with the Time Period of Mercury's revolution around the Sun.
Thirdly, if you observe the object closely you would see its luminosity being erratic and it has a kind of "aura" (of light) around it that constantly keeps on change around it. This can't be Mercury.
This can't be a Planet. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 688092
Then why is it in EXACTLY the right position to be Mercury? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 705842
7/3/2009 11:04 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
although it's in aproximately the right position, it would be actually travelling away from the camera, getting fainter and not be anywhere NEAR the size it appears to be!
It's moving away from the camera, but not much; most of its motion is right-to-left as it orbits counter-clockwise. Consistent with its observed path.
The apparent size is misleading. Remember this is a camera designed for studying the very faint light from coronal mass ejections - like that plasma surge observed this morning. On that scale, Mercury is a very, very bright object. It dazzles the detector, and overspills onto pixels where by rights it shouldn't be; this is why we have the flickering effect which makes Mercury appear to change shape.
This overspill effect is also why there's a sun-shade blacking out the centre of the image. If that weren't there, the Sun would be visible in shot - and given such a sensitive camera, the entire image would be whited out.
Ok, now that sounds logical! So if this is correct, then we should see it appear soon in the in the ahead camera, right? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 716143
Once Mercury passes the sun, then yes, it should appear in the A camera. |
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noKnothing~
User ID: 631297
7/3/2009 11:05 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
i got to mention this lucid dream i had maybe 6-7 yrs ago..it all happened so quick. i was outside staring at what seemed the moon, there was somebody next to me but cannot recollect who it was,anyway i remember saying to myself " the moon seems very large today " and as i said that another object came into view which was the same shape and size as the moon right next to the moon and it zoomed in towards me within a split second then i awoke..i never forgot that dream vivid as though it was an event.. not trying to scaremonger just passing on what maybe a future event or a previous life experience.. i dont know ..also i remember being in an underground facility in another dream around 30 yrs ago trying to escape to normality . i remember there were guards at every corner of the roads with suits and masks, i tried to climb out over the gate , but i could only view the chimneys and partial buildings. i remember my parents being in the facility ,and i cried for them to be released but to no avail.Just dreams i guess
You just FREAKED me out...I had a very similar dream lastnight, woke up and told my husband, and now we just read your recollection.....FREAKY! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 716907
Insane, I had 2 lucid dreams last night that were both super intense, one I realized I was dreaming and sat there told myself to wake up and fall back into the same dream, I did it...easily, the other dream I can not remember but when I woke up I felt completely re-energized, I had 2 hours of sleep last night.. As well I awoke to my facebook today to have 3 friends leave me messages about their CRAZY dreams and how I was in it. Strangely I have the knowledge about CME/Crazy dream correlation and have told them about it and told them to look it up. Something is coming.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 704343
7/3/2009 11:06 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
I have 2 degrees. One in Information Systems and another in Business and I say that according to everything I have studied over the years I can safely conclude that I have no freggin idea what this is. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716143
7/3/2009 11:07 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Just playing around with the simulator and March the 20th Mercury was in a similar position it is now. If anyone can find the Stereo-B images from that date you can double check whether is Mercury or something else. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 536158
Ok, that does me, I am convinced now, going to bed...........
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 717207
7/3/2009 11:09 AM | |
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 705842
7/3/2009 11:11 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Just playing around with the simulator and March the 20th Mercury was in a similar position it is now. If anyone can find the Stereo-B images from that date you can double check whether is Mercury or something else.
Ok, that does me, I am convinced now, going to bed...........
[ link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
BINGO. It's definitely Mercury. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 660262
7/3/2009 11:13 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Ok, now that sounds logical! So if this is correct, then we should see it appear soon in the in the ahead camera, right? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 716143
Watch SOHO first, then Ahead afterwards.
At the moment, Mercury is opposite Behind. As it circles the Sun, soon it will find itself opposite Earth and SOHO, and after than it will come opposite Ahead.
Running the forecast in Celestia, it looks like it won't be so perfect an alignment for SOHO and Ahead. Mercury will seem to pass above the Sun. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 705842
7/3/2009 11:14 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Just playing around with the simulator and March the 20th Mercury was in a similar position it is now. If anyone can find the Stereo-B images from that date you can double check whether is Mercury or something else.
Ok, that does me, I am convinced now, going to bed...........
[ link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
BINGO. It's definitely Mercury.
Now, aren't you idiots ashamed of yourselves? |
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V
User ID: 717225
7/3/2009 11:16 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
I have a Physics degree. And let me tell all those who think this is Mercury are completely out of their minds.
First of all, this object is huge; and seems to be the size of Earth if not larger.
Secondly, if you see the "animation" of this moving towards the sun, you would realize that this object has so far been moving with constant velocity. If it was Mercury it should have immediately changed speed (observable difference) as soon as it moved "around" the Sun. In fact, even if you calculate the speed of this object and estimate the time it would take to move to the other extreme of the orbit (that is on the left of the Sun), you would realize that this object is moving much faster and doesn't seem to correlate with the Time Period of Mercury's revolution around the Sun.
Thirdly, if you observe the object closely you would see its luminosity being erratic and it has a kind of "aura" (of light) around it that constantly keeps on change around it. This can't be Mercury.
This can't be a Planet. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 688092
Good to see an educated person standing on the throats of the stinking debunkers. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 636628
7/3/2009 11:16 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
The coment on the magnetosphere looking like horns, this is what it looks like just before increased activity. I predict here in a couple of hours we will see some red in that picture |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 673314
7/3/2009 11:18 AM | |
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 705842
7/3/2009 11:20 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Good to see an educated person standing on the throats of the stinking debunkers. Quoting: V 717225
Not being one yourself, how would you know an educated person if you saw one? |
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Perseus -]+[-
User ID: 691183
7/3/2009 11:22 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
No its not Mercury..
Mercury is still far from sun and we expect to see him on soho the next days
The object on stereo its supposed behind the sun
so we cant see it from earth
But looking from earth at mercury, mercury will come
at objects position at 13-14 of july
So the object is NOT Mercury because they have 10 days
difference in their positions
The object is 10 days front |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 659821
7/3/2009 11:26 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
I have a Physics degree. And let me tell all those who think this is Mercury are completely out of their minds.
First of all, this object is huge; and seems to be the size of Earth if not larger.
Secondly, if you see the "animation" of this moving towards the sun, you would realize that this object has so far been moving with constant velocity. If it was Mercury it should have immediately changed speed (observable difference) as soon as it moved "around" the Sun. In fact, even if you calculate the speed of this object and estimate the time it would take to move to the other extreme of the orbit (that is on the left of the Sun), you would realize that this object is moving much faster and doesn't seem to correlate with the Time Period of Mercury's revolution around the Sun.
Thirdly, if you observe the object closely you would see its luminosity being erratic and it has a kind of "aura" (of light) around it that constantly keeps on change around it. This can't be Mercury.
This can't be a Planet. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 688092
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 688092
7/3/2009 11:28 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
If this object picks up speed soon, then be sure its not Mercury. A normal object towards the Sun would accelerate because of the gravitational pull.
However, same can be said of Mercury - that it should pick up speed - but that wouldn't be ascribed to gravitational pull, but rather to the nature of the elliptical orbit when seen in 2d. BUT, the surface area of Mercury's orbit around Sun is not coplanar with that of the Earth around the Sun!
This means that its more likely to be NOT Mercury!
In any case, if this object finally collides with the Sun, the after effects would only be felt on Earth after a few days. So, till then enjoy folks! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 660262
7/3/2009 11:28 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Now, aren't you idiots ashamed of yourselves? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 705842
Nonsense. I've seen few idiots in this thread. We've had 35 pages of rational investigation and reasonable scientific discussion over a legitimate question of what this object might be, and on the whole we've managed to steer admirably well clear of lunacy. We've even managed to keep it civil in tone and not get into flamewars. In a thread that's run for days, and to this length?
I'd say this sort of thing should be encouraged. It's been a valuable intellectual exercise for us all. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 673314
7/3/2009 11:31 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 673314
does anyone know what those white dots are that appear on disappear around the base of the sun? |
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Old Timer
User ID: 300370
7/3/2009 11:35 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
it can't be Mercury because some 'tard claiming to be from JPL said several years ago on this site that Mercury "disappeared" and all were in panic...heehee
Some people actually fell for that.
Anyways..this is interesting and can only wait & see for the 100% truth |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 717207
7/3/2009 11:35 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
+[- 691183]
No its not Mercury..
Mercury is still far from sun and we expect to see him on soho the next days
The object on stereo its supposed behind the sun
so we cant see it from earth Quoting: Perseus -
If that object that's moving toward the sun is on the opposite side of the sun from the earth, then that means that if it passes through the sun it will be heading toward us. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 659821
7/3/2009 11:39 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
+[- 691183]
No its not Mercury..
Mercury is still far from sun and we expect to see him on soho the next days
The object on stereo its supposed behind the sun
so we cant see it from earth
If that object that's moving toward the sun is on the opposite side of the sun from the earth, then that means that if it passes through the sun it will be heading toward us. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 717207
Um, physics guy...can you confirm that? ^^^
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 705842
7/3/2009 11:42 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Now, aren't you idiots ashamed of yourselves?
Nonsense. I've seen few idiots in this thread. We've had 35 pages of rational investigation and reasonable scientific discussion over a legitimate question of what this object might be, and on the whole we've managed to steer admirably well clear of lunacy. We've even managed to keep it civil in tone and not get into flamewars. In a thread that's run for days, and to this length?
I'd say this sort of thing should be encouraged. It's been a valuable intellectual exercise for us all. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 660262
The look at the fucking diagrams and pull your heads out of your asses! It's Mercury. Can you show me how it is NOT when the diamgram shows it plain as day that it is? Plus, back in March, Mercury should have been in the same location relative to the B craft...and guess what...it WAS! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 619226
7/3/2009 11:46 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Could be a comet |
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friend after pick ur date
User ID: 711576
7/3/2009 11:48 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
will someone ever stop profate yourway\'s summonings
and i have several degrees too |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 713759
7/3/2009 11:52 AM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Just playing around with the simulator and March the 20th Mercury was in a similar position it is now. If anyone can find the Stereo-B images from that date you can double check whether is Mercury or something else.
Ok, that does me, I am convinced now, going to bed...........
[ link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
back then the object far more consistent in shape no?
it s weird the sensors are not reacting in the same way this time... |
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