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Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun
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bbb
User ID: 505305
 United States
7/1/2009 3:52 PM
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Nooby question here
How does this brown dwarf Hellion come to be travelling at 195,357.21 MPH in the first place?
wouldent this be faster than the speed of light? ._.
speed of light is 300,000KPS (kilometers per second)
Simply, yes, it would be faster than the traditional speed of light. You will have to do a little Google to pick up on the new speed-of-light theories and information - yes, from scientists.
Speed of light is 186,248 Miles per second. How the hell do
you get that 195,357.21 Miles per hour is faster ?
There is no object approaching the Sun travelling faster than the speed of light.
hope that clarifies it a little bit
Well no shit sherlock holmes.
It does not help me wrap my mind around the fact that
someone believed that 195,000 MPH was faster than 300,000 KPS. WOW |
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AnTiSoShAL
User ID: 420394
United States
7/1/2009 3:52 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
I would just like to point out that the majority of the posters have utterly ignored the post illustrating that because of the nature of the cameras that are detecting this compared to the cameras that aren't, the object is not only NOT necessarily heading for the sun, but is in fact between the behind camera and earth, and thusly could be almost ANY size, moving at almost any velocity and in almost any possible direction within and entire 180 degree arc.
In other words the ONLY useful information so far is that SOMETHING of unknown and extremely variable size is visible from one vantage point, moving in an unknown vector that could be in almost any direction in a 180 degree arc.
The conclusion that large planet size object is moving very quickly into the sun is as valid as seeing a Buick and concluding that Cory Feldman is driving a Buick to Michael Jackson's funeral, hes speeding and going to crash into Neverland. |
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Pharmacist 
User ID: 715735
United States
7/1/2009 3:52 PM
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pulled out them good ole star chart program.... Opened it up...looked T the sun... Low and behold what did I see... It was amazing... Mecury directly to the right in close proximity to the sun! Wow! |
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tvtech3
User ID: 697708
United States
7/1/2009 3:54 PM
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We are all an ATOM/ADAM OF GOD. All different, all the same. Adam was made in God's image totally. BECAUSE WE ARE LITERALY AN ATOM OF GOD. IT IS ALL IN THE HIDDEN WORDING HIDDEN FROM US UNTIL THE RIGHT TIME/ Quoting: Angel Helper
Uh and EVE was EVE entually made as ATOMS helper eh? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 688092
 India
7/1/2009 3:55 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
This object is actually heading towards Earth. Look closely. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 713759
 France
7/1/2009 3:56 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
it s too big to be mercury
anyway, without depth information we can't say much about that |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 660262
 United Kingdom
7/1/2009 3:57 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
YOU will "let me correct" myself???? YOU didn't bother with a simple Google???? Who are frak are you? No one. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 714917
Hmm. I'm not quite sure what the appropriate response here would be, but I think it's something along the lines of:
"lol. lrn2 difference between phase and group velocity b4 u copypasta." |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 660262
United Kingdom
7/1/2009 4:01 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
it s too big to be mercury
anyway, without depth information we can't say much about that Quoting: Anonymous Coward 713759
It's hard to gauge size here. Mercury in its current position would be a very bright object, and so it would saturate neighbouring pixels as well. Sort of a dazzle effect.
Take a look at the plan here:
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
That gives the current positions of STEREO A and B, Earth, Venus, Mercury and the Sun. The planets are orbiting counter-clockwise, so from the persepective of STEREO B, Mercury is behind the Sun and a little to the right, and moving quickly to the left. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 715743
 Canada
7/1/2009 4:02 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
this is it folks. fasten your seatbelts. time for doom! |
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Shine
User ID: 712687
United States
7/1/2009 4:06 PM
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pulled out them good ole star chart program.... Opened it up...looked T the sun... Low and behold what did I see... It was amazing... Mecury directly to the right in close proximity to the sun! Wow! Quoting: Pharmacist
You might want to post a screen shot for those who are thinking about killing themselves over this.  |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 715610
 Ireland
7/1/2009 4:07 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
this is it folks. fasten your seatbelts. time for doom! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 715743
I've been seat belt fastening here for years. I wanna birds eye view this time.... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 713093
United States
7/1/2009 4:08 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
its planet x
nancy told me so in my dreams |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 715743
Canada
7/1/2009 4:10 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
this is it folks. fasten your seatbelts. time for doom!
I've been seat belt fastening here for years. I wanna birds eye view this time.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 715610
lol !
anyone have a good link? none are working for me... |
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Big-D
User ID: 715190
United States
7/1/2009 4:11 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Hey, just a question....will this make my power bill, get bigger...? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 488240
United States
7/1/2009 4:12 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
THAT'S NO MOON...!
 
Bad feeling about... |
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Dusty
User ID: 462458
 Netherlands
7/1/2009 4:13 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
It's getting strangely dark around here  |
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tvtech3
User ID: 697708
United States
7/1/2009 4:13 PM
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this guy's puppy
User ID: 715697
United Kingdom
7/1/2009 4:14 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
its planet x
nancy told me so in my dreams Quoting: Anonymous Coward 713093
i'm nervous NOW!!
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 704913
United States
7/1/2009 4:14 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
pulled out them good ole star chart program.... Opened it up...looked T the sun... Low and behold what did I see... It was amazing... Mecury directly to the right in close proximity to the sun! Wow! Quoting: Pharmacist
well then fuck it i'm gonna hit the sun. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 715697
United Kingdom
7/1/2009 4:15 PM | |
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 660262
United Kingdom
7/1/2009 4:17 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Just doing some rough arithmetic here.
STEREO B is staring at the Sun, which is 1.5*10**11 metres away. Its field of view is about five Suns wide, which translates to 7*10**9 metres across.
Now Mercury is passing behind the Sun. Mercury is at a distance of something like 5*10**10 metres from the Sun (it's quite an elliptical orbit, but it's nearing perihelion, so I took something near the lower end of the scale).
So how far does Mercury have to go? At a distance of 1.5*10**11 metres, the picture is 7*10**9 metres wide. Add in the distance to Mercury and you get 2*10**11 metres. So the width of the picture increases in proportion. Mercury must move 9.3*10**9 metres to cross the whole picture.
Mercury orbits at something like 50,000 metres per second. Divide the one by the other and you get 186,000 seconds, or 51 hours.
If, then, this is Mercury, then it should move steadily from right to left over the next two days, passing behind the Sun as it goes. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 657156
United States
7/1/2009 4:17 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Transits of Objects through the LASCO/C3 FOV in 2009
The following list was compiled with the help of the JPL HORIZONS web page.
All dates and magnitudes are approximate.
Jan 14 - Feb04 Jupiter -1.9mag Left to Right
Jan 17 - Jan24 Mercury 3.7mag Left to Right
Feb 04 - Feb21 Neptune 8.0mag Left to Right
Mar 05 - Mar22 Uranus 6.0mag Left to Right
Mar 23 - Apr08 Mercury -2.1mag Right to Left
Mar 27 - Mar29 Venus -0.7mag Left to Right*
May 13 - May24 Mercury 4.4mag Left to Right
Jul 06 - Jul21 Mercury -2.2mag Right to Left
Sep 08 - Sep27 Saturn 1.2mag Left to Right
Sep 17 - Sep24 Mercury 4.0mag Left to Right
Oct 24 - Nov20 Mercury -1.4mag Right to Left
Dec 09 - Feb15 Venus -3.9mag Right to Left
* Venus is fractionally outside (above) the LASCO C3 field of view during this pass. |
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tvtech3
User ID: 697708
United States
7/1/2009 4:18 PM
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childoflight
User ID: 715746
United States
7/1/2009 4:18 PM | |
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 660262
United Kingdom
7/1/2009 4:18 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
I think that's a perspective from the Earth. The pictures here are taken from the spacecraft STEREO - B, which follows the same orbit as Earth, but quite some distance behind. It views from a very different angle. |
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maya2012
User ID: 692639
United States
7/1/2009 4:20 PM
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 660262
United Kingdom
7/1/2009 4:21 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Transits of Objects through the LASCO/C3 FOV in 2009
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Jul 06 - Jul21 Mercury -2.2mag Right to Left Quoting: Anonymous Coward 657156
Ah. Is this where people are getting the idea that Mercury is coming into view early?
If so, I think the LASCO/C3 camera is on the SOHO satellite. That satellite orbits with the Earth, and from Earth's point of view, Mercury is still quite a long way off to the right of the Sun.
The pics we have here, from STEREO-B, are from a vantage point about 45 degrees behind us on our roughly circular route around the Sun, and from there Mercury is nearly in line with the Sun. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 715743
Canada
7/1/2009 4:22 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
any solid Doom links ? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 323774
United States
7/1/2009 4:22 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
Does anyone have any links to reputable stories/ info on this? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 629459
United States
7/1/2009 4:22 PM | | Re: Unknown object quickly approaching the Sun | Quote |
So, lazy trollbum, read the basement science article below (remember Bill Gates when you scoff. You got HIS wallet?). This article should be about your intellectual speed. I don't imagine you are up to real physics if Google is beyond you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 714917
jackass. that is not light. therefore, there is no "new" speed of light. light still travels the same speed. the only thing that article states is that there is something that travels faster than light. THAT is why i say there is no need to google it. light travels just as fast as when it was first hypothesized. nothing has changed except that now, they are able to make SOUND travel faster than light. some people..... |
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